The Syria Analysis Thread

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Team Zissou
niccolo and donkey SweetLeftFoot President Camacho Angocachi

From what I am hearing, the rebels are illiterate scum. The smarter ones pay the rest to carry AK's and point them in the general direction of regime forces. Street thugs, for the most part.

Family members are in the "denial" stage of grieving. They can't believe the country is just falling apart. I've started saying that if 15M Sunni decide they no longer want a few million Alawite/Shia and Christians running the place, it's going to happen. OTOH, the rebels seem hopelessly inept. I doubt they can win, much less govern.

BTW, here's a disappointing Eric Margolis tongue-bath from LRC: http://lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis317.html
Niccolo and Donkey

Lots of Syria stuff this past 24 hours...................


US to formally recognise Syrian opposition




Syrian rebels defy US and pledge allegiance to jihadi group


President Camacho
Really? That's the criteria for recognizing a rebel government? That's just fucking depressing.

It's easy to dismiss this as standard PR-speak, but something tells me that a lot of the dunces in State Dept actually believe in the garbage they churn out.
SweetLeftFoot
The Sunni rebels from around Deraa and Homs and Hama are by and large illiterate rural peasants. Most just fought to try and avenge the 1980s massacres

But it is obvious that these assaults on airbases and armouries are being led by Qaatari/Western special forces with seasoned Iraqi/Libyan veterans as the footsoldiers.

My sense is this tactic could actually see athe anti Assad forces gaining the upper hand, unlesss Russia was to send advisors etc.

However the realpolitik, as shown above, is that the rebels ain't doing the right thing and publicly declaring their love for girls schools and tolerance. Makes it a very hard sell for Obama and Hollande et al.

Very interesting stalemate right n ow.
Angocachi
The rebels are two factions,
- ex-Syrian military who are essentially leading a coup on the grounds that they are Sunni and can supplant an Allawite despot because the country is majority Sunni. These are the leaders of the FSA and are supported by NATO and the GCC. If either NATO or the GCC have special forces assisting the rebels, its the secular FSA that they're helping.
- Salafis from Al Qaeda, often led by veterans from Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, the Caucasus, etc.

The military bases, such as Base 111, are being stormed and taken by Al Nusra, which is led by seasoned Al Qaeda men with recruits from everywhere. They're definitely not being led around by Qatar or Western Special Forces. The tactics that they're using are learned from fighting the Russians, Serbs, and NATO in other conflicts.
Angocachi
Niccolo and Donkey
Roland SteamshipTime President Camacho Angocachi

I suggest that you pornlings read the entire article at the link.

Syria's Kurds face uncertain future if Assad falls


Angocachi

WOW. If too long, skip to the bulletin points at the bottom.

Fearing the rise of Salafis and Ikhwanis, the GCC, Jordan, US, & UK have decided to deal with Assad rather than overthrow him. Their hope was that Turkey could get the secular defector FSA in as a regime in Damascus, but French unwillingness to cooperate with Erdogan and Sino-Russian cockblocking NATO at the UN prevented a Libya style aerial war on Assad that would allow the FSA to overrun the country. In that time Salafi ranks swelled and they became the dominate faction of the insurgency. Overthrowing Assad to install Al Nusra is unacceptable to Saud, Obama, and all involved... especially as the Sunni are massing in revolt in neighboring Iraq.

Assad may keep his ass, but that won't erase the insurgency. The FSA will feel abandoned and its members could march forward under the Black flag of Jihad... perhaps not taking all of Syria but not surrendering what they have taken. How the previously anti-Assad states can goad the FSA leadership into a powersharing deal with Assad is beyond me.
Theo
God DAMN Turkey!
Stubby
Turkey :thumbsdown: