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il ragno [OP]

2003-09-02 03:39 | User Profile

Anybody else watch that stomach-turning video of do-nothing donut eaters hiding behind their cruisers while the Pizza Bank Robber begged them to help disarm the live bomb he had strapped to him?

Yeah...you know which video I mean. Almost as vomitworthy as the Columbine footage of "law enforcement" similarly hiding behind their cruisers while two punk kids executed the faculty and student body, their bloodbath unmolested by armed and Kevlar-vested officers who had all memorized the new motto of all police: "our first concern is officer safety".

Well, goddamit, then don't take the cop test! Be a plumber or a factory worker! But if you do decide to 'protect and serve', then face the fact that in order for you to bitch endlessly about how you put your life on the line every day for an ungrateful public - between bites of your Krispy-Kremes - you might actually have to risk your life now and then!

(Just once, I wish someone would break that other 'blue wall of silence' - the one that prevents anyone from pointing out that many, if not most, cops join up because it offers a decent wage, a terrific pension and bennies package and a nice daily power-fix at the expense of the rest of us.)

Lord knows there's no lack of courage when it comes to arresting old men like Zundel, or coming out in force to puff out their chests crowd-controlling an NA rally, or when six cops gang-tackle a compliant 'perp' on COPS for the benefit of the adoring cameras. But watching that poor schmuck begging a dozen different cops to please free him from a bomb that someone had strapped on him and triggered....while they nervously smiled at each other and prepared for the 'boom'.....warrants a criminal probe.

I suppose it's moments like these when cops are grateful for a zillion fantastical tv shows and movies that depict them as selfless supermen running headlong into hails of bullets....and, while nobody wants to see officers killed in the line of duty, I've seen one too many real-life videos of real-life cops, all dressed up like Darth Vader, huddled behind their cars, waiting for the fireworks to stop, before showing themselves. But put them up against an unarmed crowd of protestors and they make like the Praetorian Guard.

So much for Kiefer Sutherland and WALKER TEXAS RANGER....


N.B. Forrest

2003-09-02 07:16 | User Profile

Yes, that was a disgusting display of cowardice. Most cops are just good goy attack dogs, eager to bite whomever their jew masters sic them on - as long as they're unable to defend themselves, that is.

As for their crowd-control at pro-White rallies, they usually only see fit to control the "white supremacist extremists" who're being jumped & piss ballooned by "aromatic" mobs of whigger-commie jew stooges.


Angler

2003-09-02 10:44 | User Profile

I agree completely. In fact, I despise 99% of those who work in law enforcement. Nearly all police are arrogant, power-tripping bastards who became cops so they could push people around without getting their asses kicked. Having the authority of the almighty State behind them jacks up their egos, making them feel like an important part of a "great entity."

And yes, "officer safety" is the trump card used by cops and their sycophants to justify all negligent (and malicious) killings and other violations of citizens' rights perpetrated by the police. It is no secret that police consider their own lives and the lives of their "brother officers" to be much more valuable than those of other citizens.

I could write volumes about why pigs are such arseholes, but what really infuriates me about them these days is their "wannabe commando" mindset. Everything is "tactical this, tactical that" when you read material related to the LE community. And notice the ski masks, dorky fingerless gloves, and other thugwear the SQUAT teams love to adorn themselves with in order to look like "bad asses"? As far as I'm concerned, anyone whose house is broken into in the middle of the night by a gang of those yahoos ought to open up on them with a good rifle and plenty of steel-core ammo. Watch them pee in their panties when they have to face a REAL foe, not a bunch of pacifistic hippy dope dealers.

Thanks for this opportunity to rant. :gun:


travis

2003-09-02 11:57 | User Profile

Authoritarianism is a personality disorder. This condition attracts many cops to the profession and may even be seen as a positive attribute by hiring departments. I'm sure the Jews would like to screen them that way.

But blaming, cussing and hating them hasn't done us any good. It would be very useful to recruit some of them and have them recruit from within. After all, cops are always having their face slapped with reality and many may be on the verge of waking up.


