The German Election Thread - now for real.

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Is Salo even ready for the mother of all kompromats?

Putin Has a Really Big Trojan Horse in Germany

  • Anti-immigrant AfD gets third of votes from Russian speakers
  • Populists to play key role in tight September national vote
Eugen Schmidt, a computer programmer from Cologne in western Germany, credits the television stations controlled by Vladimir Putin’s Kremlin for exposing what he says local media won’t -- the dangers of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s open-door policy for Muslim immigrants.

A native of the Soviet Union, he was a loyal supporter of Merkel’s Christian Democrats in the years since he moved with his family to Germany in 1999 .
But four years ago, he defected to the anti-immigration Alternative for Germany, or AfD, as the incoming wave of refugees from violence in the Arab world began to swell.

Events in January of last year turned the 41-year-old from a quiet AfD supporter to grassroots activist and widely read blogger. First, hundreds of women were sexually assaulted at New Year celebrations here by men mainly from North Africa. And then, for five days, he says German media “kept absolutely quiet” about an attack that shocked the nation when its true scale became public.

“That was the last straw for me,” Schmidt said over coffee in a cafe near Cologne’s central square, one of several areas of Germany where the attacks happened. “It only came out through Russian media and Facebook.”

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Eugen Schmidt (center)

Schmidt’s version of events fits the anti-establishment narrative, fueled by an initial police report that described a relatively peaceful night. While local media covered the news within hours, it took national outlets several days to pick up the story of the unprecedented attacks.

Merkel, Putin’s most powerful critic in Europe, is fighting to extend her 12 years as chancellor in September. Her campaign aides are convinced the Kremlin is working to thwart her. Intelligence officials warn of Russian cyber attacks aimed at manipulating the vote.

But if Putin has a Trojan Horse in German politics, it’s an estimated 2.5 million voters who like Schmidt speak Russian and make up the country’s largest minority voting bloc. Most so-called Russian Germans have ancestors who moved to the Russian Empire to farm and began to return en masse after the Cold War. Up to three-fifths of these people consider Russian TV more trustworthy than domestic broadcasts and 40 percent say it’s their main source of news, a survey by the Bonn-based Boris Nemtsov Foundation for Freedom shows.

So far, polls show Merkel more popular than her Social Democrat challenger Martin Schulz, though her CDU’s margin over his SPD is much narrower. The AfD has pulled support mainly from Merkel, luring an estimated 1.5 million Russian speakers like Schmidt with its strident opposition to the largest flow of migrants into Europe since the Second World War.

Merkel Hardens
Merkel has hardened her rhetoric on immigrants in recent weeks. At a rally April 27, she sought to defuse far-right criticism over the Cologne attacks, accusing the state government -- controlled by her rivals, the Social Democrats -- of “sweeping under the carpet” failures by police to prevent them.

Schmidt and his allies aren’t convinced.

He now dedicates his free time to promoting AfD, particularly among the Russian Germans who currently make up about a third of the party’s backers. His Russian language blog has drawn as many as 110,000 readers. He spent one recent Saturday outside a supermarket that sells Russian staples such as pelmeni and vodka, passing out dual-language leaflets with bullet points like, “Islam doesn’t fit into our values and isn’t part of Germany.” ²

AfD, formed in 2013, has seen its poll ratings fall back from recent highs, but at 8 percent, it is still on track to become the first right-wing party to enter the national parliament since World War II. With AfD’s rise hurting the CDU more than the SPD, it could also be enough to hinder Merkel.

“We’d be very happy about that,” said Sergei Markov, a political consultant to Putin’s staff. “The Social Democrats would stop the artificial Cold War.”

A tight race creates an opening for the Kremlin to use its leverage by rallying Russian speakers.
Putin’s propagandists flexed their powers of agitation last year with outraged, full-spectrum reporting on the alleged gang rape of a 13-year-old Russian girl by a trio of immigrants in Berlin. The news turned out to be fake, but not before the media blitz orchestrated in Moscow helped lure tens of thousands of people onto German streets to rail against the chancellor.

Sochi Talks
Merkel said she’s not afraid of Russian election interference after meeting Putin Tuesday in Sochi, Russia. “I’m not a fearful person. I’m going ahead with my election campaign, based on what I believe in,” she said. The Russian leader said, “we would never even think of intervening in the political processes of other countries.”

