The Syria Analysis Thread

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Niccolo and Donkey
The Actuality of the Turkish Entry into Syria :


However, there is already deep concern in some circles, particularly from Kurdish groups, that Turkey's recent entry into the US-led coalition against IS provides a convenient cover for it to carry out attacks against its long-time enemy: the PKK and its allies.

They question whether Turkey's recent campaign of air strikes against IS in Syria and Kurdish positions in Iraqi Kurdistan were aimed more at limiting the Kurds' newly won territory in north-eastern Syria than fighting IS.

The YPG, or People's Protection Units, have proved to be one of the most effective forces against IS, providing vital ground troop support for the US-led coalition air strikes against IS militants in Syria. They won the Syrian border town of Kobane from IS and went on to secure another strategic Syrian border town, Tel Abyad, last month, cutting off a key IS supply route for weapons and fighters and expanding the territory under Kurdish control inside Syria.


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People protest in Istanbul against their government's air strikes against Kurdish militants. Photo: AP

"It is not clear yet if or how that ISIS-free zone is going to materialise, how it would be protected or what it would be used for," said Cale Salih, a visiting fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations.

"There is a lot of fear amongst Kurds that Turkey will use that kind of zone to target the PYD or at least to restrict it in terms of the PYD's quest for more territory that would link Afrin and Kobane, which is one of their main strategic goals in Syria."

The PYD, or Democratic Union Party, along with the YPG is an affiliate of the PKK or Kurdistan Workers Party, which waged a decades-long armed struggle against Turkey. But, Ms Salih points out, the PKK has a new mission in Syria which has very little to do with resistance against Turkey.

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Turkish police raid the homes of IS suspects in Ankara on Monday. Photo: AP

"It is really about establishing an economy in northern Syria, it is about linking the two cantons, fighting jihadists, and that is a real opportunity for the peace process and a chance for the PKK to move away from this identity that it has had for so long which is about resistance in Turkey."

After holding out for almost a year, Turkey entered into an agreement with the US on Friday that will allow US war planes to launch air strikes from Turkey's Incirlik Air Base. Soon after Turkey began bombing IS targets in Syria and on Saturday it also began attacking on Kurdish targets in northern Iraq.

"A lot of people are quite alarmed that Turkey has gone after ISIS and the PKK at the same time because it invites retaliation from both inside Turkey," Ms Salih warned.

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A Turkish Air Force AS-532AL Cougar helicopter takes off from Incirlik airbase in the southern city of Adana, Turkey on Monday. Photo: Reuters

"That could seriously destabilise south-eastern Turkey … and present a genuine national security threat for Turkey in terms of ISIS."

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg, who was due to chair Tuesday's extraordinary closed-door session, expressed solidarity with Turkey after "recent heinous terrorist attacks", but cautioned against abandoning its peace process with the Kurds.

For years "there has been progress to try to find a peaceful political solution", he told Norwegian state broadcaster NRK. "It is important not to renounce that ... because force will never solve the conflict in the long term."

Syriac-Assyrian Christians in Syria also urged NATO to refrain from allowing Turkey to launch attacks against Kurdish positions in Syria.

"Any Turkish attack … will give ISIS all the space it needs to undo any progress against it," a statement from the group released on Monday reads.
Angocachi

@Antonius Blockhead
Address the Turk-Kurd alliance against IS as explained by Barzani. Also explain why Turkey has been attacking IS directly with the Turkish military and indirectly via the FSA (which is in turn overtly allied to the YPG).

Niccolo and Donkey
T he War Nerd: Don’t be fooled -- Turkey is attacking the Kurds

Byssus
http://www.vox.com/2015/8/3/9089569/syria-rebels-timeline
IF I HAD CONTRAS, THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE ROADKILL
Marcus
Syrian Army retreating to new line of defense
Niccolo and Donkey

Syria is starting to get interesting again with Russia now calling America's bluff re: ISIS.

Hopeful signs of US course correction on Syria


Niccolo and Donkey

Jews are now tacitly admitting that Israel is aiding al-Nusra/al-Qaida in the Syrian Civil War.

link

Niccolo and Donkey
Four in five Syrians says ISIS is an American creation

Would be an alternative and rather more relevant headline versus “ One in five Syrians say Islamic State is a good thing, poll says ,”, which is meant to shock the nativist ill-informed and divert the conversation from the US’ uncompromising and ruinous drive for regime change to the politically safer (for an American audience) topic of the European immigration crisis.