Hilaire Belloc

2003-09-02 12:40 | User Profile

Watch Reno 911 on Comedy Central, its the only TV show that protrays cops as the incompetent idiots that they really are. :lol:


il ragno

2003-09-02 13:00 | User Profile

Actually, I don't think it's anywhere near 99% of them. But what with the social engineering that law-enforcement must endure - like every other quadrant of society - it is becoming more and more of them.

Cops live in an us and them world, but the them used to be the scum of society - until they were forced to attend sensitivity seminars and the like. The result being that, more and more, the definition of them has shifted to all of US who aren't cops. Dividing police officers from all other members of a society is disastrous for the populace but necessary for the ruling elites. Who look upon that populace as a herd to be milked, and then directed to either the cattle-pen or the abattoir.


Avalanche

2003-09-02 13:21 | User Profile

Geez guys -- I didn't see any of YOU offering to run out to the guy with your complete lack of explosives training and try to disarm a bomb without knowing anything ABOUT disarming bombs!

Yes, it's a horror, what happened. But WHY do you expect a man with NO explosives training to be able to figure out how to disarm a bomb? YES, the bomb squad SHOULD have been more instantly available. But expecting "regular guys" to go figure out how to disarm a bomb WHILE the bomb is ticking is just silly!

I make no brief for those cops who ARE authoritarian bully boys -- but I also recognize it's craziness to expect guys with NO TRAINING in bomb management to manage bombs!! Hell, most cops don't even get sufficient firearm training -- and you expect them to be bomb experts?


Faust

2003-09-02 14:23 | User Profile

THE COPS SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER!

**FBI backs cops in bomb kill

Couldn't aid pizza man

By ALISON GENDAR DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Pennsylvania State Police acted appropriately when they ignored the frantic pleas of a suspected bank robber killed by a bomb strapped to his chest, an FBI agent said yesterday.

Despite criticism that cops should have done more to help Brian Wells as he sat handcuffed on the street last week, FBI Special Agent Kenneth McCabe said cops did "everything perfectly."

In footage of his last moments replayed over and over yesterday on cable news networks, Wells begs: "Why is it nobody's trying to come get this thing off me? I don't have a lot of time!"

Minutes later, an explosion is heard.

McCabe said the police "protected innocent lives" by pulling away and waiting for the bomb squad.

"The police and agents are not trained to go and defuse a bomb. It's not like TV shows, where we go up and try to guess, 'Do we cut the red wire or the green wire?' It's too dangerous," he told CNN yesterday.

McCabe said agents were investigating five theories behind Thursday's events, including whether the 46-year-old pizza deliveryman staged a bank heist that went awry.

The agent declined to discuss other leads in the case, and investigators in Erie, in northwestern Pennsylvania, have refused to comment. The FBI scheduled a news conference for this morning.

There were more questions than answers as the FBI analyzed traces of the bomb and a detailed list found in Wells' car on how to knock off a bank.

Wells told cops he was forced to commit the crime by someone who loaded him up with explosives. His boss at Mama Ria's Pizza-Ria said Wells offered to deliver an order on his way home. But the delivery led to a false address on a deserted road. Shortly after, Wells walked into the PNC Bank branch with a bomb bulging under his white T-shirt.

The county coroner was conducting an autopsy on his body yesterday.

At the same time, an autopsy was being performed on the body of Wells' friend and co-worker Robert Pinetti, 43, who was found dead Sunday at his parents' house.

Investigators who searched the house declined to say whether Pinetti was involved in the caper. A coroner said Pinetti's body showed no visible signs of trauma.

Some of Pinetti's neighbors suggested he and Wells planned the robbery together, and Pinetti killed himself when the plot failed. But friends of both men said Pinetti, who suffered from depression, more likely was driven to suicide by grief over Wells' death.

