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Thread ID: 7693 | Posts: 41 | Started: 2003-06-29
2003-06-29 06:31 | User Profile
Pegged at costing somewhere between $125-$150 million, Full Throttle will have to shift into high speed this week if it expects to break even. Just imagine: Cameron Diaz and Drew Barrymore are each drawing $20-$25 million paychecks off of the budget. Lucy Liu, Demi Moore, and Bernie Mac all have sizable chunks, too. And Barrymore, because she's producer, is getting a second revenue stream.
These days, the cost of a major movie is tens of millions of dollars just for the stars. Are big names worth it? Is there any evidence that they bring in enough extra money to pay their salaries? How about big names for voices in cartoon movies? Did Ellen Degenerate's voice sell even one more ticket for Finding Nemo?
I've hardly ever considered seeing a movie just because of a big name in it. I actually prefer unknowns; that way it's easier for me to believe that they're the characters they're playing.
I like to go see high-budget movies, not because of the names but because I'm expecting stunning visuals. I also consider seeing movies with interesting subjects and good reviews.
Anyway, if you go see Charle's Angle's, remember that the ticket price is so high to pay Barrymore 25 million dollars (plus producer's pay). I'd be willing to pay more if she weren't in it.
2003-06-29 08:16 | User Profile
**I've hardly ever considered seeing a movie just because of a big name in it.ÃÂ I actually prefer unknowns; that way it's easier for me to believe that they're the characters they're playing.
I like to go see high-budget movies, not because of the names but because I'm expecting stunning visuals.ÃÂ I also consider seeing movies with interesting subjects and good reviews.**
I basically agree with this. Being an SF/Horror/Action fan, I'm more interested in the story, and the FX. I'm also more interested in who the director is than the who the stars are. Of course, a good, known, actor doesn't hurt, like say Anthony Hopkins in the "Hannibal" movies, or Nick Nolte in The Hulk.
Sometimes racial issues matter to me. Like, I refuse to see 2 Fast 2 Furious and Bad Boys 2, because they seem a little too anti-White/pro-Negro to me.
The only movies I've seen this summer are Matrix: Reloaded and The Hulk. I enjoyed both of them, even though Reloaded had an anti-White message to it (like the first one). The great FX and action were enough to make me overlook that, though. Hulk had practically no Blacks in at all; the ones it did have were in very minor roles.
I have no real desire to see the new Charlie's Angels. I'll probably see it on video, like I did the first one. I am looking forward to seeing the [url=http://us.imdb.com/Title?0311429]The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen[/url]. It seems like a very "White" movie (at least by Hollywood standards): I didn't see any Blacks in the trailer; it takes place during the Victorian-era, and uses characters from literature, such as Dorian Gray, Tom Sawyer, Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde, and Captain Nemo. Of course, this may doom it at the box office, since most young people--White and non-White alike--probably don't know or care who these people are (thanks to the publik skools), and would rather see hip Negroes like Tyrese and Bernie Mac.
I also want to see [url=http://us.imdb.com/Title?0181852]T3[/url]. I enjoyed the first two, and am looking forward to seeing the Terminatrix ([url=http://www.kristanna.com/]Kristanna Loken[/url]) in action. :wub:
[img]http://www.kristanna.com/img/photos/kl1.jpg[/img]
2003-06-29 08:55 | User Profile
I'll watch just about any movie that seems like it won't piss me off. Movies with blatant anti-white, anti-family, pro-promiscuity, pro-feminism, etc. messages are rarely on my to-watch list.
Note that I said nothing about a good story, etc. I see entertainment in general as psychological decompression more than anything else. I've watched and enjoyed many a boring movie/TV show just because it was relaxing to do so. :)
2003-06-29 16:29 | User Profile
big names worth it? Is there any evidence that they bring in enough extra money to pay their salaries?
Rarely.
Did Ellen Degenerate's voice sell even one more ticket for Finding Nemo?
It sure sold one less.
**I've hardly ever considered seeing a movie just because of a big name in it. I actually prefer unknowns; that way it's easier for me to believe that they're the characters they're playing.
I like to go see high-budget movies, not because of the names but because I'm expecting stunning visuals. I also consider seeing movies with interesting subjects and good reviews.**
Generally, this is my criteria also. I consider it for the most part disposable entertainment, generally not worth the admission price. I don't think a Hollywood movie is capable of not offending one with blatant socio-political messages, so either one boycotts most of Hollywood altogether, or you just resign yourself to grit your teeth through the propagandizing portions.