But hey, credit where credit’s due: At least WaPo reported this, which is more than you can say of the rest of the MSM.



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Here are the main highlights from this poll, which impressively managed to cover all 14 governates including those held by the Islamic State ( PDF ):

  • Only 21% of Syrians prefer life now compared to life under Assad’s full control several years ago.
  • 82% say ISIS was created by the US and allies.
  • Though 71% of respondents in territories under ISIS control say they support ISIS – surprising it’s not higher, given their… reputation – some 62% of them also agree that ISIS was created by the US and its allies.
  • Assad (47%) and Iran (43%) are more popular than the Arab Gulf countries (37%), al-Nusra (35%), the FSA (35%), “Syrian Opposition Candidate” (26%), and the Islamic State (21%). Reminder that this is in a majority Sunni country that is being “oppressed” by Shi’ite Alawites.
Overall, pretty depressing reading for those who bought into the US neocon/Likudnik regime change narrative on Syria on moral or political legitimacy reasons.

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Above are the detailed results of the ISIS/US connection question.
A Gleaming Leprosy
Fitz
US-trained Division 30 rebels 'betray US and hand weapons over to al-Qaeda's affiliate in Syria'

Pentagon-trained rebels are reported to have betrayed US and handed weapons over to Jabhat al-Nusra immediately after entering Syria

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Jabhat al-Nusra, affiliated to al-Qaeda, took the technicals, guns and ammunition from the US-trained Division 30 in northern Aleppo Photo: Reuters

By Nabih Bulos, Amman

5:22PM BST 22 Sep 2015

Pentagon-trained rebels in Syria are reported to have betrayed their American backers and handed their weapons over to al-Qaeda in Syria immediately after re-entering the country.

Fighters with Division 30, the “moderate” rebel division favoured by the United States, surrendered to the al-Qaeda-affiliated Jabhat al-Nusra, a raft of sources claimed on Monday night.

Division 30 was the first faction whose fighters graduated from a US-led training programme in Turkey which aims to forge a force on the ground in Syria to fight against Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isil) .

A statement on Twitter by a man calling himself Abu Fahd al-Tunisi, a member of al-Qaeda’s local affiliate Jabhat al-Nusra, read: "A strong slap for America... the new group from Division 30 that entered yesterday hands over all of its weapons to Jabhat al-Nusra after being granted safe passage.

"They handed over a very large amount of ammunition and medium weaponry and a number of pick-ups."

Abu Khattab al-Maqdisi, who also purports to be a Jabhat al-Nusra member, added that Division 30's commander, Anas Ibrahim Obaid,had explained to Jabhat al-Nusra's leaders that he had tricked the coalition because he needed weapons .

"He promised to issue a statement... repudiating Division 30, the coalition, and those who trained him," he tweeted. "And he also gave a large amount of weapons to Jabhat al-Nusra."

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) , a monitoring group, reported that seventy-five Division 30 fighters had crossed into Syria from Turkey early the day before with “12 four-wheel vehicles equipped with machine guns and ammunition”.

US Central Command confirmed about 70 graduates of the Syria “train and equip” programme had re-entered Syria with their weapons and equipment and were operating as New Syrian Forces alongside Syrian Kurds, Sunni Arab and other anti-Isil forces.

The latest disaster, if true, will be the second to befall the programme. Last month, after the first group of fighters re-entered, the militia was attacked and routed by Jabhat al-Nusra, which stormed its headquarters and kidnapped a number of its members .

At the weekend, the group’s chief of staff also resigned, saying the training programme was “not serious”.

In the statement, Lieutenant Colonel Mohammad al-Dhaher complained of insufficient numbers of trainees and fighters, inadequate supplies, and even “a lack of accuracy and method in the selection of Division 30’s cadres”.

The latest developments have only added to the scorn heaped on the much-criticized $500 million (£320m) program, which aimed to forge a 5,400-strong force of “moderate” rebels to combat Isil.

It has been hampered by problems almost from the outset, with rebels complaining of a laborious vetting process. The biggest point of contention is that they are only allowed to fight Isil, not the Assad regime , which is the principal enemy for most opposition groups.

[​IMG] General Lloyd Austin told the Senate Armed Services Committee that only "four or five" US-trained rebels were still fighting the Islamic State Photo: AP

Last Wednesday, General Lloyd Austin, head of US Central Command, shocked leaders in the US Senate's armed services committee when he said there were only handful of programme graduates still fighting inside Syria. "We're talking four or five," he said.