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Thread ID: 8586 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2003-07-30
2003-07-30 08:41 | User Profile
"What we have to get at is that there should be in all the states of the world, besides ourselves, only the masses of the proletariat, a few millionaires devoted to out interests, police and soldiers" (From the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", Protocol No. 7).
Now a little bit of conspiracy theory. In 1991 it took an Army of 500.000 almost 2 months to conquer Kuwait and a small part of Iraq. In 2003, it took an army of 300.000 3 weeks to conquer the whole of Iraq. The US military is becoming increasingly a robotic army that is fighting with piloteless 'drones', cruise missiles and similar unmaned devices. The taxpayer is financing this conversion to the tune of 450 billion dollars per year. Why is ZOG investing all these resources to create a gigantic robotic army? Is it to decrease the casualties of the goyim army? Maybe, but as far as I know the system has an utter contempt fot the life of the goyim. I suspect there are ulterior motives, namely that a goyim army/police force, no matter how loyal, is nonetheless made of people who, under the right circumstances, might revolt and reverse ZOGs seemingly unassailable grip on power. A robotic army, on the other hand, is absolutely obedient and requires only minimum manpower. It would allow a small minority of the population (say, for example - 2.5 - 3 %) to tightly control the vast majority of the population. Of course, the control would never be as granular as ZOG desires (as seen in Iraq), but our 2-3% minority has a long history of living in luxurious ghettos, while others are starving. This way of life is aberrant to most of us but suits them just fine. To conclude, a little paranoic prediction: this vast robotic army will one day be used against the very taxpayer that is today so diligently footing the bill. To the "support our troops" crowd I would suggest this experiment: take a look at the pictures of Iraqui guerillas that confront daily this monster with AK47s and try to immagine, 15-20 years from now a White Nationalist somewhere in the Northwest with his AR-15 fighting a new and improved version of the same beast. Far fetched? Maybe, but to me a disturbing latin phrase springs to mind - "De nobis fabula narratur" (Their story is our story).
2003-07-30 14:07 | User Profile
**In 2003, it took an army of 300.000 3 weeks to conquer the whole of Iraq. ** Oh my, you don't really think we've "conquered" Iraq do you? Just because our dear soldiers are hiding out in fortifications in some of the big cities, ducking grenades from bridges (not always successfully), and "winning" "battles" of 200 against 4?
I suppose you think we've rebuilt Afghanistan too? ;) :P :D
2003-07-30 16:34 | User Profile
Rudel,
Great Post! Sadly one can only see the US government getting more evil.
2003-07-30 17:53 | User Profile
I think Rudel has been watching too many Discovery Channel documentaries about future warfare. The current techno-centric view of warfare that many hold is completely wrong!
Even this Airforce [url=http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/apj/apj02/sum02/vorsum02.html]article[/url] critiques the notion that unmanned drones will replace humans on the battlefield.
It begins with this interesting quote
"If a manââ¬â¢s trust is in a robot that will go around the earth of its own volition and utterly destroy even the largest cities on impact, he is still pitiably vulnerable to the enemy who appears on his doorstep, equipped and willing to cut his throat with a penknife, or beat him to death with a cobblestone. It is well to remember two things: no weapon is absolute, and the second of even greater import- no weapon, whose potential is once recognized as of any degree of value, ever becomes obsolete. " - J. M. Cameron
A good book to read is [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0714681326/ref=ase_gobk-168006-20/104-6299764-8920721?v=glance&s=books]Masters of War: Classical Strategic Thought[/url]. Author Michael I Handel gives a good critique of theories of so-called "Post-heroic warfare", that it where smart weapons fight as opposed to humans. He targets Edward Luttwak's theories(whose on of the biggest proponent of post heroic warfare). As Handel remarks
The assumption that high-tech weapons can replace ground troops or for that matter, all types of forces that involves taking casualties - has proven to be clearly wrong. It cannot be achieved under normal circumstances. Often it leads to half-measures in warfare.
Another good book to read is [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/052180079X/qid=1059587386/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-6299764-8920721]Dynamics of Military Revolutions 1300-2050[/url]. This contends that it is social/political factors, not technology alone, that makes the greatest transformations in the nature of war.
** The Great danger in coming years will be from commanders who put [u]too much[/u] reliance on technology and machines, and who assume they can go virtually anywhere because of their aircraft can always get them out if the situation gets dicey.
Bevin Alexander "How Wars are Won: the 13 Rules of War from Ancient Greece to the War on Terror" 2002, Pg 230**
Basically the Pentagon and its apologetics basically wants us to believe that a Revolution in Military Affairs(RMA) is coming about in that high-technology will soon reduce if not replace human involvement in wars. Yet many both in and out of the military are constantly exposing this as nonsense.
Heres a good website with all sorts of sources critiquing this so-called RMA [url=http://www.comw.org/rma/fulltext/second.html]http://www.comw.org/rma/fulltext/second.html[/url]
Even the Israeli military historian Martin Van Crevald is claiming that 21st century warfare will not be with robots but more with urban gangs armed with AKs. He details this out in many of his books but most of in [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0029331552/ref=ase_cyberhaven00/103-9938554-0327057?v=glance&s=books]The Transformation of War[/url]. Basically he argues that high-tech warfare like the World Wars will be mostly replaced by low-tech low intensity tribal/gang warfare. He points to as examples Bosina, Palestine, Lebanon, and one can Iraq right now. He has also written a book about [url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0029331536/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/103-9938554-0327057]technology and war[/url].
So this notion that humans are going to be replaced by machines is nowhere near universally accepted. Only corporate contractors and their Pentagon lackeys along with Discovery channel documentaries back this idea.
2003-07-31 08:02 | User Profile
*Originally posted by perun1201@Jul 30 2003, 11:53 * ** I think Rudel has been watching too many Discovery Channel documentaries about future warfare. The current techno-centric view of warfare that many hold is completely wrong!
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You might be right. But I was not as much interested in the use of these technologies in war. Rather I was interested in its potential use as an effective method of crowd control (goy-control) in the ensuing multikulti chaos in the US. In other words, to sustain the 'stratified society' of the future. The points I was trying to make are as follows:
One of the few protections (if not the only one) against the total Judeocratic tiranny in America is the fact that so many people own firearms.
Therefore, ZOG (at the great cost for the taxpayers) is developing a 'force multiplier' technology that, although not particularly effective against a guerilla warfare, might be used very effectively by a small minority (Jews and their stooges) that expects to live happily in their luxurious gated comunities amid an increasingly hostile and desperate majority.
Another aspect is their infatuation with 'decapitation attacks' (in Palestine, Iraq, Afganistan...) - a perfect match with this technology. It is a tactics that the communists experimented (with success!) among the POWs in Corea where everybody with even the remotest leadership skills was either completely isolatated from the others or physically eliminated in order to create a sheep-like, docile POW population. The same tactics wrought large can be greatly facilitated by the use of robotic warfare.