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yummybear [OP]

2003-09-05 18:00 | User Profile

Continued:

"The Bank of England and the Rothschilds continued to play a dominant role in the commercial life of the United States, causing panics and depressions for the Rothschilds whenever their officials were instructed to do so. When the Second Bank of the United States expired in 1836, and President Jackson refused t renew it, creating great prosperity in the United States when government funds were deposited in other banks, the Rothschilds punished the upstarts by causing the Panic of 1837. As Henry Clews writes, 'Twenty-Eight Years on Wall Street', p. 157, 'The Panic of 1837 was aggravated by the Bank of England when it in one day threw out all the paper connected with the United States.'"

One of the great Rothschild hoaxes was the 'disarmament movement' of the early 1930s. The idea was not to disarm, but to persuade the nations to junk what arms they had so they could later be sold new ones. 'The merchants of death', as they were popularly known in those days, were never more than errand boys for their true masters, 'the bankers of death;, or, as they were also known, 'the Brotherhood of Death'. In 1897, Vickers, in which Rothschilds had the largest holding, bought Naval Construction and Armament Co., and Maxim Nordenfeldt Guns & Ammunition Co. The new Vickers-Maxim Co. was able to test its products in the Spanish-American War, which was set off by J&W Seligman Co. to obtain the white gold (sugar) of Cuba; the Boer War of 1899-1901, to seize the gold and diamond fields of the Witwatersrand, and the Russo-Japanese War of 1905, designed to weaken the Czar and make the Communist Revolution inevitable. These three wars provided the excuse for tooling up for the mass production of World Wars I & II. In 1897, an international power trust was formed, consisting of DuPont, Nobel, Koln, and Rottweiler, which divided the world into four distinct sales terroritories"....

"The warmongers set up three principal organizations to force the United States into World War I - the Council on National Defense, the Navy League, and the League to Enforce Peace. The Council on National Defense was authorized by act of Congress August, 1916, although there was no nation on earth known to be contemplating any attack on the United States." ( note the similarities to what's being done today.)

"The Council on National Defense was chaired by Daniel Willard, pres. B&O RR; other members were Bernard Baruch, Julius Rosenwald, Samuel Gompers, Walter S. Gifford, pres. of AT&T, .....Hollis Godfrey, pres of Drexel Institute...Godfrey (claimed)... that the Council was actually created by himself, Howard Coffin ( of Hudson Motor Car Co. ) and Elihu Root." (of Brown and Root fame, I imagine)

"The principals of the Navy League wre J.P. Morgan of U.S. Steel, Charles Schwab of Bethlehem Steel, Col. R.M. Thompson of International Nickel, and B.F. Tracy, attorney for the Carnegie Steel Co. The principals of the League to Enforce Peace were Elihu Root, J.P. Morgan's lawyer, Lincoln Filene, Oscar Straus, John Hays Hammond,...Perry Belmont, the official representative of the Rothschilds, and Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb & Co. The watchword of these millionaire bankers was 'prepardness', and Asst. Sec. of the Navy Franklin Delano Roosevelt was already letting large Navy contracts in 1916, a year before we got into the war."

"Col. House ( Rothschild's agent ) wrote to President Wilson from London on May 29, 1914, 'Whenever England consents, France and Russia will close in on Germany and Austria.'"

"While preparing for war, Woodrow Wilson campaigned in 1916 on the slogan,' He kept us out of war'. H.C. Peterson notes in 'Propaganda for War', ....'To a large extent, the 9 million people who voted for Wilson did so because of the phrase, 'He kept us out of war.': Col. House later told Viereck that Wilson had concluded an agreement with the British in 1916, long before his campaign to involve us in the war. Roosevelt repeated the process in 1939."...

"Because of the secret planning needed to launch a major war, control of the communications media was essential. Kent Cooper, president of the Associated Presss, notes in Life, Nov. 13, 1944,...'Before and during the First World War, the great German news agency Wolff was owned by the European banking house of Rothschild, which had its central headquarters in Berlin. A leading member of the firm was also kaiser Wilhem's personal banker ( Max Warburg). What actually happened in Imperial Germany was that the Kaiser used Wolff to bind and excite his people to such a degree that they were eager for World War I. Twenty years later under Hitler the pattern was repeated and enormously magnified by DNB, Wolff's successors.'"

"Only one member of Congress voted against the U.S. declaration of war against Germany in World War I. Jeanette Rankin. She was also the only member of Congress to vote against our entry into World War II. Opponents of Wilson's action were often beaten and imprisoned. Eugene Debs was sentenced to a long prison term."...

"Meanwhile, Walter Lippman and another group were busily working on the plans for the League of Nations. Lippman had founded the American branch of the Fabian Society in 1905 as the Intercollegiate Socialist Society, which later became the Students for a Democratic Society...

