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Thread ID: 7796 | Posts: 78 | Started: 2003-07-02
2003-07-02 20:22 | User Profile
How about we stop using words like "Mud" which is a derrogatory remark for anyone who is not White. This word is even illogical, since, because East Asians and Jews are smarter than Whites, us White people would be the true Muds, when compared to the Jews/East Asians. Maybe I'll change my handle to "Caucasian Mud."
And what about the word "queer." Is the term "homosexual" not sufficient enough to get the message across?
Regards,
Ares
2003-07-02 20:32 | User Profile
I haven't seen the term "mud" used much on this forum.
2003-07-02 20:40 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Prodigal Son@Jul 2 2003, 14:32 * ** I haven't seen the term "mud" used much on this forum. **
I just saw the term in the "Immigration" section.
Regards,
Ares
2003-07-02 20:45 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Leland Gaunt@Jul 2 2003, 14:40 * ** How about we use the language we like? whatever happend to "Freedom of Speech"? If there is something I hate, then it's being patronized by hypersensetive, political correct crybabies. **
I must agree with Mr. Gaunt. I believe in freedom of speech. I would, however, prefer that people steer clear of using racial epiphets, for the sole reason that they can scare away somebody who can be a potential recruit to our cause. Our public image will always be twisted by the ADL, Citizens Against Whites, etc... but if a non-WN who doesn't think like one of the crowd of sheeple decides to verify this image for himself, hopefully he will find OD a place of civil discourse.
2003-07-02 20:48 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Leland Gaunt@Jul 2 2003, 14:40 * ** How about we use the language we like? whatever happend to "Freedom of Speech"? If there is something I hate, then it's being patronized by hypersensetive, political correct crybabies. **
The First Amendment means one has the right to speak freely using their own paper, their own printing press, their own server, their own voice. It does not mean you have the right to coerce someone else to use their communication mediums to fit your needs.
If you want a forum where you can use profanity and derogatory remarks, check out [url=http://www.stormfront.org/forum/]http://www.stormfront.org/forum/[/url]
using proper language is not about political correctness or sensitivity, it is about creating an image that will get the support of the masses. I ask you, do you not want the White masses to support Paleo-Conservatism? Do you actually believe that using negative language will get the masses to flock to us? would you rather watch Western civilization die as long as you have the right to use fowl language at OD?
Regards,
Ares
2003-07-02 21:02 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Leland Gaunt@Jul 2 2003, 15:40 * ** How about we use the language we like? whatever happend to "Freedom of Speech"? **
There is no ultimate freedom of speech here at OD. Please revisit the board guidelines. I don't think I have been unclear on this matter. I try to keep the topics on-topic and believe that coarse language, slurs and slander distract from that.
If you want pure, unfettered free speech, then perhaps you would be more at home at Liberty Forum. I have never heard of any kind of censorship there.
2003-07-02 21:43 | User Profile
East Asians and Jews are smarter than Whites
Since when? I disagree strongly. A very "interesting" statement coming from a self-proclaimed WN BTW...
Personally I don't like to use insults or derogatory language, and would like to see OD remain 'civillized' with a polite exchange of ideas etc. being the norm. I believe OD's policies are quite clear on the matter.
2003-07-02 22:05 | User Profile
Originally posted by Prodigal Son+Jul 2 2003, 14:45 -->
QUOTE* (Prodigal Son @ Jul 2 2003, 14:45 ) <!--QuoteBegin-Leland Gaunt@Jul 2 2003, 14:40 * ** How about we use the language we like? whatever happend to "Freedom of Speech"? If there is something I hate, then it's being patronized by hypersensetive, political correct crybabies. ** I must agree with Mr. Gaunt. I believe in freedom of speech. I would, however, prefer that people steer clear of using racial epiphets, for the sole reason that they can scare away somebody who can be a potential recruit to our cause. Our public image will always be twisted by the ADL, Citizens Against Whites, etc... but if a non-WN who doesn't think like one of the crowd of sheeple decides to verify this image for himself, hopefully he will find OD a place of civil discourse.**
I agree with your post.
I am not one of those folks at Liberty Forum who feels quite smart and cute and liberated and engages in seemingly endless discussions of various body parts.
Having worked road construction and having been in the military, I already know how to curse and swear. It is good to have an internet forum where the language is better.
As a bonus, having a forum where there are good language standards will probably keep the jews away----those folks are extremely crude and seemingly cannot say anything without cursing or degrading someone.
Wayland
2003-07-03 01:54 | User Profile
Originally posted by Alka@Jul 2 2003, 14:43 * > East Asians and Jews are smarter than Whites*
Since when? I disagree strongly. A very "interesting" statement coming from a self-proclaimed WN BTW...**
Ares never tires of telling us how superior his Jews are to Whites. I think people should be clueing in by now.
Drakmal
2003-07-03 02:26 | User Profile
Shaping your language so that it doesn't detract from your point is a good thing, but I don't really see the problem with "mud" and (especially) "queer". They're very mild insults, not obscene at all. I doubt anybody who can't put up with such soft insults would be here at all--or would have cause to be.
Will your next suggestion be that we stop calling obese mexicans (who are numerous) "fatasses", or stop calling organized jewry and its agents "culture distorters"?
