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Okiereddust [OP]

2003-08-01 04:14 | User Profile

CAREERS-1

For release 07/27/03

CAREERS NOW:

U.S. SOIL: JOBS MADE HERE THAT STAY HERE

By Joyce Lain Kennedy

Tribune Media Services

DEAR JOYCE: My daughter's systems analyst job in IT (information technology) ended when her company moved her job offshore. My daughter also has a CPA credential. Would she be more likely to finish her working years by career changing into accounting? -- P.D.

Between IT and accounting, her opportunities may be brighter in accounting but even that isn't 100 percent sure. Keep reading.

DEAR JOYCE: In one of your recent columns you said that globalization is sending white-collar jobs offshore -- chip design, software programming, engineering, basic research, architecture, art and design, call centers, customer service, accounting, mortgage loans, insurance claims processing, banking statements, sales, medical and lab testing and management. I get it -- I've been there and watched my jobs go out with the tide.

I was trained as an aircraft mechanic and worked on small aircraft in the '70s. That industry was devastated by lawsuits so I moved to the airline industry. When airliners began to be flown to third-world countries for cheap mechanical repairs, I left that industry as I could see the handwriting on the wall. Then I went into computer support. I have a lost one help-desk job to Indian outsourcing; the help-desk job I am working now will likely go overseas within two years.

I am trying to find a career that won't be offshored.

Here's the key question: Does anyone have a list of occupations that seem safe from exporting? -- S.P.

No, not yet. "Safe" career choice is a complex research issue. I'm working on it and invite readers to pile on with suggestions for occupations to include on a "safe" list, which is of emerging interest to career changers and young adults struggling with life choices.

Today I offer criteria for choice, but first a brief background of this developing issue.

OUTS AND INS. White-collar jobs are being exported to nations where the work is done cheaper. This is happening to hundreds of thousands of jobs now, and soon will rise to millions of jobs that Americans will lose out on.

The current exodus of white-collar jobs is much like the late 20th Century migration of Rust Belt manufacturing jobs to Southeast Asia and Latin America.

A collateral, interrelated threat is the importation of a foreign workforce who will accept less pay. Yes, there are legal requirements that foreign visa workers receive the same rate of pay as that claimed by American workers but exploitation of loopholes in the law occurs regularly.

Visa workers now number in the hundreds of thousands but potential new fast-track trade agreements that dangerously set immigration policy could raise that number astronomically.

The exportation of jobs is called "offshore outsourcing," or, more briefly, "offshoring." Bringing in white-collar visa workers at lower pay can be called "onshoring."

NEW CRITERIA. Onshoring is not addressed in this column. But in choosing a career path to protect yourself from offshoring losses, consider these guidelines along with other values that are important to you.

  1. You are physically on site to interact with others -- hairdresser, food server, hotel manager, cleaner, children's librarian, classroom teacher, lawyer, nurse, attending physician, police officer, firefighter.

  2. Your primary workplace is the site -- plumber, infrastructure-building civil engineer, farmer.

  3. Your presence on U.S. soil is beneficial to employers, even in fields where a portion of the work is offshored via telecommunications -- bank manager, association manager, project manager, business analyst.

  4. You work for a government agency, although you may be assigned overseas -- lawmaker, security analyst, intelligence specialist, court judge, welfare caseworker.

  5. You develop an identity with American culture -- television news personality, sports team player, estate auctioneer.

GET WISE. Both ends of the political spectrum are waking up to offshoring and onshoring issues. Visit two Web sites:

**TechsUnite.org -- a labor union site for tech workers. Be sure to note the "Techworker Challenge," a video game, as well as the press clippings.

Eagleforum.org -- Phyllis Schafly's site. Don't miss the report, "What Global Economy Costs Americans" and her July 16 column, "Government Discrimination Against U.S. Citizens."**

E-mail career questions for possible use in this column to Joyce Lain Kennedy -- jlk@sunfeatures.com. Postal mail: Box 368, Cardiff, CA 92007. Joyce Lain Kennedy is the author of "Resumes for Dummies, 4th Edition."

© 2003 Tribune Media Services, Inc.


Okiereddust

2003-08-01 23:08 | User Profile

Originally posted by rban@Aug 1 2003, 15:55 * See? What's the problem? There are PLENTY of jobs that are safe from outsourcing...just pick one of them!!*

Too bad for you "internet troll" is not listed :P


Okiereddust

2003-08-02 00:15 | User Profile

Originally posted by rban@Aug 1 2003, 15:55 * See? What's the problem? There are PLENTY of jobs that are safe from outsourcing...just pick one of them!!*

Plenty of jobs sure.