Russian state media continue to promote the perception that immigrants are freeloaders taking advantage of Germany’s welfare state.
The German division of RT, formerly known as Russia Today, often broadcasts live the anti-Islam protests of the fringe PEGIDA movement. Another Russian state-TV channel has run false stories, including that pork was being banned in some German areas to please Muslim refugees, which caused a backlash on social media.

While German authorities have said they’ve found no evidence of direct Russian interference in the elections, officials close to Merkel say privately they have no doubt that the Kremlin is behind a barrage of misleading reports meant to hurt her prospects. Russia denies that.

Konstantin Malofeev, a wealthy Putin ally who serves as a kind of unofficial envoy to AfD and other right-wing parties, said the chances of Merkel failing to win a fourth term are “very high.”

Russian Courtship
Russia’s courtship of AfD goes back to at least 2015, when the party’s deputy chief, Alexander Gauland, met with Malofeev and several lawmakers from Putin’s ruling United Russia party in St. Petersburg.

“The idea was to listen to Russian interests, Russian complaints about Western policy, to follow their thinking, to find out if there is a chance to improve relations,’’ Gauland said in a phone interview.

While the CDU hasn’t been as fast to embrace Russian speakers as a distinct electoral group, it, too, is producing campaign material in Russian.

“The CDU will once again put on a successful target-group campaign,” said Heinrich Zertik, the party’s point man for Russian-speakers.

Joerg Forbrig of the German Marshall Fund of the U.S. in Berlin said it would be a “gross exaggeration” to view the Russian Germans as a fifth column.
But, he said, they can be swayed by Russian “manipulation” & they’re filling the ranks of the AfD, which is taking votes from Merkel, as well as other mainstream parties.

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Roger Beckamp, Schmidt’s political boss in Cologne, said immigration remains a key election issue and time is on AfD’s side. “The CDU took their votes for granted,” he said. Schmidt’s outreach efforts include a What’s App group for Russian Germans and a dedicated page on Russia’s most popular social network, VK, which he frequently updates. “If the party communicates with them in Russian, that’s important psychologically,” he said.

Schmidt’s network stretches to places like Detmold, which lies 200 kilometers northeast of Cologne.
The city of 75,000 is home to the country’s only museum dedicated to Russian Germans, who make up about a tenth of the population.

One of them, Jacob Baidin, a CDU defector like Schmidt who owns a delivery business, said he doesn’t trust German newscasts and gets his information mainly from Russian TV, which “generally tells the truth.”

Baidan, 28, said Russian Germans were outraged that local authorities invited hundreds of refugees from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq to settle in low-income housing in their neighborhood. The newcomers brought “lots of rubbish and dirt,” he said.

Schmidt said he plans to continue campaigning and blogging all the way to election day and beyond. The programmer-turned-activist dismissed worries of Russian meddling, saying his only agenda is to return Germany to its roots.

“Something needs to change or at some point we’ll just have to flee this country,” Schmidt said.


You might have been shaken by the fact that Trump & his kind are Russian spies.
You might have been disturbed by the fact that an enemy power like Russia could sway an entire election.
But what will you say towards the fact that Germany is infiltrated by over 2 million Russian agents?

Thank god and the always investigative Bloomberg magazine!
Til, maybe 3 minutes ago, I didn't even know that I'm also an agent of Putin.
Putl0r achieved PEAK SLEEPER AGENT - technology.

Or maybe there are different reasons?

I had to laugh pretty hard at this article, but there are even some tiny nuggets of truth.

First of all :
When the first, huge immigration wave to Germany from Ex-SU started (late 80ies), about 90 % of the immigrants were ethnic Germans.
Slowly, but steadily this turned to a 50:50 ratio in the beginning & mid of the 90ies, only to turn sour to the end of the decade with less and less ethnic Germans.
Most of the people who showed up at the end of the last millenia were basically Russians, who were able to claim German citizienship, based on a fictional German grand-grand-mother or marriage to a wife who had these fictional, but nevertheless strong blood ties to Germany.
I've met quite a few of those people during my time in the org for the interest of Germans from Russia & I was mildly displeased by this rent-seeking behaviour.