Roy Batty
2003-07-03 06:39 | User Profile
Originally posted by Wayland+Jul 2 2003, 17:54 -->
QUOTE (Wayland @ Jul 2 2003, 17:54 ) <!--QuoteBegin-Alka@Jul 2 2003, 14:43 * > East Asians and Jews are smarter than Whites* Since when? I disagree strongly. A very "interesting" statement coming from a self-proclaimed WN BTW...**
Ares never tires of telling us how superior his Jews are to Whites. I think people should be clueing in by now. **
Compare the cultural achievements of those groups with whites, and I think that belief falls by the wayside. They work as organized groups, and USE white innovation to their advantage (which is what whites should do). As mentioned in another thread, with no contact at all from whites, if whites didn't "exist", the two groups would be centuries behind where they are now.
Homosexuals? Their behavior is queer - and they can't wait to tell anyone within earshot that they are "queer". Living in L.A., I can tell you that most of them behave like the repulsive, sick fags that they are.
Wayland
2003-07-03 07:45 | User Profile
Homosexuals? Their behavior is queer - and they can't wait to tell anyone within earshot that they are "queer". Living in L.A., I can tell you that most of them behave like the repulsive, sick fags that they are.
What gets me is things like the recent Gay Pride parade in Toronto. It's bad enough having all the homos out prancing and parading and blocking traffic but the route was also jam-packed with spectators. Whole families came out to watch the spectacle, I guess so that the little kids could get to see the perverts kissing and fondling each other. WTF is with these parents?
jay
2003-07-03 14:45 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Ares@Jul 2 2003, 14:48 * ** I ask you, do you not want the White masses to support Paleo-Conservatism? Do you actually believe that using negative language will get the masses to flock to us? would you rather watch Western civilization die as long as you have the right to use fowl language at OD? **
There are 500 posters here at OD, I doubt there is any far-reaching influence that any of us carry to the "masses"
The "masses" spend more time watching pro bowling than reading O.D.
-Jay
Lady_America
2003-07-03 17:25 | User Profile
As a bonus, having a forum where there are good language standards will probably keep the jews away----those folks are extremely crude and seemingly cannot say anything without cursing or degrading someone.
I agree with you Lane. I used to visit the forum at Townhall before they got rid of it and enjoyed some of comments and dialogue that went on in there. It was quite intelligent and one could pick up on the art of writing from some of those posters who knew how to express their thoughts rationally and articulately. I am still learning to do that. It is also nice to not have to constantly read igge or such language like that, although I may use that expression in my own home or when talking to friends that also use the language to drive a point across. However, I know that some, and sometimes I may be guilty, will use it and I try to understand their point by ignoring the crude language. However, if it is really abusive, my ears turn off and my mouse starts clicking to another post.
Eendracht Maakt Mag
2003-07-03 17:25 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Drakmal@Jul 2 2003, 20:26 * ** Shaping your language so that it doesn't detract from your point is a good thing, but I don't really see the problem with "mud" and (especially) "queer". **
Drakmal: the problem is that neophytes who could perceivably be brought over to our cause might have a problem with these terms. Most WNs don't find them offensive. I honestly don't; I am simply worried about what using racial epiphets does to our public image.
Walter Yannis
2003-07-05 17:35 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Ares@Jul 2 2003, 20:22 * ** How about we stop using words like "Mud" which is a derrogatory remark for anyone who is not White. This word is even illogical, since, because East Asians and Jews are smarter than Whites, us White people would be the true Muds, when compared to the Jews/East Asians. Maybe I'll change my handle to "Caucasian Mud."
And what about the word "queer." Is the term "homosexual" not sufficient enough to get the message across?
Regards,
Ares **
I believe that the term "mud" comes from the Christian Identity narrative about how God first created mud people before he created the Adamic race.
The mud people according to their beliefs are non-whites, the Adamic race is white.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Walter
Ed Toner
2003-07-05 19:43 | User Profile
Jews brag about creating the Golem of Prague from mud to deal with we nasty goyem.
il ragno
2003-07-05 20:27 | User Profile
First of all, Ares would have us all conform to The New Rules (ie, blacks can call each other "nier" but it's ultra-forbidden for whites to do so; homosexuals may refer to themselves as "queer" but etc etc...) that have driven us to boards like OD in the first place! He wants us to celebrate hypocrisy by legislating it.
Secondly, having a venue to speak one's mind is a fundamental human need. Repress those outlets and you're guaranteeing much much harsher invective when the dam eventually breaks. Criminalize such outlets/forms of speech and the rhetoric will become even more white-hot....assuming it remains rhetoric only.
If Ares wants to buttress the status quo, and continue feeding that beast, there is no shortage of anti-racist, pro-'diversity' message boards out there for him to contribute to. But he needs to understand that for a lot of us, 'racism' is neither a necessary evil nor a method of psychological compensation.
It is a responsibility in time of plenty, and a survival mechanism in time of strife. The reason whites are such a despised (and more important, shrinking) minority among the peoples of the Earth is that we have listened to people like him for far too long.
golfball
2003-07-05 22:39 | User Profile
Originally posted by Walter Yannis I believe that the term "mud" comes from the Christian Identity narrative about how God first created mud people before he created the Adamic race.ÃÂ ****
Actually, the term "Mud" comes from the definition for mixed blood (Mixed Race). Example: See that negro and white girl over there? What ever attracted her to that mud?
or, Here comes a cabrone (Mex) with his wetta, ( White girl ), they will have a bunch of mud children shortly.
