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tiny123 [OP]

2003-07-09 03:07 | User Profile

:mellow: :mellow: I AM PART OF THE ONE TRUE RACE!!!!! " THE HUMAN RACE" THERE IS NO COLOR IN THIS RACE...BLACK IS THE ABSENCE OF LIGHT AND WHITE IS THE LIGHT REFLECTED BACK...HOW CAN YOU BE RACIAL?? :angry: :mellow:


Ragnar

2003-07-09 03:12 | User Profile

Congratulations.

Now learn how to use the shift button.


Walter E Kurtz

2003-07-09 03:13 | User Profile

*Originally posted by tiny123@Jul 8 2003, 21:07 * ** :mellow: :mellow: I AM PART OF THE ONE TRUE RACE!!!!! " THE HUMAN RACE" THERE IS NO COLOR IN THIS RACE...BLACK IS THE ABSENCE OF LIGHT AND WHITE IS THE LIGHT REFLECTED BACK...HOW CAN YOU BE RACIAL?? :angry: :mellow: **

  1. Define "Being Racial"

  2. Your analysis of the differences between Whites and Blacks sounds like a 3rd grade art teacher trying to explain to her class how people percieve primary colors. Suffice to say that this is an insufficient analysis.


Kurt

2003-07-09 03:15 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Ragnar@Jul 8 2003, 21:12 * ** Congratulations.

Now learn how to use the shift button. **

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Übeltäter

2003-07-09 04:09 | User Profile

*Originally posted by tiny123@Jul 8 2003, 21:07 * ** I AM PART OF THE ONE TRUE RACE!!!!! " THE HUMAN RACE" THERE IS NO COLOR IN THIS RACE...BLACK IS THE ABSENCE OF LIGHT AND WHITE IS THE LIGHT REFLECTED BACK...HOW CAN YOU BE RACIAL?? **

The Human "Race" is a fallacy. As far as I know english only has this term. Homo sapien sapiens is our spieces, not a race. There are three major races of man: Negroid, Monogloid, and Caucasoid - the later brought about civilization. No difference? Your naiveté is very amusing, and firm proof of P.C. indoctrination.


Texas Dissident

2003-07-09 06:45 | User Profile

I fully realize the silliness of this post by our new member and have my doubts whether or not he or she will ever stick around and debate the questions posed. Nevertheless, for the benefit of the many, many lurkers we entertain let me offer up a challenge to our finest racialist minds here on OD.

How about making this a consolidated thread putting our best foot forward in order to answer the question, "How can you be racial?" I know we have great posts made here and there that serve to answer this question throughout the board, but I'm thinking of one banner thread that I could pin and could be linked to throughout the internet that explains once and for all the answer to this question. No senseless one line slurs or childish taunts, please. Without a doubt I like to advertise this place as possessing some of the finest minds in current nationalist/conservative/racialist thought, so can we focus our efforts here on this thread to answer this question decisively and intelligently? And instead of having the topic degenerate into replies that dispute other's points, let those who are making the racialist case only respond to the initial post. A interesting sub-plot will be the observation of why each 'racialist' comes to their respective viewpoint.

Is anyone here willing to take up the challenge? I'm giving you an audience from a soapbox that Alexa currently ranks below 20,000. What do y'all say?


Texas Dissident

2003-07-09 07:41 | User Profile

Originally posted by wintermute@Jul 9 2003, 02:28 * P.S. Just to sweeten the pot here, what does our Alexa ranking of 20,000 translate out to in terms of sheeple per diem?*

Right now we're averaging about 2500 to 3000 unique visitors to our pages each day, more or less.

As to clarifying the question, well let me see. How 'bout, given our present day realities as we commonly understand them, why do self-described 'racialists' believe that viewing the world via a paradigm of race, to a greater or lesser degree, is necessary?

