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Frederick William I [OP]

2003-08-24 18:46 | User Profile

[dohtml]Treason Lobby Beware! Ann Coulter Takes Aim At Immigration<!--mstheme-->

                    <p><b>By <a href="mann/index.htm">
                            Juan Mann</a></b></p>


                    <p>The
                    <a href="http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=%22treason+lobby%22&sp-a=sp0a298a00&sp-advanced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-d=custom&sp-date-range=-1&sp-start-month=0&sp-start-day=0&sp-start-year=&sp-end-month=0&sp-end-day=0&sp-end-year=&sp-x=any&sp-c=25">
                    Treason Lobby</a> took a shot right in the nose from
                    <a href="http://www.anncoulter.org/default.htm">
                    Ann Coulter’s</a> recent devastating book, appropriately 
                    titled<i>
                    <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1400050308/vdare">
                    TREASON—Liberal treachery from the cold war to the war 
                    on terrorism</a>.</i></p>
                    <p>With that said though, the woman 
                    who is teaching the MTV generation about
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/francis/coulterkampf.htm">
                    Whittaker Chambers</a> and the
                    <a href="http://www.nsa.gov/docs/venona/monographs/monograph-1.html">
                    Venona project</a> has not yet begun to fight on the 
                    issue of immigration. But times are changing.</p>
                    <p>As we wait for her to join the fray 
                    along with
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/malkin/index.htm">
                    Michelle Malkin</a> and
                    <a href="http://www.eagleforum.org/topics/immigration/index.shtml">
                    Phyllis Schlafly</a>, her column released Wednesday may 
                    have given real immigration reformers a taste of things 
                    to come. For diehard Coulter fans, it’s a moment we’ve 
                    all been waiting for—her immigration “shot heard ‘round 
                    the world.”</p>
                    <p>Coulter’s August 20 column about 
                    the California recall election –
                    <a href="http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2003/082003p.htm">
                    “It Depends What The Meaning Of The Word &#39;Deficit&#39; Is”</a>—hits 
                    illegal immigration and its toxic fallout head on. She 
                    writes:</p>
                    <p style="margin-left:.5in"><b>
                    “Literally millions of 
                    low-income immigrants are pouring into California 
                    without job skills or even
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/latino_literacy.htm">
                    language skills</a>. If we were able to trick Mexico 
                    into taking California back, Los Angeles would have the 
                    second largest population of Mexicans in Mexico—only 
                    Mexico City would have more. While illegal immigrants 
                    generally
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/rolling_stones.htm">
                    work</a>, they don&#39;t contribute to the income or 
                    property tax base. Their
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/sailer/birth_rates.htm">
                    birth rates</a> are far higher than other groups, so 
                    they consume a large portion of the state&#39;s
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/health_care.htm">
                    health-care</a> and
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/misc/edwards_public_charge.htm">
                    welfare</a> systems. As the tax base floods out legally, 
                    the taxpayer-dependents flood in illegally.” </b>
                    </p>
                    <p>
                    Amen. But she’s not through yet.</p>
                    <p style="margin-left:.5in"><b>
                    “</b>[California governor Gray]<b> Davis responded to this crisis by 
                    virtually dismantling immigration enforcement in 
                    California. Law enforcement officials are prohibited 
                    from even asking people about their national origin. 
                    Davis fought
                    <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/07/30/immigration/">
                    Propositions 187</a> and 209 after the voters 
                    overwhelmingly approved them. Meanwhile, Arnold is the 
                    Republicans&#39; kind of immigrant: legal. But the press is 
                    crucifying Arnold for voting "yes" on Proposition 187 
                    back in 1994—along with 60 percent of his fellow 
                    Californians. Apparently, this makes him "out of the 
                    mainstream."
                    ”</b></p>
                    <p>Bravo&#33; It looks like Coulter is 
                    finally aiming her justly-feared
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/fulford/west_part2.htm">
                    high-heeled shoe</a> at the Hispandering, G.O.Pandering, 
                    “<a href="http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=%22there+shall+be+open+borders%22&sp-a=sp0a298a00&sp-advanced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-d=custom&sp-date-range=-1&sp-start-month=0&sp-start-day=0&sp-start-year=&sp-end-month=0&sp-end-day=0&sp-end-year=&sp">there 
                    shall be open-borders</a>,” illegal alien “rights” 
                    propaganda machine.</p>
                    <p>In her recent bestseller, <i>
                    TREASON</i>—page 271—Coulter turned her rhetorical .50 
                    caliber machine gun on the treasonous illegal 
                    immigration lobby, if only briefly. This one paragraph 
                    is the book’s only dead-on reference to illegal 
                    immigration.</p>
                    <p style="margin-left:.5in"><b>
                    “Foreigners were 
                    relentlessly staging raids on our border, which was 
                    defended by a
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/mann/fraud.htm">
                    hapless bunch of incompetents</a> at the Immigration and 
                    Naturalization Service. But the only complaints about 
                    the INS came from
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/francis/told_you_so.htm">
                    conservatives</a>. Liberals view their own
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/williamson/amazing_grit.htm">
                    noncompliance</a> with immigration laws as a sort of 
                    neighbor-friendly program. They think America is a 
                    department store, and that no one can be denied entry.”</b></p>
                    <p>She rounds out the paragraph on 
                    pages 271-272 in <i>TREASON</i> by blasting the 
                    hypocrisy of illegal alien
                    <a href="http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin091302.asp">
                    sanctuary </a>policies.</p>
                    <p style="margin-left:.5in"><b>
                    “Los Angeles
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/francis/enforce.htm">
                    police officers</a> are
                    <a href="http://www.mayorno.com/specialorder40.html">
                    expressly prohibited</a> from even questioning suspects, 
                    witnesses, or crime victims—anyone—about their 
                    immigration status. When he was the avenging law and 
                    order mayor of New York City,
                    <a href="http://www.fairus.org/html/7-8.htm">
                    Rudolph Giuliani</a> bragged about the city’s
                    <a href="http://archive.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/laws801/">
                    refusal to cooperate with the INS</a> in turning over 
                    illegal immigrants. His successor, Mayor Michael 
                    Bloomberg, believed the greatest threat to public safety 
                    in New York City is
                    <a href="http://www.ravnwood.com/archives/001326.shtml">
                    passive smoke</a>. Bloomberg would only crack down on
                    <a href="http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/30/125504.shtml">
                    illegal immigrants</a> if he caught them smoking.”</b></p>
                    <p>On the way to destroying the 
                    shibboleth of “<a href="http://www.vdare.com/sailer/bush_profiling.htm">racial 
                    profiling</a>” in <i>TREASON</i>, Coulter also mentions 
                    the 1975 U.S. Supreme Court case of <u>
                    <a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=422&invol=873">
                    U.S. v. Brignoni-Ponce</a></u>, dealing with roving 
                    Border Patrol stops near the Mexican border. She quotes 
                    the Supreme Court’s analysis that “[t]<b>he government 
                    has estimated that 85 percent of the aliens illegally in 
                    the country are from Mexico</b>.” She goes on:</p>
                    <p style="margin-left:.5in"><b>
                    “If
                    <a href="http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2002/011002.htm">
                    ethnic appearance</a> can be used as a factor by the 
                    police trying to stem the dire threat of one more 
                    Mexican raking leaves in Los Angeles, it is logical to 
                    conclude that
                    <a href="http://www.vdare.com/fulford/bush_arab.htm">
                    ethnic appearance</a> can also be used to counter the 
                    threat of thousands of Americans being killed in a 
                    terrorist attack.” </b></p>
                    <p>Her book, <i>TREASON</i> gave a 
                    glimmer of hope that Coulter is most definitely up to 
                    speed on the immigration issue, if only in a far corner 
                    of her radar screen. But as of her column on the 
                    California meltdown, it’s a whole new ballgame.</p>
                    <p>So if you’re out there somewhere, 
                    Ann, keep going on immigration and the National 
                    Question&#33; </p>
                    <p>America will be glad you did—and 
                    the Treason Lobby won’t know what hit them. </p>
                    <p>

