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Thread ID: 9738 | Posts: 17 | Started: 2003-09-12
2003-09-12 02:01 | User Profile
Yggdrasil reveals his true identity and talks about current projects. The man does have charisma.
[url=http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=86629&page=1&pp=15]http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread...29&page=1&pp=15[/url]
2003-09-12 14:06 | User Profile
Though everyone should have at least two guns
You really ought to add a centerfire rifle (preferably .308 or a .223 for those of smaller stature) as well as a .22 rimfire for game-getting and because the ammo's cheap. Stock up on it while it's still legal since I don't expect burners to be outlawed anytime soon.
P.S. Interesting thread at Stormfront (for a change). Thanks for posting it. Although I find this kind of strange:
...imagine if everyone in the movement donated $10 a week? For the price of a few pints at your local pub, we could start buying radio and television time and competing with the Jews on their own level.
No way in heck the NYT is going to accept ad money from a racialist organization, and even if they did it would be outweighed by the follow-up free advertising the ADL would get for the next couple of months.
2003-09-12 15:44 | User Profile
Not just an interest article but an inspiring one. Although I hope the cautionary tale below is not lost on the married/attached among us. We donâââ‰â¢t need to lose any more activists like Moran merely because the home front was insufficiently prepared.
**(Yggdrasil on Stormfront) Moran has not quit.
I have had numerous email exchanges with him in the past and I am certain he will be back.
Betrayal, pubic ostracism and a wife who freaks out and demands that you stop are a powerful trio.
Sooner or later multi culti reality will bite the little lady on the ass right up close and personal. At that point she will be urging him on and she will be calling him a coward if he quits, and I guarantee that she will be much more pursuasive than you. **
So WNs or paleos considering open activism, please, please, please make sure the wife is sufficiently onboard. It will be difficult enough dealing with the Special Shinnies and their Shabbos goy running dogs without having to content with a panicking spouse, White men are focusers not multitaskers. That goes for you too Raina, make sure the hamsters are okay with your anti-Semitism.
2003-09-12 20:05 | User Profile
Madsciencetype et al:
Could you please provide a link to a credible "Guns for WNs 101" site.
I'm in the market. Thanks.
2003-09-12 21:24 | User Profile
Could you please provide a link to a credible "Guns for WNs 101" site.
Not really, since most firearms boards are Semitically Correct and any questions from a WN would be met with outright hostility and banning, kind of like FreeRepublic.
However, if you can stand the Zionist suckpoopery and are willing to keep a low profile, you might find some answers at the forum:
[url=http://www.thehighroad.org]www.thehighroad.org[/url]
Bring some Pepto, though, as the site is essentially FreeRepublic, but all gun-nuts.
[url=http://www.patriotnetwork.net]www.patriotnetwork.net[/url] is not dedicated to firearms, but you might find answers there and it has the bonus of not being SC at all.
You will find a ton of varied and sometimes conflicting opinions wherever you go.
As for my opinion to what firearm(s) you might get, it really depends on your location.
Certain locations frown on or outright ban "assault weapons" as defined by having certain "evil" cosmetic features like a bayonet lug, flash hider, detachable magazine, etc. So those could be out.
Some things to keep in mind: are you in the country or the urban jungle? Heavily forested and hilly or flat? IOW, at what kind of ranges and terrain are you expecting to have to shoot?
Anyway, a good "starter" gun would be a .22 rimfire autoloader of some kind, because there's essentially no recoil, little noise and the ammo is cheap enough (500 rounds of copper plated .22 runs about $10 or less) to allow plenty of practice without breaking the bank and the fundamentals it teaches are just as useful when firing something bigger. At that price, I keep a lot of .22 ammo around. I have a Ruger 10/22 that I like very much. It cost about $170 and included one 10-round magazine. Extras run about $10, but some are cheaper.
Second, a 12GA shotgun is a great all-around defense weapon for the house. The Remington 870 pump is pretty much the standard here, although the Mossberg 500 and Winchester 1300 aren't bad, either. Expect to pay about $250 for the basic 870 and in the neighborhood of $200 for either of the latter guns. Sometimes you can find a package deal that has a "defense" type barrel of 18" or so as well as a 26-28" choked barrel for wingshooting and such for a bit more. Keep the thing loaded with #6 or #7 birdshot and you're set. Some folks love to use 00 buckshot or slugs (probably because they sound scary) but at short range, such as having an intruder in the house, #6 or #7 will make hamburger out of any threat just fine and has the advantage of being less likely to sail through an interior wall and hit someone else. You can use the bigger stuff, no problem, just keep in mind it's got more recoil. The #7 or #6 birdshot runs about $3.50 for a box of 25, less if you buy a case.
