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Conservative [OP]

2003-06-29 09:44 | User Profile

So technically, if Christians want to increase their chances of getting into Heavan, they must not complain if the Jews decide to exterminate them or any other Gentiles.

The following is from Professor Kevin MacDonald's book "A People that Shall Dwell Alone," [url=http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/]http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/[/url]

"The importance of [marrying kin], at least from the standpoint of later [authors], can be seen in the treatment of the conquered peoples whom the Israelites displace after the Exodus (see also Hartung 1992, n.d.). The policy described in the Books of Numbers, Deuteronomy, and Joshua is to commit genocide rather than permitting intermarriage with the conquered peoples in the zone of settlement. The chronicler of Deuteronomy states as a general policy regarding the displaced peoples that the Israelites 'shalt utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them; neither shalt thou make marriages with them: thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son' (Deut. 7:3).

"As recorded in the Book of Joshua, this policy is then scrupulously followed when the Israelites cross the Jordan and eradicate the peoples there. Moreover, the emphasis on the need to exterminate other peoples in order to avoid intermarriage is repeated: 'Else if ye do in any wise go back, and cleave unto the remnant of these nations, even these that remain among you, and make marriages with them, and go in unto them, and they to you; know for a certainty that the LORD your God will no more drive these nations from out of your sight; but they shall be a snare and a trap unto you, and a scourge in your sides, and pricks in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you' (Josh. 23:12-13). These instructions are carried out: 'So Joshua smote all the land, the hill-country, and the South, and the Lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings; he left none remaining; but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD, the God of Israel, commanded' (Josh. 10:40)."

Patrick

2003-06-29 14:35 | User Profile

.....The "jews" are not Israelites, and the Israelites are not "jews"... The title of the thread becomes nonsensical in that regard...

golfball

2003-06-29 21:47 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Patrick@Jun 29 2003, 09:35 * ** .....The "jews" are not Israelites, and the Israelites are not "jews"... The title of the thread becomes nonsensical in that regard... **

Very true! Israelites are the White race. Jews are of their father, the devil. ( John 8:44 KJV 1611 ) Here is another ( MSNBC news ) article to compare how jews are referred to as "White":

[url=http://www.msnbc.com/news/931177.asp]www.msnbc.com/news/931177.asp[/url]

PHILADELPHIA, June 25 — Standing before a roaring audience at an NAACP convention a year ago, Mayor John F. Street exulted in how Philadelphia finally had a black mayor, a black managing director, a black fire commissioner and a black police commissioner

“LET ME TELL YOU: The brothers and sisters are running the city. Oh, yes. Running it!” Street declared. “Don’t you let nobody fool you: We are in charge of the City of Brotherly Love. We are in charge! We are in charge!” The remark angered some white Philadelphians and Street later apologized. But the episode laid bare a racial rift that could play a major role in his bid for re-election this year. A poll conducted by Millersville University in March said that 70 percent of blacks favored Street, a Democrat, while 72 percent of whites favored his challenger, Sam Katz, [SIZE=2][font=Wingdings]Y[/font][/SIZE] a white Republican. Other polls found a similar divide. The numbers mirror the 1999 campaign, when a city equally divided between blacks and whites split just as evenly along racial lines — and elected Street by fewer than 10,000 votes.

‘COLOR OF THEIR SKIN’ Polls indicate this year’s rematch is close, too, and it has frustrated Street’s supporters. Rep. Chaka Fattah said that in a city where Democrats outnumber Republicans 4-to-1, Street should be cruising, but isn’t because of his race. “Every time there is an African American who is the lead candidate on a ticket, there are Democrats who find it difficult to cast a vote for them because they can’t get past the color of their skin,” the black congressman said. “Street will have to spend a long amount of time making appeals, and working to get a percentage of the white Democratic vote in Philadelphia that would ordinarily be guaranteed to him.” Katz, who said after his 1999 loss that he did not campaign hard enough in black neighborhoods, said he will take a different approach this time. He kicked off this year’s campaign with appearances in black and Hispanic neighborhoods, and has been making lots of visits to ethnic festivals. “The extent that I can get African American, Latino and Asian votes, and the extent that John Street can get white votes, will decide the election,” he said. Political consultants say there is an equal chance the candidates will retreat to their political bases before the Nov. 4 election. Democratic political consultant Ken Snyder called racial divisions “an immutable law” in urban campaigns. “Sam’s challenge will be to stimulate a high turnout among white ethnic voters without stimulating or offending African Americans,” he said. “And if John Street determines that African Americans are floating to Katz’s vision, he may actually want to run a ‘brothers and sisters are in charge’ type of election” that capitalizes on black pride.

