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Thread ID: 8312 | Posts: 28 | Started: 2003-07-21
2003-07-21 01:54 | User Profile
Please choose an answer and explain your viewpoint.
2003-07-21 02:17 | User Profile
Gee, 100%, what a surprise, on this list! {snicker}
I am pained that my own sister is contributing to the destruction of my country and my race... And she's off the scale on pretty much every measure -- radical feminist, very pro-israel/pro-jew, activist religious (Anglican!) supporter of immigration and 'saving' all those poor darkies who can't make it in their own countries, and on and on...
Mea maxima culpa for not strangling her at birth (KIDDING!!!! I wasn't even born yet!) But I've had to pretty much give up trying to awaken her, cause her jamaican (educated, liberal, "wholly a victim") black husband throws a hissy fit whenever I try to discuss ANYthing... {sigh}
2003-07-21 02:39 | User Profile
Ewww.... that's pretty bad, Av. My sister is a Jah-Hippie in Hawaii. She has three pretty White girls, but they'll probably end up Jah-Hippies too.
2003-07-21 02:51 | User Profile
For everyone who doesn't know, this poll is regarding Ares, who wants to create a Mongoloid/Europid hybrid race, and his dubious use of the term "white nationalist" when describing himself. Please see the thread: [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?showtopic=9474]Latino Leader Proud of "the Browning of America"[/url].
2003-07-21 03:41 | User Profile
Ares is as much the enemy as the Juden.
2003-07-21 03:51 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Valley Forge@Jul 20 2003, 21:41 * ** Ares is as much the enemy as the Juden. **
Actually, the Jews wish to COERCE their views on members who support your version of White Nationalism, while I respect the right of your type of White Nationalists to follow their own paths. That is the difference between Jews and I.
Regards,
Ares
2003-07-21 06:37 | User Profile
It seems reasonable for Ares to call himself a nationalist, so long as he calls himself a "white-east-asian-jew-everybody-else-with-higher-average-IQs-than-whites-but-none-of-the-genius mongrel hybrid nationalist" instead of a White Nationalist. After all, he does desire to create a nation. It's just not ours. :P Ares, I christen you the board's first (lingering) WEAJEEWHQITWBNOTGMHN.
2003-07-21 07:27 | User Profile
*Originally posted by wintermute@Jul 21 2003, 00:15 * ** First, the Christian Identity people. Then, the transhumanists. Now,
** Ares, who wants to create a Mongoloid/Europid hybrid race,**
This board is getting more interesting every damn day.
Here's my Oslo plan for him and his kind (presumably, geeky whites with Asian wives) - and us, too.
We put aside one of the smaller states, probably New Hampshire. I say N.H., because at the particular time in the future when White Nationalism is enjoying some success, that state will probably be under the control of Libertarians via the auspices of the Free State movement.
Libs say they're non-racial, and they are pretty non-racial, for a 99.99999% White Male movement. New Hampshire will probably end up looking like prewar Austria when they've dismantled the controls on discrimination and ended welfare. The remaining .00001 of the population will be a gigantic statue of Ayn Rand, with whatever cabal of "individualist Jews" who are appointed keepers of her memory, whoevers sandals are washed by Leonard Peikoff, or however that works. I'm a little rusty on the details of rabinnical sucession - especially for female rabbis.
But I digress.
In a grand proclamation by Franco, our new Minister of Propaganda, N.H. will be pronounced 'Anime Island', where Whites and East Asians will be encouraged to mate with each other to create, not a Master Race, but rather a race of wide-eyed, small-mouthed, gadget-mad proto-Elves with big spiky hairdos in non-natural colors. A special syncretic religion, marrying the best in Catholic iconography with the mythology of Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess, and the films of Hayao Miyazaki, will be created to serve this new race, along with comic-book "manga" Bibles to enculturate the young . Men will have authoritative, masculine voices, but will lack the ability to grow any hair on their bodies until they are eighty years old, at which point they will miraculously sprout meticulous white beards. Women will appear as they ordinarily do, but will speak in fetishistic childlike whispers. Also, their eyes will take up three fourths of their faces, and they will occasionally have sex with Octopi (unless this violates new miscegenation laws).
