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Thread ID: 9105 | Posts: 30 | Started: 2003-08-17
2003-08-17 06:36 | User Profile
hi, i have seen in many conservative forums ,many white nationalist people hating jews.what could be the reason.i am curious about it.is it something to do with historical reasons like the death of jesus chirst or is it to do with economic and social reasons.
2003-08-17 06:51 | User Profile
*Originally posted by arya@Aug 17 2003, 00:36 * ** hi, i have seen in many conservative forums ,many white nationalist people hating jews.what could be the reason.i am curious about it.is it something to do with historical reasons like the death of jesus chirst or is it to do with economic and social reasons. **
The group evolutionary survival strategies that have been adopted by Jewish populations (including but not limited to radical in-group altruism) result in a distortion of the majority culture to the detriment of the host (majority) populations of nations in which Jews settle.
I assume that you have had very little contact with Jews during the course of your life...Am I correct in my assumption?
2003-08-17 07:09 | User Profile
I don't experience the emotion of hate, period. But Jews are doing everything that I see as unethical. For a good article on "unethical" Jewish behavior, see [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?showtopic=879]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...p?showtopic=879[/url]
Regards,
Ares
2003-08-17 07:29 | User Profile
Hate is too strong. Disdain is the word. Jews hate that even more than hate.
2003-08-17 08:57 | User Profile
Could it possibly be that jews have destroyed everything they have put their hands on!!!
2003-08-17 13:58 | User Profile
hi everyone.yes walter ur right.i did not have any contact with the jews till now.but i have a doubt.all the qualities which u have said about the jews is i suppose is common to all human races.what makes them special.especially in a white nationalist context.is it not true the jews are very hard working and intelligent.i heard they have contributed a lot especially to thr american nation like enstien,kissenger.correct me if i am wrong. thank u.
2003-08-17 13:58 | User Profile
*Originally posted by arya@Aug 17 2003, 00:36 * ** hi, i have seen in many conservative forums ,many white nationalist people hating jews.what could be the reason.i am curious about it.is it something to do with historical reasons like the death of jesus chirst or is it to do with economic and social reasons. **
I can tell by your use of the word "hate" that you are brainwashed. Everyone hates that which inverts the values for which they work. Jews represent destruction to other cultures; what's "hateful" about removing them?
2003-08-17 14:03 | User Profile
hi prozak.i should admit i really dont know about jews much.i did not understand what u have said.how did the jews destroy ur culture
2003-08-17 14:52 | User Profile
*Originally posted by arya@Aug 17 2003, 00:36 * ** hi, i have seen in many conservative forums ,many white nationalist people hating jews.what could be the reason.i am curious about it.is it something to do with historical reasons like the death of jesus chirst or is it to do with economic and social reasons. **
1.) Some of the biggest supporters of Communism happen to be Jewish people (especially the ones that migrated from Russia.) These Marxists go around and promote "we're all the same" and try to encourage the destruction of race through mixing. They also try to destroy religion, mainly Christianity. Communism is anti-religion.
2.) Zionism - The creation of the Jewish state (Israel) at the economic expense of the Gentiles (aka: White People). They erect Holocaust museums and constantly try to make everyone feel sorry for them. They have no sense of belonging to America; they only use America as host much like a parasite on a healthy animal sucking its life away.
2003-08-17 15:37 | User Profile
Hi arya,
Welcome to the start of your amazing education! Please spend some time reading through the (previous) pages on this forum -- there are lots and lots of very good and FACTUAL articles and discussions that will go a long way to answering your questions.
This is a topic that is very fraught with emotion -- we Americans have been very carefully and very deeply brainwashed that certain questions are unforgiveable and are actually the equivalent to building gas chambers (sic) -- when it must surely be the case, that ANY topic should be freely discussed, ANY questions should be asked and answered withOUT stigma to either asker or answerer.
THIS (one) topic is the one that has been "declared" (and enforced!!) as off limits! By whom? Why? Who benefits from preventing these sorts of discussions? Why is it okay to "revise" through research and reading original documentation the facts and figures of, say, the Soviet murder of 10s of millions of white Christians (or Chinese communists killing a million+ Cambodians), but it is ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN to even ASK about the correct and actual facts and figures of the so-called Holocaust? (And I mean that literally -- there a LOTS of people IN JAIL in Europe for asking these questions, or even for publishing someone ELSE asking these question, in the case of a publisher of a newspaper who was jailed (in Switzerland, was it?) for publishing an article, not even for writing it!? Who benefits from the laws making it illegal to ask about the so-called holocaust - or as we call it the Holyhoax or Holoco$t?)