The mud people according to their beliefs are non-whites, the Adamic race is white.****
That is fundamental Baptist belief also. God created beasts before He created Adam. When God brought that kinky haired, blue gummed, flat nose, biscuit lipped, dark skinned beast up to Adam for a name, Adam quickly said, That's a nig ger! And they (negroes) have been called nig ger ever since. Did you know that the first race mixer was Cain? Cain "found a wife" from amongst the non-white creatures :
Genesis 4 (KJV 1611) 16. And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. 17. And Cain [color=blue]knew his wife[/color]; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Cain was kicked out of our race for murdering his brother, since he was cursed, he became the first race mixer! Cain's children are "Muds"
Adam and Eve did not have any more children until much later. Only after Seth, was more Whites born to Adam and Eve.
Genesis 5
- This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
- Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
- And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
- And the days of Adam [color=red]after he had begotten Seth [/color]were eight hundred years: and [color=blue]he begat sons and daughters[/color]:
- And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
Fundamentalist White Christians know that the Holy Bible points this out and the timeline is correct. Seth was not born BEFORE Cain was booted out of the White Adamic Race.
Mud people are non-whites, period. They have "Mud" (Non-white) in their blood.
Conservative
2003-07-06 00:22 | User Profile
Originally posted by Alka@Jul 2 2003, 15:43 * ** > East Asians and Jews are smarter than Whites*
Since when? I disagree strongly. A very "interesting" statement coming from a self-proclaimed WN BTW...
Personally I don't like to use insults or derogatory language, and would like to see OD remain 'civillized' with a polite exchange of ideas etc. being the norm. I believe OD's policies are quite clear on the matter. **
Hello alka,
The very fact that you are not even aware of the long known and well established fact that East Asians and Jews are smarter than Whites, on average, makes your arguments in the "Science and History" section even weaker. You have never taken the time to read the books at [url=http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/bib.htm]http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/bib.htm[/url] Are you a National Socialist? Generally, Neo-Nazis have not read any literature or research created after the end of the Third Reich.
Best wishes,
Ares
il ragno
2003-07-06 01:26 | User Profile
**The very fact that you are not even aware of the long known and well established fact that East Asians and Jews are smarter than Whites, on average, makes your arguments in the "Science and History" section even weaker. **
Then riddle me this, Caped Crusader: why are they here? Surely, our cultural & intellectual superiors have the capabilities to create Edens of their own homelands....in fact, we benighted hillbillies ought to be clamoring to emigrate to India, Israel, China, etc.
Why why why have they chosen....are they still choosing...to infest the backwaters of the third-rate Western World? Why not leave us to wallow in our own homogenous mediocrity?
Howard Campbell, Jr.
2003-07-06 01:36 | User Profile
How would the superior Eastasians fare without Whitey's medical and technological advances?
How long would the parasites of Tel Aviv endure without the Trillions in Tribute they've extorted from Whitey since 1946? A dozen nanoseconds?
Drakmal
2003-07-06 09:05 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Prodigal Son@Jul 3 2003, 11:25 * ** Drakmal: the problem is that neophytes who could perceivably be brought over to our cause might have a problem with these terms. Most WNs don't find them offensive. I honestly don't; I am simply worried about what using racial epiphets does to our public image. **
In my experience, this isn't really the case. Most newbs who are at all sympathetic to our cause are probably already thinking far more offensive insults. I agree to an extent about maintaining an at least decent public image for fence-sitters and the open-minded-but-uninformed, but again: if someone is put off by such mild insults, they probably aren't yet ready to be here discussing the things we do.
Walter Yannis
2003-07-06 09:34 | User Profile
*Originally posted by golfball@Jul 5 2003, 22:39 * ** God created beasts before He created Adam. When God brought that kinky haired, blue gummed, flat nose, biscuit lipped, dark skinned beast up to Adam for a name, Adam quickly said, That's a nig ger! **
Of course, that's not my own Catholic theology, but I gotta love it! :th:
God: And what will you call this creature, Adam?
Adam: (with a deep Southern drawl) Well, shoot, Lord, I reckon I'll just go ahead an call that there critter a "n*gger!"
You made my day, Golfball!
Walter
Chaucer
2003-07-06 21:19 | User Profile
I think that we should absolutely avoid derrogatory remarks at OD. I know they do at stormfront. Stuff like this hurts our cause, imho.
golfball
2003-07-06 22:08 | User Profile
Negro is acceptable, and so is queer. The term,"gay", just does not sound right, even if a queer is gay because they enjoy anal arousal. :huh:
I have heard much worse language in my day to day activities. :mellow:
Conservative
2003-07-07 02:41 | User Profile
*Originally posted by golfball@Jul 6 2003, 16:08 * ** Negro is acceptable, and so is queer. The term,"gay", just does not sound right, even if a queer is gay because they enjoy anal arousal. :huh:
I have heard much worse language in my day to day activities. :mellow: **
"Gay" is a non-scientific and pc word. The technical term is "homosexual." On the other hand, "queer" is a derrogatory remark. I just use "homosexual." No, I don't support the homosexual culture or the homosexual biology. But, there will always be some people born with this biological defect, so there is nothing we can do about it, for the time being (soon enough, prenatal intervention will allow for preventing homosexuality).
