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Thread ID: 9025 | Posts: 47 | Started: 2003-08-14
2003-08-14 06:17 | User Profile
We need to convince the White intellectual/financial/political/media elites to become White Nationalists/Paleo-Conservatives. These elites are the ones that have the power to influence the masses. Many elites are enthusiastically giving media/financial/political/academic power to Jews because they don't know about Jewish parasitism or the validity of Racialism. So, please look for elites in politics, the media, the financial world, and acadamia, and send them information on the validity of White Nationalism. You can send them links to Original Dissent forum or articles by Jared Taylor, Kevin MacDonald, Matt Nuenke, J. Philippe Rushton, and the like. Contact elites in local, state, national, and international media; contact elites in Wall Street and other financial areas; contact local, state, national, and international politicians; contact scientists, researchers, and professors in acadamia, as well as elites in the medical field, law, dentistry, engineering, and other high IQ areas. If the elites become united AGAINST the Jews, White Nationalism/Paleo-Conservatism will have a much better chance.
BUT, be sure NOT to promote anything that deals with National Socialism, the Ku Klux Klan, or the Skinhead movement; doing so will only ALIENATE the elites even FURTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regards,
Ares
2003-08-14 06:42 | User Profile
While we're at it, why don't we just cut to the source and ask the jews for help, huh?
2003-08-14 18:50 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Drakmal@Aug 14 2003, 00:42 * ** While we're at it, why don't we just cut to the source and ask the jews for help, huh? **
Hello Drakmal,
Please provide a rational response to my post.
Regards,
Ares
2003-08-14 19:05 | User Profile
My point, since you don't seem capable of deciphering the simplest of sarcasm, is that we have as much chance of convincing white elites to come over to our side as we have of convincing world jewry to do so, because they benefit from the current system and have about as much at stake as jewry.
Just about all past citizen revolts against oppressive and destructive government have been just that--revolts of the citizens, not of the elites. I see no reason this would change.
2003-08-14 22:23 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Drakmal@Aug 14 2003, 13:05 * ** Just about all past citizen revolts against oppressive and destructive government have been just that--revolts of the citizens, not of the elites. I see no reason this would change. **
Times are different now. First, the average White person does not have the IQ to differentiate between truth and lies. Second, the Jews now have the mass media to indoctrinate the whole world at the same time, and in a short time period. Third, Jews have devised very effective psychological techniques to indoctrinate most Whites. Forth, dysgenics has created Whites that are more religious, so they will be tricked into believing that if they want to go to Heaven, they must distroy themselves while working only for the interest of Jews.
Only the elites can save Whites. We already have a few elites: Kevin MacDonald, Pat Buchanan, Jared Taylor, J. Philippe Rushton, Luis Andrews, etc. But we need a lot more.
Regards,
Ares
2003-08-15 02:12 | User Profile
As is always the case with what Ares posts much is factually wrong and nothing in the way of a substantive alternative is offered.
He starts out saying ââ¬Åweââ¬Â need the elites which of course is once again making the false presumption that he is sympathetic to Eurocentric racialism when he is in fact not. Next, he mentions having them (the elites) being persuaded to become ââ¬ÅWhite Nationalism/Paleo-Conservatismââ¬Â when in point of fact almost all paleo-cons have zero interest in or are outright opposed to racialism on principle (rather then the silly manifestations it often takes in the USA) . He presumes without offering evidence that white elites support the destruction of my race because they donââ¬â¢t know about the jewish role in the destruction of the Occident which seems unlikely given that white elites are exposed to the same anti-Occidental media, Churches and education we all are prior to working with jews during their professional lives. Willful ignorance and cowardice is the problem rather then lack of knowledge.
Oddly enough, he suggests that we send them links to the pro jew AmRen and the pro-miscegenation Matt Nuenke which of course have nothing whatsoever to do white nationalism but rather a simple rejection of the present form of multi-racialism . The idea that we can simply contact elites via email or giving them a suggested reading list gets to one of cruxes of the problem with Ares, inexplicitly stated, notion of elites. By that I mean that elites are no more perceptive, moral or functionally more capable reasoning or acting upon reason then non elites. In my experience they crave social conformity, personal security and the comforts of lemminghood as much as anyone else. As they have a great stake in the preservation of the current order and are totally insulated from the downsides of multi-racialism elites will be craven conformists until the internal contradictions within the current order cause so much societal destruction that they will no longer be able ignore what happens to other 98% of their lansmen. Anyone interested in understanding that process in detail will have to read Mosca and Paretoââ¬â¢s studies of elite degeneration and renewal which I have mentioned here often in the past.
Of course it is fairly laughable to think that someone that pushes miscegenation and Star Trek derived techo-babble about aliens has anything practical to say about gaining popular support but I will briefly mention the notion that ââ¬ÅBUT, be sure NOT to promote anything that deals with National Socialism, the Ku Klux Klan, or the Skinhead movement; doing so will only ALIENATE the elites even FURTHERââ¬Â even if it is rather transparent. Certainly the Klan model has been a totally bust ever since end of the ââ¬Ë20s but almost no one advocates that model anyway so the point is mute. I have written an awful lot about skinheads and will maintain that the worthy remnant of that counter culture can be useful for pitching a positive racialism towards working and middle class kids under certain circumstances provided such efforts have decent leadership (which doesnââ¬â¢t exist in the states presently).
As to National Socialism it depends upon what you mean. Obviously, mimicking the Third Reich is a non starter as are the silly costume parades that seems to be ingrained in the American scene. I have spent a lot of time detailing the lessons of the NSDAP regime as well as stating why itââ¬â¢s wrong to view NS doctrine as being solely tied to that regime. The real problem with the reflective rejection of NS doctrine is that those doing it are dishonest faux white nationalists like Ares that promote the destruction of the Occident rather then attempting to find a modern expression of folkish politics and culture as genuine and thoughtful racialists do.
Ultimately, the economic crisis looming in the West is shrinking the middle class and relegating much of the working class to what the neo-Marxist call the ââ¬Ålumpen proletariatââ¬Â and this process will worsen along with globalism and the rise of cultural Bolshevism. The fact is that, by enlarge, the white elites are wed to the current order, are comfortable with it and will not challenge it as a result. The way forward is to seek out that small percentage of the population that is morally sound, open to rational arguments against national destruction and idealistic enough to undertake genuine activism. Those are people that will build racialist activist cadres and create a viable alternative to the current order. The appropriate use of such cadres means targeting all socio-economic classes with public policy prescriptions that address actually class derived needs and doing so means having a sound ideological basis to build upon and that means rejecting simple minded nostalgia as well as the racial destruction marketed as pseudo-scientific futurism by Ares.
