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Centinel [OP]

2003-09-08 11:32 | User Profile

From CNSNews.com, available online at: [url=http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200309\POL20030908a.html]http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Pa...L20030908a.html[/url]

White Racist Endorses Bustamante in California Recall

By Nathan C. Masters CNSNews.com Correspondent September 08, 2003

(CNSNews.com) - A self-described racist has endorsed California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante in the California recall election, praising the candidate for being what he calls "a separatist," based on Bustamante's past association with a racist Hispanic organization.

The unusual endorsement by Tom Metzger, former Grand Wizard of the California Ku Klux Klan and director of the White Aryan Resistance, was accompanied by a call for all like-minded Californians to vote for Bustamante in the Oct. 7 election.

Insisting his endorsement is legitimate, Metzger said he hopes that if Bustamante is elected, the issue of immigration and border control will reach a boiling point.

"Worse is better, to bring it to a head," Metzger said. "Either we're going to solve this by realistic negotiation or there will be blood on the border. One of the two ways is the only thing that's going to solve this problem."

As a student at Fresno State College in the 1970s, Bustamante was active in an organization, called Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, more widely known as MEChA.

MEChA is a racist Hispanic separatist organization that seeks to "liberate" and "re-conquer" the southwestern United States for Mexico. The organization has received unusual attention recently following Bustmante's refusal to renounce his former membership in it.

Metzger, on the other hand, supports white control of the United States and although Bustamante "champions another race," Metzger supports Bustamante because his election would highlight the issues of race and nationalism.

"Since we feel just the opposite [of MEChA], that Southern California must be reserved for the Euro-American people, then at least we're getting the main issue out on the table," said Metzger.

Bustamante's campaign did not return phone calls seeking comment on this story, but Bustamante supporters have defended the lieutenant governor by noting that he was a "moderate" Mechista, or member of MEChA.

Republican gubernatorial candidate Tom McClintock criticized such a defense, however. "It's like saying, 'Oh, I was a moderate member of the Klan.' It's incumbent on Cruz Bustamante to clearly and completely renounce the organization and its tactics and its views," McClintock said in an interview on San Diego radio station KOGO.

By endorsing Bustamante and drawing more attention to MEChA's stated agenda, Metzger said it would force Californians to confront the issue of illegal immigration. "The immigration thing has to be brought to a head, and I feel that the best way to do that is endorse the worst, in the sense of he is a racist and he knows what I'm talking about," agued Metzger.

One of MEChA's founding documents, El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan, refers to a "brutal 'gringo' invasion of our territories" and includes the motto: "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada," which means "For the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing."

"If that isn't racist I don't know what is," said Metzger.

Aztlan refers to that territory ceded by Mexico to the United States in 1848, including California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and parts of Colorado, Utah, and Texas. MEChA maintains that Hispanics have a racial right to the land.

"Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans," El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan declares. "We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent."

Refusing to recognize the legitimacy of the current political disposition of California, many Mechistas refer to the state as "Alta California" (Upper California), which was the name of the land when it was a Mexican province.

MEChA also reportedly has ties to the Nation of Aztlan, a California-based organization that the Anti-Defamation League charges with "anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism, homophobia and other expressions of hatred."

Metzger said that he plans to schedule talks with the Nation of Aztlan. "They're highly interested in the Jewish question, I noticed, too, here in California," Metzger said, "so I'm going to approach them for dialogue."

Metzger noted that he has met with other non-white racial separatist groups in the past including the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.


Ron

2003-09-13 16:19 | User Profile

If Metzger wants to see Bustamante as Governor, maybe he should keep quiet. I don't see how his endorsements helps Bustamante.


Bardamu

2003-09-13 16:46 | User Profile

What do people here think of the cynical worse is better philosophy? Nationally it is a bad idea because of the probability of losing our First Amendment rights: if there is a coming collapse, which of some sort there probably is, people will need weapons as a means of protection.

