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Thread ID: 8827 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2003-08-07
2003-08-07 01:49 | User Profile
Arnold Schwarzenegger has announced, to the surprise of most, he will indeed run for Governor of CA. The sense of unreality here in la-la land increases daily.
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LOS ANGELES ÃÂ ?ÃÂ Arnold Schwarzenegger on Wednesday terminated aÃÂ monthslong buildup of suspense when he announced he would jump into California's Oct. 7 recall election.
The Austrian-born actor, a Republican who is married into the Kennedy dynasty, revealed his intentions to replace beleaguered DemocraticÃÂ Gov. Gray Davis (search)ÃÂ during a taping of "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno."
The announcement came as a surprise to many,ÃÂ as sources close toÃÂ SchwarzeneggerÃÂ had been telling the media the actor had decided not to throw his hat into the ring. There was also speculation that his wife, journalist Maria Shriver, had urged him to stay out of the recall race.
Fox News has learned that the actor had even composed a press release as late asÃÂ Tuesday announcing he would not run. Sources speculated Schwarzenegger'sÃÂ change of heartÃÂ may have been prompted by Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein's announcement Wednesday ruling out a run.
"The politicians are fiddling, fumbling and failing," he said on "The Tonight Show." "The man that is failing the people more than anyone is Gray Davis. He is failing them terribly, and this is why he needs to be recalled and this is why I am going to run for governor."
Schwarzenegger's entry into the recall race gives California Republicans beneficial star power, but may also castÃÂ doubt on whether popular former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan (search)ÃÂ will alsoÃÂ vie for the title of governor. Riordan, who is a close friend, had previously said he would run if Schwarzenegger decided not to.
Wonder who's behind this adventure?
2003-08-07 02:18 | User Profile
BOO! Not only is Ahnold an immigration enthusiast, I was seriously looking forward to the chaos ensuing from 108 candidates vying for the California governorship. :thd:
2003-08-07 02:33 | User Profile
[Russian accent]: "ahh, you miss point. Ahnold is vell-known Jew-pal. Ahnold vould do anyting da Jews vant. Pass any HoloSvindle or hate-crime legislation Jews vant. Any! Anysky! Ahnold is Good For Jews...
Now, vere my vodka...?"
2003-08-07 05:56 | User Profile
So who all in Kalifornia is gonna vote for Davis?
That old "gasoline on the fire" thing everyone keeps talking about, cuz you know Ah-nuld ain't gonna do jack for Middle Americans.
2003-08-07 07:26 | User Profile
**Conservatives Say 'No Thanks,' Arnold Patrick Mallon and Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com Monday, July 28, 2003 The California governor's race is up for grabs and a bevy of Republicans are throwing in their hats.
But one thing is sure: If he runs, Arnold Schwarzenegger wonââ¬â¢t have the support of the conservative Reaganites who dominate the state's Republican party.
"The conservative wing of the party doesnââ¬â¢t want Schwarzenegger," syndicated talk show host and Fox News commentator Mike Reagan told NewsMax Sunday. Reagan is the son of former president Ronald Reagan and a champion of his father's conservatism.
Former White House staffer and Republican strategist Ken Khachigian notes that conservatives are already criticizing Schwarzenegger's statement that he was "ashamed" of his party's attack on former President Clinton during the 1998 impeachment. Schwarzenegger opposed Bill Clinton's impeachment.
"That's like [The Dixie Chicks'] Natalie Maines saying she was ashamed to be from the same state as the president," Khachigian, now an adviser for GOP gubernatorial candidate Rep. Darrell Issa, told the Sacramento Bee. "Republicans are asking what are the differences between Gray Davis and him."
Popular radio host George Putnam, who airs on Los Angeles' KPLS, echoes the sentiments of most conservatives. "I love Arnold," Putnam says, "but this is not his moment. This is a moment that demands a person steeped in political and economic skills who can save this state."
Putnam says the recall election is "not a popularity contest, but a defining moment in the state's history. It's a time that calls for statesmanship."