Of course, making such an alternative a reality will only happen when a drastic systemic crisis occurs and then only if Eurocentrics have skilled leadership and an infrastructure run by sharp activists capable of taking advantage of the old orderââ¬â¢s crapulence.
2003-08-15 02:46 | User Profile
**Forth, dysgenics has created Whites that are more religious, so they will be tricked into believing that if they want to go to Heaven, they must distroy themselves while working only for the interest of Jews.
Only the elites can save Whites. We already have a few elites: Kevin MacDonald, Pat Buchanan, Jared Taylor, J. Philippe Rushton, Luis Andrews, etc. But we need a lot more.**
Being religious has nothing to with "working only for the interest of the Jews."
Not all Christians subscribe to dispensational theology, so please quit painting with a broad brush and characterizing them as such.
Of the "elites" you listed, Pat's traditional Catholicism refutes your barb.
2003-08-15 03:17 | User Profile
First, the average White person does not have the IQ to differentiate between truth and lies.
Lies! It's all about conditioning. White people in the past, who were not conditioned by mass media (or huge impersonal societies for that matter), had little trouble figuring out when someone was manipulating them for their own gain. Modern-day whites who, for one reason or another, break free from their conditioning, also develop the ability to tell the flour from the fertilizer.
I hope this erroneous impression of yours isn't part of the inspiration for your miscegenation campaign; that would be quite a shame.
2003-08-26 17:48 | User Profile
we have as much chance of convincing white elites to come over to our side as we have of convincing world jewry to do so
Actually, I'd say our chances with the latter are greater. They pay closer attention to this kind of stuff. Few white elites do.
2003-08-26 19:14 | User Profile
Hello Triskelion,
He presumes without offering evidence that white elites support the destruction of my race because they donââ¬â¢t know about the jewish role in the destruction of the Occident which seems unlikely given that white elites are exposed to the same anti-Occidental media, Churches and education we all are prior to working with jews during their professional lives.àWillful ignorance and cowardice is the problem rather then lack of knowledge.
Most White elites are unaware of Kevin MacDonald's research, or other racial scientists. If they were exposed to truth about how their anti-racist morality was actually created by Jews for the purpose of distroying the Occident out of racial hatred of Whites, then many would think differently.
But yes, your subjective term of "cowardness" partly explains it, or in more empirical terms, a lack of ethnocentrism causes the elites to not have a need to fight anti-racialism. But if these Whites had the same amount of ethnocentrism as Jews, they would be putting up a vicious fight.
he suggests that we send them links to the pro jew AmRen and the pro-miscegenation Matt Nuenke which of course have nothing whatsoever to do white nationalism
You mean, it has little to do with YOUR personal version of White Nationalism, the National Socialist one, which rejects science, mathematics, and any cultural aspect not approved by Adolf Hitler.
The idea that we can simply contact elites via email or giving them a suggested reading list
It is the most practical way to reach the elites. Can you suggest any more practical ways? I personally have reached hundreds of thousands of elites with via the internet and sent them intelligently written racialist material.
By that I mean that elites are no more perceptive, moral or functionally more capable reasoning or acting upon reason then non elites.
The elites, do their high IQs, are more capable of reason and acting upon reason, when compared to the average White. And by "moral," you mean anyone who supports your ideals are moral, while the rest are "immoral"? Morality is purely subjective. Just look at the history of Whites: each generation, what is considered "moral" changes. So, what you mean is that, the elites are no more likely to support a personal morality that differs from the average White. Yes, that is probably true, but since the elites are smarter, they can analyze data better and adjust morality to fit the data.
Of course it is fairly laughable to think that someone that pushes miscegenation and Star Trek derived techo-babble about aliens
Argument ad hominem. You don't seem capable of grasping the fact that using insults/name calling does not make your arguments any more valid. For example, if a Jew was to engage in a racial debate with J. Philippe Rushton, and Rushton points out the studies on racial IQ and personality differences, and the Jew responded, "You are wrong, you Neo-Nazi redneck sister-humping White-trash inbred retarded moron," this not make the Jew's argument any more valid.
So, the basic point is that the elites have the most influence on the public, so to change the opinions of the public, we need to change the opinions of the elites who control them. Makes sense?
Regards,
White Nationalist
2003-08-26 19:29 | User Profile
It's all about conditioning.
Yes, indoctrination also plays a part. But, it is also dysgenics, see [url=http://www.eugenics.net/papers/lynnrev.html]http://www.eugenics.net/papers/lynnrev.html[/url] And finally, Whites naturally don't have the personality or intellect to see the Jewish manipulation.
In fact, if you look at the history of the White race, its the same thing: Jews controlling the White race. Yes, sometimes Whites whould then tell the Jews after finallly figuring it out: "Hey, you are not being nice, please integrate into our race so we will all be more happy." But, Whites don't have what it takes to permanently take care of the Jewish problem. History kept on repeating itself: Jews controlling Whites, without Whites really caring too much. Even Hitler didn't even do that much, he didn't even carry out a Holocaust, he just made plans with a Zionist leader to send the Jews to Israel: Whites don't have it in them to take a strong stance against "The Chosen."
And then history repeated itself again in Russia, where Jewish Bolshevics killed more than 30 million White Christians. History will continue to repeat itself, because Whites are "genetic doormatts" for the Jews, and always will be. This is why I want to ALTER the very genes which make Whites "doormatts."
Regards,
White Nationalist
2003-08-26 19:35 | User Profile
Not all Christians subscribe to dispensational theology, so please quit painting with a broad brush and characterizing them as such.
You are right, not all Christians, but religion has been serving as a useful tool to trick Whites into thinking God wants them to support Jews above all else.
Regards,
White Nationalist
2003-08-26 20:42 | User Profile
It will not be possible to convince white gentiles elites to unite 'against' the Jews. Nor would this be an acceptable course. We can only convince some elites of the need to criticize harmful and unfair Jewish influence in the media and academia. Thus I think White Nationalist/Ares is on to something, but needs to tone down the anti-Semitism a notch, and set some more limited goals.