Even the Yad Vashem - the JEWISH ISRAELI "holocaust studies" center has agreed that there was no "four million jews killed in Auschwitz" -- which HAS to mean that it was NOT "Six Million" jews "killed by Hitler" -- and yet this entirely logical corrollary to their admission is NEVER publicized, NEVER discussed, never advanced. The jews have even AGREED to the "revised" facts and figures -- and yet, have you EVER seen discussion of this on American (or European) TV?
How can this be?
And anyone asking these sorts of questions is demonized, harassed, and destroyed where possible. (Look into Ernst Zundel -- six months+ in solitary confinement in a Canadian jail -- AFTER being deported as an "illegal alien" DESPITE being married to an American. And it was "AMERICANS" who arrested and deported him -- funny thing though -- it was JEWISH Americans who arrested and deported him! Zundel has broken the rules -- HE asks these questions and so MUST be destroyed!)
So, start reading and start learning -- it's WELL worth it!
p.s. I don't HATE jews -- I was raised in NY, I grew up surrounded by and comfortable with jews. I am still uncomfortable with all that I have discovered, because it conflicts with my experiences with nice people. However, the point I always remind myself is this: ask ANY American jew if it is acceptable to him or her, if it is the best interests of OUR country, in the best interest of America and Americans, to DROP our support for Israel, to let Israel protect itself withOUT our arms and money, will they be willing to drop that support in arms and money? Or is their major loyalty TO israel? You will find, nearly uniformly, that even when it HARMS America -- their first loyalty is not to "OUR" country, but to THEIRS! Why is that okay? Why does that make it NOT OKAY for us, on OD, to say we want OUR country to come first, we want OUR country to count most, we don't CARE what happens to israel when support for israel is harming America?!
2003-08-17 15:40 | User Profile
Why do Jews hate white nationalists/extremists?
-Jay
2003-08-17 15:50 | User Profile
I don't hate jews, or anyone, and same goes for all the people/organizations I actively support. In point of fact, I think that the jews deserve a homeland just like any other people and I recall that within the former CCCP such a homeland was created (which should have had seld detemination but never did) although the name slips my mind presently.
What I do hate is multi-racialism as it is the root of societal decay and a breeding ground for hate and the rise of the anti-culture. Also deserving hate is having racial aliens, like the jews, controling the socializing institutions in our nations for the purpose of fostering our deomgraphic, cultural, spiritual and economic destruction. If you are interested in specifics I would be happy to recomend some stuff to read that is quite excellent.
2003-08-17 19:20 | User Profile
all the qualities which u have said about the jews is i suppose is common to all human races.what makes them special
You seem to imply that all ethnic groups possess group loyalty, concern for the well-being of the group, etc., as the Jews do. This is generally correct. The Jewish community, however, is "special" in several respects. Probably the most important way that the Jewish community is "special" or different is that Jews -- for thousands of years -- have chosen to live as a minority within another ethnic group's territory. Of course, this means the Jewish community is always outnumbered, and the only way to compete successfully in such a situation is to make sure that the surrounding ethnic group is not united against the muxh smaller Jewish community. The Jewish community tries to shape its environment (i.e., the surrounding society) to make it conducive to success of the Jewish group -- by attacking and undermining everything that helps to unite the surrounding population, everything that enables the surrounding population to function as cooperative, cohesive, and healthy community. This can be done through creation of class conflict (see Marxism), conflict between the sexes (see the Jewish role in feminism), attacks on the majority's religion, creation of a multiracial society so that the rest of society does not have a common genetic/evolutionary interest (see the Jewish role in bringing about massive non-white immigration to the US and other white countries), etc.
This constant effort to reshape their environment is what the Jewish community calls "tikkun olam" -- "repairing the world", from their perspective, destroying the surrounding society, from the perspective of the gentile population.
2003-08-17 20:04 | User Profile
Arya --
In answer to your question:
[url=http://cptwc.matriots.com/jews1.html]http://cptwc.matriots.com/jews1.html[/url]
2003-08-17 21:46 | User Profile
[SIZE=3]Lets look at how many Jews fought in Iraq - 50 max [/SIZE]
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Kids fighting and dying for this [color=purple]' Slithering draft dodging Garbage '[/color]
LONDON - The British Army has allowed its Jewish soldiers involved in the war in Iraq to erase mention of their religion on their dog-tags, fearing they would be executed in the event of falling captive.<[color=red] There are some 15 Jewish soldiers among the 45,000 British fighters currently in action in the U.S.-led campaign [/color]
Rabbi Maurice Kaprow, a chaplain on active duty with the Navy's Sixth Fleet, currently deployed to the Mediterranean, estimates that 1% of the Navy and 1.5% of the overall American armed forces is Jewish. With about a quarter million American troops now in the Gulf, that comes to between 2,500 and 3,500 Jewish personnel.