Travel, of course, will be hovercraft, motorcycle, or futuristic monorail only, and all rainstorms will occur in a slightly sylized Asiatic manner.
What's a little genetic capital if you can't splurge every now and again?
Wintermute **
Your post has very little empiricism in it, please be more rational when discussing a White/East Asian hybrid species.
Regards,
Ares
2003-07-21 11:24 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ares+Jul 20 2003, 21:51 -->
QUOTE* (Ares @ Jul 20 2003, 21:51 ) <!--QuoteBegin-Valley Forge@Jul 20 2003, 21:41 * ** Ares is as much the enemy as the Juden. ** Actually, the Jews wish to COERCE their views on members who support your version of White Nationalism, while I respect the right of your type of White Nationalists to follow their own paths. That is the difference between Jews and I.
Regards,
Ares **
No one is "coercing" you to do anything, except perhaps quit describing yourself as a "nationalist", which you most definitely are not by any stretch of the imagination, and which when applied as a label to you and those who share your views is nothing but a fraudulent misnomer.
Eendracht Maakt Mag
2003-07-21 12:20 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Ares@Jul 21 2003, 01:27 * ** Your post has very little empiricism in it, please be more rational when discussing a White/East Asian hybrid species.
Regards,
Ares **
Apparently humor and irony are both lost on you...
Leveller
2003-07-21 13:15 | User Profile
Originally posted by wintermute@Jul 21 2003, 06:15 * ** Travel, of course, will be hovercraft, motorcycle, or futuristic monorail only*, and all rainstorms will occur in a slightly sylized Asiatic manner.
Wintermute**
Don't forget heavily armed giant robot vehicles, presumably supplied by the super-productive Randians. A Randian/Anime alliance could be a real threat to global security.
Edana
2003-07-21 17:18 | User Profile
Originally posted by wintermute@Jul 21 2003, 00:15 * In a grand proclamation by Franco, our new Minister of Propaganda, N.H. will be pronounced 'Anime Island', where Whites and East Asians will be encouraged to mate with each other to create, not a Master Race, but rather a race of wide-eyed, small-mouthed, gadget-mad proto-Elves with big spiky hairdos in non-natural colors. A special syncretic religion, marrying the best in Catholic iconography with the mythology of Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess, and the films of Hayao Miyazaki, will be created to serve this new race, along with comic-book "manga*" Bibles to enculturate the young . Men will have authoritative, masculine voices, but will lack the ability to grow any hair on their bodies until they are eighty years old, at which point they will miraculously sprout meticulous white beards. Women will appear as they ordinarily do, but will speak in fetishistic childlike whispers. Also, their eyes will take up three fourths of their faces, and they will occasionally have sex with Octopi (unless this violates new miscegenation laws).
Travel, of course, will be hovercraft, motorcycle, or futuristic monorail only, and all rainstorms will occur in a slightly sylized Asiatic manner.**
Hahaha! Animals will also be genetically mutated to create small, floating, fuzzy pets of questionable species to be dispensed as sidekicks to the youth.
Alka
2003-07-21 17:49 | User Profile
Animals will also be genetically mutated to create small, floating, fuzzy pets of questionable species to be dispensed as sidekicks to the youth.
Tribbles!! :lol:
Chaucer
2003-07-21 22:02 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Valley Forge@Jul 20 2003, 21:41 * ** Ares is as much the enemy as the Juden. **
Pretty much sums up how I feel.
Conservative
2003-07-21 23:04 | User Profile
Originally posted by Chaucer+Jul 21 2003, 16:02 -->
QUOTE* (Chaucer @ Jul 21 2003, 16:02 ) <!--QuoteBegin-Valley Forge@Jul 20 2003, 21:41 * ** Ares is as much the enemy as the Juden. ** Pretty much sums up how I feel. **
You two sound like Neo-Nazis. They are driven more by emotion/propaganda instead of reason.