Also, it will be possible to get some Jews--particularly younger females--to recognize some of the unfairness of Jewish activity in the world, and to feel guility about it. Some of these individuals will have 'elite' status, and many more will be future elites.
2003-08-26 20:48 | User Profile
I'll note that "iwannabeanarchy" is the one ridiculing those who are afraid of the "racist" label, and is incidentallly the one throwing the "anti-Semite" (note the capital "S") label. The last thing whites need is to listen to philo-semites/zhids. If anything, the problem has been not enough of "anti-Semitism" and not the excess of it.
I'll postulate that the more "anti-Semitism", the better. For "non-Semites".
2003-08-26 21:40 | User Profile
*Originally posted by madrussian@Aug 26 2003, 14:48 * ** I'll note that "iwannabeanarchy" is the one ridiculing those who are afraid of the "racist" label, and is incidentallly the one throwing the "anti-Semite" (note the capital "S") label. The last thing whites need is to listen to philo-semites/zhids. If anything, the problem has been not enough of "anti-Semitism" and not the excess of it.
I'll postulate that the more "anti-Semitism", the better. For "non-Semites". **
I think what he meant was that there are individual Jews who are not part of "Organized Jewry" and should not be included in the "anti-Semitism." Perhaps.
Regards,
White Nationalism
2003-08-26 22:46 | User Profile
'Racism' is a lot vaguer than 'anti-Semitism.' Anti-Semitism does, at the least, mean something involving a negative attitude toward Jews. (In contrast, 'racism' cannot be said to definetly mean anything besides having improper beliefs about race.)
Thus what I was suggesting was that a more limited critique of international Jewry is necessary, rather united front 'against' them. For one, think any uniting against Jews is going to end up in un-acceptable killing. More importantly, in the sense of being a more realistic concern, I do not think most elites will buy discourse that completely excludes Jews from proper civic participation.
It needs to be recognized that Jews have their own legititimate interests, such as avoiding physical attack or the destruction of Israel, and legitimate ways of pursuing those interests, such as a vastly reduced but still existing role in public debate. There are some Jews who would be willing to sign on for this; more importantly, Gentiles will recognize that it is at least possible for Jews to rationally accept this reduced, but still existing place in the Western world.
The 'kill them all' approach is evil, insane, and simply a neo-Nazi (et al) attempt at ghettozing white nationalist discourse. Neo-Nazi's, in effect, work for the JDL.
2003-08-26 23:03 | User Profile
I'll also note that "iwannabeanarchy" parrots just about any rationalization a zhid can come up with when suggesting how bad "anti-Semitism" is and how it should be avoided at all costs: because it's just a hatred of Jews, because "anti-Semites" are neo-Nazis, because "anti-Semites" want to kill the Jews, because it will cause another "holocaust", and how having any trace of "anti-Semitism" will preclude any success etc. etc. All falsehoods debunked many times over.
If it walks and talks like a duck... it's a zhid.
2003-08-26 23:36 | User Profile
I suggest 'how bad' anti-Semitism is? Only if you identify anti-Semitism with Nazism.
In any case, thanks for pointing out what a succesful combater of neo-Nazi ideology I am.
(Also, I just want to repeat that Nazis wanted Eastern Europe for Lebensraum, and that their more desparate acts of violence were ultimately a response to Russian inability to maintain their nation against communist and Jewish forces.)
2003-08-26 23:44 | User Profile
** Most White elites are unaware of Kevin MacDonald's research, or other racial scientists. If they were exposed to truth about how their anti-racist morality was actually created by Jews for the purpose of distroying the Occident out of racial hatred of Whites, then many would think differently. **
Most are unaware of Kevin MacDonald's work, and other racial scientists, and wish to stay that way which I know from personal experience as well as the experience of MacDonald with whom I have spoken on the issue and a great many others as well. They do so, in my estimation, for the reasons I detailed before. I note that you provide no evidence whatsoever to the contrary so I disregard your opinion on the matter as a result.
** But yes, your subjective term of "cowardness" partly explains it, The term is often an accurate one which is why I use it. **
** or in more empirical terms... **
** Ares doesn't know what the word means as he has yet to properly use it and I note accordingly. **
** .... a lack of ethnocentrism causes the elites to not have a need to fight anti-racialism. **
I pointed out that the elites actively back Occidental destruction because they benefit from it. Of course given that jewry has a massive influence upon all socializing institutions in the Occidental world it is no surprise that the elites mirror other classes of Occidentals in that they do not have any sense of ethnocentrism. I note that in no way did Ares attempt to contradict any of the contentions that I made because he knows as well as I that he can't. I also note that Ares idea of ethnocentrism for Europeans is miscegenating our selves out of existence which is a position exactly the same in consequence as promote by all proponents of multi-racialism which is what Ares adheres to rather then any form of white nationalism. But if these Whites had the same amount of ethnocentrism as Jews, they would be putting up a vicious fight.
** Here Ares assumes that we have all forgotten the fact that he promotes the physical destruction of the Occident which in fact shows that hopes to encourage anything but ethnocentrism within Occidentals. **
** You mean, it has little to do with YOUR personal version of White Nationalism.. **
**Wrong. The people that you promote do not consider themselves White Nationalists but they do promote the physical destruction of my race. **
** .. the National Socialist one... **
Here Ares demonstrates that he is incapable of reading and grossly dishonest. My ideology is not shaped by Hitler but rather from a very wide range of currents of thought which he has consistently failed to note because he is a troll lacking the mental capabilities to actually consider what I have said.
** ...which rejects science, mathematics, and any cultural aspect not approved by Adolf Hitler. **
Here Ares persists in lying about my views because he is morally bankrupt and too mentally feeble to do other wise. The last time he attempted this bit of blatant lying I note that he made zero effort to back up his claims I know that will make no such attempt now in an attempt to save himself embarrassment. Rather, he will have a three word Latin term meant to describe a specific logical fallacy which he will use in correctly and make zero attempt to justify for simple reason that his posts are as vacuous as they are ubiquitous on this forum.
** It is the most practical way to reach the elites.**
You provide zero support for this statement so I disregard it. If we assume for the sake of argument that Ares position is factually correct we come to the reality that simply can't be denied that promoting organizations that promote miscegenation which is not the encouragement of ethnocentrism but Occidental destruction.