That may still be vague, but it's late and the best I'm able to do right now. Please go easy. :)


il ragno

2003-07-09 08:54 | User Profile

**No senseless one line slurs or childish taunts, please. **

So much for my contribution then!


na Gaeil is gile

2003-07-09 11:41 | User Profile

Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Jul 9 2003, 01:41 * How 'bout, given our present day realities as we commonly understand them, why do self-described 'racialists' believe that viewing the world via a paradigm of race, to a greater or lesser degree, is necessary?*

Seems straight forward to me but the question is phrased in a manner which lies well beyond tiny's, and other anti-racist's, current level of comprehension. It's a tedious task but the non sequiturs of the antis must be addressed before any meaningful discussion can proceed. Tiny's post, short as it is, contains two:

  1. Confusion of race with species
  2. Skin pigmentation is the only significant racial delimiter

Off the top of my head I can add:

  1. Jews are white (see 2.)
  2. Hair splitting nonsense. Who is white? There are no precise borders between the races, etc.
  3. 99% similar DNA, genetics has shown us we all the same
  4. Anything ever written by Noel Ignatiev (see 3.)

A trawl through the Stormfront General Rants section maybe useful here.

We need to refute the patently absurd before we freely deal with the significant issues such as nature versus nurture, cultural homogeny versus multicult and altruism versus parasitism. Perhaps two threads are in order, one to deal with the ridiculous and a more serious debate to address the meat of the subject?


Übeltäter

2003-07-09 20:19 | User Profile

[color=black]Equality: Man's Most Dangerous Myth[/color] [color=red]by Dr. William L. Pierce[/color]

All racial differences are either genetic (hereditary, inborn) or cultural (acquired from society after birth). The latter can be changed or eliminated by enforced social changes; the former are independent of man's laws and customs, except over a period of many generations.

Examples of cultural traits which differ from race to race are mannerisms of speech ("Amos 'n' Andy" dialect or "Black English"), styles of dress, and personal grooming. If Blacks and Whites are forced to live together from birth, attending the same schools and exposed to exactly the same cultural influences, they will grow up speaking and dressing in very nearly the same manner. Even Blacks who have grown up in the tribal areas of Africa and who customarily distort their earlobes or lips with huge wooden plugs or plaster their hair with liquid cow dung as a means of attracting Blacks of the opposite sex can be trained to adopt White standards of personal cleanliness and grooming.

The fact is, however, that the most important racial differences are genetic rather than cultural. Skin and eye color, facial features, skull shape, skeletal proportions, patterns of body fat disposition, tooth size, jaw shape, female breast form, odor, and hair texture are only the most noticeable genetically determined physical characteristics which differ racially.

Beyond these things are the entire biochemical constitution and development of the individual. There are profound racial differences in blood chemistry, in endocrine function, and in physiological response to environmental stimuli. Blacks and Whites mature at different rates. They have different susceptibilities to many disease organisms as well as different patterns of congenital disease. They even have different nutritional requirements.

Racial differences, in other words, are much more than skin deep; they permeate the individual and are manifested in virtually every cell of his body. They are the products of millions of years of separate evolutionary development which has adapted the different races, with considerable precision to different environmental demands.

When we understand the all pervading nature of genetic racial differences, we can see that cultural racial differences are not so superficial as some would have us believe. Far from masking any fundamental "equality" or exaggerating racial dissimilarities, they simply manifest the genetic differences of which they are, in fact, expressions.

The culture of a race, free of alien influences, is telling evidence of that race's essential nature. The African Negro with a cow-dung hairdo, a bone through his nose, and teeth filed down to sharp points, in other words, presents to us a far more accurate image of the Negro essence than does the American Black in a business suit who has been trained to drive an automobile, operate a typewriter, and speak flawless English.

Negro culture is not merely DIFFERENT from White culture; it is a LESS ADVANCED culture and, by practically any standard, INFERIOR. It is a culture which never advanced to the point of a written language or a civilized society. It never saw even the barest glimmerings of mathematics or the invention of the wheel. The smelting and use of metals and the quarrying and dressing of stone for architectural purposes are crafts that were taught to the Negro by members of other races. The hokum currently being served up in the schools about a centuries-old Negro "civilization" based on the ruins of stone walls found at Zimbabwe, in Rhodesia [note: at the time of this writing, the country was still called Rhodesia] is simply the product of wishful thinking by proponents of racial equality who are willing to ignore all facts which conflict with their equalitarian mania.