RACE AN OVERT ISSUE Race has already become an overt issue in the contest. Months after Street made his NAACP address, Republican operatives went into white neighborhoods and distributed leaflets that featured his comments, calling them proof that he would neglect whites if re-elected. And Street was criticized this month when a city official was accused of making anti-Semitic remarks. During a meeting, Hanford Jones, deputy director of the Minority Business Enterprise Council, complained that a proposed redevelopment of the city’s waterfront had been dominated by Jewish lawyers and Jewish architects, according to people at the meeting. [color=blue] Katz, who is Jewish[/color], called the comment anti-Semitic and said Jones should be fired. Street condemned the statement but said civil service rules protected Jones’ job. Jones said his comments had been misinterpreted, but apologized. There are some signs that as racial tensions have eased in American cities, voters are more likely to cross the color line. Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, who is white, won a majority of the black vote in his 1999 race against Rep. Bobby Rush, a former Black Panther. Washington’s white upper-class lifted black Mayor Anthony Williams to victory in 1998. Some blacks charged that the Harvard-educated lawyer was not “black enough.” Street spokesman Mark Nevins said he thinks his candidate can also transcend race. “Our campaign’s view is that the mayor’s record of accomplishment is a benefit to everyone in Philadelphia, equally,” he said.

Übeltäter

2003-07-03 22:05 | User Profile

*Originally posted by golfball@Jun 29 2003, 15:47 * ** Very true! Israelites are the White race. Jews are of their father, the devil. **

Err... huh? Israelites are (were) a semetic, non-indoeuropean people. Not "white" - that term is also stupid. Since when did Lucifer spawn offspring called Jews?

Patrick

2003-07-04 04:09 | User Profile

"Since when did Lucifer spawn offspring called Jews?"

Since the garden, actually...

.....The "serpent" beguiled, (wholly seduced), Eva, thus producing Kajin, (Cain, later, Sargon), and they are the selfsame lineage of the pharisaical ones spoken to in John, 8:44, the "edomites" who are in modern Jewry...

Übeltäter

2003-07-04 05:57 | User Profile

Two offspring, Kain and Abel. Abel was murdered, so how can Kain reproduce with himself?

rglencheek

2003-07-04 06:09 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Übeltäter@Jul 3 2003, 23:57 * ** Two offspring, Kain and Abel. Abel was murdered, so how can Kain reproduce with himself? **

Adam and Eve had more children, sir.

Übeltäter

2003-07-04 08:02 | User Profile

Show me the passage.

rglencheek

2003-07-04 22:11 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Übeltäter@Jul 4 2003, 02:02 * ** Show me the passage. **

Genesis 4:25 - 5:4

And Adam had relations with his wife again; and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth...Then the days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were eight hundred years, and he had other sons and daughters.

Übeltäter

2003-07-04 22:20 | User Profile

ok, thanks. didnt know that

rglencheek

2003-07-04 23:58 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Übeltäter@Jul 4 2003, 16:20 * ** ok, thanks. didnt know that **

No problemo.

Übeltäter

2003-07-05 00:26 | User Profile

I find it interesting that the name for a child of Adam and Eva, is also the ancient Egyptian god of chaos, the embodiment of hostility and even of outright evil.

[img]http://www.pantheon.org/images/glyphs/seth.gif[/img]

rglencheek

2003-07-05 00:44 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Übeltäter@Jul 4 2003, 18:26 * ** I find it interesting that the name for a child of Adam and Eva, is also the ancient Egyptian god of chaos, the embodiment of hostility and even of outright evil.

[img]http://www.pantheon.org/images/glyphs/seth.gif[/img] **

I dont know if Seth and Set are equivalent, even though there is a similarity in the words.

As the Pentateuch, IMO, was written shortly after the Exodus, it is likely that Egyptian mythology had some impact on the terminologies used, but how far that can go I wouldnt guess.

Übeltäter

2003-07-05 00:54 | User Profile

Yes, like many pagan religions, it depends on the native dialect/language. Set, Seth, Setesh, Seti, Setekh - all the same guy. Example: Odin (scandinavian), Woden (old-english), Wotan (german) - all the same guy.

Your assumtion is a likely one. It makes sense.