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Thread ID: 8421 | Posts: 7 | Started: 2003-07-24
2003-07-24 20:31 | User Profile
Show of hands, please. Is there anyone who still thinks it was a good idea for Marc Moran to flex his internet johnson and shun using a pseudonym?
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**[font=Impact][SIZE=3]Moran Cops a Sunday On the NA & VNN[/font][/SIZE] ...by Morgan Kashden
[color=red]What a wonderful mess! The National Alliance is fading fast in this duke-out of a brawl that surrounds the whole Marc Moran and Bill White affair. We figure it to be in the 8th round with the National Alliance behind by at least three points. Morgan Kashden is ringside and has the best perspective on the fray. Regardless how it all ends up, all the Nazi's lose - blackened eyes, bloddy noses and the cuts that just won't stop bleeding.
Life is really funny. You go along in your usual routine, day-in and day-out. You have a few little fits and starts, but nothing major. Then, all of a sudden, there is a period where nothing seems to go right. If you are lucky, these don't happen too often or last too long. And if you are really, really lucky you have a time when all is right with the world. We are having such a time right now. And it is glorious! The Creativity Movement (f/k/a The World Church of the Creator) has choked on its own sputum. Right-wing racist activity has fallen under the umbrella of "Domestic Terrorism" and is being thwarted at every juncture. And now the entire "movement" is in absolute and delightful disarray and chaos!
The National Alliance has become nothing more than a "clearing house" for propaganda and is not doing well. As many of us predicted, the death of their beloved William Pierce spelled the death of the organization. With leadership that is virtually invisible and nothing but marketing strategy going on at headquarters - members are disillusioned and dropping like flies. But, the really stupendous news is that at this moment the disdain and hatred of those on the far right is being directed at each other. In short, they are in a brawl - and it is excruciatingly beautiful! Let's hope they inflict the maximum amount of damage as possible on themselves.
The words and accusations have been flying around ever since the Alliance ousted Roper. But it wasn't until the last couple of weeks that the gloves came off. The appointment and week-later ousting of Marc Moran to the City Council in Hopewell Burough, New Jersey threw all of them into a frenzy and it wasn't long before the truth emerged and the fingers started pointing.
Marc Moran was a member of the National Alliance who was appointed to fill a vacant seat on the City Council of Hopewell Burough, New Jersey. Within a week of his appointment, he was outed as an NA member and asked to resign. At first he refused, but public pressure became too much. It was really puzzling to many when Moran claimed that he had no idea of the Alliance agenda, stating that he only joined because of their stance on illegal immigration and Freedom of Speech. He told a local news outlet that he "fully supports racial diversity." How could someone not know that the National Alliance was virulently anti-Semitic, racist, favors a white homeland and advocates genocide? He knew. Oh, how he knew!
In order to join the National Alliance you must read and accept their Program and their Goals, and you must have no "ineligibilities." That being set aside, however, it seems that Marc Moran is a man of means - considerable means. It seems that Moran was a very respected and valued member of the National Alliance and the neo-Nazi movement in general. Why? For one thing, he put his money where his mouth was - and we all know how the Alliance loves money.
Moran, who claims to be a patriotic American, an Army veteran and the President of First Choice Financial in Cherry Hill, has done a considerable amount of writing for the National Alliance and Vanguard News Network - a heinously hateful internet publication run by Alex Linder. In fact, earlier this year, Marc went to Lewiston, Maine with National Alliance members to distribute literature and recruit members due to a growing number of Somali immigrants relocating in the area. Moran wrote an essay about his trip entitled "Drive," and that essay was published on "Savelewiston.com" - a National Alliance site. Excerpts from "Drive" tell a whole different story than the one Marc Moran tried to offer:
"Unfortunately, a certain ethnic minority who fancy themselves a chosen people' with all the answers for thelesser people' of the planet, have decided that Maine will have a new "multiracial" population in which Whites are just another minority, and where White European culture no longer dominates.
"Despite what the Jewish Supremacists think, we White people have every right in the world to take whatever steps are necessary to maintain our cultural dominance and majority status in the country that our forefathers pioneered. Join the fight. Contact us today!