Originally published on September 2, 2003

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Recluse

2003-09-02 14:31 | User Profile

Originally posted by travis@Sep 2 2003, 05:57 * But blaming, cussing and hating them hasn't done us any good. It would be very useful to recruit some of them and have them recruit from within. After all, cops are always having their face slapped with reality and many may be on the verge of waking up.*

I agree. While the national police agencies are ADL owned and operated I think there are still a lot of good folks at state and local levels. Many are Christians and it wouldn't hurt to remind them that the ADL that's giving seminars on recognizing hate thought is the same ADL that's waging a war against Mel Gibson's Jesus film. Urban police depts. in my part of the country are under constant attack from black race hustlers so there's a lot of animosity there, and many of the White officers are fighting to get residency laws overturned so they can move away from negroes asap, so we have a lot of potential allies there and care should be taken not to alienate them unnecessarily.


Happy Hacker

2003-09-02 18:02 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Avalanche@Sep 2 2003, 13:21 * ** Geez guys -- I didn't see any of YOU offering to run out to the guy with your complete lack of explosives training and try to disarm a bomb without knowing anything ABOUT disarming bombs! **

I have two objections to your comment:

1) Police, firemen, etc. are often called heroes and given awards for heroism. Yet, most cops when faced with real danger, hide. Part of what I find offensive is the liberal use of the "hero" label. A hero would have at least looked at it to see what might be done.

2) The pigs didn't even take off the handcuffs and let the victim try to disarm the bomb. This I find to be inexcusable.

I don't think most bombs are like you find in the movies, rigged to blow with any tampering and only a super-duper expert can disarm them. In real life, disarming a bomb is usually as easy as pulling the fuse out (rather, the detonator wire). If the bomb was about to go off, there was nothing to lose with letting the guy pull on everything he could. Indeed, breaking any wire would probably have disarmed it.


MadScienceType

2003-09-02 18:09 | User Profile

What the #!%@ Are Cops Good For?

To ask the question is to answer it.

I still think overall it was disgusting to see a bunch of cops watching a handcuffed guy tick away the last seconds of his life with guns drawn. What were they covering him with guns for, in case he got up and got close enough to "endanger" them? I was thinking last night that if I were there, I would have at least cut the shirt open and see how sophisticated the device was and how much time the poor SOB had left. A risk? Yes, but I really couldn't sleep at night knowing I stood by and watched some hapless man get his head blown literally off while I did nothing.


Roy Batty

2003-09-02 19:06 | User Profile

Did the police department have a bomb squad? Were the officers waiting for the bomb squad? All the officers knew at the time was that there was a guy in front of them with a bomb strapped to his body. He claimed he had been forced into wearing it, committing a robbery, etc. But they couldn't know that for sure at the time. He could just decide to get up and charge at them when it was about time for the big finale. There isn't one of you hear that would just start fiddling with an explosive device if you hadn't had training in that area. Unless there are some OD members that actually haunt the left side of the bell curve.

I doubt 99% of the men who are cops are on power trips. I know quite a few, and most of them APPEAR to be quite the average joe in MOST respects. Yes, they have an "us vs them" mentality on many things, but that's because they deal with two legged buckets of sh*t all day long, and catch hell from the media, civic organizations, etc. Not to mention being called on to handle crappola that anyone with common sense would handle themselves.

It's easy to sit back and imagine oneself taking charge and squatting next to the hapless pizza man, "... let's see, the red wire or the blue wire?" but it isn't realistic.

The Columbine mess? I doubt the SWAT team members themselves didn't want to go in. BUT, the brass, the "politicians", ever mindful of lawsuits and the threat of even more crying wives and mothers on the news after they send a guy in who promptly has his brains blown out, probably kept the team at bay. The cops take orders from superiors who generally have the same mentality as the idiots in the mayor's chair, the governor's chair, the senator's seat ...

The focus should be on the person that strapped the bomb to the victim. Not on cops making sure they don't get blown up. Sorry, can't side with most of the posts on this one. Disarming bombs is very dangerous. Period. Second, most cops and firemen don't run from danger. They have ended being tools for ZOG in many cases, but I see very little evidence of cowardice. Cowardice is demonstrated by the white men on the street who make me sick when they won't smash some n*gger over the head who's cut in front of them at the 7-11. Those are cowards.