Also, it appears that you two believe that in a democracy, anyone who voted for a belief that differed from you two would be given the death penalty, and that anyone who used the First Amendment to express their antagonistic views would also be given the death penalty. In other words, you two are the White equivalent of Zionism. This is what I am inferring from your comments that anyone who has a different opinion than you two are "the enemy."
But, that is just fine, I respect the right of White Neo-Nazi Zionists to create their own separate nation or State where the death penalty will be used very liberally. All the KKK and Skinheads will also join your nation. I though will choose to live in the nation that is more democratic and supports absolute free speech.
Regards,
Ares
Conservative
2003-07-22 01:00 | User Profile
Originally posted by wintermute@Jul 21 2003, 17:53 * ** > *A Randian/Anime alliance could be a real threat to global security. **
Good Lord!
I hadn't considered that.
The Aryan Defence Forces of the larger WN state will have to enforce some sort of moratorium on RMPs (Robots of Massive Proportions) and exoskeleton design generally. I'm sure all of the genetically engineered PUGOs (Pets of Unknown Genetic Origin) will make up for it, in the minds and hearts of the 'Animes'.
I think an independent defence treaty with giant Totorros might be advisable, by way of enforcement on the RMP ban.
Thanks for bringing these points to my attention.
Giant Objectivist Robots are the last thing we need. Their more diminutive cousins, the Randroids, which currently dot collegiate and libertarian environments, are enough trouble as it is.
Wintermute **
Hello Wintermute,
Your comments are as irrational as the very theists you claim are irrational. But, this is understandable, since the religion/irrationality brain module(s) even exists in most atheists, but manifests itself differently than in Christians.
Regards,
Ares
Conservative
2003-07-22 06:20 | User Profile
*Originally posted by wintermute@Jul 21 2003, 22:53 * ** I'd much rather have my "irrationality" brain module **
And I completely respect your right to follow the irrational/religious version of White Nationalism, it is just as valid as my racial hybrid version of White Nationalism.
By the way, I would recommend that you refrain from the use of mockings in this forum, it is a waste of our time as well as a waste of internet resources such as bandwidth.
Regards,
Ares
Eendracht Maakt Mag
2003-07-22 13:21 | User Profile
Hey Ares, why only go as far as miscegenating with East Asians? Even with 50% Mongoloid genes, your new hybrid race will still have an IQ 2-3 below full-blooded Mongoloids. So why not sterilize all white Americans and when they begin to go extinct, open the border to superior East Asians? I mean, if it has a higher than average IQ, its white, right?
Chaucer
2003-07-22 19:51 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ares+Jul 21 2003, 17:04 -->
QUOTE (Ares @ Jul 21 2003, 17:04 )
QUOTE* (Chaucer @ Jul 21 2003, 16:02 ) <!--QuoteBegin-Valley Forge@Jul 20 2003, 21:41 * ** Ares is as much the enemy as the Juden. ** Pretty much sums up how I feel. **
You two sound like Neo-Nazis. They are driven more by emotion/propaganda instead of reason.
Also, it appears that you two believe that in a democracy, anyone who voted for a belief that differed from you two would be given the death penalty, and that anyone who used the First Amendment to express their antagonistic views would also be given the death penalty. In other words, you two are the White equivalent of Zionism. This is what I am inferring from your comments that anyone who has a different opinion than you two are "the enemy."
But, that is just fine, I respect the right of White Neo-Nazi Zionists to create their own separate nation or State where the death penalty will be used very liberally. All the KKK and Skinheads will also join your nation. I though will choose to live in the nation that is more democratic and supports absolute free speech.
Regards,
Ares **
Democracy :D I never said anything about democracy. Is democracy that political system based on egalitarianism? It is good to hear that you won't want to reside in the same community when the time arises.
Conservative
2003-07-22 23:47 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Prodigal Son@Jul 22 2003, 07:21 * ** Hey Ares, why only go as far as miscegenating with East Asians? Even with 50% Mongoloid genes, your new hybrid race will still have an IQ 2-3 below full-blooded Mongoloids. So why not sterilize all white Americans and when they begin to go extinct, open the border to superior East Asians? I mean, if it has a higher than average IQ, its white, right? **
Because both Whites and East Asians by themselves are genetically flawed, but when you create a hybrid, a race is produced that is overall better than the individual races.
