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Thread ID: 8291 | Posts: 13 | Started: 2003-07-20
2003-07-20 06:56 | User Profile
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U.S. May Embrace Defectors
by Ju Yong-joong (midway@chosun.com)
WASHINGTON- The Bush administration is considering admitting thousands of North Korean defectors to the United States as an effort to increase pressure on Pyongyang during the standoff over its nuclear weapons programs, the Washington Post reported Wednesday.
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2003-07-20 13:47 | User Profile
"America's gene pool to rise in quality" Ares, I can only guess your claims of Korean ethnic superiority rest on mean IQ scores, because they usually do. I hope they're predisposed to create South Korea and not North Korea.
2003-07-20 16:34 | User Profile
*300,000 Koreans Coming to America Each Year*, America's gene pool to rise in quality
America's [url=http://www.animaladvocates.com/korean-dog-eating.htm]dog[/url] population to decrease. :shock:
2003-07-20 17:10 | User Profile
I have yet to see ONE extremely intelligent Korean in my field. They stick together very well, true. But IQ? Nigga, please.
I am more impressed by the Taiwanese (more civilized and not as big in terms of being lying cheats as the mainland Chinese or Indians).
2003-07-20 17:24 | User Profile
In my neighborhood there are three neurotic yapping dogs. Maybe I could get one Korean family to move in just on the edge of the neighborhood, away from my house and down wind. After they've eaten the dogs, they have to leave though.
Enkidu
2003-07-20 17:33 | User Profile
And if they're so damn superior, why don't they stay in Korea and turn it into a world power? Why would they want to be around inferior Americans?
[SIZE=2]Same goes for Mexicans: if they're so hard-working, why can't they turn Mexico around?[/SIZE]
If you notice, it seems non-Whites are most successful in White-majority, White-run nations, like the US.
2003-07-20 17:37 | User Profile
In my neighborhood there are three neurotic yapping dogs. Maybe I could get one Korean family to move in just on the edge of the neighborhood, away from my house and down wind. After they've eaten the dogs, they have to leave though.
:lol:
Yeah, but the problem is, once you feed 'em, they'll never leave. :clown:
2003-07-21 01:38 | User Profile
Ares, for a self-proclaimed IQ elitist, you certainly don't give off the impression of being very bright. Take for example your assumption that all East Asian have higher IQs than all whites, which is asinine in the extreme. How do you know that these Koreans are your much desired Mongoloid ubbemensche and not the low-IQ underclass refuse of their country? Of course there is also the argument from the fact that these newcomers are racially and culturally alien, but this obviously does not trouble you in the least.
2003-07-21 01:51 | User Profile
Take for example your assumption that all East Asian have higher IQs than all whites
I am looking at averages, not absolutes.
How do you know that these Koreans are your much desired Mongoloid ubbemensche and not the low-IQ underclass refuse of their country?
Let's hope that the average IQ of the immigrants is equal to or higher than the White average IQ.
Of course there is also the argument from the fact that these newcomers are racially and culturally alien, but this obviously does not trouble you in the least.
The German culture is alien to the French, which is alien to the Brits, which is alien to the Americans, which is alien to the Swedes. This is irrelevant to me, since culture can be taught to an extent.
Regards,
Ares
2003-07-21 02:04 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ares@Jul 20 2003, 19:51 * ** Let's hope that the average IQ of the immigrants is equal to or higher than the White average IQ.*
LOL, so you assumption that East Asian immigration to America is by default beneficial to the genepool is based on nothing more than hope?
The German culture is alien to the French, which is alien to the Brits, which is alien to the Americans, which is alien to the Swedes. This is irrelevant to me, since culture can be taught to an extent.
And the above is irrelvant to me, since there is no large-scale immigration between Western European countries. Furthmore, what makes you think that these highly ethocentric East Asians will even want to assimilate into American culture when they can isolate themselves into ghettoes (for lack of a better word) and maintain their ethnic distinctiveness?
2003-07-21 02:10 | User Profile
so you assumption that East Asian immigration to America is by default beneficial to the genepool is based on nothing more than hope?
It is proven that East Asians are smarter than Whites, but you could be right that the ones that are actually coming to America from North Korea are those that fall on the left side of the IQ bell curve. Of course, we would have to explain the selection process by which only the dumber Koreans are coming to America, while the average and above average ones are staying there.
