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Thread ID: 9391 | Posts: 42 | Started: 2003-08-29
2003-08-29 17:39 | User Profile
I'm just wondering why this kind of :dung: is even considered news.
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Ahh don't they look cute! So much for Brittney being [url=http://www.dotmusic.com/news/December2000/news16894.asp]a Christian saint![/url] :thd:
2003-08-29 17:55 | User Profile
What a pervert! Doesn't Ms. Spears know that Madonna is too old for her?
2003-08-29 18:09 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Happy Hacker@Aug 29 2003, 11:55 * ** What a pervert! Doesn't Ms. Spears know that Madonna is too old for her? **
Well maybe the Supreme Court ruled that this is legal as well! :lol:
2003-08-29 18:17 | User Profile
Those mikes can come handy, girls :lol:
2003-08-29 18:39 | User Profile
**I'm just wondering why this kind ofÃÂ :dung: is even considered news. **
Because "news" like this is a reflection of today's popular culture, whose legions of moral reprobates find stuff like this titallating.
Besides giving the gawkers thrills, the media also covers things like this to provoke reactions from the Religious Right so they can harass and mock them.
Then they can parade it in front of Ameriacn youth and secular Europeans to show how prudish and backwards some segments of American society are.
I've always maintained that attacking morally declining culture head-on or through the political process is futile. Until there's a change in the hearts of men, look for more of this sort of thing with brazen openness.
2003-08-29 18:44 | User Profile
What filthy harlots. They should be tarred + feather, and then caged.
2003-08-29 18:48 | User Profile
I hate to say this, but I can only dream of a certain body part of mine being involved in between that kiss.... :th:
-J
2003-08-29 18:52 | User Profile
*Originally posted by jay@Aug 29 2003, 12:48 * ** I hate to say this, but I can only dream of a certain body part of mine being involved in between that kiss.... :th:
-J **
Just be careful that you don't get infected with any STDs :lol:
2003-08-29 19:00 | User Profile
Originally posted by jay@Aug 29 2003, 18:48 * *I hate to say this, but I can only dream of a certain body part of mine being involved in between that kiss.... :th: **
Okay, you're not qu**r.
2003-08-29 19:07 | User Profile
Originally posted by Happy Hacker@Aug 29 2003, 13:00 * ** Okay, you're not qu*r. **
I believe the proper grammar is "you're not a qu**r" ;)
2003-08-29 19:14 | User Profile
Originally posted by Happy Hacker+Aug 29 2003, 13:00 -->
QUOTE (Happy Hacker @ Aug 29 2003, 13:00 ) <!--QuoteBegin-jay@Aug 29 2003, 18:48 * *I hate to say this, but I can only dream of a certain body part of mine being involved in between that kiss.... :th: ** Okay, you're not qu**r. **
:thd: did I ever imply I was....???
EDUMAKATEDMOFO
2003-08-29 19:52 | User Profile
Hmmm... We all know that society is going down the 7-gallon crapper....Is it just me, or is the very rate of acceleration of moral decay increasing?
Ragnar
2003-08-29 21:35 | User Profile
*Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Aug 29 2003, 20:13 * ** Perhaps Tex can create a "Trash Pop Culture Watch" subforum in "Culture War" and leave the "Arts" section unsullied. **
You got the "war" part right.
If Madonna & Brittany snogging in public ain't an act of war against normal sensibilities, what is? :lol:
Centinel
2003-08-29 21:39 | User Profile
Be honest ... how many of everyone's co-workers are drooling over this like horndog teenagers today?
This is probably the most sensational thing for the idiots who live their lives through pop culture decadence since that video of Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee made the rounds a few years back.
Recluse
2003-08-29 23:26 | User Profile
Geez Brittney, do you know where those lips have been!?!
[img]http://www.mugshots.net/dennis_rodman/dennis_rodman_1.jpg[/img]
I hate to get too crude here, because AY's point is a good one, but before I'd swap spit with Madonna I'd want to see some test results.
Hilaire Belloc
2003-08-29 23:38 | User Profile
**Hmmm... We all know that society is going down the 7-gallon crapper....Is it just me, or is the very rate of acceleration of moral decay increasing? **
It's not you. Come to where I live, it's your typical babylonian nightmare!
**Be honest ... how many of everyone's co-workers are drooling over this like horndog teenagers today? **
Yes many of my coworkers are drooling on this one. :drool: They think I'm retarded or something because I don't find it sexy to have two women kiss each other! :shock: I'm sorry I don't see what's so great about it!