** Can you suggest any more practical ways? **
Yes. The promotion of sane, positive racialism via populist and nationalist parties, publications and public activism which prove that racialism is valid and practical. I have also built schools and businesses which promote a positive, life affirming and practical racialism free from hatred and have been elected to public office on occasion and helped direct the campaigns of others with success.
** I personally have reached hundreds of thousands of elites with via the internet and sent them intelligently written racialist material. **
What support do you have that you have reached hundreds of thousands of elites? Seeing that you only promote material that lends to the physical destruction of my race or futuristic techno-babble it is clear that your not promoting white racialism of any form In any case, how is one to judge the claim that your efforts have had any results whatsoever when you provide zero indication of such.
** The elites, do their high IQs, are more capable of reason and acting upon reason, when compared to the average White. **
I will agree about them having higher IQs but you provide no evidence for your other claims so why should I take them seriously? Then again, given that it is much easier and more socially acceptable to back the current order until it faces a systemic crisis it seems that the logical, self interested thing to do is to back the jew establishment rather then resist it. In either case you argument is hollow and what you promote is not white nationalism on any form.
** And by "moral," you mean anyone who supports your ideals are moral, while the rest are "immoral"? **
Of course not. I never said such a thing and I in fact spend a great deal of time working with people that don't share my ideological aims.
** Morality is purely subjective. **
I judge a moral on the basis of what it does to advance my people. You promote the destruction of the Occident which you pretend has some scientific basis when in fact most of what you promote is sci-fi silliness and conjecture with no empirical content at all for the simple reason that have said nothing which indicates an understanding of science or empiricism. What you promote is in fact a vision based upon a morality that you have not explicitly stated and I doubt you even recognize.
** Just look at the history of Whites: each generation, what is considered "moral" changes. So, what you mean is that, the elites are no more likely to support a personal morality that differs from the average White. **
The same observation could be made about any other race so your statement again demostrates a lack of understanding about debate and logic inspite of your constant misuse of formal debate terms used in the the study of logic.
Again, the basis for my judgements of morality is what preserves and advances Europa. Your notions stem from futurist dreams of things with no bearing in reality.
** Yes, that is probably true, but since the elites are smarter, they can analyze data better and adjust morality to fit the data. **
Again, you make assumptions based upon IQ that simply are not warranted. You then ignore the reality of why supporting the current order is within the self interest of the ruling class.
**Argument ad hominem.
You don't seem capable of grasping the fact that using insults/name calling does not make your arguments any more valid. **
You're a pretentious ass that doesn't understand the terms you use. When you blather about endlessly about "why can't Europeans be like Data on Star Trek" or what "trans-human" technology aliens may have or your desire to be abducted by aliens I come to the sensible conclusion that you're a mental cripple with serious problems facing reality. As a result, I don't take you seriously. That you confuse your pseudo - scientific dribble as worth while simply demonstrates that you deserve to be ridiculed every bit as much as the crazy woman in the park with the tin foil cap that talks about how we should all aspire to be like your favorite Star Trek character Data.
** For example, if a Jew was to engage in a racial debate with J. Philippe Rushton, and Rushton points out the studies on racial IQ and personality differences, and the Jew responded, "You are wrong, you Neo-Nazi redneck sister-humping White-trash inbred retarded moron," this not make the Jew's argument any more valid. **
True enough. Of course Rushton is a scientist that does understand rational debate and science while you think that "alien trans-human technology" is an empirical matter rather then the mumblings of a crank which they obviously are.
** So, the basic point is that the elites have the most influence on the public, so to change the opinions of the public, we need to change the opinions of the elites who control them. Makes sense? **
The basic points are: 1) Your assumptions about elites are mostly unfounded as detailed earlier. 2) Elites have lots of rational reasons for supporting the established order and none to oppose it. 3) what you promote is no way, shape or form white racialism 4) Your methods, assuming that they are actually something you do at level you claim yet give no support for thinking as much, are totally unproven to do anything to elite opinion.
** Regards,
White Nationalist **
You are not a White Nationalist of any form and your dishonest portrayal of yourself as such is simply another reason why Ares is deserving nothing but scorn and contempt.
2003-08-27 02:26 | User Profile
Elites have a lot of reasons for supporting the current regime, but also many for opposing it. For example, elites must recognize that they are mortal, and that much of who they are can only be continued through children or other relatives in future generations. Supporting policies that lead to the destruction of future relatives is, on my view, not rational; it is also not rational in terms of the overall set of beliefs that most elites have.
Elites can be reached and swayed. Indeed, they must be, even as more populist approaches are also pursued. Ares various foolish babblings about white-Asian interbreeding are irrelevant to this issue.
Elites are less white nationalist because they have more contact with leftist and Jewish power structures that enforce political correct belief, and are more dependent on appearing to conform to such belief. But, in the case of many elites, their commitment to Judea and the mezzo race is in the end quite limited. It is more a question of continually keeping up appearances, such that one confuses appearance for reality.
2003-08-27 02:57 | User Profile
**I think what he meant was that there are individual Jews who are not part of "Organized Jewry" and should not be included in the "anti-Semitism." **
A Jew is by definition part of organized Jewry.
2003-08-27 03:04 | User Profile
Elites have a lot of reasons for supporting the current regime, but also many for opposing it. For example, elites must recognize that they are mortal, and that much of who they are can only be continued through children or other relatives in future generations. Supporting policies that lead to the destruction of future relatives is, on my view, not rational; it is also not rational in terms of the overall set of beliefs that most elites have. No, it's not rational, but neither is destroying current relatives, which they readily do. Still, some appeal to the elites is necessary, and if this works in practice (not in theory), please let us know.
2003-08-27 07:42 | User Profile
Hello Triskelion,
**Wrong.ÃÂ The people that you promote do not consider themselves White Nationalists but they do promote the physical destruction of my race. **
Matt Nuenke and Jared Taylor say they are White Nationalists.
**Here Ares demonstrates that he is incapable of reading **
You are a degenerate Neo-Nazi loser.
he is a troll
You are a low IQ redneck with the cultural enrichment of an invalid.
**he is morally bankrupt and too mentally feeble **
Your mother has sex with goats.
I judge a moral on the basis of what it does to advance my people.
Okey, as long as you acknowledge that morality is subjective, and that you personally define morality as those actions which support National Socialism.
most of what you promote is sci-fi silliness
Most of what you support is Neo-Nazi skinhead thuggery and idiocy. You are the intellectual equivalent of a chimp.
