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2003-07-14 00:51 | User Profile
[color=purple]....must be hammered down, as the Japanese aphorism says.
In the last few days here we have been reminded no violence must be enacted or encouraged within our happy band. That pretty much narrows our choice of venues to the political and rhetorical.
Whoops.
Better make that rhetorical only. Whoops again: if one of J. E. Dubya's re-election campaign themes is The Taliban Within: Stopping Hate On The Internet (and why not? Why should the First Amendment dissuade the engineers of the Greatest Reichstag Fire Of Them All?), then I'd like to see a logical paleo justification for orderly calm and obedience when anything but signs all three copies of the Federal paperwork for your lethal injection. [/color]
Jews Break Moran Marc Resigns From Hopewell Council
7/13/2003 12:31:18 AM Discuss this story in the forum Bill White
Hopewell, NJ -- Well, it seems like my trip to New Jersey was all for naught. Marc Moran resigned this morning, and since I was in Trenton stalking the reporters that had harassed him, I just found out about it now.
I want to say that I know Marc pretty well, and this is both a surprise and a disappointment to me. If there was one movement figure that I thought had the ability to withstand this kind of onslaught, it was him.
From the beginning, I could tell Marc had chosen a losing position for himself. Several of the things he told the media about himself and his views were untrue, and as soon as I saw him quoted saying things that were not correct, I knew he couldn't win. It is easy to stand up and be who you are, but when you admit the moral legitimacy of your opponent's position by refusing to assert the moral legitimacy of your own, you're fighting a battle you cannot win.
The first thing is, that if you are a member of the National Alliance, there is no way in hell you are going to persuade anyone you are not an anti- Semite or a racist. In fact, if you are a member of the National Alliance, you are an anti-Semite and a racist -- and I'm not even focusing on Marc here, this is general. Moreover, you know this. You can't say you didn't know what they stood for -- no one is going to believe you. That's just damn common sense.
Now its one thing to do battle with the press -- to say that I believe this and it is right and f*ck you if you don't agree with it. It is another thing to misrepresent yourself and try to accomodate the press. The hardest question the press can give you is not "are you a racist?" The hardest question is "You say you aren't a racist, but there is all this evidence that you're lying. How do you explain that?" In the eye of the public, people with moral character can hold all different kinds of views; people who misrepresent their views by definition have no moral character.
And what really pisses me off about this whole situation is that the battle for the office had already been won! This was a rear guard action by international Jewry to cover up a fuckup that had already cost them the war! And its not [like] Marc was put under very much pressure -- and I know he'll disagree with this -- but this story didn't even go national. all he had to do was wait another three or four days and the whole thing would've died, and then I would've been up in Hopewell on a regular basis with some volunteers letting the voters know that in, my personal opinion, that they were going to either vote for Marc Moran, or that we didn't need them voting at all. It's only 2000 people, and most of them were already in his corner -- no big deal.
Well, I'm furious and disappointed, and I'm not going to rant any further because I know Marc must already be dissappointed enough in himself that he doesn't need me piling on. I'd still like to go back up there and crack of few of those people's numbskull heads, but I guess that's going to have to wait.
As the Emperor Aurelius would tell us:
***"Deem no word or deed that is in accord with Nature to be unworthy of thee, and be not plucked aside by the consequent censure of others or what they say, If a thing is [true], judge not thyself unworthy of ... saying it."
Anyways, I leave all of you with some of thoughts of the Emperor Marcus Aurelius to meditate on [minor alterations from the standard translation made by me]:
"Say to thyself at daybreak, I shall come across the busy-body, the thankless, the overbearing, the treacherous, the envious, the neighborly [Bill: aka the Jew]. All this has befallen them because they know not good from evil. But I, in that I have comprehended the Good that it is beautiful, and the nature of Evil that it is ugly, and the nature of the wrong-doer who himself is my kin ... can neither be injured by any of them -- for no one can involve me in their own debasement ...
Given the nature of wicked men, it is impossible that they not do wicked deeds. To wish otherwise is to wish the fig tree had no bitter juice. ...
Eliminate the opinion "I am harmed", and at once the feeling of being harmed dissappears ...
That which does not make a man debase himself cannot reduce the quality of his life, nor can it injure him from without or within.
The nature of the general good could not have acted but as it did.
Note that all that befalls thee befalls thee justly. ...
He whose heart flutters after fame does not reflect that very soon every one of those who remember him will be dead, as he himself will be, and their successors after them, until at last the entire memory him will be extinguished ... To the dead man, I need scarcely say, that praise is nothing, so what is it to the living [who shall soon be dead]? Do you reject the bounty of nature in the present, from fear of what others will say after your death? ...
Ephemeral all of them, the rememberer and the remembered! ...
Harm to thee cannot depend on another's opinion ... On what then? On the power within theyself of judging what is evil. ... For that which falls upon the good man equally with the wicked, is itself neither good nor evil. ...
Be like a headland of rock on which the waves break incessantly, but it stands fast and causes the seething of the waves to sink to rest.
"Ah, unlucky I am that this has befallen me!" Nay, but rather, lucky am I, that though this has befallen me I am still unhurt ... For something of the kind could have befallen anyone, but anyone would not have remained unhurt despite of it. ... There is no misfortune, but to bear it nobly is good fortune. ...
How easy it is to put away and blot out every impresssion that is disturbing or alien, and to be at once in perfect peace.
Deem no word or deed that is in accord with Nature to be unworthy of thee, and be not plucked aside by the consequent censure of others or what they say, If a thing is [true], judge not thyself unworthy of ... saying it. ...
Nothing befalls anyone that he is not fitted by nature to bear. ...
Things of themselves cannot harm the Soul in the least, nor do they have any access to her, nor can they deflect or move her; the Soul alone moves herself ...
Another does me some wrong? It stains his soul. His disposition is his own ... What the universal Nature wills me to have now is what I have, and I do only what truth and reason demand. ...
Why do unskilled and ignorant souls confound him who has skill and has knowledge? ...
In a little while you shall be burnt ashes or a few dry bones, and possibly a name, and possibly not even a name. And a name is but sound and a far off echo. All that we prize in our lives so highly is empty and rotten and paltry ... But faith and modesty and justice and truth up from the wide-wayed Earth have winged their flight to Olympus. ...
If this is not an evil deed of mine nor the result of my evil deeds ... why concern myself about it? ...
Be not carried incontinently away by sense impressions, but rally to the fight as you can in accordance with duty. ...
I do my own duty; other things do not distract me. For ... they have gone astray and know not the road. ...
It is a disgrace for the soul to die in a man when the body remains living. ...
