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Rudel [OP]

2003-07-02 08:09 | User Profile

The German-Soviet Non-Aggression Treaty of 23 August 1939 provided for the following territorial divisions: Estonia and Latvia would fall into the Soviet sphere of interest while Lithuania would fall into the German. From Lithuania the line of demarcation would run toward East Prussia, from there along the Narew, Vistula, and San rivers toward the Carpathian mountains (Map 1). After the Polish defeat, the Soviet government immediately exerted heavy pressure on Germany for a revision of the treaty. In order to maintain peace, Hitler agreed in the second treaty, the so-called Border and Friendship Agreement of 28 September 1939, that Germany would relinquish its interest in most of Lithuania in exchange for the area between the Vistula and the Bug rivers with a population of about 3.5 million, including more than 300,000 Jews.2 This area had been occupied by the Soviets for only a few days, but the Red Army had taken the area's food supplies and livestock with it as it departed. As a result the Germans actually had to bring in large quantities of food to forestall starvation in this agricultural area.3 This episode should have been a lesson to Germany. It was not. ...

German economic aid to the occupied Soviet territories amounted to roughly one percent of German gross national product of those years.38 Even today, this figure is not matched by the level of foreign aid of the industrial nations to developing countries. West Germany, for example, extended foreign aid amounting to about one-half of one percent of GNP since 1960, that is, at a time of relative prosperity and low defense outlays. Indeed, the economic assistance of about 3 billion RM (including both industrial and agricultural aid) furnished to the economy of the occupied Soviet area is even more remarkable when one realizes this this amount was equivalent to one-fourth of aggregate gross fixed investment in Greater Germany in the years 1942 and 1943 (12 billion RM).39...

It is an indisputable fact that the systematic Soviet dismantling of factories and their shipment to the Urals, the carefully planned removal and destruction of raw materials stocks and food supplies, and the large-scale deportation of civilians were started long before 22 June 1941. Indeed, evidence indicated that these efforts were greatly intensified ten to fourteen days prior to that date. Now, we do not know whether Stalin believed that a German attack would come on the precise date of 22 June 1941, although Sorge and others had provided such information to him. Possibly, Stalin thought that Germany's military build-up was insufficient to allow her to strike on the day reported to him. But this is really beside the point. Both sides knew that the other would attack as soon as it was ready. This fact demolishes forever the charge of a German sneak attack on an unprepared, peace-loving Soviet Union. The initial German military successes were achieved not because of the element of surprise but despite Stalin's knowledge of German preventive action and despite a huge Soviet military build-up for an attack on central Europe, which was the reason for Germany's preventive war in the first place. Furthermore, the allegation of systematic German brutality in Russia is exposed as plain Soviet propaganda. It is true that starvation was widespread in the large cities of the German-occupied Soviet Union, that large numbers of Soviet prisoners-of-war died of hunger, that the Soviet cities were in ruins after' the German armies retreated, and that the Soviet population suffered tens of millions of dead during the Second World War. However, we also know that the inhumane Soviet scorched-earth strategy was the cause of hunger in the German-occupied Soviet territories, of an orgy of destruction previously unknown in warfare, and of the death of up to 20 million Soviet civilians, many of whom had been deported to the frozen wastes of Siberia and the Urals where epidemics, lack of housing and medical care, unimaginably hard work loads, and an extreme climate allowed only the toughest to survive. Add the costly human-wave tactics of Soviet military strategy and it is evident that Soviet brutality alone was responsible for the unbelievably huge losses of life suffered by the peoples of the Soviet Union-more than 30 million dead!

See the whole article on: [url=http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p-91_Sanning.html]http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p-91_Sanning.html[/url]


Marcus Porcius Cato

2003-07-04 17:45 | User Profile

Excellent article.

The myth of German brutality to Slavs needs to be laid to rest for once and for all. The Slavic exercise in cognitive dissonance on the subject is stunning. Over my lifetime I have had occasion to discuss the issue with scores of Slavs of various ethnicities, and, with the exception of a handful of rather young fellows who obviously belonged to the NS school of political philosophy, the uniformity as well as the content of the responses was dismaying, to say the least.

To a man, when questioned about the putative viciousness of German soldiers, not one could offer a case of a friend, or even a friend of a friend having personally witnessed such 'atrocities', to say nothing of personal testimonials. But simultaneously, ALMOST to a man, they either were the personal beneficiaries of German Military benevolence or knew someone or someone who knew someone who was. All to no avail, however. In grand cognitive dissonance fashion, they were ALL convinced of the unquestionable beastliness of the Luftwaffe, Wehrmacht, and the Waffen SS. Why? Because 'everyone' knew it was so!

This kind of reminds me of the bovine US EveryAss, who won't believe your assertion that it's snowing outside simply because the cackling Jewscaster on the One Eyed Jew assures him that it's balmy, dry and perfect barbecue weather. Moreover, he will respond to your challenge to satisfy himself of the truth of the matter by means of the simple expedient of poking his head out the window with the sagacious observation that you ought to go back to Russia - even if you're a Negro!

Trying to win over with cogent arguments those who trust the pronouncements of Talmudvision more than they trust their own senses is a losing proposition!

BTW Just WTF is this 'everyone'? Anyone?