You're a pretentious ass
You're a fag.
When you blather
While you blather on about your idiotic Adolf Hitler fantasies of creating a nation of shaved headed and swastika tatooed inbreds, I will be grounded in reality.
I come to the sensible conclusion that you're a mental cripple
I come to the conclusion that your parents are brother and sister, which explains your fetish for Swastikas, Shaved heads, tatoos, and your desire for a homosexual relation with Adolf Hitler.
That you confuse your pseudo - scientific dribble as worth while simply demonstrates that you deserve to be ridiculed every bit as much as the crazy woman in the park with the tin foil cap that talks about how we should all aspire to be like your favorite Star Trek character Data.
You are the clown of this forum, the invalid that we keep around for a good laugh. If this were medieval times, you would serve no other purpose than to be the jester. Biologically, you are genetic scum, genetic sewage. You are the epitome of biological garbage that would be eugenically bred out of a White Nationalist Nation. Your family line is the quintessence of what can only be described as a sub-human cesspool of genetic filth. You utterly disgust me and are not even good enough to be considered in the same category of the Sub-Saharan Negro, doing so would be an insult to the Negro, who are more useful than you. In fact, me claiming that you are the intellectual equivalent of a chimp is actually a great injustice to non-human primates, who still prove more useful than you. No, you are not good enough to be compared to chimps. You are lower than chimps, you are a dog, you are a dodo, you are lizard. Alas, I am afraid that I have once again offended various animals by this categorization. You are not even good enough to be considered a multi-cellular organism. Rather, you are a protozoan, you are the equivalent of Malaria, Cyclosporiasis, Giardiasis. I spoke without thinking, for you are not even good enough to be compared to eukaryotic organisms. You are instead a bacteria. You are no better than chlamydia, gonorrhea, Syphilis.
The site of your face even disgusts gonorrhea and other STDs. They cry out for not being compared to a loathsome, depraved, and vulgar creature such as yourself. For someone of your characteristics can only be compared to a virus; you are the embodiment of HIV, Genital Herpes, Genital Warts, polio.
The truth is, you are absolutely nothing. There is no piece of matter in existence in the universe that is low enough to be compared to you. The same holds true for anti-matter. You are an absolute zero.
Regards,
White Nationalist
2003-08-27 08:11 | User Profile
This Argumentum Ad Hominem thing is quite fun. I think I will try it out for while, take a break from rationalism and objectivity.
Regards,
White Nationalist
2003-08-27 17:47 | User Profile
Ares - I have contacted the media and the "elites." FoxJews said they would try to schedule Taylor and MacDonald next week for Hannity and Colmes. I will inform you of the exact time will it becomes available.
2003-08-27 17:58 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Chaucer@Aug 27 2003, 11:47 * ** Ares - I have contacted the media and the "elites." FoxJews said they would try to schedule Taylor and MacDonald next week for Hannity and Colmes. I will inform you of the exact time will it becomes available.
**
By media elites, I don't mean just the two main main sources: Fox and CNN, but rather the totality of all media owners, whether small or large: local newspaper owners, local radio station owners, high volume website owners, etc. For example, the site of Rotten.com is very high volume. I sent them an article from Nowarforisrael.com exposing all the Jews in Bush's cabinet pushing the war, and they posted it. Small things like this add up to a great promotional effect. I would say that at least half of all whites get part of their news from small media sources. What if the Gentile owned sources become racialists? It's worth a try.
White nationalist
2003-08-27 19:44 | User Profile
**This Argumentum Ad Hominem thing is quite fun. I think I will try it out for while, take a break from rationalism and objectivity. **
Translation: I'm a Heaven's Gate survior that got tired pretending to be data and losing every debate I ever attempted. I'll act like the degenerate creep I am am instead.
** Matt Nuenke and Jared Taylor say they are White Nationalists. **
Yet they promote the physical destruction of my race so their claim is bogus. I should have noted that they are as dishonest Ares and stand corrected.
** You are a degenerate Neo-Nazi loser. **
Again Ares demonstrates heââ¬â¢s morally and intellectually bankrupt.
** You are a low IQ redneck with the cultural enrichment of an invalid.**
Again Ares demonstrates heââ¬â¢s morally and intellectually bankrupt.
** Your mother has sex with goats. **
Here Ares projects his personal life on to others as a result of being morally and intellectually bankrupt.
Okey, as long as you acknowledge that morality is subjective, and that you personally define morality as those actions which support National Socialism.
Morality has societal consequences whose effects can be observed and measured as being objectively destructive or productive to that society.
** Most of what you support is Neo-Nazi skinhead thuggery and idiocy. You are the intellectual equivalent of a chimp.**
Again Ares demonstrates heââ¬â¢s morally and intellectually bankrupt and boring as well.
You're a fag.
Again Ares demonstrates heââ¬â¢s morally and intellectually bankrupt and that he has the verbal dexterity of a socially retarded eight year old.
** While you blather on about your idiotic Adolf Hitler fantasies of creating a nation of shaved headed and swastika tatooed inbreds, I will be grounded in reality. **
Here gain Ares demonstrates heââ¬â¢s morally and intellectually bankrupt, boring and hoping to land a job with the ADL spamming boards like this one. So he can supplement the money he steals from his mommyââ¬â¢s purse while hiding out in her basement.
I come to the conclusion that your parents are brother and sister, which explains your fetish for Swastikas, Shaved heads, tatoos, and your desire for a homosexual relation with Adolf Hitler.
Again Ares demonstrates heââ¬â¢s morally and intellectually bankrupt and too stupid to get a paying job of any sort.
You are the clown of this forum, the invalid that we keep around for a good laugh.
The us of the term ââ¬Åweââ¬Â to denote no one but oneââ¬â¢s self is a classic example of identity confusion which fits in well with Ares established pattern of mental illness seen in his desire to be kidnaped by aliens.
If this were medieval times, you would serve no other purpose than to be the jester. Biologically, you are genetic scum, genetic sewage.
Again Ares demonstrates heââ¬â¢s morally and intellectually bankrupt and boring as well.
**You are the epitome of biological garbage that would be eugenically bred out of a White Nationalist Nation. **
Which in Ares' little fantasy world consists of jews and Asians prior to aliens giving him the trans-human technology which will allow us to be like his hero data.