The only movies out there I intend to see anytime soon are Morvern Callar, 28 Days Later, & T3.
2003-06-29 16:49 | User Profile
What attracts you to a movie?
Stuff like LOTR. Nothing else. I don't even know who the stars are. I'm utterly clueless and apathetic about the little Hollywood whores. After the third movie of the LOTR trilogy, I don't think I'll care to see anything at the theatre for a very long time, if ever. I haven't even seen Matrix Reloaded or Star Wars Pt. Whatever. I don't care to see them, either.
2003-06-29 16:53 | User Profile
I also want to see T3. I enjoyed the first two, and am looking forward to seeing the Terminatrix (Kristanna Loken) in action.
A pretty girl, without question, but scary enough to pull off a role as a remorseless, murdering cyborg? Women are many things, but physically intimidating they're not. Leave it to Jewwood to give us an "empowered" robotic beyatch....
Something at least remotely believable is all I ask.
2003-06-29 18:01 | User Profile
*Originally posted by N.B. Forrest@Jun 29 2003, 10:53 * ** A pretty girl, without question, but scary enough to pull off a role as a remorseless, murdering cyborg? Women are many things, but physically intimidating they're not. Leave it to Jewwood to give us an "empowered" robotic beyatch....
Something at least remotely believable is all I ask. **
Remember what Kipling wrote:
[url=http://www.poetry.com.au/classics/titles/f/female-species.html]"For the female of the species is more deadly than the male..."[/url] ;)
[SIZE=2]Besides, it coulda been woise: Shaquille O'Neal and Vin "What Race am I?" Diesel were also up for the role.[/SIZE] :thd:
2003-06-29 18:44 | User Profile
It's hard to say how much stars bring to the table. I'm inclined to think the Jews know what they're doing, as I don't seem them as frivilous with the cash. :)
I too prefer "stunning visuals" over big names. I think it takes a brilliant director to get adequate performances out of lesser talent [the opposite is definitely true, just look to star wars episode 1 and episode 2 for examples]. This is why good actors, who are known quantities and consistent performers, command such high salaries. Who knows, if Jews didn't have a stranglehold on Hollywood, if nepotism didn't put Jews in all the key jobs, maybe stars wouldn't be as necessary as they are now. Maybe more talented directors could rise to the top.
I think it really all comes down to stars being known quantities. Producers have to ask themselves, "am I willing to trust this $100 million production to this unknown actor?"
2003-06-30 13:08 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Kurt@Jun 29 2003, 08:16 * ** I enjoyed the first two, and am looking forward to seeing the Terminatrix (Kristanna Loken) in action. **
Wow, she's purty.
I wasn't planning on seeing T3, but I've just changed my mind.
Walter
2003-06-30 14:35 | User Profile
I hope she's not flat chested like Hepburn was.
I can't believe the kudos that sexless hatchet faced witch is getting. An "American Queen"? They gotta be kidding.
With her it was always Spencer this and Spencer that.
I didn't like him either.
Call me a philistine but IMHO all Hollywood actresses should have large breasts, pretty faces and voices that don't grate on my nerves.
If I had been stuck on the African Queen with her she would have been jettisoned early on.
2003-06-30 15:15 | User Profile
IMHO The greatest actress of the last 25 years is Shannon Tweed.
She can do it all. Better than Farrah Fawcett. That's for sure. More range.
2003-06-30 18:37 | User Profile
In the midst of this paroxyism of Hepburn uber alle I would like to ask a question.
Who decided she was great? An icon? A treasure?
I deeply resent having the cannonization of Katherine Hepburn presented to me as a fait accompli without even being asked to vote on it. This is fundamentally unamerican and offends my democratic nature.
I feel the same way about Barbra Streisand, Norma Shearer and Joan Crawford.
After much consideration of this ponderous conundrum I have come to the conclusion that it is because women like her. It's a chick thing. Indeed, I've never met a man who did. And if a man ever said he did I am certain he was lying to gain favor with an attractive woman. The most outrageous lies have been told by similarly motivated men.
I once worked with a fellow who despised Richard Nixon with the consumate hatred only a 60's liberal could muster. Whenever Nixon came up he would go off on his rant. Then one day, a hot looking blonde co worker overheard us talking and opined that "Nixon is OK. They all do it".
We all waited for the usual screed but all he did was smile wanly and say "that's true, Wendy" knowing that the minute she got out of earshot we were going to heap ribaldry on him. But he didn't care. He valued her good opinion over ours. As we all did.