But the press hype suggests that Schwarzenegger has Republican Party support all but locked up.
Hit the rewind button to early last year. Richard Riordan, the Republican mayor of Los Angeles, announced his intention to run for governor.
The liberal mayor was so quickly anointed to be the candidate that the major media ââ¬â and even the White House ââ¬â forgot a little thing called a primary.
They had little idea that political neophyte Bill Simon would defeat Riordan in the March 2002 primary.
But those who have their fingers on the pulse of the party knew what the establishment types didnââ¬â¢t ââ¬â that Republicans in California donââ¬â¢t want a Republican who acts and talks and votes like a Democrat. That was Richard Riordan.
Riordan is very close to Arnold Schwarzenegger and says heââ¬â¢ll defer to him if he runs.
America's Terminator
To be sure, Republicans like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
He is a charismatic millionaire body builder/businessman/action hero. He embodies the Republican ideal of the "self-made man."
Born on July 30, 1947, in Graz, Austria, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a perfectionist who loathes confusion, lack of discipline and disorder.
He also has a huge fan base and is much beloved.
But a big question looms about the actor ââ¬â does he have the experience to deal with the worst fiscal crisis the state of California has ever faced?
Also, the base of the California Republicans ââ¬â the core voters who will vote in a special recall race ââ¬â may not be thrilled with Arnoldââ¬â¢s social liberalism.
He characterizes himself as a true blue Republican, but is "pro-choice" when most conservatives oppose abortion.
He supports gay adoption, despite the fact that both conservative Republicans and moderate Democrats voted by a 61 percent margin for Proposition 22, the Defense of Marriage Initiative, which defined marriage as that between a man and a woman. He supports gun control, a position strongly opposed by traditional conservatives.
Former Sen. Bill Bradley, D-N.J., has said of Arnold, "He's pro-choice [pro-abortion], pro-gay rights. ... He's a member of the Kennedy family and some of that, I think, has rubbed off on him."
What Do Conservatives Think of Arnold?
Republican consultant Sal Russo told NewsMax, "You cannot get elected governor of California today without having a plan to deal with the momentous problems Gray Davis either created or exacerbated. Being a celebrity is not enough."
"Without a transition period, it is imperative that the new governor be prepared to govern from day one," Russo said.
"That will make it extremely difficult for candidates who are unfamiliar with state issues. For a Republican to be successful, they also have to be in synch with the Republican base, which will dominate the turnout in a special election. It will not be friendly territory for a RINO [Republican in name only]."
Arnold is not a total RINO like Richard Riordan, but heââ¬â¢s untested and relatively unexamined. He may fade quickly as voters focus on his qualifications to be governor.
White House officials have indicated they would look kindly on a Schwarzenegger candidacy. Karl Rove, President Bush's primary adviser, told the New York Times that Schwarzenegger as California governor would be "nice. Really, really nice."
But thatââ¬â¢s pretty much what they were saying about Riordan last year.
Arnold has a history with the Bush family, having served as the chairman of the President's Council on Sports and Fitness during the during the first Bush administration from 1990-92.
But Rove and the White House have been wrong before, tapping Riordan, who was rejected by the party faithful.
The Reagan Mantle
One thing is for sure: In this election, the candidates will be trying to grab the mantle of Ronald Reagan, the twice-elected governor who inherited a fiscal mess when he took office in 1967.
Schwarzenegger so admires "The Gipper" that he has a large bust of Reagan in his office.
"Reagan was heaven," he says.
But Michael Reagan told NewsMax.com that Schwarzenegger is not a conservative and he and other California conservatives will not support him if he runs in the recall election.
"The only thing Schwarzenegger has ever done politically is put a ballot measure on the California ballot in the last election to raise my taxes," Reagan said.
"He is not a conservative. All heââ¬â¢s got is a name because heââ¬â¢s an actor. If you want to know the difference between my father and Arnold Schwarzenegger, Iââ¬â¢ll give you a couple: Maria Shriver/Nancy Reagan is one. Thereââ¬â¢s a big difference politically between them.