M1488D
2003-08-30 00:01 | User Profile
What a better way to get nice, innocent young White girls into "clam-bumping", than by showing two of their biggest female idols making out?
Robbie
2003-08-30 00:44 | User Profile
I'm waiting for the TV moment when Justin Timberlake kisses Jason Mraz (or any other boy pop wonder).
Women engaging in homosexual behavior in public via television is accepted while men doing the same is taboo and automatically censored.
...while the masculists remain in the caves...
Centinel
2003-08-30 00:44 | User Profile
**What a better way to get nice, innocent young White girls into "clam-bumping", than by showing two of their biggest female idols making out? **
Yup. Today teenage girls are scorned by their peers for retaining their virginity. Soon they will be scorned for not being active bisexuals as well.
Hilaire Belloc
2003-08-30 00:47 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Robbie@Aug 29 2003, 18:44 * ** I'm waiting for the TV moment when Justin Timberlake kisses Jason Mraz (or any other boy pop wonder).
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Why the hell would you want to see that? If you really want to see that, read "Advocate" or something.
Hilaire Belloc
2003-08-30 00:50 | User Profile
**Yup. Today teenage girls are scorned by their peers for retaining their virginity. Soon they will be scorned for not being active bisexuals as well. **
Well the feminists keep indoctrinating them about how they should be "liberated" and such. Funny isn't it? A movement intended to promote respect for women has in fact lowered many peoples' respect for women(epsecially teenage girls). :thd:
W.R.I.T.O.S
2003-08-30 01:12 | User Profile
*Originally posted by M1488D@Aug 29 2003, 18:01 * ** What a better way to get nice, innocent young White girls into "clam-bumping", than by showing two of their biggest female idols making out? **
At this point, no further media encouragement is needed.
M1488D
2003-08-30 01:33 | User Profile
Rob, I feel it is exactly the opposite. "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy", is a good proof of this point. Try and speak out against homosexuals publicly, that is also another good point. There is nothing "taboo" about either form of homosexuality.
I think that females are more prone to "bi-sexuality" and it is therefore easier to find willing participants, who were once thought to be straight, in the female crowd as opposed to males.
Okiereddust
2003-08-30 04:14 | User Profile
Originally posted by M1488D@Aug 30 2003, 01:33 * *Try and speak out against homosexuals publicly, that is also another good point. There is nothing "taboo" about either form of homosexuality.
I think that females are more prone to "bi-sexuality" and it is therefore easier to find willing participants, who were once thought to be straight, in the female crowd as opposed to males.**
From a political point it is true that homosexuality is now protected by political correctness. But from a socio/psychological point of view in our society women's sexuality is still viewed differntly than mens. It is commonly accepted in among men that they find displays of women's homoeroticism arousing, while still viewing men's homoeroticism negatively. Such has always been known among sexologists. (For instance in the swinging culture). It is because the woman's body is still considered the focus of sexuality in our society.
In the old pagan world (Greeks/Romans) of course it was much different - even to some extent among Weimar Germany.
Bardamu
2003-08-30 04:27 | User Profile
Originally posted by Centinel@Aug 29 2003, 15:39 * *Be honest ... how many of everyone's co-workers are drooling over this like horndog teenagers today?ÃÂ
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Not my co-workers. So far as this kind of image goes they are far too jaded from hardcore pornography to notice.
Ragnar
2003-08-30 05:39 | User Profile
Rense added a fair editorial comment:
[img]http://www.rense.com/1.imagesE/britmodd2.jpg[/img]
Hilaire Belloc
2003-08-30 05:51 | User Profile
Well obviously the Anglican Church feels Brittney is a good role model for young women, they declared her a [url=http://www.dotmusic.com/news/December2000/news16894.asp]saint[/url] because they thought so(seriosuly I'm not making this up! read the article).
** [url=http://www.dotmusic.com/news/December2000/news16894.asp]http://www.dotmusic.com/news/December2000/...0/news16894.asp[/url]
US pop sensation Britney Spears has been hailed a saint by The Church of England because she is "a great ambassador for virginity".
According to a report in UK tabloid the 'Daily Star' Christian magazine 'Celebrate' has included sexy photographs of the singer and says: "Britney is very sexy but she has strong principles and religious views. **
Yeah last night we saw some of her "strong principles" and they weren't religious.