"We may not ever see the day when our people have a place free of the intrusive and destructive elements that plague us today.
"We may never experience the kind of community that exists when a single people with a unified culture and homeland enjoy the benefits of shared values, but for a brief moment, in the town of Lewiston, Maine, we experienced just that." (compliments of NJ.com)
On a Maine Indy Media board, the resurgence of hate group activity was being debated and Moran responded in the following manner:
"I am spending obscene amounts of my considerable wealth, not to buy crap and send overseas, but to support organizations like the National Alliance in your town.
"You can name-call all you like, but you cannot offer a logical and rational defense for your actions. There is no intelligent opposition to White Nationalism. You will have to face the facts, sooner or later, that because of decades of enforced diversity, criminal open border policies and the promotion of illegitimate ideologies based on feelings instead of rational thought, that you are no longer facing illiterate . . . rednecks.
". . . We don't live in trailers and compounds either - we live next door and we're coming."
Moran claims to be "racially aware" a euphemism for "racist" that is currently being widely used by White Nationalists and neo-Nazi's. And on the same Maine message board, NJ.com attributes the following post to Moran:
You are correct about one thing; respectable, monied professionals are the most active and effective `racists' because we do not have to fear losing our jobs, we own the companies. We do not have to fear being exposed to the leaders of our communities. We are the leaders of our communities. We do not have to fear how we are perceived by our families, our neighbors and our co-workers because they already know what kind of character we possess.
"We do not have to fear the minorities in our neighborhoods, because we are smart enough and resourceful enough not live in place (sic) where minorities live. We have power and we intend to use it to liberate the stereotypical `poor whites' as you so dismissively refer to them and give them back the posterity that has been stolen from them by the liars and frauds who want nothing more than to see the White race dispossessed and bred out of existence."
Later, he writes: "Deeds maketh the man . . . not rhetorical flourishes. And remember, no matter what you say about a `Nation of Immigrants' you cannot dipute (sic) this fact; not a single Jew or Black or Asian or Mexican signed the Declaration of Independence."
He signed the post: "We are coming, either way and you will simply have to, as you are so fond of saying, tolerate it. Embrace that diversity.">
One would be right to conclude that Marc Moran is not only a racist - but a liar who was caught and exposed and then tried to weasel his way out. One would also be correct in concluding that the National Alliance and the entire "White Movement" has been left by Mr. Moran with egg all over their faces. Scores of racists across the web are questioning how someone as devoted as Marc Moran appeared to be to the racist cause could fold so quickly and in such abject cowardice. Not only did Moran step down from his appointed seat - he resigned from the whole ball of wax. The following comments made by Moran to various news outlets have caused many racists, including some of his supporters, to turn on one another and to lament their loss
From NJ.com:
"I took my membership card and I put it in an envelope and I mailed it back to them." (Speaking of his National Alliance Membership).
"I'm done. I've renounced this organization. The things (about the group) I disagree with far outweigh the things I do agree with." (Speaking of the National Alliance)
"You (reporters) brought up things I didn't know about the organization," Moran said recently. "I'm ashamed that I didn't fully investigate the group before joining." "I was searching for answers to questions we all had. But the National Alliance was not the answer. I see that now."
"I've said things I regret. I've been shown things that I regret writing," he said. "I was not only shown those things, I've had my face ground into them."
Of course, the racist right is enraged and cannot understand why Moran did not stand firm in his beliefs. But, if there still remain some who are willing to give Marc Moran the benefit of the doubt as to his involvement, the rest of the story is yet to be told.
While Moran did a little dance and took three steps back claiming not to have known what kind of an organization the National Alliance was, he also claimed that he had never noticed the Vanguard News Network logo "No Jews. Just Right." That seemed odd at the time of his claim - but now, it is no longer odd, it is simply a bold faced prevarication. As it turns out, Marc Man-Of-Means Moran financially backed Vanguard News Network and eventually became Publisher of the site. Moran was paying all of the bills, according to sources in the movement. During his time at VNN, Moran contracted with one Bill White of Overthrow.com to do some upgrading on the site. Yes - that is the same Bill White that Citizens Against Hate has been dogging for awhile. As soon as White came on board, VNN rapidly became anti-National Alliance in its publishing's. There is nothing very shocking about that given the fact that Bill White has been extremely opposed to the Alliance's Kevin Alfred Strom. It is puzzling, however, that Moran, an Alliance member, was footing the bills for a site that attacked his organization - puzzling that is, unless Moran had the same dislike for Strom as White.