Obviously one can see that real jobs, performed by real people doing real things, are going out the window. They're being "commoditized", and sent to Mexico or India.

To avoid becming a commodity, a person must act more like a manager - what people have a direct personal/political interest in my personna, as opposed to just my skill set.

Obviously people who do not think this way are the target of the managerial class's campaign of economic genocide against the American people. Of course if you don't like it you can always move out of the country to Mexico or India.


il ragno

2003-08-02 01:10 | User Profile

Bit by bit, behind the manufactured hoopla and Fox News cheerleading, the facade cracks, splits and dissembles in tatters. Lucky for ZOG they've already made the over-40 white population invisible - it'll be relatively simple to ignore them when they (we!) take the fullest brunt of the Economy That Suddenly Wasn't, as the media begins to train their focus on the career uncertainties of 25-year-olds and minorities. The 50-year-old Stuckey's assistant-manager will never register on the radar as a million and one 'investigative reports' will ask you to empathize with Jamaal and/or Inez, who - even with Uncle Sam picking up as many expenses as he can - will still be struggling to keep single-parent body and soul together for they five or six rugrats.

Quite a lot of OD sentiment has centered around "the worse it gets, the better it will be". I understand the thinking but I doubt it'll pan out in practice. Usually, the worse it gets, the worse it gets; and the school of thought that holds that penury is good for the soul, or builds character, or similar nonsense, is about to be discredited with a sickening thud, I think. If we need to wait for apocalypse to trigger an attack of common sense, we're pretty much doomed. Putting a band-aid on cancer is not gonna pull anybody's chestnuts out of the fire.


Centinel

2003-08-02 02:01 | User Profile

**Quite a lot of OD sentiment has centered around "the worse it gets, the better it will be". I understand the thinking but I doubt it'll pan out in practice. **

The sliver of hope may be that the workers affected by IT offshoring are educated, white middle-class folk who hopefully won't take it lying down. They may have enough clout and numbers to bring the issue to the forefront.

The thing that worries me most about offshoring is that without attrative career opportunities for Americans in technology, people will simply abandon the IT field and the nation's intellectual capital could dry up within a few years. Technology is inherently ethereal, an ever-moving target.

On the downside, the sheer numbers of people displaced during the manufacturing offshoring of the 70's and 80's were largely boomers. I'm not sure there are enough native Gen X/Y techies to make a large political impact.


Okiereddust

2003-08-02 13:33 | User Profile

Originally posted by il ragno@Aug 2 2003, 01:10 * Quite a lot of OD sentiment has centered around "the worse it gets, the better it will be". I understand the thinking but I doubt it'll pan out in practice. Usually, the worse it gets, the worse it gets; and the school of thought that holds that penury is good for the soul, or builds character, or similar nonsense, is about to be discredited with a sickening thud, I think. If we need to wait for apocalypse to trigger an attack of common sense, we're pretty much doomed. I'm sure you realize as much as anyone that the apocalyptic mode is basically identified with and is the defining characterstic of the NS ideology of the NA and similar groups, epitimized by books like the Turner Diaries*, and statements like

Putting a band-aid on cancer is not gonna pull anybody's chestnuts out of the fire.

I.e. yourself.

Unless I'm misunderstanding you. What exactly are you trying to say?


il ragno

2003-08-02 20:45 | User Profile

Did your head come pre-stuffed up your own ass direct from the factory? Or was it many years of painful aiming & thrusting that did the trick?


Okiereddust

2003-08-02 21:12 | User Profile

*Originally posted by il ragno@Aug 2 2003, 20:45 * ** Did your head come pre-stuffed up your own ass direct from the factory? Or was it many years of painful aiming & thrusting that did the trick? **

You speak as from personal experience :lol:


Roy Batty

2003-08-03 02:57 | User Profile

*Originally posted by il ragno@Aug 1 2003, 17:10 * ** Bit by bit, behind the manufactured hoopla and Fox News cheerleading, the facade cracks, splits and dissembles in tatters. Lucky for ZOG they've already made the over-40 white population invisible - it'll be relatively simple to ignore them when they (we!) take the fullest brunt of the Economy That Suddenly Wasn't, as the media begins to train their focus on the career uncertainties of 25-year-olds and minorities. The 50-year-old Stuckey's assistant-manager will never register on the radar as a million and one 'investigative reports' will ask you to empathize with Jamaal and/or Inez, who - even with Uncle Sam picking up as many expenses as he can - will still be struggling to keep single-parent body and soul together for they five or six rugrats.