All I can say is that once you have a church that declares somebody like Brittney Spears a saint, than they're totally f*cked up. And recent events prove me right, since this same church voted in a Gay bishop. :thd:
Wayland
2003-08-30 06:55 | User Profile
In times past these two would have been recognized for what they are - trashy sex objects and nothing more.
But now, they're two people who've reached the highest status attainable in our culture - female celebrities; idolized, imitated, and fabulously rich, the pinnacle of western cultural achievement.
N.B. Forrest
2003-08-30 07:33 | User Profile
That loathsome, gap-toothed old j-zz rag Madonna is enough to make anyone puke. Joni Mitchell had her number when she said that she's a no-talent who became a "superstar" simply by hiring (more accurately: being hired by) the right people (filthy chew "music" execs). There was a poll taken of American men a while back asking if they would have sex with Madonna: something like 65% replied "not even if SHE asked".
So there's some sanity left in this country.
As for women and bisexuality, there was (yet another) poll that indicated that women fantasize about sex with other women at a far higher rate than men do about men, but that they were less likely to engage in it than the men, perhaps because of their fear of ruining their straight relationships.
Wayland
2003-08-30 07:49 | User Profile
Yes, Madonna is a skank. And her husband must be a dork to let her behave this way.
"Look kids, Mommy's tonguing Brittany Spears!"
il ragno
2003-08-30 10:16 | User Profile
I'm waiting for the TV moment when Justin Timberlake kisses Jason Mraz (or any other boy pop wonder).
Don't worry, it's -uhh- comin'. The only people who are given a Murray Rothstein pass from enforced celebration of sodomy 'n' Gomorrah are Negroes, who are allowed to still mimic traditional male/female gender roles.
Nobody ever takes DMX or Jay-Z to task for their homophobia...but Eminem is turned over a spit until he explains/recants/agrees to hug Elton John in public. Everybody else has got to knuckle under, but you'll never see a fag "entertainment reporter" whine petulantly about the violent homophobia of yard apes (except sotto-voce, in passing).
If I may jump to Jay's defense, there's not a thing wrong with wanting to fk Britney Spears. It's her entire raison d'etre, after all....she's been custom-engineered at the factory to make you want to jump her bones. You can't close that white-baby-demographic gap if you're going to feign horror at the only method for doing so.
So instead of gasping in horror at Britney & Madonna, I instead prefer to encourage homosexuality among the blacks and browns. Every homeboy that turns homoboy is one for our side. Then again, there's a reason that skeletal old guinea hag Madonna planted one on Britney rather than, say, Missy Elliot. As Steve Martin said in THE MAN WITH TWO BRAINS, "No...I couldn't f**k a gorilla!"
jay
2003-08-30 15:19 | User Profile
If I may jump to Jay's defense, there's not a thing wrong with wanting to fk Britney Spears. It's her entire raison d'etre, after all....she's been custom-engineered at the factory to make you want to jump her bones. You can't close that white-baby-demographic gap if you're going to feign horror at the only method for doing so. **
danka. I'd love to obliterate Spears, and I've got no qualms about saying so. Madonna is a sick b*tch tho, and I'd never touch her.
I think white males are constantly told "Be respectful! no means no! don't say those things!" while black guys are encouraged to be libido-pumping sex gods. And it's high time whites refuse to apologize for having the same thoughts, now let's start having more children. I'm doing my part 3 months after marriage.
-Jay
na Gaeil is gile
2003-08-30 15:39 | User Profile
Originally posted by jay@Aug 30 2003, 09:19 * And it's high time whites refuse to apologize for having the same thoughts, now let's start having more children. I'm doing my part 3 months after marriage.*
Lie back and think of America Jay :sm:
Robbie
2003-08-30 23:05 | User Profile
*Originally posted by M1488D@Aug 30 2003, 01:33 * ** Rob, I feel it is exactly the opposite. "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy", is a good proof of this point. **
I see that there are a lot of these shows on nowadays that are brining gay men to the forefront, such as "Boy Meets Boy" and "Queer Eye", but these shows are nothing but entertainment veichles exploiting the ubiquitous flamer, which is the only kind of gay man accepted in society, especially on television. I know that there are sex perceptions that reveal that the sexes are indeed different, even when dealing with sexuality.