Your family line is the quintessence of what can only be described as a sub-human cesspool of genetic filth.
Yawn
**You utterly disgust me and are not even good enough to be considered in the same category of the Sub-Saharan Negro, doing so would be an insult to the Negro, who are more useful than you. In fact, me claiming that you are the intellectual equivalent of a chimp is actually a great injustice to non-human primates, who still prove more useful than you.
No, you are not good enough to be compared to chimps. You are lower than chimps, you are a dog, you are a dodo, you are lizard. Alas, I am afraid that I have once again offended various animals by this categorization. You are not even good enough to be considered a multi-cellular organism. Rather, you are a protozoan, you are the equivalent of Malaria, Cyclosporiasis, Giardiasis. I spoke without thinking, for you are not even good enough to be compared to eukaryotic organisms. You are instead a bacteria. You are no better than chlamydia, gonorrhea, Syphilis.
The site of your face even disgusts gonorrhea and other STDs. They cry out for not being compared to a loathsome, depraved, and vulgar creature such as yourself. For someone of your characteristics can only be compared to a virus; you are the embodiment of HIV, Genital Herpes, Genital Warts, polio.
The truth is, you are absolutely nothing. There is no piece of matter in existence in the universe that is low enough to be compared to you. The same holds true for anti-matter. You are an absolute zero.**
Here the pathetic wastrel known as Ares has a little tantrum which he assumes will conceal the fact that he has nothing to say and is in no way a white nationalist of any form. Just a sad little freak with no life, a keyboard and his mommyââ¬â¢s basement.
2003-08-28 00:51 | User Profile
I can't imagine a group of Jews discussing strategy and expending so much effort on personal disagreement. Regardless of the messenger's tactics or position on other issues, we must consider if there is any validity in the notion of recruiting elites. First of all, I call them collaborators rather than elites. Their motives for collaboration have been outlined in this thread. I understand them as my grandfather was a newspaper/collaborator for almost 50 years.
Rather than argue the futility of recruiting these collaborators, why not discuss strategies for recruiting the small percentage of them who realize they have children and grandchildren?
Why not discuss how they are screened, recruited and groomed for collaboration?
Is there a taboo against discussing the possible roles of the Skull and Bones and the Freemasons in the collaborating elite? There are reasons to suspect that the higherarchies of these societies have been manipulated by the Jews, unbeknownst to the rank and file. We don't want to offend or alienate them, maybe they can help. Ignoring this has gotten us nowhere. Are you willing to discuss this?
2003-08-28 01:09 | User Profile
Fine post Travis,
Basially, I see two ways to look at the issue of crecruitment you mention I see two ways to look at the matter which are basically inter-related. A good deal of it deals with meta-politcal matters which I mentioned with my referances to Mosca & Pareto's theories of elite degeneration and societal revolution. In a practical sense that means getting back to issue of forming an activist cadre and activism methods which I spend so much time on here and where. Of course in order to give meaning to such notions I return once again to the matter of forming a viable alternative idelogically raher then public policy wish lists, nostalgia or merely critiqueing the current order. That means
As to secret societies I am not sure about demonstrating that they matter and to what extent. As a result, I simply don't know how to address the issue. W.E. Kurtz is right in that a good deal of bringing people in to the struggle has much to do with one being a living example that is contrary to the propasphere's portrayal of racialists. I have done so and I have had decent success with my political efforts.
2003-08-28 01:19 | User Profile
Jews have a synagogues and other more tested venues for discussion, which allow them to better exclude those who are disruptive to reasonable debate and time-tested strategies.
Our situation, as those wishing to further pro-white-gentile discourse, is totally different from that of the Jews, and there is not necessarily much reason to draw parallels between the our situation and theirs.
Given the reality that there are many idiotic and/or mentally imblanced individuals who gum up all attempts at reasonable debate about white gentile interests, we will just have to put up with a lot of disagreement and in-fighting.
Also, it would be wise to consider that those presenting the more neo-Nazi type sentiments are likely to be leftist (Jews or gentiles) who seek to keep a 'saleable' pro-white-gentile discourse from emerging.
2003-08-28 02:09 | User Profile
Originally posted by iwannabeanarchy@Aug 27 2003, 19:19 * *Jews have a synagogues and other more tested venues for discussion, which allow them to better exclude those who are disruptive to reasonable debate and time-tested strategies.
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I wonder if Jewish strategic brainstorming exists much at that level. I think this is done at a much higher level and passed down thru the rabbis. I don't think that most of the attendees at synagogs understand the Jewish conspiracy or even want to but rather carry out agendas at the direction of rabbis without full knowledge of how their actions fit into the big picture. I believe that's how it has to be in order to keep things secret. That way, all Jews are Jewish supremacists whether they know it or not.
Contrast that to our situation, where only the tiny percentage of racially aware Whites are part of the resistance, and all those that are unaware are no help at all. I don't have any idea what percentage of Americas population consists of any kind of White resistance but I'd guess it's much less than the Jewish population.
Having said that, I don't see how we can afford to exclude any Whites from the resistance movement, and as you say we have to put up with the petty power struggles.
Your point is well taken though, but I think they accomplish what you say thru chain of command, thus excluding their lesser bretheren from discourse without excluding them from participation. We don't have this luxury.
2003-08-28 02:28 | User Profile
*Originally posted by triskelion@Aug 27 2003, 19:09 * **
As to secret societies I am not sure about demonstrating that they matter and to what extent. As a result, I simply don't know how to address the issue.
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It's in the interest of the clever tribe to hijack and corrupt the gentile cream of the crop and a logical means of doing so would be to create or infiltrate secret societies and reward them for treason.
Only the higherarchy of Masons needs to be corrupt, so I suspect this is the case. Most Masons are decent people in my opinion.
Bush jr. and sr. are members of the Skull and Bones. Members of S&B are mostly gentiles but both Bushes have been good poodles to the Jews.
Some secret societies pose as think tanks but consist of the worlds elite, both Jew and Gentile and meet secretly.
Here are some links on the subject:
[url=http://freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com/]http://freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com/[/url] [url=http://www.trilateral.org/]http://www.trilateral.org/[/url] [url=http://www.cfr.org/]http://www.cfr.org/[/url] [url=http://www.newamericancentury.org/]http://www.newamericancentury.org/[/url]
2003-08-28 02:50 | User Profile
NCRAC changed its name to the JCPA.