Let any man say or do what he will, I must for my part be good. So might the emerald ... never tire of repeating: "Whatever anyone shall do or say, I must be an emerald and keep my color." ...
A little while and you will have forgotten everything; a little while and everything will have forgotten you. ...
Tis royal to do well and be ill spoken of. ...
Though me and my sons the Gods have spurned, this too has reason ...
For this, O men of Athens, is the true state of things: Wherever a man has stationed himself, or has been stationed by his commander, is where methinks he ought to stay and run every risk, showing no fear of death or anything else except the dishonous of abandoning his post. ***
And though I could go on, I will end it there. Everyone reading this should remember a few things:
That there is nothing in life that can hurt you if you do what is right and true, because there is no hurt in life except to be less righteous than you could have been. There is no disgrace in life except the disgrace of abandoning a true position while you are still capable of defending it. It doesn't matter if the whole world appears to have turned against you -- such things are just illusions that the world throws at you sometimes to test you. The more character you appear to have -- the more potential for character you do have -- the more testing you have to endure. If you fail the test, you get tossed back down into the lumpen of men; if you pass, then you get more of the same until your done.
My recommendation to all our readers is never falter in bravery or in battle -- political or physical -- and never believe the world and what is happening to you in it is ever anything more than an illusion.
2003-07-14 00:59 | User Profile
We were listening to an interview with him on a radio show the other day. Who is he trying to kid by saying he joined the NA because of illegal immigration? ILLEGAL immigration? Wow, what a stand! Not even a "I want a reduction of legal immigration levels" and "I don't think it's a great thing for Whites to become a minority." Just "My issue is illegal immigration." He made Jared Taylor and Pat Buchanan look tough and uncompromising. There is a difference between softening your views for public consumption and watering them down to indistinguishable levels.
2003-07-14 02:09 | User Profile
I'm not blind to your reasoning. But neither am I blind to the fact that only those who constrain themselves to the rules get punished in this world.
Jews demand - in print! - the violent overthrow of nations, and the premeditated murders of troublesome individuals, [u]all the time[/u]. People of color in this country tend to be treated with kid gloves in direct inverse proportion to their history of violence.
Want to start a nonsense "dialogue" that results in your successfully milking the public treasury? Riot for 3-4 days in a major city and cause 50-60 deaths and billions in property damage after a 30-year spree that's already netted 30- 40,000 murders of whites on your racial resume.
Want elected officials to publicly grovel before you, citing your 'religion of peace'? Bomb schoolbuses, discos, jumbo jets or tall office buildings.
I remember a quote from somewhere: "You want peace? Then convince your enemy that you'll give them war." Only those who take pains to live strictly within the prescribed rules ever face the full brunt of the penalties for their infraction.
A few parting quotes, both from Jews:
"There are no rules. Those in power make up the rules. So those out of favor are bound to break them." - Jose Ber Gelbard, Argentine minister of economic affairs, 1973-74
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." - Jesus Christ
2003-07-14 03:42 | User Profile
[url=http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1091&dept_id=425744&newsid=9691103&PAG=461&rfi=9]www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1091&dept_id=425744&newsid=9691103&PAG=461&rfi=9[/url]
Marc Moran, who was appointed to the Hopewell Borough Council July 3, says he will step down and not seek election in November in order to end the controversy over his membership in the white supremacist organization the National Alliance.
Embattled Hopewell Borough Councilman Marc Moran said Saturday morning he will resign from the council, to which he was appointed nine days ago, adding that he has "no intention" of seeking election to the council in November. "Hopewell Borough is too great a place to have to endure the amount of attention ââ¬â especially this kind of attention ââ¬â that it's getting now," Mr. Moran said. "My roots in the borough are very deep and I love it very much. It's because of that that I've decided to leave the council." Statewide controversy erupted immediately after it became public knowledge two days ago that Mr. Moran is a member of the National Alliance, a rabidly white supremacist organization. Mr. Moran's protestations that he joined the Alliance primarily because he shares its views on illegal immigration and the importance of safeguarding free speech seemed to do nothing to quell the furor. Mr. Moran's Internet writings, excerpts from which have been published widely during the past few days, fueled the controversy as strongly as his membership in the National Alliance. In one of Mr. Moran's essays, posted a few weeks ago on the virulently anti-Semitic website vanguardnewsnetwork.com, he admired Chester Doles, a National Alliance member and former grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan who has a swastika tattooed on one wrist and "White Power" tattooed on the other. In that essay, entitled "Freedom," Mr. Moran compared Mr. Doles to America's Founding Fathers. Mr. Moran's decision has come as a relief to the borough's mayor. Hopewell Borough Mayor David Nettles said Saturday morning of Mr. Moran's decision to resign, "I am relieved, very relieved. I think it's the best thing for the borough. I'm glad it's over." Mr. Nettles said he knew nothing of Mr. Moran's extremist views or membership in the National Alliance until he read about it in the press after Mr. Moran was appointed to the council. Mr. Moran said he has already told Mayor Nettles and several council members of his decision to resign. He added that he "has no intention of running in the November election." Asked if he will seek to have his name removed from the ballot, Mr. Moran, a Republican, said: "Oh, I think the Republican Party will take care of that for me. But I have no intention of running." [color=red]GOP leaders and officials from all levels of state government have been clamoring for Mr. Moran's resignation with increasing intensity. They include Gov. Jim McGreevey, state senator and state Republican chairman Joe Kyrillos, Mercer County Executive Robert Prunetti and state assemblywoman and chair of the state Democratic Committee Bonnie Watson Coleman.[/color] [img]http://www.njdems.org/Images/headshots/bwcphoto.jpg[/img] [url=http://www.njdems.org/chair.html]http://www.njdems.org/chair.html[/url]
Ms. Coleman said Friday, "The cancerous and corrosive effect of a public official's affiliation with a white supremacist group cannot be minimized. Local officials don't just decide where to plant shade trees. They have a role in a broad spectrum of issues related to social justice and diversity, such as decisions on affordable housing, educational opportunity and the allocation of public resources, such as funds from state and federal government. Of course, a message of hate, prejudice and intolerance is wrong everywhere." Mr. Moran, who said he will deliver a letter of resignation to Borough Hall Monday morning, was appointed to council to complete the unexpired term of Mr. Nettles, who vacated his seat on council to complete the unexpired term of former mayor George Padgett, who resigned recently and moved to Florida. The term to which Mr. Moran was appointed July 3 ends Dec. 31. His appointment came after he landed a spot on the November ballot as a Republican seeking a three-year term on the council. At a Friday afternoon press conference near John Hart's grave in a cemetery on East Broad Street in the heart of the small borough, Mr. Moran said several times he would not resign. He said he thought that whether or not he should remain on the council should be decided by the voters in November. "But I changed my mind in the wee hours this morning and will resign," he said Saturday. "I re-examine my views on issues every day and will continue to do that," he added, "I think what has happened during the past few days will increase my efforts, and perhaps the efforts of other people as well, to do that. But what I want to say now is that, for the sake of my family and my town, it's time to bring all this to an end."
