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Thread ID: 8471 | Posts: 9 | Started: 2003-07-26
2003-07-26 16:35 | User Profile
*Interesting article. I have traveled extensively overseas and I have observed that American women seem to be prone to ââ¬Åthe chipââ¬Â as Fred describes it. The Asian and European women I have met seem to be better mannered and more comfortable with their femininity. *
Take Horror. It's A Better Bet. Fred Reed 2003
[url=http://www.fredoneverything.net/Reimer.shtml]http://www.fredoneverything.net/Reimer.shtml[/url]
Were I to offer thoughts on marriage to young American men today, in these the declining years of a once-great civilization, my advice would be as follows: Don't do it. Or, if you do, do it in another country. In America marriage is a grievous error.
And why so? Because of The Chip. The Attitude. The bandsaw whine of anger, anger, anger that makes American women an international horror. It's there. It's real.
You, a young man, may not recognize the Chip if you have never seen normal, warm, happy women. If you are twenty-something and haven't been out of the US, you haven't seen them. They exist by the billion--in Latin America, Singapore, Taiwan, Malaya, China and, last I looked, France and Holland. And of course not every woman in America carries the Chip. None of them think they do. Yet it is the default, the usual, what comes out of the box.
The following is a perfectly ordinary, everyday, bulk-lot example, suitable for poisoning a cistern:
"Other than a 29-inch waist and a full head of hair, there isn't much to recommend the twentysomething maleââ¬Â¦He is living an extended adolescence -- an adult-olescence -- and every immature, irresponsible, self-absorbed thing he does is reinforced by the latest issue of his favorite men's magazine." (Susan Reimer, a columnist for the Baltimore Sun. I bet she goes out a lot.)*
Hers is the Attitude--and what they think of you. It is the defining trait of American women. Exceptions exist, and they have my apologies, but they are few and no, sport, your Sally probably isn't one of them. They're coiled to bite. As soon as problems arise in the marriage, they turn into Susan.
Susan Reimer is what is out there, guys: bitter that no one wants her (as who in his right mind could?), sure that no one is good enough for her, never having grasped that those who would be loved must first be lovable. Understand this: Susan is America. Some hide it better, springing it on you after the ceremony, but Susan is the rule.
The Susans do not like men. Sometimes they actually take courses in disliking men ("Women's Studies"). Yet they want to marry one and have babies. For them, the contradiction actually makes a kind of sense, because (and they know this, believe me) they will get the house, the children, and the child support. For you, it makes no sense. You will get raped in the divorce courts. You don't know how bad it is. Don't do it.
A prime effect of marriage is backbreaking financial overhead: the excessive house in the prestigious suburb, the pricey but boring cars, all that. But if you don't fall into the trap, keeping your expenses down means you can live in Alaska or overseas and enjoy existence. There is more to life than debt service. Although these are bad times for marrying, they are extraordinarily good times for being single.
Now, children. This is sticky. You may want them, or think you want them, or think you may want them. She wants them. My advice is to move to almost any country where English isn't spoken and women don't want their husbands to be the mothers of their children. Any country inhabited by the Chinese would do nicely.
Incidentally, remember that it is never now or never. Your prospects improve with time. At thirty-five or fifty you will be perfectly able to find a good woman if you know where to look. See above list.
Remember also that these are not good times for having children in America. It is almost irresponsible. The schools are scholastically poor, drug-ridden, given chiefly to political indoctrination, and hostile to male children. The universities are little better. Divorce is hell on children and their fathers, and nearly universal. The country lunges to police-statedom and isn't, I suspect, as stable as it might be. Worse, worst, there is Susan Reimer. Her name is legion, and she seeps everywhere, like the effluvium of unwashed socks.
Further, there is no social duty to have children. Some argue that the white population is in decline. Tough. If the country chooses to make having kids undesirable, then let it decline. It is not your problem.
Now, you might well wonder, why are American women carrying the Chip? Practically, it doesn't matter: They do carry it, and will continue. Still, it is partly because from birth they are fed the notion that they have been oppressed, battered, cheated, deprived, harassed, used as sex objects, not used as sex objects, on and on. Being rational, you are perhaps inclined to point out that never has a female population been less any of these things, but don't bother. It will have no effect. The Chip is an emotional artifact to which they respond emotionally.
The bedrock of The Attitude is that everything is the man's fault. Wonders Reimer, "What is the answer, especially if the 20- and 30-year-old male is such poor marriage material?" She does not wonder, "If I am such a grindingly awful termagant that men on three continents are crossing their legs and feeling queasy over my mere column, and won't come near me except in a Kevlar bathysphere with a disinfectant system, maybe I'm doing something wrong. Gosh. I wonder what?"
Yet something more is going on, though one does not easily see just what. Note that in recent decades we have seen the invention by women of bulimia and anorexia, which no one had heard of in 1965. Men made them do it. At roughly the same time women began getting breast implants, which men also made them do, and then suing about it. In the same period they began having induced memories of being raped or satanically abused by their fathers. Men again. The psychotherapy racket grew like kudzu, a sure sign of deep unhappiness over something.
All of this is recent. You have to be fifty to remember women who were resilient, sane, psychically strong and, within the limits of an often sorry existence, content. But whatever the answer, guys, the problem isn't yours.
Spend a year overseas, however you have to do it. For smart, classy, just plain glorious women who often speak English, try Singapore. Argentina is splendid. Many places are. You would be amazed. See what's out there before you marry a gringa with her Inner Susan, who will one day burst from her chest like one of those beaked space-aliens in the movies, dripping venom. They're death.