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Bardamu

2003-08-24 19:06 | User Profile

[img]http://users.rcn.com/skutsch/anticoulter/images/gun.jpg[/img]


Recluse

2003-08-24 19:56 | User Profile

Well, Annie baby, the CEO of The Treason Lobby, and the person most able to do something about runaway immigration, is the head of your political party. Until you pubbies either replace Jorge Bush or force him to do his job this whining about immigration is just a lot of useless BS.


madrussian

2003-08-24 23:35 | User Profile

Only when liberals do it, it's called treason. When Jorge "dub ya" Bush does it, it's called "comparssionate conservatism". That's why a Republican president is even worse.


Franco

2003-08-25 00:06 | User Profile

As soon as Annie says the J-word, I'll support her... 'til then, nope... :)


Bardamu

2003-08-25 01:50 | User Profile

[img]http://www.hermes-press.com/coulter2.jpg[/img]


Frederick William I

2003-08-25 08:25 | User Profile

Did you have to put that picture up there Bardamu? :shock:


Drakmal

2003-08-26 04:35 | User Profile

I'm not a fan of Fraulein Coulter--she's more partisan than conservative really--but she is widely read, and on the singularly important issue of mexigration, we need all the allies we can get.


Walter Yannis

2003-08-29 16:26 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Bardamu@Aug 24 2003, 19:06 * ** [img]http://users.rcn.com/skutsch/anticoulter/images/gun.jpg[/img] **

Been there, done that.

Walter


Happy Hacker

2003-08-29 18:01 | User Profile

Ann Coulter is my favorite neocon. She has spunk and wit! And, I like blonds.