In Don Blacks version of White Nationalism, all paleo-conservative homosexuals, along with the rest, would be kicked out of the nation.
But in my version of White Nationalism, as long as the homosexuals behaved themselves, I would be okey with them remaining in my White Nationalist nation.
"Negro" is a scientific term. We have Caucasoids (Caucasians), Mongloids (Monglos), and Negroids (Negros). But I still will use the word "Black" because it goes better with mainstream Whites.
Regards,
Ares
madrussian
2003-07-07 02:47 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ares@Jul 6 2003, 19:41 * in my version of White Nationalism*
Sorry, you've been classified as "kosher racialist".
Conservative
2003-07-07 04:05 | User Profile
Originally posted by madrussian+Jul 6 2003, 20:47 -->
QUOTE (madrussian @ Jul 6 2003, 20:47 ) <!--QuoteBegin-Ares@Jul 6 2003, 19:41 * in my version of White Nationalism* Sorry, you've been classified as "kosher racialist". **
Since I am in support of pointing out Jewish parasitism, I am not a "kosher racialist."
But aside from that, Legion Europa does not have a monopoly on the definition of a White Nationalist. No one does, and no one ever will.
Regards,
Ares
Walter Yannis
2003-07-07 05:39 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Ares@Jul 7 2003, 02:41 * ** "Gay" is a non-scientific and pc word. The technical term is "homosexual." On the other hand, "queer" is a derrogatory remark. I just use "homosexual." **
What do you think of the terms "arse bandit," "fudge packer," or (my personal favourite) "rent boy?"
Walter
na Gaeil is gile
2003-07-07 11:53 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ares@Jul 6 2003, 20:41 * "Gay" is a non-scientific and pc word. The technical term is "homosexual."*
How about the scientifically accurate term disease vector?
golfball
2003-07-07 14:10 | User Profile
A Composite look in conflicting statements:
Originally posted by Ares No, I don't support the homosexual culture or the homosexual biology.****
Now this was followed up by:
.....
But in my version of White Nationalism, as long as the homosexuals behaved themselves, I would be okey with them remaining in my White Nationalist nation.****
There is no place for sexual deviants in a White or Christian nation.
Looks like you have conflicting interests, Ares. As for your statement concerning queers:
But, there will always be some people born with this biological defect,....
Queers are made, not born. Queers start out by being assaulted by members of their own sex. The assault can be a violent rape or a gentle encounter, however, the assumption that queers are born that way is totally ridiculous!
so there is nothing we can do about it, for the time being ****
Here, you are correct by stating what is now the law of the land. The rest of what you had in parentheses, is not allowable under current United States law.
Patrick
2003-07-07 18:38 | User Profile
"This word is even illogical, since, because East Asians and Jews are smarter than Whites, us White people would be the true Muds, when compared to the Jews/East Asians."
.....Mostly a created fable...
[url=http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=313538&sw=skills]http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/Sh...13538&sw=skills[/url]
Thursday, July 03, 2003 Tamuz 3, 5763 Israel Time: 05:10 (GMT+3) Survey: Israelis rank among worldââ¬â¢s weakest students
By Relly Saââ¬â¢ar
One-third of Israeli 15-year-olds with 9-10 years of schooling lack basic reading skills, according to an international survey released yesterday. It also revealed this to be the most polarized Western country for the gaps in reading skills and knowledge of math and science between top students from better off homes and weak students from the poorer ones.
The Program for International Student Assessment (PISA-2000) survey on industrialized states (OECD) was published simultaneously in the 41 countries that took part in the research. Israeli youngsters scored an average grade of 453 in the reading-skills section of the survey, positioning them
in the bottom third on the international achievement scale, with a ranking of 30 out of the 41 participating countries. Finnish students ranked first, averaging a score of 546 points. American students were also placed in the top third of the scale. To quantify the reading comprehension of 15-year-old students around the world, those who conducted the survey ranked the studentsââ¬â¢ abilities according to five levels, with one being the lowest and five being the highest. Only four percent of Israeli students were in the fifth level, while one-third were in the first level or below. Almost 20 percent of Finnish students were in the fifth level. The PISA survey included some 300,000 students worldwide and was based on data collected two years ago. Dr. Bracha Karmarsky and Professor Zmira Mevarech, the head of the Education Department at Bar-Ilan University, were the head researchers who interpreted the data provided by the surveys taken by Israeli students. According to the two, the fifth level ââ¬Åcomprises students who are able to understand long and complex texts. They have the ability to pick out numerous snippets of information in a text, to distinguish between the wheat and the chaff, to distinguish between relevant and irrelevant information, to understand the meaning of the text and to evaluate and criticize its contents.ââ¬Â Israeli students also performed poorly in the other subjects included in the survey, and were ranked 33rd in both math and sciences, with a score of 433 in math, and 434 in science. The Israeli studentsââ¬â¢ achievements in reading comprehension, math and science were the lowest among the scores from the worldââ¬â¢s developed countries. The low grades in reading skills, math and sciences may explain the Ministry of Educationââ¬â¢s decision on Monday to set up a panel of experts to look into the poor results. Some 4,500 students, a statistical representation of the entire student population, took part in the survey in Israel.