Negro culture inferiority is the consequence of the physical inadequacy of the Negro brain in dealing with abstract concepts. On the other hand, the Negro shows an ability approaching that of the White at mental tasks requiring only memory. That is why the Negro can be trained relatively easily to adapt to many aspects of White culture.

His verbal ability and his ability to imitate allow him, when properly motivated, to assume much of the outward appearance of "equality." In a decade of special college-admission quotas for Blacks, many thousands of Blacks have obtained college diplomas -- but only in those disciplines in which a glib tongue and a good memory suffice. There have been virtually no Black graduates in the physical sciences and very few in engineering.

Thus the Negroes inability to handle the abstract concepts required in problem-solving and technological innovation make a mockery of outward appearances. And this inability is genetic in nature, rooted in the physical structure of the Negro brain.

Until the post-World War II campaign to blend the White and Negro races began in earnest, the Negro's mental limitations were common knowledge. The 11th edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica, for example, says of the Negro, in part:

"...Other characteristics appear to be hypertrophy of the organs of excretion, a more developed venous system, and a less voluminous brain, as compared with the White races."

"In certain of the characteristics mentioned above the Negro would appear to stand on a lower evolutionary plane than the White man, and to be more closely related to the highest anthropoids ...."

"Mentally the Negro is inferior to the White ... While with the latter the volume of the brain grows with the expansion of the brainpan, in the former the growth of the brain is on the contrary arrested by the premature closing of the cranial sutures and lateral pressure of the frontal bone." And the 1932 edition of the Encyclopedia Americana lists, among the distinguishing characteristics of the Negro race, the following:

"3. Weight of brain, 35 ounces (in gorilla 20 ounces, average Caucasian 45 ounces) ...." "8. Exceedingly thick cranium, enabling him to use the head as a weapon of attack ...."

"14. The cranial sutures, which close much earlier in the Negro than in other races."

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As the media stepped up their flow of "equality" propaganda, later editions of these encyclopedias simply deleted the racial data on Blacks. One had to turn to specialized medical texts to learn that the associative areas of the brain, where abstract thought takes place, are less developed in the Negro than in the White.

It has been well known since the large-scale intelligence testing of U.S. Army recruits in World War I that the average Negro IQ is approximately 15 per cent below that of the average White. Apologists for the Blacks have tried to explain away the earlier test scores as being due to the effects of segregated schools and Black poverty; i.e. they claimed the tests were "culturally biased."

Later IQ tests, however, showed essentially the same degree of Black deficiency in IQ: whether Black graduates of integrated high schools were tested against White graduates of the same schools, or Blacks in a certain socio-economic category against similarly categorized Whites, the Blacks always scored substantially lower, even though standard IQ tests measure memory skills as well as purely associative ability. Tests which focus on the latter type of mental function show a much larger difference between Black and White scores.

But it is precisely the ability to associate concepts, to deal with abstractions, to mentally extrapolate the present into the future that has allowed the White race to build and maintain its civilization, and it is the Negro's deficiency in this regard which kept him in a state of savagery in his African environment and is now undermining the civilization of a racially mixed America. That is why it is vitally important for every White person to understand that there can be no such thing as "equality" between Whites and Blacks, regardless of the amount of racial mixing forced on Americans by the government.


Franco

2003-07-09 20:48 | User Profile

Ok, I'm game for Tex's suggestion.

Tex will please add this to the new thread about "how can you be racial?," wherever it may appear:

"Whites gave the world to the human race. Almost every important achievement in human history came from Whites. All White countries are very successful. All non-White countries are the opposite: they are pits of misery, toilets or semi-toilets; yet there are many more non-White countries than White countries, proving that White superiority is indeed genuine."

'nuff said. I ya can't grasp that, yer brain is leaking.


weisbrot

2003-07-11 19:09 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Jul 9 2003, 03:41 * **

As to clarifying the question, well let me see. How 'bout, given our present day realities as we commonly understand them, why do self-described 'racialists' believe that viewing the world via a paradigm of race, to a greater or lesser degree, is necessary?

**

I believe it is necessary because it is unavoidable.

Not that the concept of viewing the world via a paradigm of race goes seeking the unconverted or the unconvinced. It simply is; the question might better be:

How can any thinking man NOT view the world as it is today through a paradigm of race?