The Syria Analysis Thread

President Camacho Saturday 7 Sep 2013

That is indeed the established precedent, but Obama is really fucking himself over by waffling over this strike, calling for votes while whining to the media that he's just doing this to be nice, that he maintains the prerogative in any case. Past presidents who have ordered military intervention have acted swiftly and decisively so as not to allow opponents to muster opposition. But by turning the issue into a political football to be kicked around, Obama is only giving legitimacy to those who maintain that unilateral military action by the Executive branch is illegitimate. If he orders the strike after he allowed all this to take place (getting slapped in the face by Putin, getting cucked by the UK, getting cucked by Congress, etc) we will really see the low point of his presidency.

Bob Dylan Roof Saturday 7 Sep 2013

President Camacho said: ↑

That is indeed the established precedent, but Obama is really fucking himself over by waffling over this strike, calling for votes while whining to the media that he's just doing this to be nice, that he maintains the prerogative in any case. Past presidents who have ordered military intervention have acted swiftly and decisively so as not to allow opponents to muster opposition. But by turning the issue into a political football to be kicked around, Obama is only giving legitimacy to those who maintain that unilateral military action by the Executive branch is illegitimate. If he orders the strike after he allowed all this to take place (getting slapped in the face by Putin, getting cucked by the UK, getting cucked by Congress, etc) we will really see the low point of his presidency.

Obama painted himself as a strong proponent of the War Powers Resolution during the run-up to the 2008 election:

Q. In what circumstances, if any, would the president have constitutional authority to bomb Iran without seeking a use-of-force authorization from Congress? (Specifically, what about the strategic bombing of suspected nuclear sites — a situation that does not involve stopping an IMMINENT threat?)

OBAMA: The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent.

He has since violated the Resolution, most recently in Libya, but he kept up appearances by filing late "reports" with Congress to keep representatives apprised of his actions. The stunt with Congress over Syria provides him with the opportunity to punt, and buys time for the Pentagon to develop a strategy for weakening the SAA. You've probably noticed that the Cruise Missile plan seems to have been scrapped after the "test" launch, possibly because Assad has bunkers that can only be penetrated by ordnance dropped by plane.

President Camacho Saturday 7 Sep 2013

Yeah, I agree there's the element of distraction involved... and all the fumbling about the form the attack would take is just more evidence that it's amateur hour up in the Black House.

President Camacho Sunday 8 Sep 2013

McCain "shames" Fox's Brian Kilmeade

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Sen. John McCain criticized Fox & Friends's Brian Kilmeade on Tuesday after the co-host said he had "a problem with helping out" members of the Syrian opposition who were shouting "Allahu Akbar" as rockets rained down in a government-held district of Homs.

During an interview with Sen. McCain, Kilmeade played the clip of the Syrian opposition fighters in order to suggest that McCain's plan to deliver weapons to opposition groups could ultimately backfire, putting rockets in the hands of terrorists.

“I have a problem helping out those people screaming that after a hit,” Kilmeade said.

Sen. McCain fired back, “Would you have a problem with an American person saying ‘Thank God! Thank God!'?"

“That’s what they're saying. Come on!" Sen. McCain said. "Of course they're Muslims, but they're moderates. I guarantee you that they are moderates. I know them and I've been with them . For someone to say 'Allahu Akbar' is about as offensive as someone saying 'Thank God.'"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/09/mccain-shames-foxs-brian-kilmeade-171681.html?ml=bp

Bronze Age Pervert Monday 9 Sep 2013

This will establish that Savage is gwm and not to be dismissed anymore on these forums,

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/embed/OETY_y3PBXM

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I actually can't find the best segments online, but the past few days he's been attacking and mocking all the major Jewish organizations and saying Israel is behind this; will post as I can find them.

This channel has the full shows,
http://www.youtube.com/user/ReallyBigSomething

I find it entertaining to listen, he's been on a roll lately...

Niccolo and Donkey Monday 9 Sep 2013

German Intel saying that Assad was NOT behind the attack................

Assad did not order Syria chemical weapons attack, says German press

President Bashar al-Assad did not personally order last month's chemical weapons attack near Damascus that has triggered calls for US military intervention, and blocked numerous requests from his military commanders to use chemical weapons against regime opponents in recent months, a German newspaper has reported , citing unidentified, high-level national security sources.

The intelligence findings were based on phone calls intercepted by a German surveillance ship operated by the BND, the German intelligence service, and deployed off the Syrian coast, Bild am Sonntag said. The intercepted communications suggested Assad, who is accused of war crimes by the west, including foreign secretary William Hague , was not himself involved in last month's attack or in other instances when government forces have allegedly used chemical weapons.

Assad sought to exonerate himself from the August attack in which hundreds died. "There has been no evidence that I used chemical weapons against my own people," he said in an interview with CBS

Niccolo and Donkey Monday 9 Sep 2013

Niccolo and Donkey Monday 9 Sep 2013

Stubby Tuesday 10 Sep 2013

Unfortunately none of those Russian ships have significant anti-ship capabilities. The Russian navy doesn't really have any modern multi-role destroyers. The one destroyer in that graphic is an ASW ship primarily. The rest are landing craft, auxiliaries, and small ships.

Team Zissou Tuesday 10 Sep 2013

Russia is not trading body blows with the US any time soon.

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