[color=red][Look how the colored/mixed race people call White organizations "HATE" when they support and defend the destruction of White America - gb ][/color] [url=http://www.politicsnj.com/watsoncoleman071103.htm]www.politicsnj.com/watsoncoleman071103.htm[/url] DEMOCRATIC STATE COMMITTEE BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN, CHAIRMAN
Watson Coleman Condemns Hateful Believes & Castigates Casual Tolerance of Prejudice & Intolerance
Hopewell Case Should Not Be Minimized
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Richard McGrath 609-392-3367/732-754-9612
Trenton -- Bonnie Watson Coleman, the chair of the Democratic State Committee, issued the following statement on Friday in reaction to the revelations in Hopewell Borough.
"The cancerous and corrosive effect of a public official's affiliation with a white supremacist group should not be minimized because he serves in a relatively small community. Local officials don't just decide where to plant shade tress. They have a roll in a broad spectrum of issues related to social justice and diversity, such as decisions on affordable housing, educational opportunity and the allocation of public resources, including funds from state and federal government.
"Of course, a message of hate, prejudice and intolerance is wrong everywhere. The principle of fairness and justice for all Americans in a democracy is just as wrong at the local level as it is at higher levels of government.
"Diversity does not include hate, prejudice or intolerance. The progress we have made as a country rich in diversity and proud of the heritage of so many countries and cultures should not be lost or overlooked when controversies such as this one spill into the public. At the same time, we can't ignore or minimize the potential severity that hate groups can still have. Diligence against any sign of injustice and hate is a welcome attitude - the more we have it, the less we'll need it.
"We are better than this. I have the full faith and confidence in the good virtues of the people of Mercer County and New Jersey to reject and repudiate all tenants of the white supremacist group and its members."
2003-07-14 03:56 | User Profile
I don't blame Marc for stepping down. I blame him for not knowing this was inevitably coming and having no strategy ready - not even to have prepared remarks that would have allowed him to leave with dignity. The way this has played out, headlice like Bonnie Coleman made free political hay at his expense, her own comments a stirring, risk-free display of Diversity Boilerplate. Count on her invoking Mr Moran's name time & again - as a 'menace' she boldly thwarted - every time she wants votes or attention. Marc Moran will be the Bad Guy of Jersey politics for some time to come, sad to say.
Marc, it was incumbent upon you - as the condemned man - to utter the kind of last words that would make them think twice about making you their convenient straw man as well. I wish you well, because - whether you know this or not - it's not over...for you, your family or Hopewell Borough....by a long shot.
2003-07-14 06:17 | User Profile
By general consensus, you're the best writer here, maybe the best in the WN movement. Why would you even want to advocate foolish militia fantasies when the Fred Reed/ Alex Linder/ Peter Brimelow role is still available to you is beyond me.
Because it won't work! It's too late! Nobody is listening!
You don't know because you haven't tried.
For what it's worth to you, I agree with Wintermute.
You're a brilliant writer, and I feel strongly that you would do our cause great good by penning essays and publishing them far and wide.
Obviously we have a right of self-defense, and for now that includes acting within our 2nd Amendment rights, getting armed and licensed, going to the range to practice, and so forth all within the law.
Clearly, too, violence and terror often work very well for their proponents. The IRA forced the British to the negotiating table, as Hamas drove the Israeilis out of Lebanon. And African Americans forced the white liberal establishment to pay them tribute by burning down cities, no doubt about that.
But for us and our movement, it's just not time for that. Not yet. The Irish Catholics had their backs to the wall, the Palestinians even more so. Violence was seen as a last resort in those circumstances, and it was an easier sell to their rank and file. But even then, most Irish Catholics in Ulster didn't support the IRA's terror campaign. Blacks had an advantage in the indulgent kindness that whites tend naturally to feel for children, combined with the guilt complex burned into their consciences by our Tribal enemies. We will enjoy no such psychological advantage - indeed, the liberal establishment is programmed to show us no mercy, as we learned at Ruby Ridge and Waco.
So, it isn't that I disagree with your substantive analysis, but as with most things in life "timing is everything." This is premature, and can only lead to an unwanted reaction against this defenseless little baby of a movement that we have. Things will have to get much, much worse for our people to even think about supporting armed resistance, and until then you invite a reaction that could strangle the baby in the crib.
I believe that such a time will come when violence will make a great deal of sense to our people, but it isn't yet. In the meantime, we have the yoeman's task of preparing the ground. That's boring compared to our romantic dreams of heroic armed resistance, but it's reality.
And being grown-ups, reality is our stock in trade.
Warmest regards,
Walter
2003-07-14 06:20 | User Profile
I am trying not to judge Mr Moran too harshly, we don't know if there were any threats against his family for instance, however he has proven to be a big disappointment. There is certainly away of bring up white nationalist issues when given a forum that won't scare the livestock.
Talking about America becoming a white minority nation is a good place to start. The thrid world status of California due to illegal and LEGAL third world immigration is another. The 90% inter-racial black on white crime rate can be brought without anymore condemnation than Mr Moran was already enduring.
Mr Moran should have told the press far from being a hater of people he was against hate ,hatred of whites through the above mentioned multi-cultural programs that are destroying our people. The press would have given him more and more coverage so that they could heap scorn on him and his views. As long as he presented these views in a calm educated manner with perhaps some humor thrown in the press would see their plan backfire as most whites would start to agree with him. Quickly coverage would have been dropped and apart from occasional verbal attacks Moran would have bee left in peace.
Now of course we will never know if this would have happened in the way outlined. White Nationalists when given a public forum either become cartoon versions of Hollywood Nazis or they fold like cheap cameras. David Duke seems to be the only one who kept his principles and his cool when talking to the press and the white masses
2003-07-14 06:58 | User Profile
Many blushing thanks, Walt 'n' Wint. But if I'm the 'best', it only underscores how much better we need to get. For what it's worth, these OD posts ARE my 'essays', though, with the bonus of being instant public-domain properties. If any phrase I've turned here has codified someone else's thoughts precisely, by all means steal it; I insist. Whiteness, like virtue, is its own reward.