[B]Truth[ /B]
[color=red]There are 7,000 jews out of 2 mill in armed forces[/color] [COLOR=red]mostly officers doing intelligence work. Thatââ¬â¢s .32% not 1.5% as some Rabbi says.
[url=http://www.forward.com/issues]Stats[/url]
[url=https://www.patrick.af.mil/DEOMI/Observances%20&%20Demographics/Additional%20Resources/Religious%20Resources/acco87.htm]https://www.patrick.af.mil/DEOMI/Observance...rces/acco87.htm[/url]
[url=http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=275655&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y/2003/03.04.11/news6.html]http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/Sh...4.11/news6.html[/url]
2003-08-18 23:26 | User Profile
The Skunk (Posted on Aug 17 2003, 22:46) > [color=red]There are some 15 Jewish soldiers among the 45,000 British fighters currently in action in the U.S.-led campaign.[/color] Britain has a population approaching 60,000,000 with British Jews being some 300,000 of that number. Ergo, about 1 in 200 Britons is Jewish, and 0.5% of 45,000 is 225. If Jews were in battle in proportion to their numbers some 15 times as great as the 15 who were there would have been have been in combat.
Even in World War II the British died at a rate some 2 to 3 times of their Jews and purported fellow citizens. Things have not changed for the better. They shirk, evade and lie.
2003-08-18 23:43 | User Profile
Arya:
The respectable-sounding answer to your question is as follows:
Jews pursue policies and other social outcomes that, while benefitting their group, are detrimental to the stability interests of the Gentile majority. Examples include their efforts to pass the Immigration Act of 1965, which turned America from a 90-percent White nation to one that's headed for less than 50 percent White, intellectual movements like Freudianism that "pathologize" normal White behavior, their role in bringing about "civil rights" and school integration, and their quite glaring role in bringing the U.S. to war with Iraq. It's difficult to detect their influence because it's often done in the name of benefitting everyone. The fact that Jews are smart and hard-working only makes them that much more deadly to our race.
The on-the-street answer to your question is as follows:
Jews make trouble for Whites! We gotta stop 'em!
2003-08-19 00:26 | User Profile
*Originally posted by edward gibbon@Aug 18 2003, 16:26 * ** Britain has a population approaching 60,000,000 with British Jews being some 300,000 of that number. Ergo, about 1 in 200 Britons is Jewish, and 0.5% of 45,000 is 225. If Jews were in battle in proportion to their numbers some 15 times as great as the 15 who were there would have been have been in combat.
Even in World War II the British died at a rate some 2 to 3 times of their Jews and purported fellow citizens. Things have not changed for the better. They shirk, evade and lie. **
Generally, the less a "minority" feels in common with the host country, the less they participate in the functions such as serving in the Army. Interesting, given the thesis that American Jews have been integrating in the US. It seems the opposite is true, they become more and more obvious parasites and ethnic partisans.
2003-08-19 06:33 | User Profile
thank u.now i have better understanding of the the problem.but in the contemporary world who do u think r the greatest threat to western culture.jews or muslim,considering all demographical,cultural and political threat. thank u.
2003-08-19 07:35 | User Profile
Jews control the socializing institutions in the West which promote our destruction and they are also a major, if not the leading, force behind multi-racialism which is our physical destruction pure and simple. The Muslims would be far less a problem if the jew led multi-racialism had not imported them. The Arab would would not be willing to suffer and die to hurt the West if our nations were not led by shabbas goys and jews hell bent on destroying the Arab world. In the end, we should give the Arabs, and every other race, full freedom of self determination and not force our selves upon anyone. Of course we should demand the same as well as reclaiming our nations for our peoples.
2003-08-19 13:31 | User Profile
Arya, consider this:
IF there were no israel, and the Arabs were in the same control of the oil fields we so prize (and require), to whom would they sell their oil? (And you recognize, do you not, that the Arabs MUST sell their oil, because that's ALL they have to support their nations/tribes/peoples. They are NOT going to suddenly find fertile fields and manufacturing geniuses in their midst!)
The Arabs would have no reason to hate and fear us -- cause all we REALLY want is to buy their oil.