Leveller

2003-09-02 20:41 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Roy Batty@Sep 2 2003, 19:06 * ** Did the police department have a bomb squad? Were the officers waiting for the bomb squad? ... **

Roy, According to the news report I just saw, they were waiting for the bomb squad to arrive.


All Old Right

2003-09-02 20:51 | User Profile

*Originally posted by perun1201@Sep 2 2003, 06:40 * ** Watch Reno 911 on Comedy Central, its the only TV show that protrays cops as the incompetent idiots that they really are. :lol: **

They say all good comedy has an element of truth. I was curious how many were watching that show. Based on the ads and how many times they run it, I'd say it was popular.


Angler

2003-09-02 21:01 | User Profile

I suppose the figure of 99% was an exaggeration, at least as far as estimating the percentage of bullies in LE. But then look at other aspects of cop culture. How often do you hear about cops blowing the whistle on their "brother officers" for inappropriate or even felonious conduct? It's almost unheard of, and that's certainly not because cops don't commit crimes. It is SO easy for a cop to get away with a crime that the mere fact that good number of such incidents have been videotaped -- against nearly impossible odds -- implies that police crime is ubiquitous. Everything from beating handcuffed or compliant suspects to "testilying" in court (cops invented that term for perjury) is widespread. And while a lot of cops might be laidback and soft-spoken personally, even the "nice" ones almost always cover up for their "brother officers." To me, that makes them rat bastards that are almost as bad as the thugs they cover for.

Another serious beef I have with cops is that they tend to have an authoritarian mindset. Many will remain obedient to their masters even to the point of deliberately breaking their solemn oath to protect the US Constitution, the highest law of the land. Take a look at the survey at the following link:

[url=http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/rkba/police_survey.htm]http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/rkba/police_survey.htm[/url]

It seems that most police -- in that local survey, at least -- do indeed have sensible views about the weak link between crime and private ownership of guns. However, take a look at the tally of responses to questions 35-37. Although nearly 100% of those polled took an oath to support the US Constitution, and 85% understand that the US Constitution (and the Pennsylvania one as well) DOES protect the right of citizens to bear arms (see question 32c), about half of the cops in the survey expressed their willingness to participate in raids for the purpose of confiscating all private firearms if they were ordered to do so. Doing the math, this means that AT LEAST 35% of the cops surveyed are willing to knowingly and deliberately violate the Constitution they swore to protect! And then you have the even greater number of cops who violate the Constitution out of ignorance. They are not as culpable as the others, but they are working against freedom nonetheless.

If I'm not mistaken, this survey was done in a fairly conservative, rural area. Imagine if the LAPD or NYPD had been surveyed instead! Hell, the LAPD pigs are more than happy to violate the Constitution even without being told to do so.

To make a long story short, the police cannot be trusted. They are there to keep an eye on you and put you in prison if you do something that displeases them or their masters -- or maybe just to give their careers a boost. True, there are a few decent ones who give a crap about freedom and human dignity, but they seem to be in woefully short supply.


MadScienceType

2003-09-02 21:17 | User Profile

I guess I'm from the left side of the Bell curve then. ;) But then again, I've been known to rescue stray kitty cats from the street, so I'm a soft touch.

I agree that it's not real smart to be fiddling with HE if you don't know what you're doing, but I don't think the guy was waiting to take out a cop, since someone had to handcuff him in the first place, which would have afforded ample opportunity to "take a pig" with him.

I suppose it is a reaction to all the "officer safety" calls on one hand, yet the complaining about having to face danger for an ungrateful public on the other. Statistically, driving a cab or working graveyard shift at a Stop-N-Rob is a helluva lot more dangerous than policeman, but I don't hear sappy oratory about these folks selflessly taking a bullet so the public has a ride to the airport or 24-hour access to lottery tickets and lattes. Firemen have got cops beat in the heroism department, IMO, but until 9/11 never got a tenth the recognition.

