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Conservative [OP]

2003-08-28 07:01 | User Profile

Can science be considered a form of religion? Think about it, science is the religious belief that reality is based on what one can experience through empiricism, or through our 5 senses. On the other hand, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc. are religious beliefs that reality is not just based on empiricism or our senses, but also include things that cannot be observed through empiricism/senses, but rather through "blind faith" for lack of a better word. So, I would then have to say that I am indeed religious: I follow the religion of science.

So then, the question is, which one of these religions is the correct one? Well, personally, I need to see which one of these religions brings forth the most benefits. The religion of science provides the most benefits for me, while the other religions don't bring forth anything that pleases me. Praying does not work for me, nor do I see anything that makes me believe the non-sciences religions are valid. On the other hand, science makes cars run, cures disease, makes my computer work, etc. Science works for me, so its the religion of my choice.

Any thoughts?

Regards,

White Nationalism


Conservative

2003-08-28 07:07 | User Profile

I have just updated the above post, please read it again.

Thanks,

White Nationalist


triskelion

2003-08-28 07:35 | User Profile

Here we see Ares retract his previous claim that religiosity is genetic in origin. He did so because when I pressed him for the facts he claimed he had he looked like a baffoon and scientific pretender as he always does so he totally changes his position without stating he was wrong because he's dishonst and assumes that everyone here is as dim as he is. See: [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?showtopic=10292&hl=]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...topic=10292&hl=[/url] if you wish to see Ares flounder about in faux rationality and un arrented pretense.


Conservative

2003-08-28 07:49 | User Profile

Hello Triskelion,

Here we see Ares retract his previous claim that religiosity is genetic in origin.

Let me clarify. I read the research by Thomas J. Bouchard, Jr. and his colleagues David T. Lykken, Matthew McGue, Nancy L. Segal, and Auke Tellegen. They came to the conclusion that religiosity is at least partly heritable, based on twin studies. Something that is heritable means it has a genetic component by definition: genes are inherited.

Now, to integrate my philosophical thoughts: Lets say that genes actually code for two main categories of religions as I have described in my original post. By this, I mean that there may be genes that code for a propensity to support the religion of science which requires empiricism, and then their may be genes which code for the "blind faith" type of religion. So, if this is true, the above scientists would have to include this in their analysis.

Regards,

White Nationalist


Conservative

2003-08-28 08:10 | User Profile

Originally posted by wintermute@Aug 28 2003, 01:39 * ** He is showing the capacity to learn* **

Absolutely! Imagine how much we as humans would miss out on if we did not keep an open mind.

Regards,

White Nationalist


triskelion

2003-08-28 17:14 | User Profile

Absolutely! Imagine how much we as humans would miss out on if we did not keep an open mind.

Yes in deed! When Ares gets one i'll be delighted and amazed but i'll not hold my breath.

In any case, Ares claimed that he had studied the matter closely and knows a good deal about "religion genes" I ask him to provide the proof and methology and he did neither. Bottom line, his claim doesn't hold water and he is too dishonest to admit it. Case closed.

I'll let Ares get in the last word as I know he has to have it to keep his self image from flagging but as sure as the sun will rise next morning Ares will not admit he was wrong or back up his claim.


Paleoleftist

2003-08-28 19:49 | User Profile

*Originally posted by White Nationalist@Aug 28 2003, 01:01 * ** Can science be considered a form of religion? **

No.


Hilaire Belloc

2003-08-29 01:21 | User Profile

No science is not a religion. However, secularists and atheists have tried to used it as a weapon against religion.