Now, add in our alien overlords (the jews) and their hostile, massively armed, actively genocidal to Arabs, and underhanded little country -- smack-dab in the CENTER of all those oil field countries. Add the massive and total support (arms and money-money-money) that AMERICA uses to keep that sh*tty-little-country going -- and how will those Arab countries feel? They STILL have to sell us their oil -- Europe and Japan are NOT enough to keep them in grain and Mercedes-Benzs -- and so they will sell to us and HATE US for supporting israel. WE are allowing the genocidal maniac in their midst to survive.
IF (alas, unfulfilled desires!) we were to DROP Israel, get out from under the destructive hold of the jews on our media, our govt, our country, our ARMY; then we would STOP doing what causes Arabs to hate us and desire to kill us, and they would STILL sell us the oil we need -- because THEY must sell it!
Our overlords have ensured that America ALWAYS does the thing that MOST damages our relations with the Arabs, sitting there on their oil fields that we so need. There are no eternal allies, just eternal interests (someone famous once said) and "WE" have sold out our American interests in the service of a country that is NOT an ally, but is a parasite -- and a parasite that is KILLING us!
The question is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS -- qui bono? Who benefits? Who is the recipient of whatever "good" result comes from an action? America is taking huge and varied actions -- and the benefit is NOT to America, but is to jews and that sh*tty little country! Most of the actions we are led to by our alien overlords are ACTUALLY detrimental to OUR country, OUR people, OUR race -- remember the Prime Minster of Israel who, when asked about the effect of the WTC bombing said, "it was good!" WHO was it good for? Not us!!
The Arabs/Muslims are NOT in control of this country (as are the jews); they would have no 'beef' with us strong enough to allow, support, and encourage terroristic acts if ONLY we were not supporting their (and OUR!) worst possible enemies! Sure some Muslims would still HATE America -- but not enough, and without the general passive and semi-active support of the REST of the Arab world, they would not be able to perform terroristic acts.
(For an vague analogy to demonstrate what I mean: America's NeoNazis and Klan could putatively be viewed as the fanatics for 'our side' -- and they do NOT have the general, passive support of the vast majority of people in America. The militant muslims DO have the general passive support of the majority of Arabs. Here in America, there is no sense of 'protection' -- if a Nazi or Klanner DOES something, the populace will turn him in, because the populace doesn't support them. If a MUSLIM does something, the majority of their populace would shield him -- because while they are not necessarily active supporters of the destruction of America, they are passive supporters, and so Muslims terrorists are able to do more and do worse!)
Keep reading, keep learning! It's the jews leading America to destruction -- everywhere you turn!
2003-08-22 15:06 | User Profile
thank u avalanche,ur argument makes sense.if the jews are so harmful,then why do they get so much support from main stream americans.if i am not wrong it has something to do with holocaust sympathy and also because of jewish influence.i was told that the greatest support for israel comes from the christian fundamentalists[some times more than american jews]in the US.what could be the reason.is it because jesus is a jew and israel is his homeland?or is it some thing else.
2003-08-22 15:47 | User Profile
*Originally posted by arya@Aug 22 2003, 09:06 * ** thank u avalanche,ur argument makes sense.if the jews are so harmful,then why do they get so much support from main stream americans. **
Jews dominate mass media. I am of the belief that long term exposure to mass media not only has a huge effect upon what people think...but it actually comes to effect how people are capable of thinking.
2003-08-22 16:55 | User Profile
Yet again, rban, in his urge to proselytize, piles mangled metaphor upon non sequitur in a misinformed effort to have us believe that one batch of darkies (Arabs) are Bad while another batch (Hindus) are Good.
He appears to conflate Muslim and Arab, clearly ignorant or unwilling to acknowledge that there are more 'Aryan' Muslims (using his taxonomy) than Arabs.
It matters little to clear thinking patriots of European stock whether the invaders are Semite, Malay, Esquimaux, Aztec or from the Punjab. We couldn't care less if you are Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Confucian or even Anglican. We don't want any of you in our living space. You have no value-add to offer. Please go away.
2003-08-22 17:33 | User Profile
*Originally posted by rban@Aug 22 2003, 09:55 * ** Wrong, wrong, and wrong again. Read some history. Let me guarantee you one thing: if Israel did not exist, if there was no such thing on the planet as a Jew, Muslims and Arabs would still hate & despise us, and try their best to annihilate us. Because we are different. Because we are free and democratic. Simply because we represent to them a way of life and influence which is incompatible with their insular, medieval and despotic kingdoms.
