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Hilaire Belloc [OP]

2003-08-19 23:54 | User Profile

Must be a slow news day or something.

** [url=http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=518&ncid=732&e=4&u=/ap/20030819/ap_on_re_eu/obit_brandes_brilleslijper]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...s_brilleslijper[/url]

Last Person to See Ann Frank Alive Dies

Tue Aug 19, 2:02 PM ET 

By ANTHONY DEUTSCH, Associated Press Writer

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - Jannie Brandes-Brilleslijper, the last person known to have seen Anne Frank alive and a member of the Nazi resistance in occupied Netherlands, has died. She was 86.

Brandes-Brilleslijper died of heart failure Friday in Amsterdam, Anne Frank House foundation spokeswoman Mariette Huisjes said Tuesday.

Brandes-Brilleslijper worked as a nurse in the Nazi camps where she provided clothing, medicine and food to fellow prisoners. She saw Anne Frank two or three days before the Jewish diarist died of typhus in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in the spring of 1945, at age 15.

She also told Otto Frank, Anne's father, of his daughter's death after the war.

"Anne was sick and hallucinating and had thrown away her clothes because she was afraid of lice. Ms. Brandes-Brilleslijper gave her clothes and some food," Huisjes said. "She mostly helped young people in the camps in those difficult times."

Brandes-Brilleslijper was in the wartime Jewish resistance, forging identification papers to help other Jews escape the Nazis, before she and Anne Frank were deported out of Amsterdam. They both survived stays in the Westerbork and Auschwitz camps.

More than 100,000 Jews — 70 percent of the Dutch Jewish community — were deported from the Netherlands to concentration camps. Most died in gas chambers, and were among the 6 million victims of Nazi genocide of European Jewry.

In a compilation of her writing published on her 70th birthday, Brandes-Brilleslijper described helping other Jews hide in Amsterdam, meeting Anne and her family.

She also wrote of the horror of arriving at the Birkenau death camp and the constant stench of burning bodies from the crematorium.

"We traveled on an ordinary train," she wrote. "The Frank family with two daughters was in the same train and we met them later.

"We were stripped in an icy room with the wind billowing through it. Five women under one trickle of water. No towels. Tattooed, Shaved ... we were totally confused and unable to understand anything," she wrote.

Later, she dreamed of her children and wrote about meeting her sister, Lientje, who was deported along with their entire family.

"Lientje and I were able to stay together, just like the sisters Anne and Margot Frank," she said.

Anne Frank was born in Frankfurt, Germany, in 1929 and fled to the Netherlands with her parents in 1933 to escape persecution under Adolf Hitler's National Socialist party.

Her diary, which describes her family's two years in an attic hideaway, is one of the world's most widely read books.

After the war, Brandes-Brilleslijper returned to the Dutch capital, where she had grown up with Jewish parents who ran a fish shop near Amsterdam's Jordaan district. She is survived by her two children.

A public burial will be held at the Zorgvliet cemetery outside Amsterdam on Thursday. **

I never understood why Ann Frank got so much attention. All she did was write some stupid diary, as if she was the only person who ever wrote a diary during WW2. For crying out loud!


Hilaire Belloc

2003-08-19 23:59 | User Profile

Jannie Brandes-Brilleslijper, the last person known to have seen Anne Frank alive and a member of the Nazi resistance in occupied Netherlands**, has died. She was 86. **

I never knew there was a Nazi resistance in occupied Netherlands during World War 2. I guess they must've been remants of Strasser's/Rohm's gang. Was there also a communist resistance in the Soviet Union during WW2? Damn those treasonous Troskyists! :lol:


Sertorius

2003-08-20 00:59 | User Profile

Perun,

Actually, there was. However, it was so infiltrated by the S.D. that it was ineffective.


Hilaire Belloc

2003-08-20 02:26 | User Profile

Perun,

Actually, there was. However, it was so infiltrated by the S.D. that it was ineffective.

Really? Why would they resist the Nazi occupation if they themselves were Nazis? Plus I doubt the lady who hide Ann Frank was part of this group. I think they meant she was part of the resistance to the Nazi occupation.

** They are behaving like someone just died who was the last to see Jesus. A lil jew-girl has become a diety. **

Exactly Leeland! Hell 20 million of my people were massacred by commisars, do we hear about some young Ukrainian girl's diary about having to hide from the commies? F**K NO! I just don't get why Ann Frank gets all the attention she does, gees was she the only person who wrote a diary during WW2 or something?


prozak

2003-08-20 19:03 | User Profile

The diary is propaganda. If it weren't for Judeo-Christian/liberal piety toward Jews, Anne Frank - an ugly, stupid little girl - would not have received so much coverage.


