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Thread ID: 9719 | Posts: 12 | Started: 2003-09-11
2003-09-11 05:52 | User Profile
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3098064.stm]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3098064.stm[/url]
German police say they have foiled a possible neo-Nazi bomb plot by arresting five people and seizing weapons and explosives in a series of raids.
Three suspected far-right militants - including a woman - were arrested at a flat in Munich on Tuesday, according to officials.
Police also say they found hand grenades, pistols, and enough TNT to blow up a building, at various locations in the city.
Two other men allegedly linked to the Munich suspects were arrested in the eastern states of Brandenburg and Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania.
The raids were carried out after an investigation triggered by the arrest in July of another suspected far-right militant, who police believe is a member of the same group.
They add that the group could be involved in an apparent attempt to bomb Dresden railway station in June, when explosives were found in an abandoned suitcase.
At the time police said the device had been planted by either neo-Nazis or Muslim radicals.
2003-09-12 02:33 | User Profile
Young Germans are wondering how their grandfathers can be reviled as the epitome of evil on Earth. I just read an article which said that 34 % of Germans under 30 believe the Spt 11th attacks were an instrumentation of either the Mossad or the US government through remote control. The kinship between France and Germany has never been stronger. I am only going to say that I believe the governments of France and Germany are much wiser than the United States. I look to them and Italy and the rest of the Euros as a last bastion of intelligence but more importantly as a last bastion against world domination. I live in America, but America has been victimized just like Canada and even Europe. Until immigration is controlled by all no changes will ever occur. Civilization has to defend itself against parasites. ANyone with no id at all can go into Canada and become a citizen with health coverage . When exactly did the Western Hemisphere lose its relevance as moral truth ? Its happenned, and I respect the governments of Europe much more than I respect the goverment of the UNited States of AMerica, a totally antiquated term which has no meaning.
2003-09-12 02:51 | User Profile
Exelsis_Deo I agree with many of your sentiments. France and Germany are bastions against world domination, although you forgot good ol' Mother Russia ;)
**When exactly did the Western Hemisphere lose its relevance as moral truth ? **
I believe it happened when America stopped taking pride in its European heritage and started to create a new American identity based on a perverted pop culture. In other words, the affluent suburban yuppies started defining what was American.
Where else can you find somebody of French decent say that France sucks and his only reply is "well I'm an American period". American is not an ethnicity mister. Suburban Yuppies define themselves by material possessions not ethnicity. :thd:
2003-09-12 09:47 | User Profile
Originally posted by perun1201@Sep 11 2003, 20:51 * Where else can you find somebody of French decent say that France sucks and his only reply is "well I'm an American period". American is not an ethnicity mister.*
No, but America was developing into an ethny. Because its racial makeup is no longer homogenous and its 'culture' is defined by an alien elite the chances of a new ethny being added to the European pool are zero. The Civil War didn't help either.
2003-09-12 13:26 | User Profile
Wandering further off topic a recent letter in the VNN reader mail references Joseph Goebbels' essay God's Country which most of us here have no doubt seen before. It serves to illustrate that the roots of decay had grown deep even by 1942.
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According to official American statistics, there are 190 Protestant and 430 Catholic churches in New York, but 1000 synagogues [I'm not sure of the veracity of this]. What else should one expect of a city with a Jewish mayor who recently attempted at a reception for foreign journalists to explain European problems in the jargon of the gangsters! The Jews have given their stamp not only to this city, but the whole of public life. The president is surrounded by Jewish advisors and his wife clears the way for her Jewish friends to enter the administration and war office. One feels the need to wash one's hands after reading American newspapers. They are filled with intellectual filth, daily printing such stories as an announcement that a number of prisoners have formed "Fighters, Inc.," and offered their services to the President. They were ready to fight in the ranks of the Allies against aggression. Mr. Roosevelt happily accepted their offer. Can anyone name a single country in Europe where the public would accept such a thing? There was not a word of protest in the U.S.A. The same president recently told a press conference that a surprisingly large number of young people were unsuited for service in the army and the marines because they could not read or write. Is it any surprise that a cunning and demagogic leadership can do what it wants with a nation of such an educational level?