Conservative
2003-07-07 20:44 | User Profile
*Originally posted by golfball@Jul 7 2003, 08:10 * ** There is no place for sexual deviants in a White or Christian nation.
**
I could of course turn this around and say there is no room in a White Nationalist nation for KKK members.
Regards,
Ares
Conservative
2003-07-07 20:49 | User Profile
Homosexuality is a biological defect, similar to Hermaphroditism or Down Syndrome. They are born with defective brain programmings that code for sexuality. Unless you can successfully show that hermaphroditism is a learned condition (this would mean, hermaphrodites have " learned" to grow both male and female physical characteristics, as opposed to being born that way), then it still remains that homosexuals are born that way.
Regards,
Ares
il ragno
2003-07-07 20:50 | User Profile
Queers are made, not born. Queers start out by being assaulted by members of their own sex. The assault can be a violent rape or a gentle encounter, however, the assumption that queers are born that way is totally ridiculous!
I'm not entirely sure about this, but I do know that when homosexuality is societally encouraged, as it presently is in the West, you end up with many more of them than you ordinarily would.
People are generally cattle. If they can be propagandized to think, and vote, and react in certain ways, why is it so difficult to believe that they can be steered and swayed into certain sexual patterns of responses?
Franco
2003-07-07 21:01 | User Profile
** Ares wrote:
I could of course turn this around and say there is no room in a White Nationalist nation for KKK members.
Regards,
Ares **
Huh?? What??
Last time I checked, the oldest White nationalist group in America was....the Klan.
Why are you here at OD, Ares? Hmmmm?
Conservative
2003-07-07 21:11 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Franco@Jul 7 2003, 15:01 * ** Why are you here at OD, Ares? Hmmmm? **
Why are the KKK, Neo-Nazi, and Skinhead losers here? They would fit in much better in Africa.
Regards,
Ares
Franco
2003-07-07 21:41 | User Profile
Ares --
Well, that amazing statement about Africa blew your cover, pal....better give up now.
:o
Conservative
2003-07-07 21:49 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Franco@Jul 7 2003, 15:41 * ** Ares --
Well, that amazing statement about Africa blew your cover, pal....better give up now.
:o **
You missed the point of my comment. What I was implying was that KKK, Neo-Nazis, and Skinheads are culturally as backwards as the Africans, and as such, should move to Africa.
Regards,
Ares
golfball
2003-07-08 04:20 | User Profile
Ares, having fun trolling arouund? :)
This forum seems to accept your type as well as my type, so we better get used to it. ;)
Conservative
2003-07-08 05:54 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Franco@Jul 7 2003, 15:41 * ** Ares --
Well, that amazing statement about Africa blew your cover, pal....better give up now.
:o **
By the way, I really like your posts on the Jews, and I think you are doing a great job of keeping us informed on past and current Jewish crimes against humanity. I just didn't care for your Neo-Nazi and KKK avitars.
Regards,
Ares
il ragno
2003-07-08 07:02 | User Profile
How about violent recidivist-criminal blacks who can't spell, read or speak comprehensible English?
Can we send them to Africa, too....or is it just white rednecks who warrant deportation?
Conservative
2003-07-08 07:10 | User Profile
*Originally posted by il ragno@Jul 8 2003, 01:02 * ** How about violent recidivist-criminal blacks who can't spell, read or speak comprehensible English?
Can we send them to Africa, too....or is it just white rednecks who warrant deportation? **
Just the White rednecks who are KKK, Neo-Nazis, or Skinheads. But I respect and care for the well being of normal White rednecks. I hope this carifies the situation.
Regards,
Ares
Patrick
2003-07-08 12:50 | User Profile
"Just the White rednecks who are KKK, Neo-Nazis, or Skinheads."
.....So you're saying we can't send the violent recidivist-criminal blacks who can't spell, read or speak comprehensible English back from whence they originated?
edward gibbon
2003-07-08 13:41 | User Profile
Ares is [color=yellow]Yellow Polichinello[/color] on steroids and hgh.
Conservative
2003-07-08 18:46 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Patrick@Jul 8 2003, 06:50 * ** ....So you're saying we can't send the violent recidivist-criminal blacks who can't spell, read or speak comprehensible English back from whence they originated? **
Here are my thoughts from another post regarding Blacks and other non-Whites:
Well, in my ideal nation, no more non-White immigration would be allowed, and with respect to those non-Whites that already live here, I would give them two option:
1.) leave the country 2.) stay in the country, but only if the following conditions are met:
a. get permanently sterilized b.) give up your right to vote c.) Obey the laws d.) refrain from antagonizing White Nationalist ideals.
So yes, current Blacks in America who don't meet the above 4 conditions would be expatriated.
But anyway, I am just one person, these are just my own opinions. The policies of any nation is based on the collective voting power, not just the desires of Ares. So, if anyone here is opposed to my political views, simply state so and then make your own separate case.
Regards,
Ares
Alka
2003-07-08 19:28 | User Profile
Wow, Ares, doesn't that directly contradict your put-down of White "crime" against other races?
However we are getting used to contradictions from you.