On Thursday, July 17, 2003, amidst the turmoil and questioning that was taking place among the Nazi's over Moran's resignation and disavowing all allegiance to the movement, Bill White announced that when Moran pulled out of all things white, he transferred VNN to him. Given the fact that Bill White is given to grandiose embellishments of the truth and outright lying, it was understandable that he became the brunt of a few nasty comments and a lot of laughter. The racists all gathered at the VNN forums and began to taunt him and curse him while stating over and over that they wanted to hear it from Alex Linder. Apparently, Linder was out of town for the weekend so no affirmation or negation of White's control was forthcoming. In true bellicose fashion, White attempted to defend himself - but they were having none of it. Ranting and shouting and finger-pointing was the order of the day.
The weekend ended and there was no word from Linder and the outcry over Bill White's stated control over Vanguard News Network had been turned up to full volume. One of the real sticking points was a "Terms of Agreement" that White had posted to govern "Shop White," an ebay type of online service for whites only that is part of VNN. The TOA is really pretty funny and gives free rein to White to do what ever he wishes with information and credit card account numbers. Unable to stop the onslaught, White went into a rant accusing those who were posting against him as being sent there by Kevin Alfred Strom. On Monday, July 21st, White could tolerate no more. He published an article, supposedly written by an "LSN Reader," and we all know how Bill likes to write letters to himself, and posted it on Overthrow. That article gave the real names of some National Alliance members.
I have written much about Bill White. I have characterized him as the egomaniacal narcissistic person that he is. I have addressed his continuous attempts to reinvent himself and his pathological need to fit in. I never dreamed that someday I would be saying "Thank You" to Bill White - but I am doing just that. I know that the last thing that White wants at this point in time is thanks from me - but, hey, I'm just that kind of guy! What has ensued is the stuff I dream of - the almost complete decimation of the National Alliance and Vanguard News Network. What more can an anti-racist hope for?
White Nationalists and neo-Nazi's are really not too crazy about being publicly outed. There are some who use their real names - those are generally the ones who make their living largely from their organizations, however. Marc Moran lamented the use of his real name in his day to day writings and activities for the Alliance. Others site their jobs, communities and families as reasons not to be identified. For most of us, that is hard to understand. We are generally proud of our organizations and our affiliations with them. But, if you are part of a movement which advocates separation or genocide of other races, violent governmental overthrow or hate crimes - I guess you would be a little more circumspect about announcing your allegiances than if you were a tree-hugger. The racists were both stunned and infuriated. They have been digging up all of the information on Bill White that they can find. Of course, they had already seen him as a quirky little pest who played at being "pro-white," and who with much of his writing was prone to lies and half-truths. But now they are questioning his ethnicity - that is usually what they do when they can't do anything else. Most of those who had been supportive of White, or attempting to assert some calm over a potentially explosive situation, are now incensed by White's actions. Truly laughable in this entire epic of sleaze is that they are questioning White's integrity and character. We have been trying to tell these people for a very long time that if you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. When people of the ilk of these racists become outraged, it is always with such intensity and the outrage is always "morally" based. I guess that the old adage "what you hate in others is often what you hate most about yourself," more than fits in this situation. Perhaps I should clue them in that there is no honor among thieves or racists.
Still awaiting word from Alex Linder, the Nazi's rage. And the latest from Bill White is a claim that Kevin Alfred Strom is about to be ousted from the National Alliance. If there is any validity to White's claim then we would almost have to look at other claims that are being thrown around. The National Alliance is in total disarray, and that is pretty well known. Since the death of William Pierce, it has been obvious that the Alliance was the least of anyone's worries. Erich Gleibe, the head of the organization, seems almost invisible as he strives to fly under the radar of the current crackdown on domestic terrorists. And his leadership abilities are under heavy scrutiny. Rumor has it that a major shake-up is forth-coming. Of course, as long a Bill White keeps the heat on, and as long as the Nazi's are tearing each other up, there won't be much left to shake. The name that keeps coming to the forefront is that of Fred Streed who has been with the National Alliance since its inception.
The battle rages and the Nazi's are self-destructing. Some of the newer members to the movement are pulling out and citing all of the dissention and back-stabbing as the reason. Others are questioning the movement's viability and future. And we at Citizens Against Hate are basking in the knowledge that whether this spells the death or decline of the movement or not - it has at least opened some eyes to true character of those involved. Optimistically, I truly believe that the National Alliance is doomed to simply fade away. Realistically, I truly believe that it will be replaced with another perniciously sleazy group - and we had better be prepared. There is no honor among these people. They are devoid of integrity and character. And when they expose themselves as they are now - they show us all that the future would hold if ever they became mainstream.[/color]**
In case you need more, a photo of Moran is included in the story.
2003-07-24 21:10 | User Profile
The whole Marc Moran thing has been awful, a mess. A black eye on the entire WN movement.... :angry:
2003-07-24 22:45 | User Profile
That sites alexa ranking is 1,437, 092. Maybe he should change the name from www.citizensagainsthate.com to www.citizenagainsthate.com [url=http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=www.citizensagainsthate.com]http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=www....againsthate.com[/url]
2003-07-25 01:02 | User Profile
WMute: I don't know.... he pissed a lot of people off... he has to re-prove himself first. If he mends all bridges and ties, then maybe, but not until.
2003-07-25 06:22 | User Profile
Well, now that he's gone from 'who?' to a fixed name, face and place of business, Marc Moran would have to be crazier than a shithouse rat to keep posting as 'Marc Moran', whether here or anywhere else.
He may very well resurface but we'll never know it, since this time he's bound to finally pick up the "Yehoodi Blowfish" habit as protective coloration. Can you imagine the new round of assaults if Moran began posting again on boards like this? He's just become The Man Who Wasn't There.
The sad thing is I don't think a disappearing act's gonna cuthim any ice with the Kashdens and Foxmans and their wind-up clockwork goys. After all, why did the scorpion sting the frog anyway, even after the frog ferried him across the stream?
2003-07-25 15:05 | User Profile
Actually, as WN imbroglios go, this isn't so bad. Klansmen have been known to burn each other's houses down, and George Lincoln Rockwell was assassinated.
The real problem here is that White has been lent a kind of legitimacy by assuming control of VNN - well, that's what he claims, and Linder does not deny it. Marc hurt us pretty bad with this bit of very poor judgement.
2003-07-25 15:38 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Jul 24 2003, 14:31 * Show of hands, please. Is there anyone who still thinks it was a good idea for Marc Moran to flex his internet johnson and shun using a pseudonym?*
I donââ¬â¢t think Moran, as a specific individual, should have used his name because he has proven himself unfit for the rough and tumble of politics. Look at Ed Toner and the way he handles scum. Moranââ¬â¢s no Toner so he should have remained in the background with the rest of the foot soldiers.
As to anonymity, the problem lies not with a man using his real name but where he uses it. To anyone who confuses VNN with actual politics - Bill White has a bridge heââ¬â¢d like to sell you. Bottom line: there is no ââ¬ËYehoodi Blowfish esquireââ¬â¢ on Burnley council. BNP councillors and campaigners consist of normal people out in the real world talking to other normal people. Where is America's BNP?
American White nationalism needs to grow the hell up, put on a shirt and tie and get its ass out on the street. Iââ¬â¢ve canvassed a little in my time, before becoming a White nationalist inactivist, and Iââ¬â¢ve found the greatest single challenge facing us is not a Mossad hit squad but indifference - not only in the Sheeple but among the awoken too. Leadership is desperately required and it not going to come from ââ¬ËYehoodi Blowfishââ¬â¢.