A few final thoughts on Mr Moran. His first/biggest mistake - as one honest man pointed up on the VNN board - was in using his own name on his op-ed pieces there and in correspondence. My God, today, with the story still a rumor, I typed "Marc Moran" in a Google engine and what's the first thing that comes up? His frickin' home phone number! No, no, no and NO. We are outmanned, outspent, outgunned, outlawyered and outSHOUTED at every turn: you do not under any circumstances volunteer information to ZOG. You save your bullets until they are required to save your life.
I don't care if you own your own home, own your own business, or are revered in the community; heck, I don't care if you're an eccentric millionaire with your dosh docked in numbered Swiss accounts; if they want you 'got', they'll get you. In reality, you own nothing that can't be taken from you with the swing of a gavel...and why do you think there are 5000 laws on the books when they only regularly enforce a few hundred at most? It's so a search warrant of your garage turns up 'bomb-making components', to name one, or the county begins suddenly assessing you for every crack in the cement in a 100-yard radius of your home.
Moran wrote regularly for VNN as 'Marc Moran'....he had to know this was coming. If he hadn't felt compelled to swagger, and signed his work "Yahoodi Blowfish" instead.... he'd be in office tomorrow morning.
2003-07-14 14:32 | User Profile
He made Jared Taylor and Pat Buchanan look tough and uncompromising.
Wait until the jewsmedia is jamming you and see what happens. They've got heat blasters that can kill a man.
However true the cautionary lessons to emerge might be, I'm a little reluctant to discuss them just this minute. Ever had that feeling? Like, yeah, in hindsight, a different approach would have been better, but here we are now and let's just mourn what's happened for a second. Not to employ too dramatic an analogy, but I've never been to a funeral where the eulogy began with a little lecture about having your colon checked for polyps. Marc Moran is a HELL of a guy, and however inadvised his using of his own full name on VNN may have been, he's someone I've met. Unlike the members of a certain paleoconservative/racialist web discussion board, unless I was simply unawares. The psychological value of folks going by their real names is worth a great deal. What if Alex Linder, Jared Taylor, Kevin Alfred Strom or Robert Griffin all used 14/88, WhitePowerDude, NaziMan and "Hugh Lincoln"? (Please note: I am not Prof. Griffin, just using myself as an example so as to prevent charges of hypocrisy.) Marc flew higher than most, and others will fly higher.
I remember a discussion in an AR article (I think that's where I read it) about a certain number of folks having to "take a hit" before the critical mass starts to swarm. I welcome OD comments on this thought. Seems to be something to it. People out there say, "You know what, that guy was pressured into resigning/fired from his job/booted from the magazine/etc., but I agree with what he said." And so on. Of course, the best scenario here is that the person stands his ground until the last moment: He's defeated for election rather than volunteering to step down, etc.
I think IR's being a little too ZOG-cautious here. Crikes, if I had a Swiss account, I'd start tomorrow on making myself a Jared Taylor-without-the-Jews. "They" can't shut down the Internet, the phones, the fax machines, the printers, e-mail, public speakers, the purchase of a building, etc. IR's posts beg a question: has there ever been a successful political or military revolution or significant political change in which ALL participants went by anonymous names?
Marc was brought low by the combination of three things: The holding of political office, his membership in NA, and the full-real-name essays on VNN. One brought attention to the other which brought attention to the other. So, if political office is your goal, don't join NA. Support it, etc., but the "fact of joining" is a media hook that draws everything in. "Ethnic Cleansing, the Video Game" and the Resistance-brand boots with little swastika-shaped treads are now hung around YOUR neck. I can assure you as a former journalist, this is how it works. Editor needs something definite like: he is IN the group, officially. He is RUNNING for office, officially. Etc. No editor is going to get excited about "Marc Moran is not a member of the National Alliance, but has read its website, spoken with various members, and agrees with its goals." Yawn. But when you're in, you're in.
The best way to deal with the media is on YOUR terms. That means you go to THEM first. That's a lesson learned, I think, for anyone with a radioactive issue like we gots. You ain't gonna win by hiding from them. Mention White people in your campaign for office.
Note too that for our issues - race and Jewish influence - the media is not yet at the point where the specifics are discussed. Mention that S-heavy Supremacist word, and no discussion of issues is needed. It's just a pavlovian rip-roar. This is not to say, however, that the media, bad as it is, refuses to discuss issues. You just have to shame them into discussing them: Say, "you're oversimpifying here, Mr. Reporter." That'll get 'em.
Last note, inspired by a thought from my significant other: When you get "caught," say Hell Yes, I Did It. I Said It. I Meant It. People respect that, even they don't quite agree with the substance. And in the end, it's not about substance, it's about strength of character. In retrospect we could quibble, but I think Marc showed a lot of it this weekend.
2003-07-14 14:43 | User Profile
It is also possible to point at his detractors and examine their ideologies and the organizations they belong to. Here is an opportunity to expose those that hate Whites for who they really are!
2003-07-14 15:03 | User Profile
Look what this HATER of Whites said!
[img]http://www.njdems.org/Images/headshots/bwcphoto.jpg[/img]
DEMOCRATIC STATE COMMITTEE BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN, CHAIRMAN
Watson Coleman Condemns Hateful Believes & Castigates Casual Tolerance of Prejudice & Intolerance
Hopewell Case Should Not Be Minimized
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Richard McGrath 609-392-3367/732-754-9612
Trenton -- Bonnie Watson Coleman, the chair of the Democratic State Committee, issued the following statement on Friday in reaction to the revelations in Hopewell Borough.
"The cancerous and corrosive effect of a public official's affiliation with a white supremacist group should not be minimized because he serves in a relatively small community. Local officials don't just decide where to plant shade tress.
[color=red][ Does that include pro negro organizations? Or organizations that are destroying White America and turning our country into the cesspool they hail from? - gb][/color]
They have a roll in a broad spectrum of issues related to social justice and diversity, such as decisions on affordable housing, educational opportunity and the allocation of public resources, including funds from state and federal government.
[color=red][ Our elected officials also have the responsibility of reducing crime by incarcerating criminals that just happen to be negro, and enforcing laws designed to reduce and curtail illegal immigration - gb][/color]
"Of course, a message of hate, prejudice and intolerance is wrong everywhere.
[color=red][ We sure are feeling the love flowing from the mouth of this negro woman, aren't we? - gb][/color]
The principle of fairness and justice for all Americans in a democracy is just as wrong at the local level as it is at higher levels of government.
[color=red][ Here is where this negro woman CLEARLY states that the principal of fairness and justice for ALL Americans, including Whites, is WRONG! - gb ][/color]
"Diversity does not include hate, prejudice or intolerance.