Plus there is the issue of the tendency for Democrats (multicults and white female traitors) and Republicans (white men and true white woman) to drift apart into racial blocks. Is it smart to interrupt this tendency by cynical voting?

Also, I think cynicism is unsound as it leaves the domain of truth-seeking for falsehood, which can't be good. It replaces grim determination with a smirk.

It is better simply not to vote or to vote for your favorite fringe candidate than to vote for your worse enemy. It is too schizophrenic and the gods don't favor he who lies.


Buster

2003-09-13 18:02 | User Profile

**It is better simply not to vote or to vote for your favorite fringe candidate than to vote for your worst enemy. It is too schizophrenic and the gods don't favor he who lies. **

Probably true, like being a bit too clever.

But recall that short term wins can backfire, as when electing Clinton in '92 cost the democrats the Congress two years later. Bustamante backing into office might be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Also, Latinos are explicitly racialist, more than blacks or asians. Bustamante is one of us in that narrow sense. He might just force whites to face reality. The gods may work in mysterious ways.


Okiereddust

2003-09-13 18:46 | User Profile

Originally posted by Buster@Sep 13 2003, 18:02 * > *It is better simply not to vote or to vote for your favorite fringe candidate than to vote for your worst enemy. It is too schizophrenic and the gods don't favor he who lies. **

....Also, Latinos are explicitly racialist, more than blacks or asians. Bustamante is one of us in that narrow sense. He might just force whites to face reality. The gods may work in mysterious ways.**

These sorts of alliances with pro third-wordlers, who are, anti-zionist leftists, be it Noam Chomsky and the Green Party, Metzgers atempted alliance with Farakkan (remember that?) and now Aztlan always sound like they have some poyential, but never seem to work out.

The question I always have with people who come up with these plans, is, do they have any real political strategy, and do they have the fortitude to carry it out? And do they have any plan for actually getting something from these people they're supporting, rather than just giving.

Usually the answer is no. Which is why these things almost always fail.


Franco

2003-09-13 18:57 | User Profile

** If Metzger wants to see Bustamante as Governor, maybe he should keep quiet. I don't see how his endorsements helps Bustamante. **

Ron, others --

Now you are still thinking like c-c-c-conservatives. You have to start thinking like nationalists [thinking by race].

Metzger does not want Bustamante to win. Not at all. Metzer instead wants to inject "race" into the election. Hopefully, Suzie Shops-A-Lot will see that other races "think racially" and will begin thinking racially herself. She, and her type, will be polarized into White racial thinking. :)

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Centinel

2003-09-13 19:38 | User Profile

Franco:

Metzger does not want Bustamante to win.

I think he does. Seeing California go to hell in a handbasket while the folks back in Peoria watch caravans of white carloads leaving the state on the evening news is a white nationalist's wet dream come true.

Peter Brimelow's Alien Nation come to life.

Middle America will continue to dismiss the reconquista de Aztlan as a "conspiracy theory" until they see it happen before their own eyes.


madrussian

2003-09-13 21:23 | User Profile

The last several decades seems like a huge con pulled on the whites, with the whites still being unsure whether they are being swindled. Once the con becomes obvious to the least perceptive ones, it may be much harder to reverse things.


Walter Yannis

2003-09-14 07:06 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Bardamu@Sep 13 2003, 16:46 * ** What do people here think of the cynical worse is better philosophy? **

I am a "worse is better" proponent.

We're the proverbial frog in the pot. So long as the temperature goes up gradually, the frog won't notice it's being cooked. So it is with us.

The Tribe has done a great job of underming our institutions just gradually enough that the plebes don't rise up.

The election of Bustamante would help bring things to a head, as Metzger says.

Worse is better.

Bring on the collapse.

Apocalypse now.