A good centerfire rifle is next in my mind, preferably something light and handy with a decent capacity. Really, the choices mostly depend on your budget, stature and legal jurisdiction. The first on my wish list would be a well-made FN-FAL or a clone. It's a .308 cal rifle that's hard-hitting and has a 20-round capacity. Magazines are cheap ($5-15) and plentiful, even in spite of the 1994 magazine ban. However, the disadvantage is the price: $1000+ for a decent one. There are some out there for around $400-500, but they're usually not worth it, being assembled with used parts and crappy receivers. The .308 M1A is a very good gun , but I don't recommend it because it's heavy, expensive ($1100-1500+) and the magazines are pricey too ($45-70) for a twenty rounder. In the .223 caliber you have the AR-15 clones and the Ruger Mini-14. The AR-15 clones run the gamut from excellent to poor in quality, so stick with a decent manufacturer like Colt, Bushmaster or DPMS, as they have the best quality control. Bushmaster is probably the best bang for the buck, since with Colt the quality is the same but you're paying for the name and the civilian Colt AR-15 models may not be compatible with cheap and plentiful (but good) military spec spare parts, which the other two are. Expect to pay about $750-$900 for a 16" or 20" barreled gun. Spare magazines range from horrid to excellent. Stay away from the ultra-cheap ones, as the magazine is the most failure-prone part on the AR-15. Stick with Orlite polymer mags ($15-25 each), Thermold polymers ($20-30 each) or USGI steel or aluminum mags ($20-35 each). All work well. Not too fond of the Mini-14, but that's just personal preference; some folks I know swear by them. Lastly, you have the venerable AK-47 clones. These can be dicey on quality and they're uniformly ugly in fit and finish, but they work. The 7.62x39mm round is a decent compromise between the power of the .308 and .223. A good Romanian AK can be had for about $300. Pretty much all 30-round AK magazines are fine as well as cheap ($7-18 each) and are tough as the proverbial brick :dung: -house, so used ones are usually fine to buy. The AK's not quite as accurate as any of the above weapons, but it is highly reliable, which is something to think about. If money's tight, the SKS is also a 7.62x39 gun, but it's cheaper. They can be had for $150-250 or so. They're good guns, but some have fixed magazines while others take detachable ones that are more expensive than the AK. They also vary wildly in quality. I don't have one because it's really a crapshoot on getting a good one or a lemon.
Lastly, and certainly least, a good handgun can't hurt, but unless you plan on carrying a pistol on your person for self-defense, I would get the other guns squared away first. But, if you do get one, a .45 cal clone of the 1911 Colt would be a good choice.
Oh, and you should keep 500-1000 rounds around for your centerfire rifle. That sounds like a lot, but it really isn't; you will go through it fast with a semi-auto.
.308's going to be about $100-200 per 1K plus shipping. .223 steel-cased from a decent maker like Wolf will be about $100 per 1K plus shipping. .223 brass-cased will be about $150-200 per 1K plus shipping. 7.62x39 steel-cased Wolf will be from $75-100 per 1K delivered. (another point for the AK!) 7.62x39 brass-cased I don't bother with since the steel stuff is so cheap, but it's there if you want it.
[url=http://www.ammoman.com]www.ammoman.com[/url] is a decent place to window-shop for ammo.
Sorry to take so long, but one last thing I would recommend is to pick up a copy of Shotgun News at your local newsstand and see what's available, then try to find a gun range in your area that rents guns. That way you can try out various guns to see what you like before you plonk down your money for something you might not be happy with.
Any questions, feel free to PM me so I won't clutter up the thread any more.
2003-09-12 21:42 | User Profile
Thank you, I'll digest the above and PM you later with my particulars.
2003-09-13 18:01 | User Profile
If you aren't very skilled shooter, an AK beats FN-FNAL or AR hands down, because you won't extract the extra accuracy out of it unless you are a very serious gun nut. Buy two AKs, and give the other one to your wife, and you'll still have money to spare.
An AK is functional and reliable as a baseball bat. In fact, you can probably use it in that role, if you run out of ammo :lol: It also has few parts, and all of them are large and loose-fitting.
2003-09-14 05:29 | User Profile
Ummm?
Ygg on the Stormfront thread:
The most important movie of the last decade for our purposes was "Simone." Rent it and pay careful attention to the technolgy shown. We can now make movies without the cost of actors. We can now portray life in the multi-cultural hell hole as it really is, using animations instread of having to run the gauntlet of hiring actors from hostile ethnic groups who will refuse to play the roles.
This is problematic.
Both my math and my experience tell me that a fair majority of whites already have experienced the "multicultural hell hole as it really is" so why would seeing it on a DVD make any difference?
Unless Ygg is implying that American whites are so far gone that they must see reality portrayed back at them from a screen before they believe it. If he's right, what's left to save?