This isn't to bash cops for the job that they do perform, but it's recognizing that they have authority over every Joe Citizen on the street and being human, they could abuse that power.

The focus should be on the person that strapped the bomb to the victim.

Agreed. This story has gotten weirder and weirder. Seems a co-worker of the bomb victim was found dead with no signs of a struggle. This one may never get figured out.


Hugh Lincoln

2003-09-02 21:26 | User Profile

Well, wait. Who put the damn bomb on this guy in the first place? 'Cause if it was HIM, I'm not feeling too sympathetic. Even if it wasn't, the bomb going off would kill anyone around. Why compound the death unless you were sure you could safely remove it? The cops obviously didn't know what the risks were.

I tend to agree that cops can be lazy, but look at what might make cops reluctant to be aggressive crime-fighters. New Yorkers know that the Street Crime Unit of the NYPD was full of guys who actually wanted to go out and bust criminals. Then, some of its members gunned down Amadou Diallo, that worthless African. So they disbanded the unit. Also, keep in mind that cops who arrest blacks and Hispanics are practically automatically subject to civil suit, civilian complaints that have to be reviewed, etc. Big pain. The message is basically that you will be PUNISHED for fighting crime, REWARDED for warming the inside of the squad car.


MadScienceType

2003-09-02 21:35 | User Profile

It's a mess for sure, just the way Jew likes it...

**The message is basically that you will be PUNISHED for fighting crime, REWARDED for warming the inside of the squad car. **

The Seattle Times had a story a few years ago about "depolicing" that quoted a cop with words to the effect that it was easier to sit under an overpass and do the crossword than write minorities speeding tickets and deal with the inevitable IA investigation for racsim. The story also quoted some cops as letting obviously drunk minorities go for the same reason. Probably one of the reasons that cops are so gung-ho for boot & shoot raids (besides the sheer thrill) is that it allows them to work out their frustrations on a ZOG-approved target, not that it makes the process any less reprehensible mind you.


Happy Hacker

2003-09-02 21:59 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Roy Batty@Sep 2 2003, 19:06 * ** He claimed he had been forced into wearing it, committing a robbery, etc. **

Considering it was a small bomb, on a timer, attached to the guy's neck with a steel collar and a combination lock it very much looks like it was designed to kill the guy rather than to kill other people. I'm sure the guy sounded very serious about his story.

If he was forced into it, then he must have been required to take the money someplace where the bomb would be removed. The police could even have let him go to where he was suppose to go and followed him.

If the guy had control of the bomb and was wanting to kill himself and the police, he would have detonated it when he was being cuffed and arrested.

Sorry, it looks like the cops acted as cowardly as they could have by not lifting a finger or trying anything to save the guy's life. At least if they stayed out of it, the guy would be alive today.


Roy Batty

2003-09-02 23:22 | User Profile

Originally posted by Angler@Sep 2 2003, 13:01 * *I suppose the figure of 99% was an exaggeration, at least as far as estimating the percentage of bullies in LE. But then look at other aspects of cop culture. How often do you hear about cops blowing the whistle on their "brother officers" for inappropriate or even felonious conduct? It's almost unheard of, and that's certainly not because cops don't commit crimes. It is SO easy for a cop to get away with a crime that the mere fact that good number of such incidents have been videotaped -- against nearly impossible odds -- implies that police crime is ubiquitous.

**

Yes, like I posted earlier, they do have an "us vs them mentality." Deservedly so, just watch the news.

Everything from beating handcuffed or compliant suspects to "testilying" in court (cops invented that term for perjury) is widespread. And while a lot of cops might be laidback and soft-spoken personally, even the "nice" ones almost always cover up for their "brother officers." To me, that makes them rat bastards that are almost as bad as the thugs they cover for.

Let's have them follow the rules to the "T" then. That way, all the boolies and bean dogs can get off, instead of just most of them. If only whites stuck up for each other the way you claim cops stick up for each other.