[url=http://www.thejewishweek.com/top/editletcontent.php3?artid=602]http://www.thejewishweek.com/top/editletco....php3?artid=602[/url]
The theme of a recent conference on Jewish philanthropy was: ââ¬ÅSaving the Whales: Is It Jewish Funding?ââ¬Â The query is a close cousin to the more famously posed one ââ¬â What is a Jewish issue? ââ¬â a matter of particular interest to the Jewish Council for Public Affairs. This is so because the JCPA, the umbrella organization for 122 Jewish Community Relations Councils and 13 national agencies, develops public policy positions on behalf of the organized American Jewish community.
2003-08-28 06:18 | User Profile
*Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Aug 27 2003, 13:55 * ** Look on the bright side, Triskelion. At least little Ares still has the annual Star Trek convention to look forward to. Isn't it time for Ares to get off this forum and start putting together his costume for the convention? **
Argumentum Ad Hominem. Please keep your posts rational and objective from now on.
Regards,
White Nationalist
2003-08-28 06:26 | User Profile
Ares various foolish babblings
Argumentum ad hominem.
Currently, East Asians and Whites in America are interbreeding at a significant rate. They may go on to replace the less fit pure White race.
Regards,
White Nationalist
2003-08-28 07:29 | User Profile
AY quote:
**Look on the bright side, Triskelion. At least little Ares still has the annual Star Trek convention to look forward to. Isn't it time for Ares to get off this forum and start putting together his costume for the convention? **
Ares quote:
Argumentum Ad Hominem. Please keep your posts rational and objective from now on.
Translation: I'll say Argumentum Ad Hominem because it sounds neat to those that don't know what it means (ex. me Ares) and hope that no one notices that nothing I say is rational or objective but just mindless twaddle drapped in scientific sounding terms I can't understand.
Ares various foolish babblings
Ares quote:
Argumentum ad hominem.
Translation: I'll say Argumentum Ad Hominem because it sounds neat to those that don't know what it means (ex. me Ares) and hope that no one notices that nothing I say is rational or objective but just mindless twaddle drapped in scientific sounding terms I can't understand.
** Currently, East Asians and Whites in America are interbreeding at a significant rate. They may go on to replace the less fit pure White race. **
Translation: I want to see whites destroyed but i'll assume that everyone here is to stupid to notice if I call my self White Nationalist.
2003-08-28 15:10 | User Profile
Originally posted by mwdallas@Aug 27 2003, 22:50 * *NCRAC changed its name to the JCPA.
[url=http://www.thejewishweek.com/top/editletcontent.php3?artid=602]http://www.thejewishweek.com/top/editletco....php3?artid=602[/url]
The theme of a recent conference on Jewish philanthropy was: ââ¬ÅSaving the Whales: Is It Jewish Funding?ââ¬Â The query is a close cousin to the more famously posed one ââ¬â What is a Jewish issue? ââ¬â a matter of particular interest to the Jewish Council for Public Affairs. This is so because the JCPA, the umbrella organization for 122 Jewish Community Relations Councils and 13 national agencies, develops public policy positions on behalf of the organized American Jewish community.**
The identification and study of how competing ethnic groups are organized is, I think, a vitally important undertaking. Thanks to mwdallas and wintermute for providing information on the NCRAC/JCPA.
Another organization involved in Jewish public affairs shares the same acronym: The Jerusalem Center on Public Affairs. Headed by Dore Gold, it is ostensibly located in Jerusalem but has U.S. operations in Philadelphia, Washington and Los Angeles. They are, of course, legally registered as a 501©(3) non-profit educational institute by the tax authorities of the United States.
Deborah Lipstadt is among the many U.S. board members and fellows of the JCPA.
Not to distract from argumentum ad hominem, I've nonetheless started a thread on this organization here: [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=10616&st=0#entry58874]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...st=0#entry58874[/url]
Comments and additions are requested.
2003-08-28 15:44 | User Profile
Originally posted by White Nationalist@Aug 28 2003, 00:26 * ** > Ares various foolish babblings*
Argumentum ad hominem.
Currently, East Asians and Whites in America are interbreeding at a significant rate. They may go on to replace the less fit pure White race.
Regards,
White Nationalist **
WN, do you have scientific evidence for this claim? (And what do you mean by 'significant'?)
'Currently, East Asians and Whites in America are interbreeding at a significant rate.'
2003-08-28 19:40 | User Profile
*Originally posted by iwannabeanarchy@Aug 28 2003, 09:44 * ** WN, do you have scientific evidence for this claim? (And what do you mean by 'significant'?)
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I read it somewhere at Matt Nuenke's site of [url=http://www.neoeugenics.com/]http://www.neoeugenics.com/[/url] There is an amazingly large quantity of text on that site, I can't remember the exact location. But what he said was that East Asians and Whites are genetically a lot closer than are Blacks and Whites, and as such, East Asians and Whites readily interbreed, often by meeting in college.
And by significant, I mean that they are interbreeding at a rate in which a pattern is actually noticeable. They are currently in a process of creating a completely new breed of human, a hybrid one of White/East Asian.
Nuenke's site has a very large bibliography at [url=http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/bib.htm]http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/bib.htm[/url] where he gets all his data.
Regards,
White Nationalist
2003-08-28 20:23 | User Profile
I agree that this is a 'significant' development, but we have to keep in mind that data on marriages suggests that only a very small percentages of whites marry outside their race, and a smaller percentage still marry Asians. You can see www.isteve.com (somewhere....) in order to find his article on recent marriage data.
2003-08-28 20:29 | User Profile
*Originally posted by iwannabeanarchy@Aug 28 2003, 14:23 * ** I agree that this is a 'significant' development, but we have to keep in mind that data on marriages suggests that only a very small percentages of whites marry outside their race, and a smaller percentage still marry Asians. You can see www.isteve.com (somewhere....) in order to find his article on recent marriage data. **
Yes, I'll accept that it is a small percentage. Here is what I wonder: What percentage of East Asians living in America interbreed with Whites? By East Asian, I mean Chinese, koreans, and Japanese only.
White Nationalist
2003-08-28 22:36 | User Profile
I would not be surprised if close to 50% of East Asian females in the US marry whites. There are of course over a billion of their relatives back home, thus they don't need to have much in the way of worries about the decline of their race (unlike, obviously, whites).