[color=red][ Again, here is this negro woman spewing her hatred for Whites that take a stand against the madness her kind perpetuates. - gb ][/color]
The progress[color=red][ ? ][/color] we have made as a country rich in diversity and proud of the heritage of so many countries and cultures should not be lost or overlooked when controversies such as this one spill into the public. At the same time, we can't ignore or minimize the potential severity that hate groups can still have.
[color=red][ This SHOULD include ALL groups that are destroying White America, as those "HATE" groups hate Whites that care about a White America and do not want our nation to turn into a third world cess pool of filth and disease. - gb ][/color]
Diligence against any sign of injustice and hate is a welcome attitude - the more we have it, the less we'll need it.
[color=red][ Concerned Whites are diligent about groups that are destroying America and turning our nation into a filthy sewer. - gb ][/color]
"We are better than this. I have the full faith and confidence in the good virtues of the people of Mercer County and New Jersey to reject and repudiate all tenants of the white supremacist group and its members."
[color=red][ Here is this negro woman telling folks from her position in government to reject racially aware Whites and their champions - gb ][/color]
2003-07-14 15:06 | User Profile
You beat me to some of the points Hugh :)
Moran wrote regularly for VNN as 'Marc Moran'....he had to know this was coming. If he hadn't felt compelled to swagger, and signed his work "Yahoodi Blowfish" instead.... he'd be in office tomorrow morning.
I don't think it was motivated by vain glory Il Ragno. There are a couple of problems with hiding (and yes - it is hiding) behind nom de plumes, internet handles and whatnot. First there is a certain deligitimising effect on the message being presented. The choir may not care about the reasons for anonymity but it raises questions with the congregation, such as: what is this person hiding? Secondly it just plain feels like crap because it is contrary to an honourable man's desire to fight in the open. I believe Moran expressed sentiments to this effect on VNN.
Moran has also written that it is best to state our beliefs openly, uncompromisingly and unapologetically - reasoning I fully agree with. Granted he appears to have u-turned on this if the recent, but sketchy, reports are anything to go by. It's an unfortunate irony that the people with the most to defend, family men, are the least appropriate to do the defending. They're simply too vulnerable. The lice masquerading as humans hold no reservations on assaulting our weak spots. On the bright side the current system has a knack for producing embittered single White men with little to lose.
I too must congratulate you on your writing IR, always incisive.
I remember a discussion in an AR article (I think that's where I read it) about a certain number of folks having to "take a hit" before the critical mass starts to swarm.
Something I?ve though about a great deal Hugh, enough to give it my own mental label - ?over-the-top syndrome? - in reference to WWI trench warfare. The first guys over-the-top get machine gunned to pieces, only the second or third wave will reach the enemy lines. So who wants to sacrifice themselves for their race today? Show of hands please ;)
2003-07-14 15:17 | User Profile
I feel bad that Moran went down the way he did, but, at the very least, looking at the way ZOG picked up and vilified a virtual unknown councilman in a locality snuggled away in nowheresville USA because of his association with a group that espouses Whites' rights to self-determination, mostly via internet...... totally reinforces the fact that we are [u]right[/u] about everything we believe is wrong with our country. Moran and even Jim Giles might be the first little giants to leap 'over-the-top' but we know there's going to be more guys coming up from the trenches. We are going to win eventually. I just hope Marc Moran continues to write essays on VNN.
2003-07-14 15:21 | User Profile
Something Iââ¬â¢ve though about a great deal Hugh, enough to give it my own mental label - ââ¬Ëover-the-top syndromeââ¬â¢ - in reference to WWI trench warfare. The first guys over-the-top get machine gunned to pieces, only the second or third wave will reach the enemy lines. So who wants to sacrifice themselves for their race today? Show of hands please.
The original Ku Klux Klan found a way around the trench.
2003-07-14 15:26 | User Profile
I must say that Moran's handling of this whole thing has been a big, greasy let-down. He should have prepared himself for the wholly predictable jewsmedia firestorm with cool, logical answers to their smears. Instead he panicked like a deer in the headlights and hurriedly sputtered a load of garbage about not being a racist or an anti-Semite. If only he'd said "Yes, it's true. I don't like murdering blacks & mexicans, or the nation-destroying jews who let them in, and I want them all out of White America - just like the Founding Fathers did. Next question?", the hymedia hirelings would've been the ones knocked off balance, not him. No ridiculous denials to gleefully "expose" with excerpts from internet articles. Just a hell of a lot of amusingly impotent rage.
(Last bit deleted after simmering down.)
2003-07-14 16:10 | User Profile
It should also be noted that the "HATER" is Bonnie Coleman and her kind. The "HATED" is people like Marc Moran.
2003-07-14 19:02 | User Profile
**If only he'd said "Yes, it's true. I don't like murdering blacks & mexicans, or the nation-destroying jews who let them in, and I want them all out of White America - just like the Founding Fathers did. Next question?", the hymedia hirelings would've been the ones knocked off balance, not him. **
And, upon receipt of a videotape of you saying that exact thing on the local TV news whilst standing on your front lawn, I'll agree.
2003-07-14 19:19 | User Profile
**If only he'd said "Yes, it's true. I don't like murdering blacks & mexicans, or the nation-destroying jews who let them in, and I want them all out of White America - just like the Founding Fathers did. Next question?", the hymedia hirelings would've been the ones knocked off balance, not him. **
And, upon receipt of a videotape of you saying that exact thing on the local TV news whilst standing on your front lawn, I'll agree.
Hugh, your remark about "videotape" reminded me of Pete Wilson's CA Gubanatorial re-election campaign a few years back. His commericals featured video footage of wetbacks pouring across the border, and joining in the "Rodney King" riot, excuse me, "rebellion" of '92. He caught a lot of crap from the press, but easily won re-election. That said, he was still an ass-kisser to the tribe on many issues. However, the commercials showed that firing the truth right into the mics and lenses of the enemy can resonate with whites, even after decades of brainwashing, and as long as the problems have become personal, as the millions of low IQ squatters from Mexico have become a personal problem for Southern and Central Californians. So ... Wilson said what he said about the bean dogs, and lived to tell. A small act, but a lesson. Moran probably should have stuck it out a bit longer. At the same time, how many of us would be ruined, our families in dire need if we were on the local news bitching about filthy wetbacks and hypocritical jews?
I don't know the area in which Moran lives very well, but I'd bet it's too nice for much of the NA's rhetoric to ring true with many of the residents. For now. Yeah, maybe with some who've fled the urban jungles, but most whites are still "out of touch" with the problems folks like us are fully aware of. For now.
