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Thread ID: 8434 | Posts: 8 | Started: 2003-07-25
2003-07-25 04:54 | User Profile
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2003-07-25 12:58 | User Profile
**Raina: The problem is that these genetic differences don't correlate even remotely with the "racial" lines drawn by WNs. ** And you can tell that before the testing is even done?! WOW! Have YOU sequenced all the haplotype groups?! WHY haven't you TOLD anyone yet?!
Have you ALSO solved the medical problems of the different RACES metabolizing and reacting to drugs and painkillers DIFFERENTLY, but reliably and manageably AS A GROUP ?!
2003-07-25 15:08 | User Profile
Maybe I'm a cynic, but I think that any results that conflict with PC orthodoxy will simply be quashed or explained away. That's all the easier to do when you're trying to explain haplotypes, SNPs, RFLPs and even something as simple as Mendelian segregation of genes to a public that can be reliably counted upon to be confused by the blinking 12:00 on their VCRs.
Even though he was eventually vindicated, the fact that he was right didn't do Galileo any good, did it? Racial genetic differences have been known for centuries without making a dent in the current mess we have, and I fail to see how research that far less than 1% of the public can even begin to understand will make an appreciable difference. Besides, none of the scientists doing the work have control of CBS, NBC, etc. you know? Racial differences and healthy reactions thereto seem to have had and instinctive basis in most humans. While we were better off then, the whole 20th century has been one long conditioning exercise designed to convince people to ignore those instincts and again, I doubt some eggheads' ivory tower fartings and blatherings (though I myself find them interesting) will even do anything.
2003-07-25 20:29 | User Profile
In considering the ââ¬Åone race of humanââ¬â¢sââ¬Â idea, I donââ¬â¢t believe it. If we deem humans to be of one ââ¬Åraceââ¬Â or ââ¬Åbreedââ¬Â, then correspondingly, there should only be one ââ¬Åraceââ¬Â or ââ¬Åbreedââ¬Â of cattle. They can all intermix without creating hybrids, so all cattle must have somewhat the same genes.
When I was in the ranching business, I decided to go more into cross-bred cattle, Angus X Brahma. I already had some part Brahmaââ¬â¢s, and they were hardy and pretty much trouble free in the calving department. So, I made a trip to Texas to buy some pure bred Brahma bulls.
Now, a short bit of information on cattle lifestyles based on observation. The pure Angus cows would run together, the Herefords, the cross breeds, and so on. Their groups came into water together, went to graze together, and one cow in the herd would ââ¬Åbaby sitââ¬Â for the rest of the cows in her group.
The really unusual part was the behavior of the new Brahma bulls. After the bullsââ¬â¢ introduction into the herd, they would seek out the cows that had the highest percentage of Brahma blood to service first, then the cows with lesser Brahma blood and so on down the line. The last ones to be taken care of were the Angus- Hereford crosses. This was readily apparent by the timing of the births the following year.
Cattle are dumb animals. But, if those bulls could tell the difference between creatures of their own stock, and they definitely did, why canââ¬â¢t so called ââ¬Åintelligentââ¬Â humans?
2003-07-25 21:24 | User Profile
I read somewhere that one of the reasons no one is accepting this is because the insurance companies would use the findings to discriminate. Now that's what I heard. Myself, I believe in genetic differences and believe that it should be talked about and accepted.
By the way, has anyone heard that the genome was put together by including ALL races? Then quite recently, some scientists decided to put a genome together of only blacks.
Lady
2003-07-25 23:28 | User Profile
[color=purple]'Cattle are dumb animals. But, if those bulls could tell the difference between creatures of their own stock, and they definitely did, why canââ¬â¢t so called ââ¬Åintelligentââ¬Â humans ?'[/color]
Any jewish cattle to mislead them ? ;)
[color=purple]'In that instance, pc imperative 1 (protect people of color) was placed in direct competition with pc imperative 2 (so called 'racial difference' is a social construct only). It was alarming to realize that there actually are a lot of people who can square that particular circle, and, frankly, that an even larger number were willing to let blacks suffer and die rather than take public damage to imperative 2.'[/color]
According to Henry-Louis Mencken, there are two kinds of leftwingers : jackals (leaders) and jackasses (voters). The jackals KNOW about race differences. That's why they are promoting immigration, after the bosses of big companies had immigrunts come to lower wages. (Now our wages are too low to buy their products, they should have read Henry Ford). Communism and class fight having been the failure it deserved to be, jackals wanted truly inferior people to replace workers, so as to continue to make money in being go betweens ; is it also Mencken who said approximately "politics is the art of taking haves' money in pretending to protect them from have nots while taking have nots' money pretending to protect them from haves" ? So, more knowledge on races gap won't help much, jackasses being jackasses, I am afraid.