Furthmore, what makes you think that these highly ethocentric East Asians will even want to assimilate into American culture when they can isolate themselves into ghettoes (for lack of a better word) and maintain their ethnic distinctiveness?
The East Asians will provide a more intelligent voting block. And at least their children will assimilate quite well, while the first generation will be more hesitant.
Regards,
Ares
2003-07-21 04:13 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ares@Jul 20 2003, 20:10 * It is proven that East Asians are smarter than Whites, but you could be right that the ones that are actually coming to America from North Korea are those that fall on the left side of the IQ bell curve.*
It's quite possible, and would not be without precedent. For example, during the 1970s, the Soviet Union used relaxed immigration laws to [url=http://www.russian-americans.org/CRA_Art_FBI.htm]purge its prisons of Jewish criminals[/url], who thereafter immigrated to the US as "refugees", and gained a foothold for the now infamous [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?showtopic=9067&hl=russian+mafia]"Russian"[/url] Mafia.
ÃÂ Of course, we would have to explain the selection process by which only the dumber Koreans are coming to America, while the average and above average ones are staying there.
I am not saying that the Korean immigrants are below average intelligence; simply that they could be (which would not be without precedent, as I pointed out above) and that assuming that Korean immigration to the US is by default beneficial is asinine and naive.
The East Asians will provide a more intelligent voting block.
The Jews are also an "intelligent voting block". And like the Jews, East Asians in the US tend to vote along [url=http://theoccidentalquarterly.com/vol1no1/rm-ethnicgap.html]leftist[/url] lines (hate to quote one of McCulloch's articles, but it proves my point).
ÃÂ And at least their children will assimilate quite well, while the first generation will be more hesitant.
If they are surrounded by millions of other East Asians (which is what you want) their high ethnocentrism will prevent them from assimilating. After all, Koreans are [u]not[/u] white, and [u]do not[/u] have white interests in mind.
2003-07-22 00:01 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ares@Jul 20 2003, 18:10 * ** > so you assumption that East Asian immigration to America is by default beneficial to the genepool is based on nothing more than hope?*
It is proven that East Asians are smarter than Whites, but you could be right that the ones that are actually coming to America from North Korea are those that fall on the left side of the IQ bell curve. Of course, we would have to explain the selection process by which only the dumber Koreans are coming to America, while the average and above average ones are staying there.
Furthmore, what makes you think that these highly ethocentric East Asians will even want to assimilate into American culture when they can isolate themselves into ghettoes (for lack of a better word) and maintain their ethnic distinctiveness?
The East Asians will provide a more intelligent voting block. And at least their children will assimilate quite well, while the first generation will be more hesitant.
Regards,
Ares **
East Asians have a higher average IQ than Whites, but a narrower SD. While many books shy away from this fact, take a look at say, A Question of Intelligence: The IQ Debate by Seligman. Info from Lynn, Jensen, etc. puts the East Asian SD at 8.9 points (some have it as low as 8.6). (Yes, jews also have a narrower SD than those hated Whites, it just isn't polite to mention it, with all the jewish crowing about their "accomplishments" and such) Whites have many more people at the so-called "genius" levels of the IQ spectrum. While the term genius is overused, it is a fact that you will find a higher percentage of Whites over the 145 - 150 IQ range. Koreans would hardly improve the US's stock, but I'd bet Ares already knows that.
Lynn, Flynn, Jensen, etc. have also stated that the real difference between Whites and Asians is more in structure than overall scores. While I won't get into it yet again, I'll use an example regarding schooling. Yes, Asians spend much more time studying than Whites, on average, and do better in school, on average. However, a high percentage of even the most accomplished Asian students fall off the track when handed dreaded essay exams instead of t/f or multiple choice (which is what most exams are). Rote memorization doesn't always help out on these types of tests, which is why Asians would groan, or fight to NOT have essay exams when I was at UCLA, and still fight them to this day at many schools, claiming "language" problems, etc. Amusing when one considers there are second generation etc. Asians claiming the problems with language. But such is America today. Asians also tend to fall flat on things like the analytical portion of the GRE, etc. Whites outscore both Asians and jews, on average, on that portion of the test. Gives one reason to pause, eh?
Possibly, Ares = Polichinello. Or he's a follower of the Birdman, who uses the average IQ of E. Asians as one of his excuses for posting porn (pictures on Asian women on occasion) on his site. Ares posts things like the story that started this thread, mainly to irritate, that's all.