*Another serious beef I have with cops is that they tend to have an authoritarian mindset. ** That's probably about the only way to present yourself to most of the bottom of society. If you want to get them to follow orders. Sure, they begin talking to most people that way, but when you deal with sit all day long ...

about half of the cops in the survey expressed their willingness to participate in raids for the purpose of confiscating all private firearms if they were ordered to do so. Yes, many are blindly following the orders given by ZOG.

If I'm not mistaken, this survey was done in a fairly conservative, rural area. Imagine if the LAPD or NYPD had been surveyed instead! Hell, the LAPD pigs are more than happy to violate the Constitution even without being told to do so. If you live in LA you see (despite the media's efforts to cover up) that most serious problems with this city's department are courtesy black and brown cops. No exaggeration. In terms of raids, violating the constitution, etc. Nah. The force is too PC, especially with liberal East Coast transplant Bratton running the show. Sorry, but L.A. is a different planet compared to NY when it comes to policing. As Bratton has been finding out, to his dismay.

To make a long story short, the police cannot be trusted. They are there to keep an eye on you and put you in prison if you do something that displeases them or their masters -- or maybe just to give their careers a boost. True, there are a few decent ones who give a crap about freedom and human dignity, but they seem to be in woefully short supply. Part of this is true, but it comes off as written by a guy that has had many problems with the police. Have you? A lot of other guys come off the same way.

I still don't think the police were acting cowardly. Wait for the bomb squad to disarm the bomb. Don't walk up get your own head, or arms, or whatever blown off. That's stupidity.

BTW, I do know PO's as I said earlier. In the minority neighborhoods, they DO ignore some crimes and situations. Even if they see, they don't act on many of them unless they receive a call. They figure the residents hate them anyway, and don't appreciate any help. The residents themselves are the hypocrites, is the way these guys look at it. Oh well. Maybe having cop friends has me giving them more lattitude, but it also gives me some insight, because I listen to their stories.

What most people don't realize is how cynical police work makes these guys. All day long they deal with people lying to them, never mind everything else.


Angler

2003-09-03 04:16 | User Profile

Let's have them follow the rules to the "T" then. That way, all the boolies and bean dogs can get off, instead of just most of them. If only whites stuck up for each other the way you claim cops stick up for each other. If the police are allowed to bend the rules, then so are the rest of us. If the police are allowed to lie in court or take the law into their own hands, then so are the rest of us. If they don't have to follow the rules, then why should anyone else?

Besides, blacks would be a hell of a lot less likely to assault, rob, or murder whites if whites were allowed to carry guns to protect themselves. Of course, in many areas of the US it's a crime to carry a gun for protection, and of course most police will gladly enforce those heinous restrictions. Thanks to them, countless whites are sitting ducks for criminals as well as just plain unfree. (Personally, I don't give a crap about gun laws and carry a piece on me whenever it's convenient. My life is more important than dumbass politicians or cops.)

Then you have drug prohibition, which is just as much a cause of violent crime as alcohol prohibition was in the 20's. The more aggressive drug enforcement is, the higher drug prices become, and thus the more profitable it becomes to sell them. Of course, criminals want to maximize and protect those illegal profits, so they engage in violent crime. Meanwhile, junkies commit robberies to afford their addictions. I say legalize the sh!t and let those who want to hurt themselves do so. It's their right. But until that happens, drug enforcement will continue to cause the progressive ruin of this nation.

By the way, I do wish that whites would stick up for each other more, but NOT to the extent that the cops do. Why not? Well, cops tend to stand up for other cops even when those being supported are known to have done some really disgusting things. I have no desire to see my race stoop so low. Whites should stand behind other whites who've been wrongly victimized, but they should not sink into immorality by standing up for those who do evil. Honesty and a desire for justice are, in my opinion, among the most important traits that set apart the white race from the zhids.

