Ancient Men of Strong Hand, Modern Pussies

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O'Zebedee

You know, I've had it up to here with BAP's Negative Nancy attitude. "The past was sooo much better, we're all a bunch of pantie wearing pussies." Yeah, yeah. I ask, you, BAP - what's to stop you from taking control of a city, killing its most prominent citizens and engaging in systematic looting and rape? Only you, you silly goose. Maybe you should start thinking about what you can accomplish if you only put your mind to it!

Team Zissou
Zeb is fucking pissed off. :eek:
O'Zebedee

I just expect more of a can-do attitude! :mad:

Porkchop Holocaust
Classics don't need a special reason to be studied. They're the foundation of our culture and have fascinated men for centuries, aren't you curious?

I don't feel very qualified to tell you where you should start learning classics, other than that you would probably do well to follow your main field of interest, whether it is philosophy, history, poetry, etc.; it's certain that you'll find something of interest there. The Greeks themselves generally thought Homer was their greatest "classic" and I agree.
Broseph

I'm not going to put hours into something without reason. I studied some of the ancient Greek philosophers in the past, most of which was because I had to for school.

Just because I don't agree that a wall of text about something so decoupled from my life is interesting doesn't mean people have to start crying. It's been years since I've encountered such sensitivity. Saying "there's no reason to study this" isn't really making a convincing argument as to why anyone should study this, nevertheless be heartbroken when someone isn't thrilled to study this. Maybe some people have time to waste and enjoy reading for the sake purposelessness?

Inkarri

This thread is funny. :durr:

Porkchop Holocaust

Maybe you should read my post properly. For the record, I don't care if you study the classics or not, I'm not some prole educator trying to bring culture to the masses. All I could do was trying to poke your curiosity. Since that didn't work there's nothing else to do.

Broseph

Ok I'm an asshole for asking why I should enjoy this. Thanks, everyone.

Trajan
This is a terrible answer. If you read the 'classics' for the sake of, well, reading the 'classics' then you have no understanding of why they're important in the first place. Beachstud has a better answer that he mentioned in chat, perhaps he'd like to tell us...
Porkchop Holocaust
Obviously, I know that reading the classics has many potential benefits. If I thought they were not valuable in themselves I wouldn't recommend reading them. However I think it's unfortunate that some essential aspects of our culture are neglected because their benefits are not readily apparent, as if their weight and authority over centuries and centuries was a mere irrelevancy and weren't compelling enough to get to know them. Trying to understand why they're classics should be the main motivation for becoming acquainted with them, at least if you're an adult, and if they seem remote and alien at first, they deserve at least some effort on the part of the reader to try to overcome that distance, which is mostly apparent in my opinion. Not doing so is to choose to remain uneducated, which is a choice I'm not trying to make for anyone.