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Ed Toner [OP]

2003-09-16 18:18 | User Profile

He had the CNN officies in Belgrade bombed, if i recall.

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/16/elec04.prez.clark.ap/index.html]http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/16/...k.ap/index.html[/url]

Clark to enter presidential race

Retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark


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LITTLE ROCK, Arkansas (AP) -- Wesley Clark, the retired general with a four-star military resume but no political experience, decided Tuesday to become the 10th Democratic presidential candidate, officials close to him said.

"He's made his decision and will announce it tomorrow in Little Rock," said Mark Fabiani, a spokesman for Clark.

Fabiani did not reveal Clark's decision, but officials close to the former general said he told his fledgling campaign team that he's in the race.

Clark's decision came as Democratic strategists from around the country gathered at his small, low-slung brick headquarters at the bank's of the Arkansas river to discuss strategy for mounting a late-starting presidential campaign.

Fabiani, who served as spokesman for former Vice President Al Gore's 2000 campaign, is part of a cadre ...............

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So here’s an introduction to what you need to know about General Wesley K. Clark.

Born December 23, 1944, he spent most of his childhood in Little Rock, raised by his mother Veneta and stepfather Victor Clark. Only during his twenties, he says, did Wesley discover that the father who died suddenly of a heart attack at age 51 when he was five was Jewish – and that his own middle name Kanne was that of his father Benjamin Jacob Kanne.

[Another Democratic Presidential hopeful, Roman Catholic Sen. John Forbes Kerry of Massachusetts, recently told voters that his ancestry was not Irish, as voters had been misled to believe, but was Jewish. Including Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D.-Conn.), Democrats thus could field three ancestrally “Jewish” candidates for President.]

(Wesley’s grandfather’s name had been Jacob Nemerovsky when he fled from Russian pogroms in the 1890s to Switzerland, where he obtained a false passport with the family name Kanne with which he immigrated to the United States.)

General Wesley Clark speaks fluent Russian and could become the first American President to do so. Why he has not boasted of this in campaigning for Leftist Democratic support is a mystery.

His father Benjamin was an Assistant Prosecuting Attorney in Chicago, a Fourth Ward candidate for office, and a local Democratic activist. After his death, Wesley’s mother and her son – like Hillary Clinton – moved from Illinois to Arkansas.

Wesley was raised a Southern Baptist, not a Jew, after that move. But after graduating first in his class from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point in 1966 and studies in England, Wesley commanded a mechanized infantry company in Vietnam, was wounded four times but was awarded one Purple Heart, and won the Silver Star and two Bronze Stars. While in Vietnam he converted to Roman Catholicism.


Franco

2003-09-16 21:25 | User Profile

Clark's birth [natural] father was Jewish: Benjamin Jacob Kanne.

Oy! :mellow:


Buster

2003-09-17 20:25 | User Profile

Looks like another Al Gore for 2004.

Democrats just might take a flier on this guy. Solid Southern roots, centrist. It's worked for them before. It's the only thing that has. He's even got a national security background. Just might make sense.

What have they got to lose?


Hilaire Belloc

2003-09-17 20:38 | User Profile

Maybe this bastdard's platform will be for more continual bombings of innocent countries for no good reason. I for one don't have any support for this butcher of innocent Slavs! :mad:


travis

2003-09-17 21:45 | User Profile

[QUOTE]*Originally posted by AntiYuppie * [B]As for Clark's phony opposition to Bush's Gulf War II, the sole reason for it was that it was a Republican rather than his Little Rock Arkansas buddy Bill Clinton doing the lying and warmongering. This is another example of petty partisan sour grapes, no more, no less [/B][/QUOTE] You can bet his opposition to the war was strategic, not partisan. Only gentiles are dumb enough to pledge their loyalty to ideologies.


Exelsis_Deo

2003-09-18 02:25 | User Profile

Wesley Clark almost started World War Three. He ordered the taking of the airport at Kosovo when it was in the hands of the Russians. He ordered NATO to take that base and the British commander REFUSED his order. THANK GOD. If it was up to Wesley Clark, WWIII would have already been a reality. We are talking about a bloodlusted demon. He is not a true General. True generals are hard to come by. What you have here is a soldier of more hate, more dying, more signatures signing away deaths of real people. You want to elect a MASS MURDERER. thats what he is.. a cold blooded MURDERER who will not be happy until he can launch World War Three and KILL US ALL


Buster

2003-09-18 19:36 | User Profile

I don't disagree with any of these points or criticisms, but as a purely strategic move, I still think this makes sense for the Dems. It's time to toss a Hail Mary.

A centrist, Southern Democrat won the popular vote last time, and I sense people are tiring of Bush. Bush's Iraq fiasco would probably insulate Clark on the foreign policy issue. How can Bush critique Clark for the Balkans with Iraq on his hands?

And don't forget a Florida Senator as a possible VP.

I can't help but think that Dean is a flash-in-the-pan, who cannot take punches well. If the Dems go for him, it's Bush in a romp.


Ed Toner

2003-09-19 19:52 | User Profile

[url]http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?strwebhead=Wesley+Clark%26acute%3Bs+Jewish+roots&intcategoryid=5[/url] BEHIND THE HEADLINES Latest contender for president comes from long line of rabbis By Ron Kampeas

WASHINGTON, Sept. 17 (JTA) — Raised a Southern Baptist who later converted to Roman Catholicism, Gen. Wesley Clark knew just what to say when he strode into a Brooklyn yeshiva in 1999, ostensibly to discuss his leadership of NATO´s victory in Yugoslavia. "I feel a tremendous amount in common with you," the uniformed four-star general told the stunned roomful of students.

"I am the oldest son, of the oldest son, of the oldest son — at least five generations, and they were all rabbis."