So, regarding the leader mentioned above:
Eugen Schmidt teaches naive Germans a valuable lesson in open borders & ethnic loyality. Judging by his late arrival in 1999, I'm sure that he is a ethnic Russian.
Not surprisingly his political & cultural outlook on the ongoing cultural enrichment by ME rocket engineers wasn't changed that much during his 18 years in a welcoming and tolerant society like Germany with superior Western Values, like propaganda for faggotry & suicide of one's own ethnic identity.

Maybe, but only maybe, he & the 3 million ethnic Turks with their strong cultural fit act as a prediction for the future successful integration of Middle Easterners and Afreakans into the colourful & ever tolerant German society?

Second:
Bloomberg mentions the influence of Russian media on those million spies as the sole reason for their non-suicidal, non-gay political preference.

I beg to differ:
Back in the nineties in rather non-pozzed times, Germans from Russia acted as a huge voting bloc ( we talk about 80 % ) for the CDU.
Way before Russia Today, way before Putin, way before kompromat, way before Louise Mensch.

In my own experience & the experience of others, the reasons for this voting bloc are:
The CDU was very eager to bring back Germans from the East & those Germans returned the favor for more than two decades by voting for the CDU.
Also the CDU was always seen as a proper representation of the German people & German values, especially since it wasn't fond of Turks in particular and never went full globalism / full multiculturalism like the SPD & Greens, back then.
We all know, times have changed drastically: Germans, who have a strong sense of identity & even stronger disgust for poz, don't have any choice left than the AfD.

Reasons for the strong sense of ethnic identity & full-blown hate of poz utopia are more rooted in the history of those 4 millions than in the present:
Their ancestors were (religious) settlers brought by Catherine the Great. They build (pure) ethnic villages for about 200 years in the Russian empire.
They were granted special privileges, like establishing own schools & churches, Germans weren't drafted and so on.
A non-integrated, but flourishing German community rose during those years. (Read more about it here )

This succesful period began to end with the October revolution ( which at least produced an Soviet Ethno-state for them ) and was fully stopped by the 2nd World War.
Germans were seen as a fifth column of the Nazis (which is quite right) & Stalin didn't loose any time to perform superior ethnic cleansing on them by deporting them in huge masses to Gulags in Siberia and/or Central Asia.
Ethnic cleansing against Germans and killing 300.000 of 1.000.000 by doing so? Verboten wrongthink in current Germany
Harrasment & discrimination, based on ethnic identity, continued up to the 60ies. I guess this did wonders to the feels of belonging to a special group.

The lack of respect for multicultural societies came later into play, when Germans were allowed to stay either in Siberia or settle down in Central Asia, where they were confronted by (Muslim) Central Asians, who weren't (and still aren't) very high on the human development scale.

Mix all this together with your standard Slav attitude towards faggotry and poz & you have a better explanation for their voting patters.

I think, I've mentioned it some time ago in the Shoutbox:
The AfD has a lot of potential, but doesn't use it all.
Displaced Germans from all of the former territories / independent settlements in the East amount to more than 5 million people & that's a number which doesn't even count their children & grandchildren. Those Germans tend to be particulary right wing (look at Erika Steinbach ) & have better demographics than the native single-cat-lady population. Add them to their non-pozzed brothers in mind, East Germans, as well as the few other marginalized AfD voting blocs in the West you would end up with a rather remarkable threat to the establishment (in numbers).

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I'm surprised to learn that DP and BHE weren't right-wing parties.
J-Mask {107}

For the Germans here: what do you make of this? Does the AfD view Germany as an "occupied" nation?

Derrick

That Bloomberg article is more biased than anything that's seen on RT, and RT's bias is arguably left-wing..

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Interesting question, i don't have a direct answer to it.
As long as we have Petry and other normies at the top of the party, you better forget such edgy propositions.
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Derrick

Answer: It doesn't fucking matter.

auteur_theory

"European" defined here as "who can fit the most muslim dicks in their ass."

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Short update on our ambitious right-wing party, the AfD.
Let me present to you: one of the two candidates for the general election in the autumn of 2017.

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a professed lesbian mother of 2 boys
worked for Goldman Sachs & Allianz Global Investors, in Germany & abroad for 6 years
has a 2nd residence in Switzerland, a country which is particulary known for being a place to optimize your own taxes

>>> European Peak Conservatism in 2017 <<<