2003-07-26 17:02 | User Profile
Spend a year overseas, however you have to do it. For smart, classy, just plain glorious women who often speak English, try Singapore. Argentina is splendid. Many places are. You would be amazed. See what's out there before you marry a gringa with her Inner Susan, who will one day burst from her chest like one of those beaked space-aliens in the movies, dripping venom. They're death.
Is Fred a miscegenist or something? His love of Asians rivals Ares. And gringa? I wonder if ol' Fred ever used the term "sp*c" or "beaner" (or [u]any[/u] non-White ethnic slurs) in one of his columns? SIZE=1[/SIZE]
Also Argentina is one of the "Whitest" countries in South America.
2003-07-26 17:21 | User Profile
Is Fred a miscegenist or something? His love of Asians rivals Ares. And gringa? I wonder if ol' Fred ever used the term "spc" or "beaner" (or any non-White ethnic slurs) in one of his columns? (you can't use the word "spc" here, I know)
Fred has written some pretty politically incorrect stuff concerning race ââ¬â [url=http://www.fredoneverything.net/WhitenessStudies.shtml]http://www.fredoneverything.net/WhitenessStudies.shtml[/url]
But, yes, I would say that Fred does not disapprove of miscegenation.
But the interesting unstated point is how feminism has in many cases poisoned White male / female relationships. Feminism is pretty much a White, middle to upper class, American, phenomenon. African and Mexican women in this country seem not be as susceptible to the feminist ideology.
2003-07-26 17:49 | User Profile
But the interesting unstated point is how feminism has in many cases poisoned White male / female relationships. Feminism is pretty much a White, middle to upper class, American, phenomenon. African and Mexican women in this country seem not be as susceptible to the feminist ideology.
Yes. And who created feminism? Who could it be? Could it be, the...JEWS!!! The two major proponents of feminism were Jewish: Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem. Also, Jews pretty much run the universities, and write most of the textbooks. Since more White women than non-White women go to universities, they get indoctrinated with all this feminist :dung:
As more minority women start going to universities, the more they too will become indoctrinated with feminism. I've already seen a few articles written by Black and Hispanic feminists, whining about men.
I'm familiar with Fred Reed's columns, and I usually agree with him, especially those dealing with White/Black issues. (though he "doesn't name the jew" as some might say) And I know he has a 'thing' for Mexican women.
2003-07-26 20:07 | User Profile
{sigh} I wish I could say that it's not most American women who've been so badly brainwashed, but most HAVE. I, in defense of myself (recovered) and them (still in thrall), point out that the MEN who were SUPPOSED to have kept us under control dropped the ball -- let the jews take over and mislead the women (remember the serpent in the garden hiss hiss whisper?), and abdicated THEIR responsibility to protect and guide the womenfolk. I mean, come on, do you think the WOMEN decided to expand their nurturing instincts to include inappropriate objects (like everyone beyond their own family, tribe, race, nation, country!) and the women decided to "let" the men quit supporting them and their children?
Case in point: Hugh Hefner (half-jewish) did he or did he NOT maker acceptable to the general populace the concept of: 'boys, you don't have to grow up and be responsible for a woman and your children, just keep catting around with the pretty young blonde ones, and dump 'em when you're tired, there are lots more!" (Admit it, how many of you men give him a secret thumbs up for being a 70-yr-old dweeb with 6 blonde chickies pretending to love going to bed with him?!)
How many of you men were raised in "broken" families - where the your fathers found a younger better different model and dumped the 'old' wife and kids?
I suppose there's no end to the finger-pointing and accusing -- y'all think we're to blame; some of us legitimately think y'all are to blame; most of 'us' blame you men for specious and idiotic reasons (Reimer, Dr. Laura) and for tribal/destructive reasons (Steinem. et al.).
{shrug} I think it's hopeless unless each man finds "the right woman" and awakens her so he and she together raise a generation of "right-thinking" kidlets. (Well, of course, I think it's hopeless even if you DO, but it's worth a try!)
2003-07-26 21:31 | User Profile
Hefner is half-Zhid? Please tell! Do you have a URL?
2003-07-26 23:34 | User Profile
Originally posted by Franco@Jul 26 2003, 15:31 * Hefner is half-Zhid? Please tell! Do you have a URL?*
Franco,
Avalanche asked me about HH this morning, and I thought my clear memory was of a TV bio on him that said that he was half-and-half.
But everything on Google says his parents (Glenn and Grace) were conservative Protestants/Methodists. Have to withdraw this one for now.
2003-07-27 02:12 | User Profile
*Originally posted by nikolai@Jul 26 2003, 16:35 * ** Some argue that the white population is in decline. Tough. If the country chooses to make having kids undesirable, then let it decline. It is not your problem.
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I suppose it's a good thing that Fred gets this little point out in the open. But he frames it as "old man's advice to young men" which it isn't. Young men are much more likely to come to this conclusion on their own. Boys, especially white ones, are under massive pressure these days and I think they saw this situation way before Fred.
But it's good he said it.
2003-07-29 23:49 | User Profile
Avalanche,
You are right, Hefner has done our culture a lot of damage.
Case in point: Hugh Hefner (half-jewish) did he or did he NOT maker acceptable to the general populace the concept of: 'boys, you don't have to grow up and be responsible for a woman and your children, just keep catting around with the pretty young blonde ones, and dump 'em when you're tired, there are lots more!" (Admit it, how many of you men give him a secret thumbs up for being a 70-yr-old dweeb with 6 blonde chickies pretending to love going to bed with him?!)
more on Susan Reimer:
The Useless Young Male Blame the victim nonpareil [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?showtopic=9603]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...?showtopic=9603[/url]