Fernando Wood

2003-08-25 02:45 | User Profile

**Documents on Anne Frank and her Diary

[url=http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/contro...rank/index.html]http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/contro...rank/index.html[/url] http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/controversies/AnneFrank/index.html

"While there is no longer any doubt that much of the manuscript, which is more of a novel than a personal diary, was written by one hand, possibly Anne's, other pages were determined by the German forensic laboratories in Wiesbaden in 1980 to have been written in ballpoint ink, which did not exist at the time of her tragic death. Her father Otto Frank played an obscure role in all this."
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Here's some more information on the late Mr. Frank, from Bradley Smith's website:

[url=http://www.breakhisbones.com/articles.htm]The "Hidden Life" of Anne Frank's father, Otto. It's one surprise after another.[/url]

I didn?t know that Anne Frank?s father, Otto, was a Nazi collaborator and war profiteer. Where have I been? I didn?t know that Otto manufactured and wholesaled materials to the German Army while hiding in his notorious ?annex? in Amsterdam. I didn?t know that he collaborated with the Dutch Nazis as well as with Germans. It?s just one bloody thing after another. This story was brought to my attention by Joe Orolin. Joe sends me news clippings from Pennsylvania papers and national media. A lot of the stories he sends I have already received via the Internet, but there are always others that I would never see because they originate locally, or they are distributed nationally but fall ?below the centerfold? of Internet distribution. One afternoon I received a clipping from Joe released on 27 July, written by Ray Locker of the Associated Press. The article was a review of The Hidden Life of Otto Frank by Carol Ann Lee, published by HarperCollins/William Morrow. This is how the surprising review kicked off. For a man forever tied to the Holocaust and the cause of world Jewry, Otto Frank-the father of Holocaust diarist Anne Frank-went through life carrying a sense of constant ambivalence. Now, with this probing and insightful book by Carol Ann Lee, we may know why. While it would be going too far to call Frank a ?collaborator? with the Nazi government that eventually sent him and his family to concentration camps, he nevertheless did business with the German army occupying the Netherlands. Frank also worked with Dutch sympathizers of Hitler?s Third Reich and traveled in circles that ultimately led to his family?s capture after almost three years in hiding in the annex above their Amsterdam business. These observations astounded me. I hadn?t even heard of this book. I did an Internet search and found that The Hidden Life of Otto Frank was published six months ago, in February. I searched for reviews of the book in The New York Times, Atlantic Monthly, and The Wall Street Journal. Major institutions that have forwarded the Anne Frank story for half a century. Nothing by the big boys. I did find three additional reviews of the book, all by small publications. I found that the book had been published in England in 2002-a full year earlier! I hadn?t heard a word about it. In America the press, the business, about Anne Frank never ends. Never. Now we have a dramatic book about Anne?s father by a respected writer, the book reveals very controversial information, and there is no interest in it. One wonders, why would that be? On the Internet I went to Amazon.com, ordered The Hidden Life and received it five days later. I read through it in one night in our bedroom, and during one afternoon at an outdoor café in Tijuana while my wife and a lady friend were shopping. Otto appears to have been a good and decent man caught up in matters that were beyond him, as was most everyone else in those years in that part of the world. I never thought much about Otto Frank. I never heard much about him. I knew more or less what most of us know. He left Amsterdam with his wife and two daughters under the supervision of the Germans, and when he returned to Amsterdam his wife and two daughters were dead. We?ve all lost family, many of us have half-lost dear family members, and I can imagine something of how Otto must have felt when Meip Geis first gave him Anne?s diary pages, scavenged from the floor of the annex after the family was taken away. Otto must have been near overcome with a tidal wave of memory, surprise, and then a kind of elation at finding that, at the very least, he had these pages, written in her own hand, while they were all living together. He had something of her. She wasn?t entirely gone. He had something. An earlier book by Carol Ann Lee, Roses From The Earth: The Biography of Anne Frank, was well received in Britain. Based on that work, she has a good deal to say in Otto?s story about how the ?Diary? was put together. She is quite open about how Anne was rewriting her diary, the problems with the different translations contracted for by Otto, Otto?s editing of the manuscripts, and so on. Essentially she supports the revisionist position, without saying so, codified in the 1970s and 80s, that the ?Diary? is a literary work based on diary entries, and edited by her father and others, not a ?diary.? Nothing wrong with that. Other than the fact that those fronting for the Holocaust Lobby lied about it for so many years. The primary work of Carol Ann Lee?s The Hidden Life of Otto Frank, is to find out who ?betrayed? the