2003-09-14 06:43 | User Profile
Unless Ygg is implying that American whites are so far gone that they must see reality portrayed back at them from a screen before they believe it. If he's right, what's left to save?
I think that's exactly what Ygg is saying.
But I don't think it's as hopeless as you think.
Our species communicates with symbols, and we recognize our tribal leaders because they hold the symbols we associate with legitimate authority.
Ants, by way of analogy, communicate with scents, and they recognize their own kind and their various castes through an exceedingly complicated set of scent cues.
Just as some parasitic ant species evolved to take over foreign ant hives by breaking the scent codes and posing as the hive's leaders - effectively enslaving the hive - so too has the Tribe evolved culturally (genetically?) to break the symbolic codes of other tribes and to pass themselves off as the natural leaders, effectively enslaving that other tribe.
Now, to push the analogy a bit further, the great majority of ants are not leaders, and they are genetically pre-programmed to be followers. So it is with us humans. "Too many chiefs, not enough Indians" is a reciepe for trouble in any human society, and Evolution designed the great majority of us to follow the leader. This is natural and normal. It's also something that I resisted for a long time, but my reading in sociobiology (not terribly profound reading, I should add) convinced me that it is simply not the case that people are rugged individuals with each fit to define reality under their own steam. In short, the great majority of our fellows were designed by Nature to fall in ranks and salute, and the whole idea of every man being a Clint Eastwood hero riding the high plains on his own, that's a lot of nonsense, and destructive nonsense at that. Most people want to be recognized and valued for what they are - good workers, hard working and law abiding followers who give their all for the group. And rightly so. We need to accept that, IMHO.
Anyway, back to the analogy, the Tribe hijacked our mass media - which is our species' system of symbols that establish social identity - and succeeded in establishing themselves, in the minds of our own people, as the legitimate rulers of our own European, Christian and English-speaking American tribe.
Ygg and guys like him (some are to found on this Board) are the rightful leaders of our tribe, but our parasitic Usurpers extruded and marginalized them in the minds of our own people through decades of careful manipulation of our symbols, and the only way that we can resist them is to recapture from the Tribe our own mass media.
Ygg's right about that. Effective resistance to our own collective Parasite is through guerilla tactics aimed at interrupting the Tribe's control of our system of symbolic communication. Thus, the idea of using modern technology - which our people invented - to mass produce symbolic representations that communicate to our people that the Tribe is a parasitic enemy, and are not their rightful leaders. I think that Ygg is saying that the filme Simone is important because it shows that technology has given us the means of producing and distributing powerful competing symbols on the cheap.
Our people are held in the Matrix, and we must challenge them within the Matrix, in order ultimately to capture it and turn it to our own purposes.
Walter
2003-09-14 18:31 | User Profile
Many underestimate the power that the moving pictures have over peoples' minds. Imagine "Braveheart" directed at the Chirst-killers. Or "Pearl Harbor" replaced with "USS Liberty". The human brains thinks in associations and templates, with a little amount of critical abilities able to override the already petrified base of convictions, naturally needed for survival as an adaptation mechanism. But the hardwired part is as is important for survival, as it makes people react in a way benefitial to "your people". There is only one caveaut -- once the healthy reactions get replaced with hollywitz/telewitz distortions, it becomes counter-productive and suicidal for the whites. How do you displace that? Some argue that solid argumentation will convert people. But we see the results. So appeal must be made towards both critical abilities and in a way that makes people react emotionally.
Propaganda MUST be fought with counter-propaganda. As well as by other means.
2003-09-17 20:48 | User Profile
This is possibly the most important thread going, either here or SF.
I think by saying 'stockpile DVD burners', Ygg meant to emphasize the importance of the media relative to all other fronts, almost to the exclusion of weaponry. Let's face it, there'll be no uprising of the common man, no march on Washington by a citizens' army. Our personal arms are useful, at the moment, only for self-defense against criminals (which self-defense is practically illegal already) or that last fateful shoot-out.
Media is our only real weapon for the time being, and in fact the effective use of it is our only hope.
Thanks to Yannis for a brilliant bit of writing - may I repost that at SF?
Dan Dare - also check out Paladin Press.
2003-09-18 18:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Thanks to Yannis for a brilliant bit of writing - may I repost that at SF?[/QUOTE]
Thanks, and sure you can post it to SF or anywhere else for that matter.
Walter
2003-09-27 19:27 | User Profile
"Media is our only real weapon for the time being, and in fact the effective use of it is our only hope."
True enough, jackboot. Think of it this way. One Jared Taylor or Kevin MacDonald is more dangerous to the enemy than a thousand skinheads.
2003-10-08 22:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]"Media is our only real weapon for the time being, and in fact the effective use of it is our only hope."