Before Israel even existed, Muslims were in constant conflict with Christians in Europe, with Hindus in India, with Buddhists, with everyone. When will people on this forum realize that Islam as a philosophy seeks to dominate and conquer and annihilate all other faiths and ways of life on the planet....it is simply impossible for them to peacefully live in their own countries and leave us be in ours. As long as anything different from Islam exists anywhere, it will be part of their goals to wage jihad and forcibly convert us. Read in their filthy Koran: Allah is supreme, all must submit to Allah, non believer/infidels must convert or die.
The problem with people on this board is they simply do not understand the true nature of Islam...otherwise they would not make statements such as 'gee, if only there were no Jews we would be good buddies with the Arabs'. BS. Muslims can never exist pecefully with anyone no matter what the circumstance. If we gave Muslims 99% of the wealth of the planet and kept 1% for ourselves, they would be waging war on us to recover that 1%. Therefore we must give them nothing. And no matter what our views of Israel or Jews, we can never for a moment allow even the tiniest iota of compromise with respect to Arabs..they would view that as weakness and intensify their attacks. Never give a centimeter or compromise even the tiniest bit with a Muslim. **
Spoken like a true Jew. Nobody here is holding up Muslim civilization as a bastion of virtue and high culture...you are engaging in a very feeble attempt at intellectual "bait and switch".
2003-08-22 17:36 | User Profile
Why are Jews dangerous? Well for starters, they are the Anti-Christ.
Aware Christians can clearly see the destructive nature of the Anti-Christ everyday in our culture, our schools, our communities, our nation.
Jews are the principal vehicle for communism in America. Jews are the seed of Satan, "The Lusts of their father they will do".
Jews have attained power in this country by employing lies, murder and deceit in this country. Jews have wrested control over our institutions of media, government, education, by employing the lie that they deserve SPECIAL status and a right to exist.
Jews have used the religious freedom in our country to openly reject Jesus Christ, therefore Jews are "protected" and since their views supercede Christian ideals, they are able to gain the upper hand in all affairs of judicial action and public government.
It is NOT a case of being smarter, just a case of favorable environment being EXPLOITED by a parasitic organism that makes the United States of America unhealthy for all.
The influence of the Jews and communism became very evident after the second world war. Jews manipulated negroes into becoming "victims", therefore Jews appeared as "heroes" in order to further the deception. It is a deception due to the fact that Jews stood for integration as long as it was Whites, White Christians, and Non-whites. Jews determined themselves exclusionary, above the law.
Jews use again the so called "right to exist" and their Anti-Christ religion to justify segragating themselves from racial integration. In Truth, they are God Damned Hypocrites.
That is why God no longer considers Jews as "CHOSEN" Isaiah 65:15
When Jews exercise this "right to exist" argument, they justify lawful racial segregation, whereas if White Christians exercise our right to exist, we are attacked by Jews and negroes and other non-whites.
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2003-08-22 21:40 | User Profile
**thank u avalanche,ur argument makes sense.if the jews are so harmful,then why do they get so much support from main stream americans.if i am not wrong it has something to do with holocaust sympathy and also because of jewish influence.i was told that the greatest support for israel comes from the christian fundamentalists[some times more than american jews]in the US.what could be the reason.is it because jesus is a jew and israel is his homeland?or is it some thing else. **
Fundamentalist Christians like Tom DeLay are supporters of Jewish Israel because they see it as part of the biblical prophecy that Christ's second coming will occur in Jerusalem. I'm not sure if it has to be Jews in control for the prophecy to work, but that could be part of it. Someone else might better address this point. Of course, Jewish Zionists conveniently forget that this scenario involves their conversion to Christianity, but for the time being, they won't look a gift horse in the mouth.
As for the rest, we've been taught that "the Holocaust" was the worst thing to ever happen. In truth, Jews were killed much like any disliked or disfavored group. But Jews are spectacular at working up the story, and they use it for maximum benefit.
2003-08-22 22:01 | User Profile
Jews bring this "hatred" down upon themselves. They are a parasitic, destructive force on every society that they are allowed to enter. What you have been told that White Nationalists believe is the "jewish conspiracy" isn't really a conspiracy at all - it is just jews being jews.
"Anti-Semitism is a disease. You catch it from jews" --Edgar Steele
2003-08-23 06:18 | User Profile
what if jews convert to chiristianity.does it change their behaviour?
2003-08-23 06:32 | User Profile
** Rumblestrip wrote:
Jews bring this "hatred" down upon themselves. They are a parasitic, destructive force on every society that they are allowed to enter. What you have been told that White Nationalists believe is the "jewish conspiracy" isn't really a conspiracy at all - it is just jews being jews. **
D-oh! Such anti-Sandwich-spread...
"Yes, Tex, I'll have a tuna-fish/Swiss on sourdough, hold the pickles..." :rolleyes: