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Thread ID: 8399 | Posts: 12 | Started: 2003-07-24
2003-07-24 05:10 | User Profile
California Gov. recalled: More GOP nonsense! GOP abuses recall system.
The Neocon may take Gov. Gray Davis and replace him with a Pro-"wetback" Neocon. What's the point!
**Reuters
California to Hold Recall Vote on Governor (6:29 pm PDT) -- California officials said on Wednesday they had verified enough voter signatures to force an unprecedented special election to determine whether unpopular Gov. Gray Davis will keep his job. -- The Secretary of State's office said it had certified well above the threshold of 897,158 voter signatures needed to put a popular no-confidence vote on the governor onto a ballot to be held as soon as September.
[url=http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3147059]http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=...storyID=3147059[/url] **
2003-07-25 04:50 | User Profile
I think it will shock the govt. to remove Davis who's a corrupt and stupid man. But as you note, the replacement probably won't be any better. The powers that be will make sure that the "right" person gets elected. The entire legislature needs replacing. It's full of Jewish communists and their fellow travelers of the wetback and black variety. Most Whites just go along because they don't want to be accused of "racism."
2003-07-31 15:11 | User Profile
Richard Riordan to replace Davis?
FLASHBACK -- Orange County Register -- January, 2002 Riordan supports amnesty for invaders, may run to replace Davis [Note: Local news broadcasts in L.A. predict Riordan will announce soon now that Schwarzenegger is pulling out of the recall race]** -- Irvine, Calif. -- 1/2/02 -- Richard Riordan emerged as the only top Republican gubernatorial contender to support amnesty for undocumented immigrants when the three major GOP candidates appeared Friday at a Hyatt Irvine forum co-sponsored by Hispanic 100 and the Lincoln Club of Orange County...
[url=http://www.americanpatrol.com/CALIFORNIA/ELECTION/2004/RIORDAN/Dick4Amnesty020126.html]http://www.americanpatrol.com/CALIFORNIA/E...esty020126.html[/url]
Richard Riordan [url=http://www.americanpatrol.com/FEATURES/020305-RIORDAN-RECONQUISTA/Feat-RiordanFlake020305.html]http://www.americanpatrol.com/FEATURES/020...lake020305.html[/url] **
2003-08-01 09:38 | User Profile
Replacing Davis will of course accomplish absolutely nothing about the swarming Third World masses breeding like locusts in California much less the "free traitors" destroying our economy.
2003-08-01 15:59 | User Profile
**California Faces an Ugly Spectre International Politics
A gun-grabbing, liberal actor (Arnold Schwarzenneger) or a gun-grabbing proven traitor (Gray Davis). A sad State of affairs.
[url=http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1148]http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=Ne...rticle&sid=1148[/url]**
2003-08-06 23:15 | User Profile
Steal California (7/31)
It's an operation can only be activated by an organization with large resource.
1) No one has such determination to do this just 4 months after the Governor being re-elected unless it has an urgent motivation.
2) Though Republican like to see Davis losing the post of Governor, they also worry about a backlash by voters. They lack of the motivation.
3) A swift and effective movement to collect 1.7 million of signatures show that it was done by a well organized and experienced group. Which has rich financial and manpower resource.
4) Some activists with a dirty background. Issa, the man started the recall, was fined for gun possession, faced theft charge. He had a string of youthful brushes with the law that include allegations of stealing cars and once set fire to his car-alarm business. Davis camp also complained some people worked to collect signatures with criminal record so tainted petition. We know Federal agents used to manipulate gang member and criminals to work for them.
5) The group behind the scene has rich resource in judicial system. Though Davis camp filed suits in court to halt the recall, they suffered setbacks both in Sarcamento and Los Angles counties. The suits were rejected within days, a very efficient procession in judicial system.
6) The group behind the scene has rich resource in media. Mercury News, so said a "liberal media", propagand on recall with first page, pages of articles, stories such like "The pay only $7 yearly in car tax, which will increase to $20 under Gov. Gray Davis' proposed budget." hinted Davis will be ousted.
7) The group behind the scene also has big influence in Democratic Party. Though Davis is in inferior position. No other Demo came out to run the election. This is incredible. Which means they'll give up the position to their rivals without campaign.
8) My experience is media is in stronghold of intelligence. Early this year, a TV station announced one of their colleague would leave to work in a county election office. I had a feeling then they'll move their resource to control the election office for 2004. Now it seems they are preparing for an early election.
California is a camp of Democratic Party. With a sudden attack, I expect a patsy of intelligence will steal it. Which will enable intelligence easier do any commitment. But also US democracy will fall further into a covert totalitarianism.
2003-08-21 01:59 | User Profile
Development of California recall
For my comment in "147. Steal California (7/31)" 7) The group behind the scene also has big influence in Democratic Party. Though Demo has Lt. Cov. Bustamante join in the competition, he is less populated and general opinion is he would lose to Schwarzenneger. The only choice which Demo. can win over Reps., Senator Feinstein stayed out. The respond of Democrats is weak and confusing.
6) The group behind the scene has rich resource in media. It' s obvious when we saw the topic is around Arnold in talk show, TV and newspaper. Push Schwarzennegger's population to a peak.
5) The group behind the scene has rich resource in judicial system.Supreme Court denied Governor Gray Davis' bid to delay voting, cleared the way of recall in 10/7.
"I expect a patsy of intelligence will steal it. Which will enable intelligence easier do any commitment."
Nobody is more suitable to be a patsy than Arnold. He has no experience of managing a government, even a small one like a small town mayer or councilman. What can he do with a big bureaucracy of a big state? Becoming a puppet is a certain. Samething took place in Minnisota where the governor is an athlete.(Ventura) Demo lost Senator's election after Wellstone's death. Even for the sympathetic effect, or for the fame of Mondale, Demo shouldn't lost in 2002 mid-election. But it's not their governor, and they don't control election office. Those who control intelligence was easy to get a vote result favorable to them like what happened in Florida.
2003-08-31 21:24 | User Profile
Simon drops out and computer worm (8/25)
There is no doubt that my computer is under surveillance of Feds. The agents who monitor on me often post message to my thread. These messages used to be malicious ridicules. There was once an agent even carelessly put his reply before I posting mine. So I know they can see everything on screen as soon as I typing out every word. Sometimes I failed to post a reply to a comment. I clicked "post" button, but the message never show up. Or a notice said "Invalid - session". Or even a ridicule: "Sorry, you may not post at this time. This forum has a waiting period before new members can post a message. Please return in 6 hours to post." (I was not new member though). It always took place when I made a reply which was too sharp which I thought had offended the watching agent.
In 8/22, I wrote a reply "Don't waste time, Simmon will pull out soon of late--- " to a thread "Go Simon, go!" I failed to post it after several trying. I was curious, "It was only a political opinion. Why ban my post? Maybe my opinion is too true to be posted?" I thought. I always think this Recall is conducted by Feds, apparently the agent knew it already. I planned to repost "Simon will pull out" in my coming postings.
I went back there about 20 minutes later. Found my message was posted and there was an explanation. It said "The Forsite net operations center shut down around noon today and was down until a short while ago. Though I haven't heard from them as to the cause, it's my guess that they were shut down deliberately because of the "sobig" worm."
So posting failure was caused by warm? Anyway they made an explanation 9 minutes after my problem. I abandoned the idea to post more "Simon will pull out". Next day on 8/23, news reported Simon drops out campaign. Though it could be a coincidence, I believe more at my opinion: Feds planned this recall, they knew Simon would drop out in advance. And computer warm is a tool they used to control internet and is useful in a cover up. That my opinion, sometimes, could be very accurate.
Here is the message topics on 8/22, notice the time.
27966 Go Simon, go! Drummond î ( Aug 22, 01:49, 2003 )
28007 Don't waste time, Simmon will pull out soon of late--- sungkathak ( Aug 22, 18:45, 2003 )
28014 System Outage ... --- admin î ( Aug 22, 18:54, 2003 )
28019 Is that what caused posting problem when I reply to a message? --- sungkathak î ( Aug 22, 19:13, 2003 )
See thread at:
[url=http://www.patriotnews.com/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/anyboard/newforum/&cmd=get&cG=2383030373&zu=3237393636&v=2&gV=0&p=]http://www.patriotnews.com/cgi-bin/anyboar...636&v=2&gV=0&p=[/url]
2003-09-11 20:39 | User Profile
I don't believe the poll, either being bad or good. Intelligence controll media. Poll is a tool they used to manipulate public's sentiment. In San Jose Mercury News, the poll said
vote approve ..Arnold..... Bustamante 8/10 ................25% ........15% 8/16 .................18% ........25% 8/23 .................23% ........18% 8/24..................22% .........35% How can the figure fluctuate so much in two weeks?
Arnold said he wouldn't campaign at first, but announced to be candidate at last moment. It's a tactic to lull the rival, let them not have enough time to prepare a rightful candidate against him. This time, it could be the same tactic.
It also can be a tactic focused on Davis. Bustamante is not so popular like Arnold. They try to divert voters' notice to second choice and make Davis lose in first choice.
It's amazing they now increase the number in a dramatical way. How easy they manipulate a poll and, the sentiment of public.
2003-09-21 21:42 | User Profile
delay
Of all the reasons to postpone California recall, this one is the worst one. punch-card ballot machines, I think, is better than the touch screen electronic voting machine. Because it's comparatively hard to cheat and easy to track if cheat happens.
There maybe some other reason behind scene, because before there were more reasonable proposes to postpone the recall but were promptly rejected by court. The recall itself is a plot by intelligence to Steal California.
2003-09-21 23:57 | User Profile
kathaksung,
Touch screen electronic voting machine are bad news. And Looks like Federal Government is going to make all Sates go over to using them. Looks like Free elections may be a thing of the past ever sooner than we thought!
Well pass the Ammo! :gunsmilie
2003-09-30 23:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]kathaksung,
Touch screen electronic voting machine are bad news. And Looks like Federal Government is going to make all Sates go over to using them. Looks like Free elections may be a thing of the past ever sooner than we thought!
Well pass the Ammo! :gunsmilie[/QUOTE]
Ye, free election, the only way American people to carry out their right, will lose if e-voting machine are introduced without a check and monitor system.
Quote, "1. Secrecy: What has always been a transparent process, subjected to many eyes and belonging to all, has very recently become secretive and proprietary. This happened when voting systems, which should be considered part of the "public commons" were turned over to private companies. These companies now assert that the process underlying the vote must be held secret from the voters.
No voter, citizens group or even academic experts are allowed to examine a voting machine.
Likewise, citizens, academics and voters are not allowed to examine the software that tells the computer how to count and tally the votes.
In addition, the process of voter registration is now going to private, proprietary and secret software.
Ownership: When a system that belongs to the public becomes secret, it becomes doubly important to make sure we can completely trust those who run it. Because voting systems have recently become proprietary secrets, questions have been raised about whether we can trust those who make them.
Voting machine companies are not required to tell us who owns them.
Several voting machine companies have been as secretive about ownership as they are about their voting systems.
Two of the top six firms have been foreign-owned: Election.com, owned by the Saudis until an acquisition by Accenture a few weeks ago, and Sequoia, now owned by DeLaRue (Great Britain) formerly owned by Jefferson Smurfit (Ireland).
Three of the top six firms have owners and/or directors who represent vested interests:
--- Election Systems & Software, the largest company. Main owner is a company owned by Senator Chuck Hagel's campaign finance director, Michael McCarthy. Hagel has owned shares in both the voting company itself and in the parent company run by his campaign finance director, and Hagel was the CEO and Chairman of the voting machine company while it built the machines that counted his votes.
[url]http://www.blackboxvoting.org./[/url]