Regards,
Ares
Leveller
2003-07-23 02:37 | User Profile
Personally Ares, I can't wait for you to re-engineer yourself into Homo Superior.
Conservative
2003-07-23 02:51 | User Profile
Originally posted by Leveller@Jul 22 2003, 20:37 * ** Personally Ares, I can't wait for you to re-engineer yourself into Homo Superior*. **
I hope to become a Singularity, see [url=http://www.transtopia.org/]http://www.transtopia.org/[/url]
Regards,
Ares
Anarch
2003-07-30 07:55 | User Profile
Ares well and truly appears to be a Transhumanist-Eurasianist. Definetly not a WN though.
Avalanche
2003-07-30 13:50 | User Profile
** Because both Whites and East Asians by themselves are genetically flawed, but when you create a hybrid, a race is produced that is overall better than the individual races. ** hhhmm, that explains why ligers and hinnies are sterile! :P
Fernando Wood
2003-08-02 04:54 | User Profile
Because both Whites and East Asians by themselves are genetically flawed
Ares, please explain.
Oklahomaman
2003-08-02 08:31 | User Profile
Originally posted by Fernando Wood@Aug 1 2003, 22:54 * > Because both Whites and East Asians by themselves are genetically flawed*
Ares, please explain.**
It's called hybrid vigor.
If I take [url=http://www.holstein.com/html/thecow1.html]Holstein[/url] cows (which produce 21,000 lbs of milk per year on average) and cross them with [url=http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/cattle/guernsey/]Geurnsey[/url] bulls (Geurnsey's produce 17,000 lbs of milk per year on average) I can expect the F1 generation of offspring to produce somewhere around 22,500 lbs of milk per year.
Here's the math of it:
[url=http://web.nmsu.edu/~milthoma/HybrdVwb.html]http://web.nmsu.edu/~milthoma/HybrdVwb.html[/url]
What Ares doesn't understand is if I breed the F1 with other F1's then the F2 generation will slide a little in production down to 21,500 lbs/year. It declines in subsequent generations until it reaches the expected value of slightly higher than the poorer of the P1 generation. Hybrid vigor only applies to the F1 generation. The effect isn't permanent and once undesirable genes are introduced, it takes a lot of time to eradicate them.
Which is why milk producers DO NOT usually attempt this method as they rely on subsequent (F2, F3, F4 etc.) generations to enter production. So superior to other milk producing breeds are holsteins, that they account for 9 out of 10 milk cows in current production. Hybrid crosses are more common in the beef industry where the F1 generation is the final product and will never be allowed to reproduce.
Not all traits are subject to hybrid vigor. Back to our Holstein x Guernsey crosses. All other things equal, Holsteins are slightly more susceptible to udder diseases and disorders than Guernseys. But Holstein x Guernsey F1 hybrids aren't more resistant to udder disease than Guernseys.
Ares needs to cite a study where F3 or greater Asian x European P1 crosses are genetically superior to what we have now.
Edric
2003-08-07 13:43 | User Profile
Probably one of the main components of Nationalism and Racialism is the preservation of the Folk and its identity. This involves preserving its racial characteristics to a degree where the change does not alter the Race to an extent that the Race has morphed itself into oblivion. White Nationalists are supposedly Racialists and thus should seek to preserve their Race.
Most importantly Racialists should not introduce foreign elements into anything that bears the imprint of our Race, and that includes the Race as a biological entity as well. I favour the improvement of our Race through all methods, but this improvement should come without any foreign intereference and influence of any sort and at any level.
weisbrot
2003-08-07 14:26 | User Profile
Originally posted by Oklahomaman@Aug 2 2003, 04:31 * *Hybrid vigor only applies to the F1 generation. The effect isn't permanent and once undesirable genes are introduced, it takes a lot of time to eradicate them.
**
More on Hybrid Vigor can be found...
[url=http://entertainment.msn.com/album/?album=138001]here.[/url]
While not a product of a White/East Asian puree, this Hybrid Vigor is a product of a Full Grown Man.