2003-08-28 23:01 | User Profile
It's supposed to be even higher than 50%. Most of the E. Asian women that bother to answer queries as to why they marry whites say it's not so much looks as some say, but attitude. They say even the most Americanized E. Asian men become very tyrannical behind closed doors, expecting the wife to be a footservant. Don't know how true this is, but that's what the women claimed. I remember the article that stated this was an "Asian American" magazine, so it made it that much more interesting that they would print this type of info.
Yeah, the info on inter-racial marriages by Whites actually shows that such marriages are actually rare, despite what ZOG-vision would present to the country.
2003-08-28 23:17 | User Profile
*Originally posted by travis@Aug 27 2003, 18:09 * **
Contrast that to our situation, where only the tiny percentage of racially aware Whites are part of the resistance, and all those that are unaware are no help at all. I don't have any idea what percentage of Americas population consists of any kind of White resistance but I'd guess it's much less than the Jewish population.
Having said that, I don't see how we can afford to exclude any Whites from the resistance movement, and as you say we have to put up with the petty power struggles. **
Good points, although I do think there are some Whites who should be excluded, but that's a very, very small percentage of the White population. Awareness is key, and most are not aware as to the dire situation that exits right now. Awareness is either going to come about by (finally) real organization, or a complete collapse and the ensuing chaos that forces Whites to become aware, and forces them to "get in touch" with their fighting spirit. Those that don't, well, tough luck. They will serve as lessons to the rest of Whites, lessons that will show in dramatic fashion what will happen if Whites don't fight to take things back. Yeah, sounds silly to some, but that's where I think it's headed, as most on the board know.
The jews have their power struggles, but at the end of the day, they might be at each other's throats, but that won't stop them from sticking up for each other against EVERYONE else, overtly or covertly.
The elites? They are too comfortable, and don't realize that if Whites were KO'd, "average" Whites that is, they'll be off big holes dug in the forest in no time at all. They have only an allegiance to class right now, not to race. Like all other Whites, they need that "element of peril" to wake them up. Joe Sixpack and his weekends spent with boon-ball and beer is just as comfortable in his state as are the "elites", the traitors as I call them, the collaborators as someone else termed them. are in their current state(s). Whites need to be backed in a corner, hounded like dogs as some have said.
You can only kick a dog so many times ... most dogs end up biting. The longer the kicking goes on, the worse the backlash will be. So be it.
We don't need the infighting so much as we should just ignore the interlopers who think disparaging posts will make Whites give up. Let 'em spend their ADL sponsored trolling time somewhere else. Give 'em nothing but silence.
2003-08-28 23:41 | User Profile
They will serve as lessons to the rest of Whites, lessons that will show in dramatic fashion what will happen if Whites don't fight to take things back. Yeah, sounds silly to some, but that's where I think it's headed, as most on the board know.
I know I keep bringing this one up, but the Wichita Massacre (I like using caps for this) is a great example of what Whites can expect on a nationwide scale once the chaos reigns. I tell everyone I can about it, and it's just a bonus to be able to segue straight into the media blackout of black-on-white crime. I usually give hints as to why that might be... ;)
2003-08-29 01:20 | User Profile
I just don't have such a low opinion of white elites. Many younger white elites look well beyond there own personal situation, and can be appealed to, to do what is right. It is just that they are caught up in an educational, political, and media system thoroughly dominated by overlappin leftist, Jewish, homosexual, and anti-Christian ideals.
Thus I do not think they have to 'feel the pain' directly to change. There is enough pain out there in terms of job losses to immigrants, destruction of possibilities for white social bonding [through blacks and immigrants filling up school, church, and company social gatherings, bars, clubs, and other places people can get to know each other], single whites seeing attractive whites breeding with non-whites, the content of film and TV [endless gays, interracial interaction--particularly blondes and black males, often with explicit sexual connotations, denigration of Nordic males, focus on Israel and Jewish historical experience], etc. Ok, if you have a stable relationship with a white mate whom you respect, are wealthy, and have good on-going job prospects, most of this might not borther you so much that you will break out of the leftist-Semitic mindset [note that I do use the term 'Zionist,' since this refers to something specific and indeed, on my view, quite different]. But most people will hit some bad patches in their life, such that even should things turn good again, they will still remember how thing seem when they are not going well, and may relate some of life's problems to leftist-Semitic forces.
It is of course important to avoid excessive victimology. But it is quite another thing to identify real social forces, however distributed, that wrong one or truly contribute to the detriment of one's life situation.
I think we could to a lot to convince younger white elites of the need for race consciousness if we could find an appropriate vocabulary--one that would appeal to them--to describe the often very complex deterioration of one's cultural and social situation that occurs as one's environment comes to be dominated both physically and ideologically by alien groups.
In particular, it is necessary to allow that these alien groups have their own legitimate interests and legitimate ways of pursuing them, but that our situation is often a zero sum one, and that is often right to pursue one's own group interests even if one has no way of proving that one's group defintely has more of a right to exist than other groups. Thus co-opting certain features of liberal-libertarian, 'multicultural' ideologies is necessary.
Culture is the key. Whites are willing to believe that their culture is very, very valuable, and defintely worth preserving. The truth that we have to ram home--one that leftists and most Jews will deny--is that most of what is valuable about white culture will decline in proportion to the decline of the white race. It is obvious that, apparent from our science and some of our political and religious values, white culture will disappear from the earth the minute that the white race does. Still, leftists will deny this. The bigger problem--and possibility--lies with the fact that most whites just don't think about this, and have just never considered things in this way.
We are whites. We feel invulnerable. The Anglo-Saxon people have never been conquered by any besides the Norse; the white race has, in general, been victorious over other races in a manner that is historically un-precedented. We just don't feel the danger properly. That has to change, but I do not think more Wichitas are necessary to do this.
2003-08-29 20:23 | User Profile
*Originally posted by White Nationalist@Aug 28 2003, 00:18 * ** Argumentum Ad Hominem. Please keep your posts rational and objective from now on.
Regards,
White Nationalist **
Ares, you Star Trek caricature, that's not argumentum ad hominem. That's called sarcasm. The fact that you're unable to grasp it speaks volumes of the depth of your intelligence.
You're a lonely, sexually frustrated, and socially inept pseudo-intellectual, Ares. I fell sorry for you.