Nice spamming by the way. :lol:
Conservative
2003-07-08 19:56 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Alka@Jul 8 2003, 13:28 * ** doesn't that directly contradict your put-down of White "crime" against other races?
**
Hello Alka,
It is a crime when Whites go to the lands owned by non-Whites and undermine their nation. But, I am only for making these racial demands for non-Whites that are living in WHITE nations.
Regards,
Ares
Patrick
2003-07-09 02:44 | User Profile
"It is a crime when Whites go to the lands owned by non-Whites and undermine their nation."
.....That would be the "jews" you speak of; a standard modus operandi through the age... the caucasians that took part were merely those that worship mammom, and received the mark thereby; sold their birthright for a cup of red pottage, as easily as did esau...
Conservative
2003-07-11 03:12 | User Profile
Well, I'm seeing the word "mud" still popping up. If this is going to be the general pattern, then I quite honestly would rather just not waste my time at OD. I have just spent some 30 hours in the last two weeks bringing in the last 50 new members to OD through aggressive promotions on the internet. Am I wasting my time?
I was really hoping that OD would be the FIRST place on the internet for INTELLECTUAL racism and anti-Semetism. But, I guess OD is just like:
[url=http://www.aryandawn.com/]http://www.aryandawn.com/[/url] [url=http://www.creator.org.au/forums/]http://www.creator.org.au/forums/[/url] [url=http://www.nationalist.org/forum/]http://www.nationalist.org/forum/[/url] [url=http://www.kkkk.net/community/]http://www.kkkk.net/community/[/url] [url=http://www.longcountyrebel.org/forum/]http://www.longcountyrebel.org/forum/[/url] [url=http://www.overthrow.com/messageboards/showBoards.asp]http://www.overthrow.com/messageboards/showBoards.asp[/url] [url=http://www.resistance.com/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi]http://www.resistance.com/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi[/url]? [url=http://www.stormfront.org/forum/]http://www.stormfront.org/forum/[/url] [url=http://www.vnnforum.com/]http://www.vnnforum.com/[/url]
Regards,
Ares
il ragno
2003-07-11 06:22 | User Profile
**Well, I'm seeing the word "mud" still popping up. **
Naturally...you keep typing it!
Roy Batty
2003-07-11 06:23 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Ares@Jul 10 2003, 19:12 * ** Well, I'm seeing the word "mud" still popping up. If this is going to be the general pattern, then I quite honestly would rather just not waste my time at OD... **
Then go. It shouldn't bother you as much as it does, seeing that whites are attacked so viciously, with such regularity, in the "mainstream" media, and most outlets of "opinion". It's not sinking to a low level, it's just the real opionion of some OD members regarding the increasing number of savages populating this once great land.
ÃÅbeltäter
2003-07-11 07:06 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Jul 11 2003, 00:22 * ** > *Well, I'm seeing the word "mud" still popping up. **
Naturally...you keep typing it! **
:lol:
Conservative
2003-07-11 16:56 | User Profile
Actually, OD is all that and a lot more.
No it is not.
** I'd have to say that you might have a cognitive blindspot regarding how much you enjoy antagonizing others along with the resultant fighing. So be a good neighbor, doublecheck your intentions, and keep slinging away. I support you on the clean talk bit, but take umbrage at the "eugenic miscegenation"**
This if off topic, this thread was created to deal with language at OD. Please start another thread called "Ares' Eugenics and Transhumanism Ideas."
Regards,
Ares
Conservative
2003-07-11 17:10 | User Profile
Here is another problem, there is flamming in this forum, and lot's of it; this would never be allowed at AR, which proves my point that they are more empirical. For example, when anyone has different ideas from various members, that person is not debated but flammed. This is a waste of time for board users and serves no useful purpose. At Stormfront, there is almost no debating, just pure flamming.
So, unless OD becomes professional like AR and decides to differentiate itself from Stormfront, I will no longer be posting in the other sections, and I will no longer promote this site.
In fact, if Whites for the most part are genetically incapable of acting professional/empirical, then this just convinces me even more that what we really need is a White/East Asian eugenic hybrid program.
Regards,
Ares
ÃÅbeltäter
2003-07-11 17:16 | User Profile
Ares, that isn't a flame. It is just a joke. Get a sense of humor!
Conservative
2003-07-11 17:19 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Roy Batty@Jul 11 2003, 00:23 * ** It shouldn't bother you as much as it does, seeing that whites are attacked so viciously, with such regularity, in the "mainstream" media, and most outlets of "opinion". It's not sinking to a low level, it's just the real opionion of some OD members regarding the increasing number of savages populating this once great land. **
It has nothing to do with "sinking low," it has to do with professionalism and empiricism. Since White Nationalism is the most taboo subject, we need to act professional, more so than any other group, if we want to gain the support of the masses. In other words, if you want to increase pride, you must give Whites something to be proud of. Using Negroid/Jewish language at OD and then trying to get Whites to be proud of this will not work.
I believe the problem is that when any new forum is created, it gets flooded with the same old long time KKK, Neo-Nazi, and Skinhead members. They then turn the forum into yet another Stormfront. White Nationalism needs a fresh new start with no affiliation with the culturally backwards elements.
I was hoping that OD would become as successful as Free Republic, and I was willing to put in hours each day to make that so.