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So far, not a single U.S.A. soldier has set foot on foreign soil, but many have been chased back to U.S. soil in disgrace. After a siege of two or three weeks, an army of 60,000 men with munitions and food sufficient for six months gave up, leaving all of 600 dead behind. That does not bother its brilliant leadership in the least. Of course, it does not have a citizenry able to defend itself against such silly illusions. Everything is junk and make-believe. Everything is sensational. Public opinion can be kneaded like dough. It is a paradise for cunning Jews and businessmen who terrorize the people while flying the flag of democracy and citing Roosevelt's Four Freedoms. Only in the U.S.A. is it possible for criminals to become world famous gangsters, the guests of mayors and police chiefs, who give interviews for journalists from newspapers with circulations in the millions in which they give their opinions on the questions of the day. **
[url=http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb5.htm]Full eassy here[/url]
2003-09-12 16:04 | User Profile
The U.S.A. has no poets, no painters, no architects or composers of world stature.
Ezra Pound, T.S. Eliot, Robert Frost, William Carlos Williams?
2003-09-12 16:27 | User Profile
Originally posted by Bardamu@Sep 12 2003, 10:04 * > The U.S.A. has no poets, no painters, no architects or composers of world stature.*
Ezra Pound, T.S. Eliot, Robert Frost, William Carlos Williams?**
It is nazi propaganda Bardamu, it's purpose is not to be even-handed. However like all good propaganda it is based on the truth.
2003-09-12 16:49 | User Profile
"The Civil War didn't help either."
Thanks, na Gaeil is gile. That Sovietesque consolidation was the necessary foundation for Jewish infection. The founders were keenly aware of the danger of old world "powers" and the likelihood of the usurpation of their new states by them. Even though the effects we see today weren't as noticeable until the 20th century, the United States became, technically, a business enterprise on the day Abraham Lincoln took office. The US is now exactly what the founders sought to separate from, and Europe, ironically, suffers subordination to it.
Sorry if this is off topic.
2003-09-12 17:18 | User Profile
Originally posted by na Gaeil is gile+Sep 12 2003, 10:27 -->
QUOTE (na Gaeil is gile @ Sep 12 2003, 10:27 ) <!--QuoteBegin-Bardamu@Sep 12 2003, 10:04 * > The U.S.A. has no poets, no painters, no architects or composers of world stature.* Ezra Pound, T.S. Eliot, Robert Frost, William Carlos Williams?**
It is nazi propaganda Bardamu, it's purpose is not to be even-handed. However like all good propaganda it is based on the truth.**
Yeah, but it's not true. :) Goebbles says the United States has no world class poets, etc. and I just named four that we had. Ezra Pound was working in Italy at the time. So it is not true, although it may very well be now. Can anybody name a contemporary American poet of world class standing? Or composer, or architect, or painter?
xmetalhead
2003-09-12 18:27 | User Profile
Goebbels had many things correct about America in that little ditty of his, and it's certainly much worse now 60 years later in 2003 Amerikwa, which is in the iron grip of the Eternal Enemy. Was this guy a prophet or what?