Frank?s hiding place and the Frank family to the Germans. For myself, it?s the least interesting part of the story. No accounting for taste. But along the way Ms. Lee documents the fascinating story of Otto Frank?s wartime collaboration with the Nazi regimes, both in Germany and the Netherlands. She writes: Otto Frank made a pact with the devil? Here?s what she?s referring to. Otto manufactured and wholesaled pectin and other products to the German army. Pectin was a preservative that could be put to many uses, depending upon the type of pectin it was. All pectin was useful for food production, but certain kids could be applied as a balm for wounds and as a thickener for raising blood volume in blood transfusions. Other types of pectin were used in the steel industry as a hardener and in the oil industry as an emulsifier. Therefore, it is possible that the Wehrmacht used the pectin they bought from Otto Frank?s company for the war industry ?. With regard to Otto producing and selling product to the German army, Lee writes The deliveries to the Wehrmacht (via brokers) ensured the survival of Otto?s business. More than 80 percent of Dutch firms delivered to the Wehrmacht during the war, and one can hardly be shocked by the statistics of the fact that Otto did the same. Meip Gies, the lady who collected Anne?s diary pages from the floor of the annex after the Germans took off the Franks, is quoted as saying: ?the circumstances of [Otto?s] company in wartime should be kept in mind. There was no choice-no delivery could mean the closing down of the company. Here is a ?revisionist? take on Otto Frank?s life in Amsterdam during WWII. Otto Frank ran a business during the war, in the ground floor of the ?annex? where he hid his family, that delivered goods to the German army. He made a profit doing it. He paid a Dutch Nazi to keep his business ?secret.? Otto then was a Jew, a Nazi collaborator, a war profiteer, and a good man with highly developed sensibilities. I would very much liked to have known him, to have been his friend, and to have done what I could to have saved his daughters from those who saw them as their enemy. I should add that it appears very likely indeed that Otto paid blackmail to the Dutch Nazi factotum, Tonny Ahlers, after the war as well as during it, to cover up Otto?s wartime collaboration with the Nazis. As a matter of fact it looks like Otto was still paying blackmail to Tonny Ahlers at the time of Otto?s death in 1980! In the first instance, what does all this mean to someone like me? The first thing it means is that collaborating with the Germans/Nazis was something very different than what the Holocaust Industry wants you to think, and very different from how the Office of Special Investigations use the word ?collaboration? as it goes about it?s work of running down old European men who ?collaborated? with the Germans during WWII. Collaboration was a norm, though admittedly not for everyone. In the Netherlands, for instance, only 80% of Dutch businessmen collaborated with the Nazis. In the camps nearly all Jews whom the Nazis chose to work for them themselves chose to collaborate with the Nazis. It was the norm. There were some who chose not to collaborate. Same as with the Dutch businessmen. And then we would want to ask how many Belgian companies helped the German war effort. How many French? Polish, Danish, Norwegian, Czechoslovakian? And how many of the businessmen in those countries were run by Jews? As to that: how many Jews served in the German army during the Hitlerian regime. How many Jews continued to run their businesses in Germany throughout the war? Were there any? Is anything known about this? Are their histories being covered up like Otto?s was covered up? On August 1st, 2003 a 79-year-old suspected former Nazi camp guard now living in Queens, Jakiw Palij, was stripped of his citizenship by a federal judge. Federal prosecutors did not accuse Palij of personally committing any atrocities. But Brooklyn U.S. Attorney Roslynn Mauskoph said Palij has blood on his hands. By guarding the prisoners held under inhumane conditions at Trawniki, Jakiw Palij prevented their escape and directly contributed to their eventual slaughter at the hands of the Nazis. Palij is 79 years old. In 1944, when he was ?collaborating? with the Germans by working as a perimeter guard at Trawniki, he must have been about 21. In 1944, when Otto Frank was helping feed and perhaps arm the German army, he was 55 years old. One would think that you are better equipped to judge the political and moral nature of the great events you are living through when you are 55 than when you are when you are 21. Maybe it is going to be argued by the ADL and the Industry in general that Otto, being a Jew, necessarily needed a few extra decades to grow a moral conscience. I don?t think that was it. When I was 21 years old I was with the Seventh Calvary in Korea. I was a young man who, as the song had it a few years ago, just wanted to have fun. I was a volunteer. I had no politics. I didn?t want to hurt anyone, but I would have done anything my superiors asked of me. As a matter of fact, that?s what I did do. Anything I was asked (ordered) to do. I can hardly imagine how a 21-year old Ukrainian or German or Dutch kid could have sorted on the ?moral? issues of WWII, and then acted upon them. Some did, to one extent or the other, but to judge them now, after sixty years have gone by, a lifetime, is an ugly, self-serving charade of self-promoting ?morality.? [First published in Smith's Report (print edition) in August 2003]