Moran's comments during the radio interview were very disappointing. (If you haven't heard them, you can dl it from Overthrow.com) He danced around certain issues, saying that just because you belong to an organization it doesn't mean you agree with all of their ideals. True enough, but he was being disingenuous when he said he joined the NA solely because of illegal immigration. The host of the show may have been a bit derisive when he gave Moran an opening to comment on jews, but the chance was there, and Moran could have brought up some issues without sounding like the Nazi Nutcases the news media loves to put on the air. Some quick examples of hypocrisy would have been fine, as the yahoodis would have had to counter those while firing their usual charges Moran's way.
While being disappointed, at the same time I can't help but feel sympathy for Moran. He is truly a marked man. Hopefully, he will still be able to take care of his family. Yet, things like this are good, as the old "worse is better" scenario seems to be coming to fruition. More and more fed up whites are going to try and change things, and more and more will be hounded, attacked. It will become personal for many many whites. In many ways. You can only kick a dog for so long ...
The kicking is reaching its peak, so make sure you brush every night.
2003-07-14 19:56 | User Profile
** Il Ragno wrote:
Jews demand - in print! - the violent overthrow of nations, and the premeditated murders of troublesome individuals, all the time... **
Il Ragno nailed it, as usual. Jews were Nazis before Nazis existed. And they were not nearly as kind as Hitler and Co. Yet if I suggest that Jews are simply no-good "sheenies," I am labeled an "extremist" who "pathologically hates Jews." [That might be true :) ]. In fact. FreedomUnderground BB banned me WITHOUT my use of the mild term "sheenie." Go figger....
Jews set up, Jews knock down [tm]. The game is always played on THE JEWS' TERMS. [A lesson for Tex there: his nice-guyness will amount to....nothing in the end. Tex will simply be another dead nice-guy :D There will be many such guys in about 2030].
2003-07-14 20:50 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Hugh Lincoln@Jul 14 2003, 19:02 * ** And, upon receipt of a videotape of you saying that exact thing on the local TV news whilst standing on your front lawn, I'll agree. **
So in your opinion Mr. Moran handled the situation correctly when he tiptoed around the issues of racism & anti-zhidism, rather than addressing those issues head on * like he'd repeatedly done in his writings?* How much harder could the jewsmedia lackeys have been on him if he'd made a clean breast of things? My point was that he could've stymied the attack of those filth if he'd counterattacked with the cold truth and examples of past American leaders who agreed with that truth. It's only when pro-Whites go into a defensive crouch and begin making denials that they leave themselves open to even more devastating attacks.
2003-07-15 01:41 | User Profile
Given what he wrote, Moran couldn't have signed his work in anything other than defiance. Which is admirable and courageous. And I don't think he punked out at the end. He just didn't think things through, going in.
It's true that his employees were never going to fire him , nor were his family & immediate neighbors going to shun him like leprosy, so he might've thought I have my base secure - I can maintain control. And then things spun [u]out [/u]of his control.
But, lookit - there are more pressing reasons to adopt a pseudonym than someday I might seek elected office. There are malicious pranksters and just plain nuts to spare prowling the Web, not to mention professional identity thieves. Writing for VNN and posting your address and phone number when you have a wife and three kids to think about is CRAZY.
Linder's single, Strom doesn't live in the Jew/black-intensive Northeast, Taylor is as close to 'respectable' as they'll allow, with some media savvy to him. By no means am I demeaning these guys for laying it on the line, but - whether they like it or not - they are seen as 100% full-time professional racists. That's fine if you're in a position to actually be a full-time professional racist....if you can somehow earn a living from it, or otherwise not need to pull a 9-to-5. It becomes much more difficult if you're chained to a standard day job. But that's all secondary to my main point: **you do not, under any circumstances, volunteer personal information - on you or anybody you know who shares your beliefs - to ZOG. **
You may not be able to avoid giving them some of your money. You may not be able to fully protect yourself or those around you from their 24/7 indoctrination of the mooing herd. But you can and must refuse to leave Mark Chertoff a bread crumb trail to your front door. You think America sucks now? Imagine what it'll feel like when you get Zundeled or Duked. Better a free guerilla than a caged martyr. At least that's my feeling.
It's not as if pseudonyms, ludicrous or otherwise, never came in handy for racists who've won culture wars against huge odds, after all. Gosh, name-changing and protective coloration served them quite well and still continues to, from Lev Bronstein to Murray Rothstein and beyond.
2003-07-15 06:46 | User Profile
Jeez; things like this are like hammering explosive nails into Moran's coffin. Politically dead or not, he'll never rest in peace now. Yet another questionable example of Bill White's curious style of "advocacy".
Bill White
Trenton, NJ -- Hello all: I apologize for not having done a news burst today but things have been very busy.
The Trentonian is doing a story on our harassing and threatening New Jersey officials, particularly the dumb nier Don Addison. I want to admit that I was among those who shared my opinion with Mr Addison -- namely, I called him up, told him he was a dumb nier, that he didn't deserve to hold public office, and that he should f*ck off, among others things. This upset him a great deal -- enough that he turned his phone off over the weekend, and that he is now complaining to the press.
The Jew owned [media] in New Jersey wants this pet ni**er elected, and they are going to run a sob story about how terribly we oppressed him. The oppression he and others caused Marc Moran, if, of course, being beyond their limited ability to comprehend.
I would suggest all of you continue to let these officials know what you think of what occurred. I was called for an interview by the Trentonian, and I've told them to take their article and shove it. I would suggest anyone contacted by them do the same.
To be frank, I wouldn't be sorry if all these officials in New Jersey, and all these kke and kke owned reporters, were rounded up and shot, so my sympathy for their article and their point of view is about zero.
Just wanted to let folk know though, we will be stars tomorrow. Plus, the press coverage is doing great things for VNN -- VNN Forum broke the top 4000 websites and VNN is breaking the top 5000, with the readership share about doubling.
:-D
2003-07-15 13:22 | User Profile
Yeah. What kind of a "friend" is this? I'm suspicious of this dude.
2003-07-15 14:56 | User Profile
George the Corgi weighs in on the AR-list about the Moran debacle below. No surprise to learn what he considers to be "outside the realm of civilized discourse."
**Subj: [arlist] Re: Politician in NJ steps down Date: 7/15/03 10:41:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: georgecorgi@earthlink.net Reply-to: arlist@yahoogroups.com To: arlist@yahoogroups.com
Don't be disingenuous. He is an active member of the National Alliance and said several things, in their publications, outside the realm of civilized discourse. He was appointed, not elected, to his seat, to fill out the term of another Republican. It is far from impossible to suspect that the town has a Democrat council majority and nominated him to the slot simply to embarass local Republicans. This kind of one-upsmanship is commonplace in NJ municipal politics. When a council member of the minority party dies or otherwise has to relinquish his seat, a member of his party must be appointed to replace him. So, you try to appoint the most obnoxious, disliked, disloyal, hated member of his party to the slot. It sounds like the town Nazi in Hopewell registered as a Republican and was naturally appointed by the Democrats to fill the rest of the expired term.