I think that these shows couldn't have come out at a better time, considering how the emasculization of White men is no longer whispered about. The feminization of America is so explicit today, that to be a boy is like being some discarded newspaper while the girls are put on pedestals and exhalted in ways they don't even deserve. It's sickening. The "equal rights" we've been hearing about for decades is just a euphenism for White male genocide.
Bardamu
2003-08-31 03:54 | User Profile
Originally posted by Wayland@Aug 30 2003, 01:49 * *Yes, Madonna is a skank. And her husband must be a dork to let her behave this way.
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I am sure her husband is a completely whipped English sissy-boy like Tony Blair.
Texas Dissident
2003-08-31 07:06 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Bardamu@Aug 30 2003, 22:54 * ** I am sure her husband is a completely whipped English sissy-boy like Tony Blair. **
I thought her husband was jewish, hence her current reported training in kabbala.
Happy Hacker
2003-08-31 22:10 | User Profile
I just came across the video of the act where this kiss takes place.
Spears starts at the top of a giant wedding cake, dressed in a bridal gown and veil, singing Madonna's "Like a Virgin." Madonna rises out of the top of the giant cake, to the tune of "Here comes the Bride", wearing a top hat and singing another song (called Hollywood?). Madonna is the groom. Spears is the Bride.
Two other women, a brown woman in a bridal gown and a dog-ugly black woman (the later enters rapping a song called I Works It?), are another bride and groom. The four women freely exchange partners as they dance. Madonna does some groping and kisses the brown woman right after kissing Spears.
Other than the giant cake, there is a gazebo-like prop that is labled "Wedding Chapel."
As the skit ends, the women sing the line "We are bored with the concept of Right and Wrong." It doesn't sound like it's part of a song, just a political statement.
Hilaire Belloc
2003-08-31 22:31 | User Profile
*Originally posted by wintermute@Aug 31 2003, 16:00 * ** No, I think the husband is a good gentile. You don't have to be Jewish to study kabbala, but kabbala often leads, like other religious faiths, into undeserved and ill-advised worship of Judaism itself.
Like other part-time Kabbalists, Madonna now regards herself as being Jewish in some way, and it was reported recently that she took the name "Esther" as her "Hebrew name". She now sports a necklace where the letter "E" is spelled out in diamonds.
It's so tacky, that it does seem likely she is becoming a Jewess.
Wintermute **
Gee and a few years back she was trying to become a Hindu. :lol: Can even make up her mind of which religion to follow.
As the skit ends, the women sing the line "We are bored with the concept of Right and Wrong." It doesn't sound like it's part of a song, just a political statement.
That's what MTV is all about. :thd:
Franco
2003-09-01 00:08 | User Profile
Dave Sirulnick -- co-Executive Producer for the 2003 MTV Video Music Awards. Oy!
MTV is owned by Viacom, headed by the Jewish man Sumner Redstone (born Murray Rothstein). Oy!
Itz two oys for that one gentile kiss! Oy, oy! :mellow:
[edited for niceness]
Robbie
2003-09-01 00:16 | User Profile
Originally posted by wintermute@Aug 31 2003, 22:00 * ** > *I thought her husband was jewish, hence her current reported training in kabbala. **
No, I think the husband is a good gentile. You don't have to be Jewish to study kabbala, but kabbala often leads, like other religious faiths, into undeserved and ill-advised worship of Judaism itself.
Like other part-time Kabbalists, Madonna now regards herself as being Jewish in some way, and it was reported recently that she took the name "Esther" as her "Hebrew name". She now sports a necklace where the letter "E" is spelled out in diamonds.
It's so tacky, that it does seem likely she is becoming a Jewess.
Wintermute **
Madonna has always been in the comfy confines of the Chosen in her professional career, so studying Kaballah is pretty much a no-brainer. How she remained to hold on to some Catholic ideals for the long period of time she did while being in the spotlight is a mystery.
Hilaire Belloc
2003-09-01 00:31 | User Profile
Madonna has always been in the comfy confines of the Chosen in her professional career, so studying Kaballah is pretty much a no-brainer. How she remained to hold on to some Catholic ideals for the long period of time she did while being in the spotlight is a mystery.
I think whatever remained of her Catholic ideals went out the window with "Like a Little Prayer". I don't know of anyother Catholic(Roman or Byzantine) with morals that would dance in front of burning crosses or engage in a love affair with a saint.
Robbie
2003-09-01 02:49 | User Profile
*Originally posted by perun1201@Sep 1 2003, 00:31 * ** or engage in a love affair with a saint. **
A Negroid saint at that.