Quite a lot of OD sentiment has centered around "the worse it gets, the better it will be". I understand the thinking but I doubt it'll pan out in practice. Usually, the worse it gets, the worse it gets; and the school of thought that holds that penury is good for the soul, or builds character, or similar nonsense, is about to be discredited with a sickening thud, I think. If we need to wait for apocalypse to trigger an attack of common sense, we're pretty much doomed. Putting a band-aid on cancer is not gonna pull anybody's chestnuts out of the fire. **

Oh, the worse it gets, the better it will be. We are headed for a complete collapse. From that, things will straighten out. But it will be bloody and hard, bloody hard. Maybe to the point of fighting the guys with the Mohawks for canned food. Seriously, yes, the worse things get, the worse they get. But a collapse weakens ZOG. Think about it. I don't think we'll so many streetlamps decorated with rope and stretched-neck elites as we will see those at the "top" making a run for the borders as everything crumbles into true chaos. Which is good for Whites in the end, as the infighting in the military is going to clean it up quickly, followed by the inevitable clean up of the streets. I don't romanticize this at all. But I am damned sure things are headed that way. How this affects the rest of the world is going to be quite a sight. When it will happen I am not sure. But far sooner than most think it will.

See ya' in a few days, hopefully.


Ragnar

2003-08-03 04:48 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Centinel@Aug 2 2003, 02:01 * ** The sliver of hope may be that the workers affected by IT offshoring are educated, white middle-class folk who hopefully won't take it lying down. They may have enough clout and numbers to bring the issue to the forefront.

**

Centinal,

I like slivers of hope too but I think Batty has this right.

When industry was heading to Mexico and Japan, autoworkers in Detroit figured it was a plot. They kept telling us that no way would educated Americans let "free trade" throw them out of work or stiff them out of a living wage.

They were wrong. Tech workers, nurses, even engineers have stood still and gotten mugged. They haven't gotten in into their heads yet that fragmented people are practicing salami tactics on themselves.

I mean, even the approach here is wrong. The above article is saying, "This is how YOU, deracinated American, can not get killed by the globalony that's destroying your standard of living". In a real country we'd discuss why a destructive policy is wrong for us, not how a few of us can maybe survive.

Until we decide our own survival is a priority, worse is better. Nothing else can seem to get anybody's attention.


Sisyfos

2003-08-03 05:13 | User Profile

Quite a lot of OD sentiment has centered around "the worse it gets, the better it will be". I understand the thinking but I doubt it'll pan out in practice. Usually, the worse it gets, the worse it gets…

I suppose it depends what one’s definition of “better” is. That things will get worse is a given, but what we don’t know is how countries, the US in particular, will cope: will they be able to contain the discontented rabble or will they cinder? For myself, it is only the latter scenario that brings with it the hope of “better.” My war aims have nothing to do with living standards. I speak in terms of better outlook for white survival with minimal dilution of white genotype.

I reason that once Aztlan (or equivalent) is realized, obstacles to white separation will loose their apparent legitimacy and the state will no longer command the resources necessary for forced enforcement of multiculturalism’s non-believers. The precedent will have been set. Doubtless habit and circumstance will force most whites to stay in multi-ethnic zones but passage of time, diminishing resources and declining living conditions will bring about even more ethnic pleasantries and facilitate revaluation in minds of more than just few. The maverick whites will see their numbers grow and with it so will the prospects of their progeny’s survival.

Things getting worse, sans impacting the internal stability multiculturalism worshipping states and their overlords is of course no improvement. The Brazil scenario is a nightmare. Such occurrence would mean that regardless of the extent of squalor around them the Occidental peoples have become so conditioned and befuddled that they are no longer salvageable.

I’ve said it before: pain is the ultimate in education. At present we are receiving only a tingling in the form of wide-scale job exports and massive immigration with its predictable impact on domestic wages. More stimuli will come by way of coping with the tens of trillions in unfounded liabilities. Throw in some oil and food shortages, and acts of terror and it’s possible that our pain receptors will get something of a workout.

Note that this is not intended to discourage any current proactive means with which to effect the desired changes. By all means, let education/counter-propaganda and infiltration of Inner Party domains proceed en mass. :gun:


madrussian

2003-08-03 05:22 | User Profile

Sysifos,

I see your point in that that once an "oppressed" minority like, for example, mestizos, take over a state and terminate the fake talk of multiculturalism and diversity (code-words for squeezing out whitey while whitey is still in majority) and claim everything to themselves (explicitly or by just crowding out whitey and showing little "tolerance" and "sensitivity"), the cattle will finally see that the whole talk of "equality", "diversity" and "multiculturalism" was just a facade and what really was happening was forceful redistribution of power and resources, and that the process wouldn't stop at the "honorable" goal of achieving some mythical "fairness", but would continue further. But that's only one possibe scenario. The other is something like Brazil.