Once his record became general knowledge people became understandably outraged. Hopewell is an affluent suburb of Trenton, the NJ state capital, and has a large Jewish community. **
2003-07-15 17:17 | User Profile
By no means am I demeaning these guys for laying it on the line, but - whether they like it or not - they are seen as 100% full-time professional racists. That's fine if you're in a position to actually be a full-time professional racist..
I think that is a misuse of the term. It might be taken as applying to White America First politics, which is essentially non-racist, in the lower, politicized sense, but whose domain has been invaded by those precisely of this opposite, lower racial strain, making it a political, cultural, existential, and economic impossibility to tolerate them, who call US cancer", therefore deliberately take on the mantle of (psychologically "projected") "racism.
But although one might accurately call me, for onstance, a professional philosophical anti-Jew (Old Adam by type: Jews are like cholesterol), I no more regard myself as a professional racist (apart from insisting on the White way as the right way -- not in the poliltical sense) than a professional homophobe, misogynist (but, no question, lesbians on camus hated me, because of the gays in the military stand I took: one of the fem-plilo profs had been a Navy officer!), or anti-Irish :punk: (just kidding!)
Everybody gets out of the room alive, no bones broken, as along as nobody's origins of native American spiritual heritage are not "dissed" (I would say --"-issed", with the "p", but want to keep it clean - a possible), and replaced by someone else's sacral sacra-iliatic jimconfoolery packeged up to look like John Wayne strapping Peggy Noonan, Ronald Reagan's voice reaching out to Conservatives of America, reading jewsweek and touching lives of millions, at home and and abroad.
But when that happens -- when the springs of the stream communication and higher quality of life have been "watered" by the [u]philosophorum mercurius[/u] -- the lower side; darkening -- it becomes a matter, not of violence, except to oneself, if one does not stand up for what they preach. And no one can constrain another, rightfully, in person or influence, as long as it is non coersive, in pursuit of their White American Identity.
So, I guess I am not understanding what you are saying about Moran, even though I defended Howell Raines in these posts -- backhandedly --maybe for the same "there but for the grace of god" reasoning.
But this board, which I take very seriously, developed the broad justification for what he said, last March, to the point that his saying it caused us, and the nation to hold its breath, I think literally, in a sense, squinching the leg-muscle-on-the-war pedal, because the wheels were coming off their little dunebuggy... If he steps aside without reversing the "you are cancer" charges, his weakness makes us "cancer". I don't know whether you can see that or not.
regards .. :rock:
2003-07-15 21:29 | User Profile
I can't stand "George Corgi." What kind of a gay name is that, anyway? I thought that was a fruity little dog owned by queens.
2003-07-15 21:34 | User Profile
That's fine if you're in a position to actually be a full-time professional racist.
OK, new thought, same thread.
The quote above is true. What would put you in that position? Money. The green stuff. Financial security. Am I wrong? If your goal is nothing but the legal advocacy of White interests, what could stop you? All you're risking is social rejection, which, if you don't care, ain't no thang.
Question I have is, why aren't there more out there? I mean, are Whites so bad off that there isn't ONE more White guy, say in his 40s, 50s or 60s, who's got the cash to go out on a limb? From an inheritance, even?
Or, how could we get together a guy with such cash with a guy willing to go out on a limb?
2003-07-17 12:46 | User Profile
Just came across this on the VNN fourm. Dissapointing is an understatement. Going to ground to protect his family is one thing but this?
[url=http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1058429189147150.xml]Moran cuts ties to hate group[/url] - NJ Times
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"I'm done. I've renounced this organization. The things (about the group) I disagree with far outweigh the things I do agree with."
...
"You (reporters) brought up things I didn't know about the organization," Moran said recently. "I'm ashamed that I didn't fully investigate the group before joining."
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Moran, whose neighbors said he was a great family man and a wonderful neighbor, says he is not a racist but is "racially aware" and that he joined the National Alliance amid fear and anger after Muslim terrorists flew hijacked planes into the World Trade Center on Sept. 11.
"I was searching for answers to questions we all had. But the National Alliance was not the answer. I see that now," Moran said Tuesday.
Moran said he, like many Americans, was trying to make sense of the attacks. "I remember asking all kinds of questions about why (the terrorists) did this to us," he said. "I didn't buy the government's explanation that they did it because they hate us for our freedom and democracy."
Moran did not want to discuss details of his indoctrination[<_< ] into the National Alliance, but a study conducted by a Michigan anti-racism group said many white-supremacist groups used terrorism fears after 9/11 to recruit new members.
According to the study, the National Alliance in particular called on the United States to close its borders and handed out leaflets blaming the attacks on the Jews and America's support of Israel. "Let's Stop Being Human Shields for Israel," one flier read.
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[Much further down the article] Moran said he should not have publicized his sentiments. "My wife was right. I should have written everything down in a diary instead of posting it on the Internet. I could have looked at it years later and said, `What did I go through back then?' But I didn't. I made a mistake and I've paid for it." **
[url=http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=978]VNN thread on the subject[/url]
2003-07-18 01:57 | User Profile
I can't believe this guys grovelling!
2003-07-18 02:59 | User Profile
Talk about bowing low.......... :blink: That fellow sure played everybody to the left like Jeff. So much for being Man enough to stand for principals that one believes in.
You are a fine example Mr. Moran.
I am glad he bowed out though, at least his true colors are shining through for all of the world to see. :thd:
2003-07-18 03:55 | User Profile
OK. I gave it a few days. I'm stepping back from my initial defense of Marc Moran. His latest quotes are pretty revolting. Fat lies, I can assure you. Who the f*ck were you, Marc Moran?
2003-07-18 04:34 | User Profile
That 'VNN thread on the subject' has been unavailable for viewing since this story went up at OVERTHROW:
[url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?showtopic=9434&st=0&#entry51284]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...t=0&#entry51284[/url]
I have nothing against strategic hidden alliances, but they fail to serve any strategic purpose once you quit hiding them, no?