"And number two, Ronald Reagan held the position of running a union, nine times as president of the Screen Actorââ¬â¢s Guild, and was active politically for many, many years before he ever delved into elective politics himself when he finally ran for governor.
"Arnold Schwarzenegger, on the other hand, is nothing but an actor. He has never been a politician and he hasnââ¬â¢t given me one reason to vote for him. Vote for him for Actor of the Year? Maybe."
Reagan added that he is supporting Darrell Issa, the California congressman who put up the money to get the recall election off the ground.
Appealing Candidate
Arnold does have several attributes that make him an appealing candidate.
He is well-known and liked. He has money.
The candidates for the recall vote will have just two months to run ââ¬â not enough time to raise the $10 million insiders say will be necessary to win. A serious candidate needs to plunk down his own money to win.
Arnold also has some good advisers.
Arnold's "Kitchen Cabinet" derives directly from one of his strongest backers, former California Gov. Pete Wilson himself.
Arnoldââ¬â¢s staff includes George Gorton, campaign manager for former Gov. and Sen. Pete Wilson, as well as Bob White, Chief of Staff for Gov. Wilson.
But the question remains: Will California voters elect an actor who has no executive or public policy experience to head the state during its worst financial crisis ever?
Even if the Terminator could win the hearts of the Republican base, it's doubtful he would be able to win over the California electorate.
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Fellow Austrian Sidles Up with Open Borders Crowd "Dick Riordan and I are close, close friends. I supported him when he was mayor." -- Arnold Schwarzenegger, August 6, 2003 press conference announcing candidacy for California governorship.
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2003-08-07 09:24 | User Profile
California is ungovernable at the moment. If Davis is recalled, in six months everyone will loathe his replacement. Most of the states are in financial trouble, but real solutions are politically taboo. In a way it is fun to watch this unfold.
2003-08-07 11:31 | User Profile
"Ahnold is vell-known Jew-pal. Ahnold vould do anyting da Jews vant"
Yeah Franco, didn't Arnold get the seal of approval from Abe at the ADL by renouncing his own father who served in the Wehrmacht or even an SS unit? I seem to remember Arnold did not trust the Austrian government to provide accurate details about his father's WWII assignment and so asked Abe Foxman to use ADL sources to find out the real truth about his family.
Incidental and off topic: Franco, I took you up on a recommendation you made to me at that flash in the pan VNN forum. I reactivated an old OD account, and so far am happily reading forum posts by OD's more politically mature contributors.
Despite all the bs from White and Alex about the putative putsch at the NA, it now looks like both White and Alex have not only failed to oust KAS, but VNN has lost many old timer white nationalists. I know of four like me in California who are old enough not to have to depend on get rich schemes and who are now not so forgiving of Alex, Tsun and White as Jack Boot and others on OD apparently are.
I will continue to barter at Feldgrau and other non Jew sites. We will never use Shop White, and we would never rejoin a VNN forum under White if the lame assed fool ever manages to get one back up. Let Alex and White have all the 12 year olds infatuated with Hollywood war movies join their forum.
2003-08-07 15:16 | User Profile
Others throwing their hat in the ring include Gallagher, Gary Coleman, and several porn stars. California's Reality Distortion Field grows stronger every day.
2003-08-07 15:53 | User Profile
**[Russian accent]: "ahh, you miss point. Ahnold is vell-known Jew-pal. Ahnold vould do anyting da Jews vant. Pass any HoloSvindle or hate-crime legislation Jews vant. Any! Anysky! Ahnold is Good For Jews...
Now, vere my vodka...?" **
Oh shut the hell up Franco, mudak!
2003-08-08 19:10 | User Profile
It's BS like this that makes me absolutely despise the mainstream media. California's on the brink of disaster and the press is going to ignore all its problems and their causes and use this buffoon of a candidate to turn this whole thing into a media circus. Are there any damned adults left in this country?