France, Germany and Russia, despite the abomination of belonging to the EU, are forging the new path of resistance to Zionist world domination. Those countries and their populace, despite their own internal problems, are much more educated, sophisticated, and profound than the American masses. Despite having jews among them, the Euros are not so much in the death grip of the Tribe as America is currently suffering. Those European countries have repressive "hate speech" laws on their books but their leaders, officials and others have said things about Israel that American politicians would be hung, drawn and quartered if uttered here. Yet, the US is the "land of the free, home of the brave" and we have "free speech"! WTF? America, 2003, is an anomaly of its original intentions.
jamestown
2003-09-12 20:23 | User Profile
**Exelsis_Deo I agree with many of your sentiments. France and Germany are bastions against world domination, although you forgot good ol' Mother Russia **
Wishful thinking. Chirac ran against Lepen and can hardly be called a patriot. Gerhard Schroeder and Joschka Fischer are strongly in the jewish camp. Fischer has always taken the pro Israel stand and is very philosemitic. As for the rivaltry between Europe and the United States: It is just a power struggle for the world's resources. TotalFina and RoyalDutch want their share of the oil pie. Well, and the Russian Oiljews just want their share of the Caspean enterprise. States are criminal enterprises. I would not interpret too much into it that the various western states sometimes have an argument with each other on how to divide up the loot.
As with the so called terror alert in Munich. It is basically the far left Sueddeutsche Zeitung that publishes such nonsense. Don't take that serious. Interiour Minister of Bavaria Beckstein is a diehard law and order politician who wants to use the military for domestic reasons. That clown is a joke and makes look Ashcroft reasonable. There are constantly news about the so called threat of right wing terrorism. Anyway, the media is constantly running the terrorism hype. It is the same 911 madness like in America. The antiterrorism bill of Interior Minister Schily, DNA databases, the merging of the secret services with the police, politicized judges and attornies, biometric identity cards, transeuropean databases, record high wiretapping of phone calls, Westphalia's crackdown on internet providers etc., the politicians are killing democracy in the name of democracy. Just a couple of years ago a Synagoge in Düsseldorf has been firebombed and the media went into a frenzy. Later on it turned out that some Arabs carried out that attack. Prime suspect Martin Wiese in this case is a gun fan and just violated the gun control laws. That is nothing special. The news proclaim that he wanted to blow up the Octoberfest. There is no evidence for that but the propaganda purpose is clear: scare the hell out of ordinary people that some evil nazis just want to blow up some boozers.
**They add that the group could be involved in an apparent attempt to bomb Dresden railway station in June, when explosives were found in an abandoned suitcase. **
The propaganda is so primitive is it unbelievable. It is all about "could be", "there might be a connection", "it is suspected" bla bla bla. No evidence, just speculations. But propaganda works by constant repetition. The average brain is like butter.
**Those countries and their populace, despite their own internal problems, are much more educated, sophisticated, and profound than the American masses. **
Are you joking? Germans have more free TV channels than Americans. Newspaper and book sales are in decline for years. There are just TV junkees left.
friedrich braun
2003-09-17 00:00 | User Profile
LG comments on a different forum (he lives in Bavaria where the arrests took place).
**These are hoax-stories!
The right wing movement in Germany is so inflitrated with secret police and stooges, that one can easely claim they make up 50-60% of the "Nazis". The Bomb at the Dresden Railwaystation was defect. If it would have went off, it would have killed and injured hundreds of Germans. Now tell me, which "Nazi" would indiscriminately kill his own people? There are enough other targets I would hit. Convoys of the occupants, american and jewish schools, offices and institutions. Offices of the Green party or the communists. This looks very much like a Mossad Job. In Germany everyone is fed up with the politicians and the established partys. Such a massacre would only benefit them, so they can again warn the people about the terrorist Nazis and how they themselves are the only ones that care for the masses. **
In Munich they are building a GIANT jewish community-center. The intend to set the corner-stone on 9th November (aniversery of the Kristalnacht). They claim on TV that the Neonazis planned to set the bomb during that ceremony and blow the cornerstone away. That story is obviously a load of sh*t. Everyone knows that jewish institutions and persons are guarded like the crown-jew[e]ls of England. No one could get near that site without a thorough bodycheck. It just gives the Jews a new opertunity to bemoan their fate. On TV you have now more Jews as usual (Yes, that is actually possible!) The head of the jewish community in Munich is nambed "Knobloch" which means "Garlic" (Knoblauch). What a fitting name!