The incident could be a signal of how Clark, who became the 10th contender in the Democratic run for the presidency on Wednesday, relates to the Jews and the issues dear to them.

Apparently Clark, 58, revels in his Jewish roots.

He told The Jewish Week in New York, which first reported the yeshiva comment in 1999, that his ancestors were not just Jews, but members of the priestly caste of Kohens.

Clark´s Jewish father, Benjamin Kanne, died when he was 4, but he has kept in touch with his father´s family since his 20s, when he rediscovered his Jewish roots. He is close to a first cousin, Barry Kanne, who heads a pager company in Georgia.

Clark shares more than sentimental memories with Jews.

He couples liberal domestic views that appeal to much of the Jewish electorate with a soldier´s sympathy for Israel´s struggle against terror.

Appearing in June on .....................


kathaksung

2003-09-21 21:36 | User Profile

I think W. Clark is a tool used by insider group to weaken Howard Dean. This insider group controls US ploitics. They have a road map to control Islamic countries. They need more war in Mid-east. Bush is their favorite. To make sure their road map can be carried out, they make Lieberman their favourable candidate in Democratic Party. So either Party wins, their foreign policy will remain unchanged. But American people realize the war policy is not for the interest of US. They go for Howard Dean whom opposes the war. As Howard Dean leads over other Candidates, the group worried and use such tactic to divert Dean's support. At last make their favorite win the primary.


Ed Toner

2003-09-21 23:26 | User Profile

Howard Dean has a Kosher wife, and his kids are raised as Jews.

All candidates are covered.


Bardamu

2003-09-21 23:40 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ed Toner] All candidates are covered.[/QUOTE]

Except one: [url]http://forums.originaldissent.com/showthread.php?t=9952[/url] :smartass:


Roy Batty

2003-09-23 03:30 | User Profile

**"I am the oldest son, of the oldest son, of the oldest son — at least five generations, and they were all rabbis." **

[url]http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?intarticleid=13221&intcategoryid=3[/url]

BEHIND THE HEADLINES Latest contender for president comes from long line of rabbis By Ron Kampeas

WASHINGTON, Sept. 17 (JTA) — Raised a Southern Baptist who later converted to Roman Catholicism, Gen. Wesley Clark knew just what to say when he strode into a Brooklyn yeshiva in 1999, ostensibly to discuss his leadership of NATO´s victory in Yugoslavia.

"I feel a tremendous amount in common with you," the uniformed four-star general told the stunned roomful of students.

"I am the oldest son, of the oldest son, of the oldest son — at least five generations, and they were all rabbis."

The incident could be a signal of how Clark, who became the 10th contender in the Democratic run for the presidency on Wednesday, relates to the Jews and the issues dear to them.

Apparently Clark, 58, revels in his Jewish roots.

He told The Jewish Week in New York, which first reported the yeshiva comment in 1999, that his ancestors were not just Jews, but members of the priestly caste of Kohens.

Clark´s Jewish father, Benjamin Kanne, died when he was 4, but he has kept in touch with his father´s family since his 20s, when he rediscovered his Jewish roots. He is close to a first cousin, Barry Kanne, who heads a pager company in Georgia.

Clark shares more than sentimental memories with Jews.

He couples liberal domestic views that appeal to much of the Jewish electorate with a soldier´s sympathy for Israel´s struggle against terror.

Appearing in June on "Meet the Press" on CBS, Clarke said he agreed with President Bush´s assessment that Israel should show more restraint, a reference to the policy of targeting terrorist leaders for assassination.

"But the problem is," Clark continued, "when you have hard intelligence that you´re about to be struck, it´s the responsibility of a government to take action against that intelligence and prevent the loss of lives. It´s what any society would expect of its leadership. So there´s a limit to how much restraint can be shown."

Speaking to the New Democrat Network this year, Clark said that dismantling Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat´s Ramallah headquarters was "a legitimate military objective from their perspective...

Ok, Dean's got his bases covered, you guys are right. Check. Kerry, well, he's jewish. Check. Lieberman. Check. Clark. Check ... hey, the stealth attacks may slowly fade in some areas of ZOG ... :ohmy:


W.R.I.T.O.S

2003-09-24 08:09 | User Profile

Contending for the Democratic presidential nomination we have one jew(leiberman), two half/crypto jews(kerry and "clark") and two white men who are domestically partnered with jewish women, one of whom has mischling offspring(kucinich and dean). This illustrates the judiazation of America's elite. One of Gore's daughters married a jew as well.


Sertorius

2003-09-24 08:49 | User Profile

I wonder how long it will be before Bush "discovers" that he has some Jew in him too? :lol:


na Gaeil is gile

2003-09-24 08:54 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Sertorius]I wonder how long it will be before Bush "discovers" that he has some Jew in him too? :lol:[/QUOTE]

He has - bent over and right up the... :censored:


Sertorius

2003-09-24 09:33 | User Profile

na Gaeil is gile,

Isn't that the damn truth.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

That and the "ice cream barometer" are two good ones, ha!


il ragno

2003-09-24 20:16 | User Profile

How I loathe & despise this name-changing, shape-shifting, perpetually grinning three-card monte race of shameless hustlers. I remember being told a long time ago, "These people are so friggin shameless that you CANNOT insult them. Tell a Jew you just saw a horse f**king his mother in Macy's window and he'll laugh even harder than you will. Because he was [B]already [/B] planning to screw you - long before you said anything to him!"

Let's see now. Bush on one side. Lieberman, Kerry and Clark on the other.

NO MATTER HOW YOU VOTE, THE JEWS WILL WIELD ULTIMATE POWER FOR THE REST OF THIS DECADE. And not 'as usual' - [B]at unprecedented levels[/B].

Anybody out there [I]still [/I] snickering at mottos like 'name the Jew'?!?