[img]http://anncoulter.org/images/webimages/annblack.jpg[/img]


Hilaire Belloc

2003-08-29 18:22 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Aug 29 2003, 10:26 * ** [img]http://users.rcn.com/skutsch/anticoulter/images/gun.jpg[/img] **

The important thing is whether or not she can hit anything. I say women and guns don't mix!

** Ann Coulter is my favorite neocon. She has spunk and wit! And, I like blonds.**

Personally I can't stand Ann. Even when I agree with her I still can't stand her. Plus, I prefer brunettes thank you very much! ;)


madrussian

2003-08-29 18:37 | User Profile

FReakers are in love with that bimbo.


iwannabeanarchy

2003-08-29 18:59 | User Profile

If Mad Russian doesn't like her, it's a clear sign she's on to something.

This idea that it is wrong to be a Republican if one can't 'control' the President is very foolish. Ann Coulter and the GOP will both outlast Jorge. The GOP is world better than the Democrats on race issues such as the welfare state (including health spending) and affirmative action, and it is only Bush's inability to move beyond his Texan experience (Texan Latinos often like Republican) to a real understanding of the national scene that is screwing up the party's immigration stance.


madrussian

2003-08-29 19:17 | User Profile

Vhat, a GOP fan? wannabe, you got bored at FReakerdom?


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-08-29 20:17 | User Profile

Ann Coulter is a clown. For some reason, her inane ramblings remind me of Zhrinovsky's tripe.


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-08-29 20:30 | User Profile

*Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Aug 29 2003, 14:26 * ** Not so. At least Zhirinovsky has entertainment value. Annie is just obnoxious and asinine without the benefit of laughs. **

I certainly find her ubberparanoid rantings about ubiquitous 'liberals', conspiring to destroy the bastion of conservatism (id est the GOP, at least according to her) to be the height of hilarity. Coulter is the quintessence of the FReaker, except with an IQ about a standard deviation higher.


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-08-29 20:40 | User Profile

(commenting on the title) the only problem is that Coulter refuses to criticize the biggest 'treason lobby' there is - the one controlling her beloved GOP.


Walter Yannis

2003-08-30 05:55 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Happy Hacker@Aug 29 2003, 18:01 * ** Ann Coulter is my favorite neocon. She has spunk and wit! And, I like blonds.

[img]http://anncoulter.org/images/webimages/annblack.jpg[/img] **

Very high babefactor here, guys. That counts. That counts alot.

Sure she's a GOP stooge, but she's such a lucious stooge that she gets a pass!

Ann Coulter for president!!!

Walter


Hilaire Belloc

2003-08-30 06:04 | User Profile

**Bimbo Annie is one of the most repellant people on the pseudo-right, in that everything that comes out of her trap is said to strike a pose and attract publicity, no more, no less. If Bimbo Annie were sincerely "anti-immigration," her first target would be none other than Jorge Bush. What we get instead is a lot of hyperbole about the (strictly Democratic, surprise, surprise) "treason lobby" without any regard to the fact that the GOP hacks she cheerleads for are just as bad on almost every count.

In other words, I much prefer an honest pro-immigration leftist to opportunistic idiots who mouth conservative-sounding rhetoric without the slightest sincerity or consistency. Annie's brand of "conservatism" is all about image, partisanship, and pose, not about ideological substance.

She and her onanistic FReeper fans deserve one another. Think of her as an anorexic Rush Limbaugh in drag. **

:lol: :lol: Keep it coming AntiYuppie! :th:

Ann Coulter for president!!!

What so we can have a nuclear war everytime she goes on one of her raging rants? Ann Coulter = :taz:


Okiereddust

2003-08-30 18:53 | User Profile

Originally posted by perun1201@Aug 30 2003, 06:04 * > *Bimbo Annie is one of the most repellant people on the pseudo-right, in that everything that comes out of her trap is said to strike a pose and attract publicity, no more, no less.....

She and her onanistic FReeper fans deserve one another. Think of her as an anorexic Rush Limbaugh in drag. **

:lol: :lol: Keep it coming AntiYuppie! :th:

**

Anorexic Rush Limbaugh in drag - that's a truly scary thought - scarier than the picture :lol:

Hey com'mom AY - at least she doesn't kiss Madonna on the mouth :lol:


Avalanche

2003-08-30 19:18 | User Profile

For a chunk of her book, let me refer y'all to this page:

[url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?showtopic=10180&hl=coulter]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...0180&hl=coulter[/url]


All Old Right

2003-09-03 18:27 | User Profile

I agree with post above, about coulter craving attention and striking a pose. Coulter strikes me as being a child that was used to hearing "isn't she cute", and still insists on that attention as an adult. She'll be disappointed when she loses her looks. She's a striking woman, although she claims to be a blond and I think it's out of a bottle. The thing about Coulter is that she's so smart, she has got to know her positions are molded for maximum marketability and not sincerity or consistency. She's a brilliant communicator.