The solution I see for us in France is a cut between socialists and muslims. Anywhere, parasites will be increasingly in conflict with one another.
Please note I haven't put women in the same basket than immigrunts, although the same schema can apply : they were first used to lower men's wages by bosses, then feminism came as a doctrine pretending women were exploited, needing the same jackals go betweens, because I see 2 differences : we still need women to deliver children for ca. 1 century, some are loveables! :P
[color=red]Ein Blut, ein Boden, ein Lebensborn.[/color]
2003-07-25 23:57 | User Profile
*Raina:* Also, the genetic variations don't change the fact that there's only one human subspecies (race) today. These tiny variations aren't indicative of racial divisions, but mild genetic diversity within the same subspecies.
That's right. And in the spirit of "everyone is the same; 'race' as used by white nationalists is a social construct based around extremely minor genetic variants", we're sending you to Uganda to live among your co-subspeciesists. Enjoy! Remember, they're not [url=http://images.ogrish.com/2003/237/237_3.jpg]incurably dumb violent rapacious savages[/url] (NWS), they're like your brothers and sisters.
Back to the topic at hand, MadScienceType is right. Hundreds of years of research into the empirical, physical, statistical differences between the races was thrown out the window as "incorrect, old, racist dogma" by a couple of popular books written by jews. Further scientific proof is going to sway noone.
2003-07-28 14:57 | User Profile
I'm not disagreeing that further empirical evidence of racial differences, genetic and otherwise, is a good thing, but I'm arguing that, in the real world, it's not going to make any difference in terms of the struggle to get Whites to stand up for their group interests.
People still have the instincts that cause them to favor their own group, while avoiding "others." White flight is a perfect example of these continuing instincts. The simple fact is, however, that the past century has seen seen the emergence of a society that punishes, either through direct action or social sanction, anyone acting on those instincts (Whites only, of course). Therefore, while the instincts are still there, Whites have internalized the process of thinking one thing, while saying and doing another. (Didn't Solzhenitsyn have a term for this process?) The perfect parable is of course "The Emperor's New Clothes." My point is that empirical data, while fascinating by itself, will not rouse Whites from their lethargic state, especially since most will not begin to understand such data. Besides, any "truth" is interpreted for and dispensed to the masses through approved priests of PC orthodoxy, gov't funded scientists.
Nope, nope, nope. Since the aversion to minorities is visceral/instinctive, so must the validation and promotion of those instincts be visceral. Whites need to see and know that they are not alone in their feelings and instincts. This need to be part of a group is also instinctive, of course, but the atomization of our society into masses of rootless individuals was likewise a brilliant strategy in the "we are all one race" march to Hell. Given that, I agree that the internet is a great thing and an eminently useful tool, but if we are ever to make the transition from the electronic ether to the plane of real-world effects, we need the equivalent of the child in the fable pointing out that the Emperor is buck naked.
That, to me, was the most disappointing thing about the Moran affair. Everyone saw how quickly he crawfished, and internalized that much more of a sense of being powerless and alone. We need a leader, obviously, who will stand up and state the truth loud and clear, while damning the torpedoes and all. I know, easy for me to say while posting anonymously on the net, but it doesn't change the facts a whit.
The tiniest pebble can start a huge avalanche and I think that the smallest bit of positive, visceral reinforcement will have a most profound effect on the White psyche, and this is also the reason that the slightest dissent or deviance from PC orthodoxy must be, and is, met with the most swift and severe reactions. The yehoodis simply have no other choice because they're as well aware of the facts as we are.
So, we need a leader, preferably more than one to be the nail(s) that stand up and take ZOG's hammer blows with a smile. Who knows who that is? But, I will tell you, that as the situation becomes increasingly untenable for Whites, that person will emerge. After all, if "freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose," then by that standard, Whites are becoming more free every day.