Shannon Tweed, on the other hand, is despised by chicks and universally admired by men. Shannon is a not a graduate of the Stanislovsky school. Or the method school. And this no doubt hurts her critical reputation. She is a graduate of the GNF school of acting. GNF stands for Get Naked Fast. It shows, because she is usually naked before the opening credits stop. But only if it's central to the plot, of course.
Shannon received the GNF Lifetime achievement award in 2003. It was presented to her by the 2002 winner Barbi Benton, whose career was tragically cut short when she turned 30.
Here's a vote for Shannon. The anti Hepburn.
2003-06-30 19:00 | User Profile
Originally posted by N.B. Forrest@Jun 29 2003, 08:53 * ** I also want to see T3. I enjoyed the first two, and am looking forward to seeing the Terminatrix (Kristanna Loken) in action.*
A pretty girl, without question, but scary enough to pull off a role as a remorseless, murdering cyborg? Women are many things, but physically intimidating they're not. Leave it to Jewwood to give us an "empowered" robotic beyatch....
Something at least remotely believable is all I ask. **
NB, you do have to consider that a striking BLONDE is used as the more advanced killing machine in T3 ... you know, show how cold and deadly those Ice People are, even behind good looks, etc... ;)
That said, my choice on films is determined by ... well, a lot of the time by my two little boys. While a lot of things are crap, and I try to "censor" things in a roundabout fashion by misdirecting their attention here and there, I'll admit they do have some pull. The other determinant is SFX, obviously because I work in visual effects, and want to see it on the big screen, or see what others have done. I sit there in "tech mode" a lot of the time when an effects heavy scene is on the screen. Obviously, my wife has a big say also. Darn, I guess I'm getting pushed around by the family. So I've suffered through my share of "chick flicks" and all their social messages which I'm always glad to point out to the wifey, heheheeheheeehe :P.
A side note on T3, the original script for the film by Ted Sarafian (Tank Girl :blink:) apparently reeked ... with Ah-nuld saying "... this is sh*t." Micheal Ferris and Johnny Brancato, both pretty good writers within the constraints of yahoodi Hollywood, were brought in to fix it up. The T-800's arrival, or I should say, his choice of locations to pick up some clothes is rather amusing this time around. Funny in terms of what happened in the first two films (punkers and bikers). It's summer fare, but the director is not James Cameron in terms of visual style. Truth be told, work is already underway, wardrobe wise, for T4 - but the opening weekend is going to determine whether or not they go ahead full steam with the next installment. But they are working on elements of the film to get a head start. It's supposed to be "secret", but c'mon.
Hepburn? A sexless sweatbag utterly lacking in femininity, IMHO. Even when I was a little kid, she struck me as an old maid, a very dyke-like old maid. I side with Eric, I would have tossed her overboard on the African Queen.
2003-06-30 19:28 | User Profile
No, but seriously, Von: how do you really feel about Katherine Hepburn?
I started noticing a while ago that movies with supposed 40 and 50 million dollar budgets looked little better than 2-hour fall-premiere episodes of lousy tv shows. After a little thinking-cap work, I began to realize a few things regarding current movies.
Salaries. A huge chunk of any star-vehicle's budget.
Prints struck. Pre-multiplexes, a major - and I mean major - motion picture might strike 3 or 400 prints for distribution. Today, if it's opening in theaters at all, it's a slave to overriding movie economics which means it has to open EVERYWHERE at once, so 2- 4000 prints are immediately put into circulation, all of which have to be processed, insured, shipped, etc. There are a lot of movies out there that, once you subtract the stars and execs' salaries and deduct the costs accrued by a 3000-theater opening weekend, there's five million left to shoot the movie with.
CGI. 90% of the time, it looks inauthentic and it's just there to secretly funnel more money back to the principals. Note that creating fx via computers has not lowered budgets even an iota; in facyt, they keep going up. Now how can a $100 million dollar movie cost $100 million if the most impressive aspects of it are just manipulations of exposed celluloid created on a computer?
Product placement. So prevalent now even the snootier critics don't bother getting angry about it.
Crowd scenes. What happened to them? They're either nonexistant or they're ten-people crowds digitally multiplied into 100 or 1000 or 10,000.