2003-07-18 06:09 | User Profile
Originally posted by N.B. Forrest+Jul 14 2003, 14:50 -->
QUOTE* (N.B. Forrest @ Jul 14 2003, 14:50 ) <!--QuoteBegin-Hugh Lincoln@Jul 14 2003, 19:02 * ** And, upon receipt of a videotape of you saying that exact thing on the local TV news whilst standing on your front lawn, I'll agree. ** So in your opinion Mr. Moran handled the situation correctly when he tiptoed around the issues of racism & anti-zhidism, rather than addressing those issues head on * like he'd repeatedly done in his writings?* How much harder could the jewsmedia lackeys have been on him if he'd made a clean breast of things? My point was that he could've stymied the attack of those filth if he'd counterattacked with the cold truth and examples of past American leaders who agreed with that truth. It's only when pro-Whites go into a defensive crouch and begin making denials that they leave themselves open to even more devastating attacks. **
Exactly, Moran blew his chance! It's too bad, I enjoyed his writings on VNN, etc. I figured we needed someone like him to speak up. Atleast to let the world know that america is in a world of sh*t?
N.B. Forrest
2003-07-18 06:45 | User Profile
Moran said he should not have publicized his sentiments. "My wife was right. I should have written everything down in a diary instead of posting it on the Internet. I could have looked at it years later and said, `What did I go through back then?' But I didn't. I made a mistake and I've paid for it."
"Yes - my sweet wife was sooo right! She's always been the cautious, prudent one, the one who knows what is or isn't Acceptable. I should've listened to you, darling! I've been a loudmouthed fool, but I won't ever again make the terrible mistake of saying or even thinking anything without your prior approval! Nevernevernever!
Um - may I fade back into obscurity now, Mr. Lipschitz? I-I've learned my lesson, and I'll be a good goy from now on, I promise! Pretty please??"
:dung: :thd:
Avalanche
2003-07-18 14:11 | User Profile
**Hugh Lincoln: I remember a discussion in an AR article (I think that's where I read it) about a certain number of folks having to "take a hit" before the critical mass starts to swarm. I welcome OD comments on this thought. Seems to be something to it. ** I think this-all reinforces the need for everyone to be ââ¬Ërecruitingââ¬â¢ on a one-on-one basis (all the time!). We NEED that critical mass, and to get there, we need to be adding people, carefully and without sticking our heads up to be shot off. I am SO grateful to people like Moran and Duke and Linder and Taylor ââ¬â all these folks who have been willing to destroy their own lives ââ¬â because I just canNOT afford to destroy my life! I havenââ¬â¢t the skills to live as they do, and so I do what I CAN to make a difference, and support those who are fighting on the front lines. How many of youââ¬â¢all have sent money and letters of support to Ernst and David and Chester? Are you ââ¬Ågonna get to it one of these days?ââ¬Â While weââ¬â¢re back behind the lines recruiting, theyââ¬â¢re out on the front lines! How are WE supporting those who are taking a hit for us? (Mark Moran may have folded, and I fer shure guess he was being threatened or more likely his FAMILY was being threatened, but LOOK! the whole issue is being discussed! In baseball, itââ¬â¢s called a sacrifice; so too, in real life!)
** na Gaeil is gile: Secondly it just plain feels like crap because it is contrary to an honourable man's desire to fight in the open. **
Bad strategy, when itââ¬â¢s just one man against an army, no? An HONOURABLE man will want to fight a battle he has SOME chance of winning. Merely getting mowed down by our enemies for standing honourably erect in a bright red coat and marching toward guerillas isnââ¬â¢t honourable, itââ¬â¢s STUPID! (Well, it may BE honourable, but itââ¬â¢s STILL stupid!)
Iââ¬â¢m sorry that Moran had to cut and run, but Iââ¬â¢m grateful he at least stood up in the first place! Iââ¬â¢m sorry David had to plead guilty just to protect himself from ââ¬Åourââ¬Â ââ¬Åjusticeââ¬Â system, but he has my undying gratitude and respect for his entire LIFE spent on my behalf! Iââ¬â¢m HORRIFIED that Ernest has been kidnapped and held hostage, and I feel the same about him: gratitude and love and hope. And I use these men over and over as exemplars in my recruiting efforts.
Jim Moran (of all people) has been a useful ticket for one friend who -- after Moran was tarred and feathered -- approached me, cautiously and tentatively willing to at least LISTEN to what I had been trying to say about 9/11 and the israeli connections... HE (a bleeding heart liberal, who has compared himself to Mandela, as against NeoNietzsche whom he described as Charles Heston) was surprised and horrified and made VERY uncomfortable by the jews overtly showing their control by destroying someone he liked and KNEW had not said anything anti-semitic...
Most of us cannot afford to become the ones who get hit! But we CAN afford to support those who do, and work contstantly at recruiting more 'ground troops,' at awakening the people who WILL become the critical mass!
Okay, 'nough pep talk right?
Dan Dare
2003-07-18 15:01 | User Profile
N.B. wrote:
**How much harder could the jewsmedia lackeys have been on him if he'd made a clean breast of things? **
This is the real conumdrum. What on earth has happened to MM, or threatened to happen, that provoked such toe-curling and cringing denial?
Surely a few semi-literate op-eds in the local rag, and harumphs from nonentities on the tin-pot parish council can't count as serious harassment. Even a a spot of wrist-slapping from the state Republicans should have been withstandable for a man of his obvious mettle.
After all, Moran outed himself very publicly by publishing and campaigning for WN interests, so what's the big deal? What else could have he have done or said that would have been more shocking to the herd?
Is there something really sinister going on, or is the guy just a litle bats?
Franco
2003-07-19 00:42 | User Profile
** Wintermute wrote:
The "Moran affair" is puzzling in all sorts of different ways. If anyone here has an 'in' with him, maybe an invite to OD is in order? He should be encouraged to continue his racialist thought in a supportive environment, one that is famous for its non-genocidal rhetoric. **
LOL! Hey -- what are you sayin', Mute? :D
But I doubt if Marc would be very welcome here. Not after what has happened. He is now largely denounced in most WN circles....not for quitting the council but for criticizing NA in public.
il ragno
2003-07-19 00:57 | User Profile
But I doubt if Marc would be very welcome here. Not after what has happened.
Well, I'd welcome him, if only to get his side of it. But you can forget "Marc Moran" for the next few years. He may have said what he said to get Them to lay off his family, but now he's neatly painted into a corner. He even [u]tries [/u]to post on a paleo/WN board and back on page 1 he goes! In the Jersey papers at least.
Gee, if Marc had signed his stirring VNN op-eds as "Yahoodi Blowfish" he'd be Our Stealth Candidate today. Now Mr No-Pseudonyms-For-Me will have to adopt "Yahoodi" if he intends to engage in a nationalist dialogue with anyone ever again. I normally hate people who say "it's ironic" but....you know....