Regards,
Ares
Conservative
2003-07-11 17:30 | User Profile
*Originally posted by ÃÅbeltäter@Jul 11 2003, 11:16 * ** Ares, that isn't a flame. It is just a joke. Get a sense of humor! **
Sorry, my mistake, I was thinking his post was saying that my comments are equivalent to mud, and that is why there is lots of it.
But, jokes aside, I am still concerned about the flammings in the main sections. For example, the comments towards rglencheek's departure thread: while there were many good rebuttals, there was also a lot of flamming which serves no useful purpose.
Regards,
Ares
Wayland
2003-07-11 18:58 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ares@Jul 11 2003, 10:19 * *It has nothing to do with "sinking low," it has to do with professionalism and empiricism. Since White Nationalism is the most taboo subject, we need to act professional, more so than any other group, if we want to gain the support of the masses. In other words, if you want to increase pride, you must give Whites something to be proud of. Using Negroid/Jewish language at OD and then trying to get Whites to be proud of this will not work. **
Ares, please present your empirical data showing "Using Negroid/Jewish language at OD" will not work. Otherwise we'll have to conclude your assertions derive from something other than rational observations.
I believe the problem is that when any new forum is created, it gets flooded with the same old long time KKK, Neo-Nazi, and Skinhead members. They then turn the forum into yet another Stormfront.
Please present one or more specific examples of forum that have been flooded with "long time KKK, Neo-Nazi, and Skinhead members" which then turned the forum into "another Stormfront". It's important that we focus on real observations here rather than one member's fearful fantasies.
ÃÅbeltäter
2003-07-11 19:38 | User Profile
I am an Nationalsocialist. Did I flood this place and turn it into stormfront?
Btw - I hate stormfront
:sm:
Kurt
2003-07-11 20:03 | User Profile
"Mommy, all these racist, anti-semitic comments make me sad." :crybaby:
[SIZE=2]Typical Jew-esque attitude: come to a place, whine, and demand that changes be made. You have a lot in common with [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?showtopic=9173]this guy[/url].[/SIZE]
ÃÅbeltäter
2003-07-12 02:23 | User Profile
:taz:
OMG - my feelings are soo hurt...
Texas Dissident called us "Krauts"
[url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?showtopic=9278]Stupid YANKEE![/url]
;) :sm:
lol
il ragno
2003-07-12 02:33 | User Profile
It has nothing to do with "sinking low," it has to do with professionalism and empiricism
Then why did you post "You Might Be a KKK Redneck IF...", and then fill it with the same toothless/illiterate/sister-climbing references one can overhear at any B'nai Brith dinner?
Why not head over to the AmRen board and start a thread on how blacks have no peer in sexually satisfying white women, thus the railroading of the Scottsboro Boys?
Or better yet, head back to the Hillel House with a mopey expression to report, "No soap, guys; they didn't buy it for a second"?
Lady_America
2003-07-13 17:40 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Raina@Jul 13 2003, 07:17 * ** Look at the people in this forum. Look at the things they say. "Christ was a Jew!" "Christ was an Aryan!" "Where'd I put my Zyklon B?" "We should work with the Jews." "Jews are half-Arab ticks!" "Jews are White!" "Hindus will rule the world!" "Hindus are wife-burning poop eaters!"
With so many factions here, each of which would kill the others once it took power, "derogatory remarks" are inevitable.
There is no "true voice of the American right." There are many divergent voices, ruled by chaos. **
Precisely. The whole movement is in dissaray. There isn't any real unity. But, usually that is how it is in real governments and revolutions. One just have to find the 'right' or most 'accepting' for 'all' the masses to get their message across. And, I stand by my observation--if its a good product with positive attributes attached to it, then it will sell. All the other 'generics' are usually there for those who don't want the best taste, but what they can afford. In affect, those who go after the generic brand that doesn't have the taste or best packaging use become numb to the taste anyway. And, generic brands do not necessarily show a loyalty to the most important brand--the brand that costs a little more and tastes better. Without loyalty--what are you? Just a mass of flesh that is up more grabs.
Lady
NeoNietzsche
2003-07-13 17:48 | User Profile
Originally posted by Lady_America+Jul 13 2003, 11:40 -->
QUOTE* (Lady_America @ Jul 13 2003, 11:40 ) <!--QuoteBegin-Raina@Jul 13 2003, 07:17 * ** Look at the people in this forum. Look at the things they say. "Christ was a Jew!" "Christ was an Aryan!" "Where'd I put my Zyklon B?" "We should work with the Jews." "Jews are half-Arab ticks!" "Jews are White!" "Hindus will rule the world!" "Hindus are wife-burning poop eaters!" With so many factions here, each of which would kill the others once it took power, "derogatory remarks" are inevitable.
There is no "true voice of the American right." There are many divergent voices, ruled by chaos. **
Precisely. The whole movement is in dissaray. There isn't any real unity. But, usually that is how it is in real governments and revolutions. One just have to find the 'right' or most 'accepting' for 'all' the masses to get their message across. And, I stand by my observation--if its a good product with positive attributes attached to it, then it will sell. All the other 'generics' are usually there for those who don't want the best taste, but what they can afford. In affect, those who go after the generic brand that doesn't have the taste or best packaging use become numb to the taste anyway. And, generic brands do not necessarily show a loyalty to the most important brand--the brand that costs a little more and tastes better. Without loyalty--what are you? Just a mass of flesh that is up more grabs.
