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Thread ID: 8659 | Posts: 6 | Started: 2003-08-01
2003-08-01 15:04 | User Profile
This site was recommended by a friend and, while it may not dovetail with the ideas of the members of this board EXACTLY, shows a good example of cultural resistance by an ethnic population threatened with extinction.
[url=http://www.quebec-radical.com/]http://www.quebec-radical.com/[/url]
2003-08-01 17:51 | User Profile
Originally posted by prozak@Aug 1 2003, 15:04 * *This site was recommended by a friend and, while it may not dovetail with the ideas of the members of this board EXACTLY, shows a good example of cultural resistance by an ethnic population threatened with extinction.
[url=http://www.quebec-radical.com/]http://www.quebec-radical.com/[/url]**
I'm not sure exactly how Quebecian radicalism in practice and execution dovetails with ANY of the ideas of this forum, although there are the usual hints that it might. Although this site seems to (without reading French well its hard exactly to say)support some nationalistic things, in general Quebecian seperatism seems to have been guided by a left-wing sensibility that is completely compliant to Political correctness, and Quebec political culture and culture in general certainly seems to be as PC as any of its rivals. Even when an occasional anti-semitic or nativist statement crops up, it merely seems a oddity which never seems to gain any traction.
2003-08-01 18:05 | User Profile
Western Canadian separatism is a lot more reasonable. The Frenchies tend to be raging leftists.
Check it out:
Culture We believe in development and protection of a genuine national culture true to our existing European heritage and values. Multiculturalism has meant in the end cultural ghettoization, conflict and no culture at all. We can look to the history of our own Native American brothers and see the dangers of unrestricted immigration. To foster tolerance and understanding, unity of culture is essential. Capacity to voluntarily assimilate is a prerequisite to all new immigration. This is essential to avoid cultural and racial conflict.
Immigration Many people think that we are responsible for poverty in the third world. Although we owe a duty to try to assist where we can, poverty in the third world is not our responsibility. We did not create it and we cannot solve the problems of the third world by importing them in the form of immigration. Our responsibility is to care for and nurture the land entrusted to us and to use wisely the fruits of our endeavors to provide well for future generations. Immigration can result in Western Canada becoming just as crowded as the third world. Immigration policies need to reflect the wishes of Western Canadians, which today in Canada, are ignored.
United Nations and Internationalism We believe in freedom and non-interference in the national affairs of other countries. We do not believe the United Nations constitutes a real hope of world peace but of world government and ultimately international socialism which will eventually destroy private property and freedom. We believe that nations should function on the basis of mutual respect and enlightened self-interest. Western Canada will not be heavily involved in foreign aid. We will not be funding Marxist dictatorships or be involved in anything other than trade to the mutual advantage of ourselves and other nations.
Freedom Basically our view is that freedom means freedom from government. The Canadian view of government no matter what party is in power, involves more and more interventions in people's lives. We believe that freedom will be best enshrined by removing the power of government to legislate in certain areas and hence we would not be involved in human rights tribunals, language commissioners and other forms of state moralizing.
We would maintain the traditional fundamental freedom of speech, thought, belief and opinion. But all legislation over what people in voluntary associations of individuals choose to say, think, write short of actual advocacy of violence would be abolished. Freedom would be restored to the individual and groups' powers to impose their views would be reduced....
[url=http://www.westcan.org/westcan/principl.htm]LINK[/url]
Not perfect, but a lot better than Cretin's regime.
2003-08-01 23:21 | User Profile
I have read that [url=http://www.frontnational.com/]Jean-Marie Le Pen[/url] is looked on favorably by many Quebecois Nationalist. The Quebecois have done more to fight Multiculturalism Anglo Canadians.
2003-08-03 11:45 | User Profile
Originally posted by Okiereddust+Aug 1 2003, 19:51 -->
QUOTE (Okiereddust @ Aug 1 2003, 19:51 ) <!--QuoteBegin-prozak@Aug 1 2003, 15:04 * *This site was recommended by a friend and, while it may not dovetail with the ideas of the members of this board EXACTLY, shows a good example of cultural resistance by an ethnic population threatened with extinction. [url=http://www.quebec-radical.com/]http://www.quebec-radical.com/[/url]**
I'm not sure exactly how Quebecian radicalism in practice and execution dovetails with ANY of the ideas of this forum, although there are the usual hints that it might. Although this site seems to (without reading French well its hard exactly to say)support some nationalistic things, in general Quebecian seperatism seems to have been guided by a left-wing sensibility that is completely compliant to Political correctness, and Quebec political culture and culture in general certainly seems to be as PC as any of its rivals. Even when an occasional anti-semitic or nativist statement crops up, it merely seems a oddity which never seems to gain any traction. **
You are wrong, those guys are not lefties or multiracialist Quebeq separatists, They seem followers of the identitarian ideas (ethnobiologist ideas, seperatist ethnocentrism) from the Nouvelle Droiteôs writter Alain Benoist and National Revolutionary and NeoFascist ideas from several european groups like the NPD, Jeunesses Identitaires or the MSR.
PS: That Quebeq site is very similar to its French homologous site Granika [url=http://www.granika.org/index2.html]http://www.granika.org/index2.html[/url]
Faust
2003-08-03 17:30 | User Profile
Madrid burns,
Great Post. I do not know much about Quebecois Nationalism, but I did have such idea. As I said, I have seen some of them praise Jean-Marie Le Pen.
**They(these Quebecois Nationalists) seem followers of the identitarian ideas (ethnobiologist ideas, seperatist ethnocentrism) from the Nouvelle Droiteôs writter Alain Benoist and National Revolutionary and NeoFascist ideas from several european groups like the NPD, Jeunesses Identitaires or the MSR.
P.S. That Quebeq site is very similar to its French homologous site Granika [url=http://www.granika.org/index2.html]http://www.granika.org/index2.html[/url]**