No directors. There really isn't a place for them anymore. Directors now serve the function of company men, project supervisors. What would you "direct" on a Jerry Bruckheimer movie? The star, who's earning 30% of the budget in salary and is co-executive oproducing? You're lucky if he acknowledges your presence on the set. Special effect sequences and stunts? How the fk do you "direct" an explosion? That's all handled by second unit and CGI crews, not you. Dramatic sequences? Well, sure, but if you haven't noticed, that 'MTV influence' we keep hearing about is based on countless rapid-edits of which there are millions in recent movies. Too many edits, too many hand-held shots, too many tricks with the film stock for effect. But that's not directing, it's paste-up work, collage. Directing is making decisions on framing, photographing and presenting scenes to tell a story a certain way. Flashy, 'contemporary' jump-cuts over a rap or skatecore song, followed by establishing shots that must include the Pizza Hut logo prominently, whatever else their intent, followed by a few static dialogue exchanges in between CGI dragons or pyrotechnic fireball plumes.....this is delivering a product, not filmmaking. And the directors who do get carte-blanche are all cookie-cutter replicants of the same template: ponytailed, multi-cultui with their uniformly 'dark, pessimistic, edgy' visions. The System is smart enough to cultivate a few dystopian visions in the cultural hothouse to encourage you to think there's a diversity of vision and approaches out there.
Don't get me wrong, there are still good movies made now and then. But the majority of them are BIG TV, nothing more. Much much louder TV with more blood, more things blowing up, more nudity and more "f**ck"s in it than the home version. I can't tell you how many movies that, when they finally get to tv, feel as if they've come home where they belong.
The movies as a narrative artform exhibit every sign of a wasted skeletal patient on life support. The other day I watched a few Buster Keaton shorts like THE BOAT and ONE WEEK. Simple, clean, as beautifully precise as a Swiss watch. Nearly all of it was in medium-shot so that the audience could see for themselves there were no camera tricks utilized: the timing of the physical comedy, the mindboggling perilous stunts and pratfalls are all right there in front of you. Amazing stuff with zero pretension or self-consciousness that, frankly, felt like I was taking a much-needed shower after the last few years of HAPPY GILMORE & DUDE WHERE'S MY CAR?
2003-06-30 19:52 | User Profile
Il Ragno, I think I mentioned this before, but when you hear that a film's budget is $100 million ... it's usually 50% - 60% of that. No joke. The studios aren't even putting up most of the money in most cases. It's "investors". Many of the star salaries you hear about, like so and so getting $20 million up front, are b.s. Seriously. Most of the time, they are getting a piece of the action, the gross, while the big upfront payday stories are crap for the masses. This isn't true all of the time, but a lot of the time. The execs are also getting much of their $$$ from the box office, foreign, ancillary markets, etc. That's why no movies ever really show a profit. The folks in DC are well greased to make sure Hollywood accounting practices are ignored. (Sure, I could go into the guys getting $20 mil up front, and a piece of the action, but if it's mentioned publicly, there's usually an element of crap to those stories)
Effects? Cheaper than ever to create. Faster than ever in creation and execution. Expensive to a point, but only in terms of the number of people needed to get things done rapidly. You'd be surprised at the number of ignorant, arrogant, yahoodi directors who try to direct CGI explosions and the like, which you CAN do, but they way they try to shows that the Hollywood hierarchy is based on ethnic nepotism and not intelligence.
Prints? That's why digital projection is going to take over. Despite Triskelion having his doubts, film is on the way out. Go see T3 and tell me which scenes were shot in HD Video. You won't be able to, I guarantee it.
Stories? Don't make me laugh anyone. Concepts. That's all the studios care about. Concepts - and working their propaganda into the concepts, a la "The Fast And The Furious".
Directors? Actually, you can still direct a lot of stars, because they are soooo stupid. I mean that. Many stars are morons. Intelligence is not necessary to be a decent actor (yes, most actors today cannot act). There is the ego factor presented by some stars. Most jewish stars have this aplenty, but it's also true for many non-jews. Take Sean Connery for instance. A complete bastard much of the time. Fights with directors constantly, he is the one who reserves authority for the shooting schedules, etc. Or so he thinks. He had tremendous battles with the director of "The Leauge of Extraordinary Gentlemen", and that's why you don't see him anywhere promoting the film. Maybe he'll be enticed, but I doubt it.
The MTV influence is pervasive, but it's also due to Uncle Abe at Universal letting his son or nephew cut his teeth over at MTV directing videos, before moving him up to the "big time" in episodic TV or motion pictures. Yeah, there's some non-jews also, but the majority ...
I'm still waiting for a job that has us digitally take care of product placement in a major film. It'll happen :P . The money that the companies put out for product placement keep the financial outlay lower for the studios, obviously.