Once the war was over a new fear was mounted as the New York Times announced, 'Reds Grip on Germany: Konigsberg, Frankfurt-on-Main, Strassburg now controlled by Spartacist Soviets.'... The New York Times stated, 'The revolution in Germay is today, to all intents and purposes, an accomplished fact.' On the same day, the New York Times headlined, 'Splendor Reigns Again: Jewels Ablaze" - "The occasion was a gala evening at the Metropolitan Opera....Attending were the Otto Kahns with the French Consul-General; the George F. Bakers and his sister Mrs. Goadby Loew; Cornelius Vanderbilt and his daughters; the Whitneys, the J.P. Morgans, and the E.T. Stotesburys; the Fricks, Mrs. Bernard Baruch; her husband was in Europe on important business; Mrs. Adolf Ladenburg. These celebrants were also the principal investors in American International Corporation, which was financing the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia."

"(Woodrow) Wilson returned to the United States July 8, 1919, laden with one million dollars worth of jewelry, gifts from appreciative Europeans as a reward for his promise to get the U.S. into the League of Nations. Not a single member of Congress has been with him at the Paris Peace Conference. His associates were the Fabians of America, Dr. James T. Shotwell, Eugene Delano, and Jacob Schiff. Herbert Hoover immediately joined Col. House as the most vociferous advocate of our joining the League of Nations."

"The Reparations Commission ordered the Germans to issue four issues of bond, all to be delivered to the Reparations Commission as follows: 1) 2 billion gold marks, 5 billion paper marks...for the army of occupation. 2) War cost of Belgium - 4 billion gold marks...3) 40 billion gold marks at 2 1/2 % interest ..The bankers immediately began to treat these gigantic sums as sources of capital, to be monetarized by loans and other negotiable instruments. Lloyd George told the N.Y. Journal American...'The international bankers dictated the Dawes reparations settlement. The Protocol which was signed between the Allies and Associated Powers and Germany, is the triumph of the international financier. Agreement would never have been reached without the brusque and brutal intervention fo the international bankers. They swept statesmen, politicians and journalists to one side, and issued their orders with the imperiousness of absolute monarchs, who knew that there was no appeal from their ruthless decrees."...

"Although the reparations clauses achieved the desired result of forcing the Germans to fight a Second World War, the primary result was the formation of a 'front' world government, the League of Nations, while in the background the conspirators established their real governing body, the World Order, through the Royal Institute of International Affairs, and its American subsidiary, the Council on Foreign Relations."

"In 1895, Cecil Rhodes, South African agent of the Rothschilds, established a secret society whose avowed purposes was as follows: 'In the end Great Britain is to establish a power so overwhelming that wars must cease and the Millenium be realized.' To achieve this goal, he left $150 million to the Rhodes Trust. The Rothschild already had a group with similar aims, the Round Table, set up by Lord Alfred Milner, into which J.P. Morgan had been recruited in 1899."

Following the Paris Peace Conference, Baron Edmond de Rothschild established the RIIA - the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London. Its founders were all Rothschild men. Its since been funded by millions of dollars from the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Corporation. "A number of popular books now in circulation claim that the Council on Foreign Relations is the secret government of the United States. Nothing could be more incorrect. The members of the Council on Foreign Relations have never originated a single item or policy for the U.S. Government. They merely transmit orders to our government officials from the RIIA and the House of Rothschild in London. It is true that the CFR comprises a ruling elite in the United States, but they are mere colonial governors absolutely responsible for their overseers in the World Order."...

"The RIIA has worked closely with the London School of Economics, which was set up as a training school for the World Order bureaucrats. The school was established in 1920 with financial aid from the Rothschilds and Sir Julius Wernher." One member of the school stated the " Our object is to make this institution a place to raise and train the bureaucracy of the future Socialist State."

"The British Empire has prospered on piracy, slavery and the drug traffic. Drakes Pirates became the Merchants Adverturers Co... which later became the Chartered Co. of East India. It was reorganized in 1700. It originally paid the Hong of Canton silver for tea, but discovered they would accept opium instead. This fortuitous arrangement encourntered resistance from some Chinese leaders, causing England to prosecute ten Opium Wars against China...In 1715 the British East India Co. opened its first Far East office in Canton. Crown Policy deliberately fostered opium addiction among the natives to facilitate British political control. The British Empire was then threatened with bankruptcy if it lost the American colonies. In order to defeat the rebels, the profits of the opium trade with China were sent to the Elector of Hesse via Mayer Amschel Rothschild to hire 16,800 Hessian troops. Thus the drug traffic and the Rothschilds played a pivotal role in American history, although it has been ignoredor deletedfrom the history books."...

Profiteers "from the drug trade included William, Earl of Shelburne, who organized Britain's first Intelligence Service, whose agents were drawn from Britain's leading families...The Geneva headquarters was run by the Mallet Prevost family, whose descendants include Allen Dulles of the CIA. Basil Lubbock's work, The Opium Clippers, 1933, lists the principal owners of British vessels engaged in the opium trade...Most of them were ex-slavers."


travis

2003-09-05 23:05 | User Profile

Yummybear,

I think it's strategically important for us to fully investigate and analyze the motives of the many gentiles who have been manipulated into collaboration with the Jews.

