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Centinel [OP]

2003-08-11 19:24 | User Profile

From The Associated Press, available online at: [url=http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/6504038.htm]http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/6504038.htm[/url]

Posted on Mon, Aug. 11, 2003

Schwarzenegger opposed immigrant services

By SANDRA MARQUEZ Associated Press

LOS ANGELES - Actor Arnold Schwarzenegger voted for a 1994 ballot measure to deny social services to illegal immigrants, his campaign said Sunday - offering the first glimpse of the actor's stand on a major policy issue.

The Republican has promoted himself as the candidate in California's gubernatorial recall who can best appeal to the state's politically and ethnically diverse electorate.

But Democrats were quick to jump on the disclosure as a chink in the action hero's armor.

The GOP-backed Proposition 187 to deny health care and public education to illegal immigrants was passed by a wide margin, although it was eventually ruled unconstitutional. It remains a contentious issue and a litmus test for some voters, particularly Hispanics, to gauge whether a candidate is immigrant-friendly.

Schwarzenegger campaign manager George Gorton said the Austrian-born actor's vote for the measure would not prevent him from reaching out to all voters.

"He has a lot of empathy for people who have come here for a better way of living, whether they have gotten here legally or illegally," Gorton said. "But he definitely feels that people should get here legally."

Gorton said Hispanics were among the strongest supporters of Proposition 49, a ballot measure Schwarzenegger successfully campaigned for last year aimed at dedicating as much as $550 million annually to before- and after-school programs.

Speaking on ABC's "This Week," Art Torres, chairman of the California Democratic Party, slammed Schwarzenegger for his decision to appoint former Gov. Pete Wilson, the architect of Proposition 187, as chairman of his new campaign.

"There's a famous phrase in our community, and that is, judge a person by the friends that he keeps," Torres said. "And unfortunately, his new chairman, Governor Wilson, supported 187 furiously against immigrants and Latinos."

The issue was one of the first Schwarzenegger's campaign has publicly addressed, discussing the vote in response to a reporter's inquiry.

Democratic Gov. Gray Davis, who is trying to survive the recall, and Schwarzenegger's Republican rivals have criticized him for speaking mostly in generalities since announcing his candidacy Wednesday.

Davis opposed Proposition 187.


xmetalhead

2003-08-11 19:27 | User Profile

You zee, Ahnuld, zee brun peeeples need za better life in Amerikwa. Illegal immigrants...zay are entitled to zee freeeeedom of Amerikwa. Dis nation is built on zee immigration, 1000% my Herr. {Gasp! [glass breaks]} Ahnuld!! Vat is dis I am hearing?!!!?!!?!?...........

[color=red]Schwarzenegger Opposed Immigrant Services in 1994!!![/color]


Drakmal

2003-08-12 00:50 | User Profile

It used to be that many sons were expected to follow in their father's footsteps. If Arnold isn't a poster child for a return to this tradition, I don't know what is. :D


Faust

2003-08-12 01:41 | User Profile

[SIZE=3]Even stopped clocks are right twice a day![/SIZE]

:jest:


JAT

2003-08-12 09:52 | User Profile

"Conservative" media outlets in Los Angeles have been mentioning this, and claiming that once in office, he'll take a hard-nosed postition against illegal immigration. However, I'm not buying it. Mr. Black-Plowman heavily endorsed, in the last CA election cycle, a bond measure for after school programs. In other words, a bond measure for the children of illegal immigrants.

Immigration is at the crux of gubernatorial issues to grapple with in CA, given that more than 90% of California's woes are to do with the Mestizo invasion. Most candidates, however, want to ignore this ten billion ton elephant and skirt it with vague prattle about "special interest groups" and "making California golden again". :sleep:


Roy Batty

2003-08-12 19:58 | User Profile

The conservative media outlets in L.A. have been bringing it up, and the rest of the media has slowly been tossing it out here and there, mentioning it as a "liability." It was surprising to learn that Pete Wilson is on Conan's staff, as Wilson is the guy who actually mentioned illegals when he ran (and won) for governor, complete with campaign commercials showing bean dogs hopping the border, leading the cops on wild pursuits, and marching in downtown L.A. screaming for freebies.

Right now CA is the center ring of the circus that America has become.

I'm more interested in seeing how much voter fraud will take place in an effort to put Puto in Chief, Hijo de Tiajuana Puta, Lt. Governor Cruz Cocaine Fiend "blacks are nig*ers" Bustamante in the governor's chair.

[url=http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-elect/2003/aug/07/080701229.html]http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/.../080701229.html[/url]

**The lieutenant governor caused a stir two years ago when he used a racial slur against blacks in a speech to the Coalition of Black Trade Unionists. But the remark was largely forgiven after he apologized for it as an out-of-character slip. **

A slip, eh? ANY White politician calling blacks negroes - at the State Capitol no less - would be begging for change in front of rban's 7/11.

So many illegals vote in CA - and so many crooked "minorities" handle the ballot boxes that arrive at City Halls etc. to be "counted" it's a wonder that Bustamante didn't get 90% of the vote in his last election.