True enough, jackboot. Think of it this way. One Jared Taylor or Kevin MacDonald is more dangerous to the enemy than a thousand skinheads.[/QUOTE]
I'm a big fan of the Skins, but I hate to see them getting these astronomical sentences for incidents that are little more than pranks. The reality of the situation is that we just have to walk the straight and narrow. A soldier in jail for twenty years is of little use to us. Yet, we all know, if we respond to the negroes' violence in kind, we'd have a lot less trouble out of them.
They know they can kick a White man around with near-impunity - what's a few weeks in the county to your average street negro? A routine part of his life.
A White man of course faces total ruination of his life if he smacks a negro around. These hate crimes laws are, as the jews intended, very intimidating.
The point is that a coordination of media with muscle would be a very effective combination, but that is not an option for us at the moment. Hence, focus on the media to the near-exclusion of all else.
2003-10-09 00:48 | User Profile
Hugh, Walter, Jack and Mad,
Excellent thinking on the subject of influence. We have been losing a war of ideas for decades. Most gentiles are almost completely brainwashed and have no idea just how powerful media is, and this includes many people who have high IQ's and Phd's.
The first step in turning it around is to enlighten them with an understanding of the strategic value of media as a weapon. This will open the door to their acknowledgement of having been decieved.
2003-11-03 18:10 | User Profile
This is one of the best threads I've ever seen.
Quite a few years back I distilled the battlefield down to a simple formula:
MONEY controls the MEDIA
MEDIA controls the MINDS OF THE MASSES
MINDS OF THE MASSES control the MACHINERY OF DEMOCRACY
MACHINERY OF DEMOCRACY controls the MILITARY
You are all completely right that we must develop our own multi-format media... to be supported by money from advertising from a group of interlocking businesses. A media machine like that will slowly gain influence in the minds of our people, and the whole thing will grow until we gain the legal and militaristic power to take our country back from the Jews and their assorted minions.
That model will work... however, there is another model that could also co-exist with that... the idea of public meetings and rallies. Because human beings are still primarily social animals, no media format can ever create the sort of emotion that a dynamic pubic speaker can rile up. Remember, in Weimar Germany, the Nazi's used media formats like newspapers and radio, but their most powerful weapon was public speaking and rallies. Human contact and shared emotion are much more powerful than any media format.
People are still animals at their core and respect and are attracted to displays of daring and strength. That's why the ZOG was so determined to neutralize Matt Hale of the WCOTC, because he was the only White patriot with the balls to hold mass meetings and rallies, and the emotion and buzz it created was electrifying. Just the memory of it brings a smile to my face. The meeting in York, PA generated enormous media attention, and resulted in a huge increase in interest and membership in the WCOTC.
Believe it or not, he had ZOG (and a lot of multi-cultis) very worried, and he's just an average public speaker. The downside of course, is that it made him a target for ZOG entrapment. Now, a dynamic speaker could light a fire under the asses of the comatose White people of this country, and turn things around very quickly, but not many people are willing to take the chance at being so high profile. The National Alliance seemed to want to distance itself from rallies like that, and ended up alienating their main proponent of rallies, Billy Roper.
Media is one of the main keys to turning things around, but the human need for events and excitement means that public speeches and rallies will probably be necessary at some point.
A combination of money, media and mass meetings will probably get the job done.
2004-01-13 23:09 | User Profile
"Both my math and my experience tell me that a fair majority of whites already have experienced the "multicultural hell hole as it really is" so why would seeing it on a DVD make any difference?
Unless Ygg is implying that American whites are so far gone that they must see reality portrayed back at them from a screen before they believe it. If he's right, what's left to save?"
I share your frustration (or perhaps I "feel your pain," LOL) but I think you are being too cyncial, with all due respect. People are naturally followers, else civilization wouldn't have been possible. A bunch of raving individualistic self-thinkers weren't going to develop large-scale agriculture, i.e. they would have remained like the Negroid subsistence farmers of Zimbabwe. The problem is that the noble King, the glorious Emperor, the village Elder, the wise Statesman, etc., all of these have been replaced by the Electronic Jew. For most Americans, t.v., and the people they see on it, are their leaders. That is because they have no others, and they have an instinctual need for some sort of leadership (95-98% of them do, anyway). A few decades of Jewish television and public "education" would have ruined the stern yeoman of any age, not just the contemporary American bourgeoise. Seeing people on t.v. being bullied by nonWhites, and having this explained to them in explicitly racialist terms on their beloved t.v. screens, will have an impact on them that being stared down by Mexican gangbangers (as happens to me here at least once a week in San Jose) will not. T.V. has become real life. Its weird, yes, but its no reason to despair. Our genes haven't changed much since the days of Plato, Jefferson and Hitler (or whomever you admire).