Eustace Mullins has done a great job of exposing the NWO among other things, but I wouldn't take his work as gospel, since much of it may be speculation.

John "Birdman" Bryant mailed a request for documentation and Mullins didn't reply:

[url=http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss/NetLoss-EustaceMullins.html]http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss/Ne...aceMullins.html[/url]

but most of the items he asks clarification on are circumstances where common sense would lead one to the same conclusions. In any case, not repling damages his credibility a little, I think.

It seems, unless I've missed something, that OD participants aren't very interested in secret societies and such, which is a shame in my opinion since ignoring this issue hasn't gotten us anywhere.


yummybear

2003-09-06 02:57 | User Profile

I think that Birdman often does things out of ego rather than because he wants a response. I remember reading an extensive exchange between him and one of the authors of The Bell Curve ( can't remember which one) in which he disputed the book's findings. Finally Birdman admitted that he had not actually read the book but had instead read several lengthy critiques and commentaries on the book. Once the author found that out he was astounded to have wasted his time arguing with Birdman. I would have been astounded as well since it's really the height of arrogance to contest an 800 page book you haven't read! So Birdman's asking for and not getting "documentation" kind of falls in the same category.

I think that people who are interestd in the subject can certainly take any section of Mullins work and see if they can verify it for themselves. But as I'm reading the book, it certainly ties together a lot of themes for me about what's happened to America. The progressive socialism we're experiencing; the fact that our govt. does nothing to stem the flow of third world immigrants to America; the degradation of our law and institutions, other books I've read that tie government agencies into the drug trade, etc. It all fits. I see the book as providing the framework for understanding all the things that are happening on a daily basis in this country. I think the global elite are accelerating their push for total control because the Internet has exposed them - even if only a fraction of the population know what's going on. This "war on terrorism" is totally bogus. 9-11 was an inside job and Bush was in on it.

I'll add one more thing. I don't think gentiles always get manipulated into helping Jews. A lot of them are just as corrupt and greedy as Jews are. Bush and Clinton are perfect examples of this. They love money a whole lot more than they love this country or its people.


travis

2003-09-06 12:22 | User Profile

"I don't think gentiles always get manipulated into helping Jews. A lot of them are just as corrupt and greedy "

Being corrupt and greedy makes a person easy to manipulate, especially by a group that has almost unlimited wealth and influence. Jewsh corruption and greed, in this case, is ethnocentric, and the corruption of collaborating gentiles is not.

But I'm looking for another manipulation tool. I want to address how secret societies fit into this. Among all those "elite" gentiles who get enriched by their collaboration, certainly there are a few with a keen sense of the obvious, who have enough money not to be solely money motivated, and who realize they have children and grandchildren who will have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Considering their number, it would seem that once in a while one would step out into the limelight and expose the operation, espescially if he were aged and cared not of prosecution of his own actions.

The only answer I come up with is that secret societies somehow prevent this and I want to know exactly how and whether there is a way we can help them or encourage them. They may be the only ones that can help us.


yummybear

2003-09-06 15:25 | User Profile

I think it's always a mistake to look for somebody else to "save" you. Every person who values his/her freedom must learn to speak out, to form like minded groups and to educate them as to what's going on. We have to stop waiting for a "savior" or Messiah to come along. There's nothing stopping any of us from running for public office, sending letters to the editor, forming groups to discuss these issues, etc. If I expected a member of the elite to defect to us, I think I'd be waiting a hell of a long time. Why should they? They'd be plundered or murdered by the rest of the jackals in short order. Above all else I'd tell people to get a gun and learn how to use it. That's the only thing stopping these people from locking us all up in a gulag.


travis

2003-09-06 17:05 | User Profile

Originally posted by yummybear@Sep 6 2003, 09:25 * *I think it's always a mistake to look for somebody else to "save" you.  We have to stop waiting for a "savior" or Messiah to come along. **

I wasn't advocating waiting for a savior, I was advocating recruiting insiders. As I see it the only way out of this mess is to recruit or convert as many people as we can in this short time interval between the creation and the inevitable censorship of the internet. Time is only on our side if the internet remains free, and it's on their side if they can get it censored, which they will probably accomplish soon.

What we have done so far hasn't worked. I think one of the main reasons for our failure is that they have subverted the secret societies. Reclaiming them to our side may be the key ingredient to our success, let's not pass it up.

I've known a few Masons in my life and many of them despise Jews. I think it would be monumentally idiotic to pass up any opportunity we can find/create to get them on our side.


Ragnar

2003-09-07 03:30 | User Profile

travis & yummybear --

Good exchange! Continue if you can.

You're both right if my experience is anything to go by. Secret societies are hugely important and America's CIA (eg) is set up along Masonic lines. Enough citizens raisinig hell can influence whistle-blowers and rogue elements if the hearings of the 70s are anything to go by. Citizen action can turn the insiders in the right direction.

Citizen apathy encourages gun grabbing and "hate" laws so you can't wait for an angel in Langley. But I gotta hope some of them are on our side.

You're both right.