Lady**
Ya gotta have a God of War.
All else is BS.
ÃÅbeltäter
2003-07-13 18:55 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Lady_America@Jul 13 2003, 11:40 * ** Precisely. The whole movement is in dissaray. There isn't any real unity. **
Wrong. We have our disagreements on things. But we will come together agianst the outside enemies.
Franco
2003-07-13 19:04 | User Profile
Wrong. The WN movement [which includes the paleo Right] is, as a whole, unified. It's just that some people refuse to follow the MAIN PROGRAM: No Jews, No Blacks, No Browns, and Christians must name the Jew. That's the program. Follow the program, and no worries, mate. It's when you deviate from the program that things take a wrong turn...
Find the enemy. Focus on the enemy. Rebuild America by rooting out said enemy. What's the problem? Is that above a hard concept? But some people don't get it. William Pierce got it. Duke gets it. VNN gets it. SOME at OD get it, some don't.
Walter E Kurtz
2003-07-13 21:14 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Franco@Jul 13 2003, 13:04 * **
Find the enemy. Focus on the enemy. Rebuild America by rooting out said enemy. What's the problem? Is that above a hard concept? But some people don't get it. William Pierce got it. Duke gets it. VNN gets it. SOME at OD get it, some don't.
**
Some of what you say is spot on, Uncle Franco...some of it is not. Tell me exactly how William Pierce "got it". He spent thirty years preaching to the choir and packaging White Nationalism as a fringe, Nazi cult.
Edana
2003-07-13 21:21 | User Profile
He had some entertaining broadcasts.
Walter E Kurtz
2003-07-13 21:24 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Edana@Jul 13 2003, 15:21 * ** He had some entertaining broadcasts. **
I'll accept that...but I dont understand the adulation that people have for this man. What did William Pierce do to improve the lot of American Whites? What did he do to substantively combat Jewish culture distortion? At risk of offending the NA members in attendance, the answer to both questions is clearly nothing.
Franco
2003-07-14 00:58 | User Profile
William Pierce SPOTLIGHTED the Jew when others were playing bean-bag and drinking beer. That alone makes him a great man. Pierce is why I now name the Jew daily.
THANKS, WILLIAM.
Valley Forge
2003-07-14 01:22 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Ares@Jul 2 2003, 20:22 * ** How about we stop using words like "Mud" which is a derrogatory remark for anyone who is not White. This word is even illogical, since, because East Asians and Jews are smarter than Whites, us White people would be the true Muds, when compared to the Jews/East Asians. Maybe I'll change my handle to "Caucasian Mud."
And what about the word "queer." Is the term "homosexual" not sufficient enough to get the message across?
Regards,
Ares **
So some people use the word "Mud."
BFD.
OD was the one place I thought we could all turn to to get away from this kind of small minded political correctness.
il ragno
2003-07-14 01:30 | User Profile
Pierce was the Bad Guy with the target on his back for 25 years so that you could harumph about Jews while washing your hands of 'rhetorical extremism', Walter. He was the canary in the coalmine, the boy who saw no clothes on the Emperor and said so, the cartographer mapping the passage between disparate dots that, viewed from a remove, constitute the Truth about Who Runs (and Ruins) America.
That he was flawed is indisputable, but that's more a scathing commentary on his detractors (purported adults who demand nothing less than perfection from lightning-rod public figures) than on Pierce.
ÃÅbeltäter
2003-07-14 02:43 | User Profile
Originally posted by Valley Forge+Jul 13 2003, 19:22 -->
QUOTE* (Valley Forge @ Jul 13 2003, 19:22 ) <!--QuoteBegin-Ares@Jul 2 2003, 20:22 * ** How about we stop using words like "Mud" which is a derrogatory remark for anyone who is not White. This word is even illogical, since, because East Asians and Jews are smarter than Whites, us White people would be the true Muds, when compared to the Jews/East Asians. Maybe I'll change my handle to "Caucasian Mud." And what about the word "queer." Is the term "homosexual" not sufficient enough to get the message across?
Regards,
Ares **
So some people use the word "Mud."
BFD.
OD was the one place I thought we could all turn to to get away from this kind of small minded political correctness. **
Well, I thought this was a free speech place.
Edana
2003-07-14 02:54 | User Profile
This is a lightly moderated forum, though that may change as more challenge Tex's "tolerance".
The unmoderated (or extremely lightly moderated) forums are the libertarian/anarchist boards and VNN.
Dan Dare
2003-07-16 16:19 | User Profile
Edana wrote:
This is a lightly moderated forum, though that may change as more challenge Tex's "tolerance".
I for one appreciate Tex's light hand on the tiller. It's certainly a better approach than the current anarchy over at VNN, or the handcuffs at AR.
Having said that, a witty insult or epithet can provide the finishing touch to a well-constructed argument but should be deployed sparingly and in a parliamentary spirit.
Cod-Hindus excepted of course.
Conservative
2003-07-20 01:44 | User Profile
Another racial slur just used at OD: Latrino. Good term to use at home, but not in an academic public forum.
Regards,
Ares