Walter


Sisyfos

2003-09-14 11:31 | User Profile

No question that voting preference is relative, influenced by whoever is in office, and most voters on both sides of the political spectrum choose to alleviate their disappointment in the incumbent by supporting a candidate whose position, no matter how packaged, amounts to only a marginal difference. All else is labelled “extremist” and processed accordingly.

However, the truth of this does not influence the minds of “the worse is better” proponents because they have already discounted the electoral process. For them (myself included) the voting both has ceased to be a viable vehicle for securing the changes we want. We simply haven’t the numbers. The Jews have, to paraphrase, successfully altered the population makeup so that a pro-Aryan party can no longer attain power via electoral means. I would go further and say that this includes white-friendly or stealthy pro-Aryan parties, the hope once had for Buchanan and similarly "reform" minded folk. Their efforts fooled no one, be they liberals, minorities, or Eskimos. Even if someone like Buchanan made a successful run at the White House, i.e., obtained votes from the [u]overwhelming[/u] majority of whites, what leverage would he have to push through meaningful changes impacting immigration, multiculturalism, race quotas, etc. -- to say nothing of legislation enabling physical race separation, the thing that truly matters, for those that desire it -- given the composition of congress and indeed the country?

Implicit in the claim that votes matter is that there is some, perhaps only a miniscule, possibility that even one of the above items can be secured by elected representatives. If, after due consideration, it is determined that the voting booth cannot deliver the requisite changes, then the votes are indeed wasted. I believe this to be the case at the national level and most, if not all, but certainly the most populous, states. Accordingly, in lieu of wasting votes why not park them with those whose natural inclination is to expedite conditions historically known to be breeding grounds for the only alternative to electoral change -- chaos.


Walter Yannis

2003-09-14 12:39 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Sisyfos@Sep 14 2003, 11:31 * ** However, the truth of this does not influence the minds of “the worse is better” proponents because they have already discounted the electoral process. For them (myself included) the voting both has ceased to be a viable vehicle for securing the changes we want. **

Well put.

I don't believe in "democracy". That's one of those comforting lies our elites tell us to get us to peacefully acquise to our disinheritance.

As if our dispossession is somehow legitimated by millions of people voting for it.

I stand on my rights, and if any majority would deny me them, then pardon me but screw the living sh*t out of the majority.

I predict lots of pain and suffering before our people pull their heads out of their collective rear ends. But it's the only way they ever will wake up to the mortal threat that faces them.

Apocalypse now.

Walter


Ron

2003-09-14 17:21 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Franco@Sep 13 2003, 12:57 * ** > ** If Metzger wants to see Bustamante as Governor, maybe he should keep quiet. I don't see how his endorsements helps Bustamante. **

Ron, others --

Now you are still thinking like c-c-c-conservatives. You have to start thinking like nationalists [thinking by race].

Metzger does not want Bustamante to win. Not at all. Metzer instead wants to inject "race" into the election. Hopefully, Suzie Shops-A-Lot will see that other races "think racially" and will begin thinking racially herself. She, and her type, will be polarized into White racial thinking. :)

[edited] **

I know what Metzger is trying to do. However, his efforts are counter-productive. By his support, there are those who will turn away from Bustamante.
Bt the way, by all means vote your race as race and politics are essentially intertwined in todays political climate.


Bardamu

2003-09-14 17:46 | User Profile

I doubt if Bustamante will be any worse than a white liberal. Who can possibly deliver more absurd government than a white liberal? What kind of drastic change does anyone suppose Bustamante will implement that is going to so devastate California as to wake up the national lemmings?

There is a certain psychological tendency, that I don't think has a succinct name, I call it the Irish prison guard in an English prison system effect, where the Irish prisoners used to complain that the worst, biggest sons of bitches amongst the guards toward the Irish prisoners were their fellow Irishmen amongst the prison guard staff.

I think it is likely that a brown politician might in reality be less an anti-white son of a bitch than one of our own liberals. He doesn't have to keep proving his multi-cult bona fides by intertribal boot licking and abject national doormatism.