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Hilaire Belloc [OP]

2003-09-09 14:29 | User Profile

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Germany, France, Russia to start diplomatic war with US

France and Germany are starting another diplomatic battle against the United States. According to the Daily Telegraph, they disagree with a new UN resolution on Iraq.
09/09/2003 17:14 Washington believes that the international community should provide more troops and funds for the restoration of Iraq. At the same time, the Americans are going to retain political and military control in Iraq, while Germany and France believe that the country should be ruled by a new Iraqi government.
The newspaper interprets Washington’s latest initiative as a climb-down by the Bush administration. Washington made no secret of its contempt for the UN after the failed attempt to secure a Security Council resolution authorizing war. After the downfall of Saddam Hussein, the Security Council unanimously agreed to a US call for all sanctions against Iraq to be lifted and granted America and Britain unfettered powers to run the country. But as the security situation has deteriorated, France and Germany may feel they now have enough strength to take on the United States in a new round of diplomatic arm-wrestling, the Daily Telegraph reports.

In this situation, Britain will resume its familiar role of trying to bridge the gap at the UN, the newspaper continues. However, according to it, this won’t be easy. The Daily Telegraph quotes its source in the Whitehall as saying that "changing the political structure of the authority is too high a price to pay for a resolution". The bargaining may eventually be decided by Russia, in the opinion of the newspaper. Moscow at first lined up with Paris and Berlin in opposing the war but in recent days has sent supportive signals to America, it says.

Meanwhile, the Iraq Governing Council made clear that it opposed the deployment of peacekeeping troops from Turkey and other neighboring states. "We don't want such interventions to happen because they will further complicate" efforts to restore order, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari was quoted as saying.

However, the US thinks Turkish troops should be deployed in Iraq. According to the Associated Press, this issue was discussed at a meeting of Turkish and American diplomats on Thursday.

Source by Gateway Russia.


Dan Dare

2003-09-09 22:32 | User Profile

Robert Kaplan interviewed in The Atlantic appears to be thinking along the same lines:

*. I think a world operated by the French, the Germans, and the Russians would have a kind of realpolitik that is more of the seventeenth century than the twentieth century. It would be so cold-blooded, and yet it would be dressed up with self-righteous moral statements, like the "world community" and "every country is sovereign." The result would be that some horrible dictators would flourish. And remember, Russia is not really a democracy. Germany has never really exhibited much wisdom in foreign affairs. If you look at how the French have operated in sub-Saharan Africa, how they operated supporting the Serbs in the Balkans, you will see that despite all the statements, their actual operations on the ground in many parts of the world have been, by any moral standards, worse than ours. *

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No surprise that he takes the standard neocon line that America knows best.


Hilaire Belloc

2003-09-10 05:34 | User Profile

No surprise that he takes the standard neocon line that America knows best.

Robert Kaplan is one of the biggest morons I've ever read!

The view that France, Germany, and Russia(Europe's 3 most powerful nations) uniting is hardly uncommon a view among geo-political "experts".


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-10-06 21:33 | User Profile

I don't think Kaplan is a moron. He's just a Jew, looking out for Jewish interests.


Hilaire Belloc

2003-10-07 01:47 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Eendracht Maakt Mag]I don't think Kaplan is a moron. He's just a Jew, looking out for Jewish interests.[/QUOTE]

Would explain his lousy attempts at military strategy in his "Warrior Politics". It's largely garbage as a source for military strategic thought and Christian bashing. A better Jew to read would be Martin Van Creveld(who saids that low-intensity racial/ethnic based warfare is the wave of the future).