Part of this is true, but it comes off as written by a guy that has had many problems with the police. Have you? A lot of other guys come off the same way. I might sound like someone who's just mad because he's been busted one too many times, but I've actually never even been arrested. Neither have I ever been directly victimized by the police in any substantial way. The same goes for my family as well. I have a problem with police only because of the reasons I mentioned above, not for any personal reasons. Naturally, my negative comments do not apply to those few officers who are faithful to the Constitution and don't abuse their authority.


Texas Dissident

2003-09-03 06:27 | User Profile

[img]http://www.copwatch.org/wtocopbiggun.jpg[/img]

Support your local po-leese!


W.R.I.T.O.S

2003-09-03 07:32 | User Profile

Pigs are no better or worse overall than the rest of Americans. They tend not to be very bright or free thinking. On the positive side they often show a lot of restraint when dealing with aggravating situations and people. Some of them are just collecting pay checks and don't give a damn and others are trying to be Dudley Do-Right. Usually they mellow out and improve with age. And yes, I have had negative interactions with police, many of which were highly comical.


Recluse

2003-09-03 11:27 | User Profile

Here's an article about former SFPD lieutenant Louis Calabro, president of European/American Issues Forum: http: //www.rickross.com/reference/hate_groups/hategroups340.html (Check your blood pressure before you read this outrageous pile of Judeo- :dung:) Calabro's an ex-cop who's been a major asset for the White resistance. I'd like to hear his take on this discussion, if anyone knows how to get in touch with him.


Bardamu

2003-09-03 13:00 | User Profile

It is easy to get in touch with Lou Calabro:

eaif@aol.com


Bardamu

2003-09-03 13:07 | User Profile

I don't think this pizza bomb thing is the right example of bad law enforcement. Columbine sure is. And Seattle during the Mardi Gras murders certainly is.


Recluse

2003-09-03 13:18 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Bardamu@Sep 3 2003, 07:00 * ** It is easy to get in touch with Lou Calabro:

eaif@aol.com **

I'm not sure he'd respond to an anonymous email request, I know I wouldn't. I should have said If anyone knows him.


Recluse

2003-09-03 13:43 | User Profile

Here's another good cop:

Sheriff tells Marshalls: Leave Klamath Falls Headgates


As of 9:30 PM PST the headgates that provide water to the drought stricken farms of the Klamath Basin are open and flowing!!! Currently there are 50-60 people gathered outside of the headgates standing vigil over the dozen farmers who now have blocked the entrance to the open gates. To ease their apprehension, they are laughing and singing christian songs.

The mood was much different several hours earlier when the local sheriff confronted the federal marshalls. First the local sheriff, politely requested the protesters to stand on city property that lies outside of the fence, and is off of federal land. Because the sheriff is actively supporting his constituents, he is receiving tremendous support from the people. After the protesters complied, he then told the U.S. Marshalls to leave. After a heated confrontation, the Marshalls left. As of this time, there is no law enforcement - state or federal - on the scene.

[url=http://www.restoringamerica.org/klamath_press_release.html]http://www.restoringamerica.org/klamath_pr...ss_release.html[/url]

I don't like everything the cops do, for example my wife's been stopped twice lately at DUI roadblocks and she doesn't drink and my son got a $50 ticket from a federal park policeman last year for not having a county sticker on his ATV, and nobody at the county seat even knew what the hell the sticker was. It's just something the feds are using to harass the locals. But this crap can all be stopped with a single election. The problem, as always, is the GD clueless lemmings who vote for the people who set the policies.


Bardamu

2003-09-04 01:25 | User Profile

Originally posted by Recluse@Sep 3 2003, 07:18 * I'm not sure he'd respond to an anonymous email request, I know I wouldn't. I should have said If anyone knows him.*

He would say the cops acted appropriately waiting for the bomb squad. Cops are civil servants. They are more interested in their benefits, gathering overtime, their pensions, boning what's her name, buying a new crew cab 4 wheel drive pickup, than they are risking their own lives saving some guy's ass who may very well be a "dirt ball" himself.