2003-06-30 20:32 | User Profile
**NB, you do have to consider that a striking BLONDE is used as the more advanced killing machine in T3 ... you know, show how cold and deadly those Ice People are, even behind good looks, etc... ;) **
I like to think the reason that the machines in the Terminator and The Matrix films (for the most part, anyway) are portrayed by White people, is that the machines are supposed to be of superior intelligence, so it only makes sense that they'd choose Whites to represent them. :D
*Hepburn? A sexless sweatbag utterly lacking in femininity, IMHO.* Even when I was a little kid, she struck me as an old maid, a very dyke-like old maid. I side with Eric, I would have tossed her overboard on the African Queen.
"I don't like Katherine Hepburn. Katherine Hepburn gets on my nerves because she's holier than thou. People in Hollywood can't believe that I hate Katherine Hepburn. It's like you committed blasphemy, like you just said the meanest thing about Jesus, that's how they act. Oh please! She's the kind of person I always fled from, an old preppy with an attitude. She thinks she's creating art every time she steps out of her house. She's humor-impaired about herself. She'll say little things to put herself down, but in the way an old WASP does. That's hardly original. And I find the public's awe of her offensive. Maybe that's why I dislike her, how the public sees her, and how she flips out and stops any play she's in if someone takes a picture of her. I always wanted to go to one of her performances with a strobe: "Go Katy Baby! Show it! Go, girl!" Like a stripper, just keep strobing her. What could they do--put you on death row? They'd just throw you out. And she'd have a nervous breakdown." -- [url=http://www.dreamlandnews.com/]John Waters[/url]
2003-06-30 22:03 | User Profile
The main thing I look for in a new film is the director. If a film is by a director I like (Ang Lee, Peter Jackson, Martin Scorcese), I'll see it no matter who's in it. Otherwise, I won't. It's that simple.
2003-07-01 00:29 | User Profile
I like films set outside the modern world.
2003-07-01 05:17 | User Profile
I never really liked Hepburn either. She was ok in a few movies, like Bringing Up Baby & Rooster Cogburn (being paired with Cary Grant & John Wayne helped make her slightly less annoying), but it's her I can't stand. She's a textbook example of a self-righteous New England leftist, absolutely sure of her superior morality & intelligence. And she's never to be forgiven for Guess Who's Coming To Dinner.
They had an old clip of her on before, honking that once she'd decided to pursue a Jewwood career and "be someone in my own right", children were out. A prototypical barren feminist tw-t.
Plus, I'd bet my last dollar that she enjoyed a sly taste of "carpet" every now & then, her love for "deah Spensah" notwithstanding. She had that dead-giveaway butch aspect so many of them have, like they have too much testosterone or something.
I can smell a bulldyke, I tells ya.....
2003-07-01 05:37 | User Profile
I watched T2 again on Sci Fi last night (we finally got it with our basic cable package last week, and more importantly, TCM :th:), and I was struck by what a scary villain the liquid metal terminator was: the average-sized Everymanish actor played him with just the right touch of calm, utter relentlessness. Chilling.
I didn't care so much for the comedic elements. They played it absolutely straight in T1, which helpled make it one of the all-time great movies. Still, a fine film in its own right.
Can't stand Linda Hamilton, though. Those stringy biceps, those sunken cheeks.....Don Knotts after 6 weeks of Soloflex.
Ugh.
2003-07-01 06:05 | User Profile
**Can't stand Linda Hamilton, though. Those stringy biceps, those sunken cheeks.....Don Knotts after 6 weeks of Soloflex.
Ugh.**
Ugh X 2. There is no excuse for this penchant for muscle tone among starlets. Real men prefer curves. Now only if women believed this. :punk:
Iââ¬â¢m an eclectic sort when it comes to movies, except comedies of which there few if any worth seeing. The only film that Iââ¬â¢ll consider on account of star power alone is one with Anthony Hopkins, though I fear heââ¬â¢s slipping as of late. Supposedly, heââ¬â¢s being considered for the starring role portraying David Irving during his lawsuit concerning the holocaust. Doesnââ¬â¢t seem possible, [url=http://www.fpp.co.uk/Legal/Penguin/films/Ridley_Scott/STel290603.html]but there it is[/url]. I do not know what the odds are of this flick actually being made, but if it is, itââ¬â¢s bound to be interesting, if only to see how faithful it is in collating pertinent tidbits from the trialââ¬â¢s transcripts. Never mind... :clown:
2003-07-01 06:41 | User Profile
I'm a huge fan of comedy...I really enjoy the Marx brothers and Woody Allen films, I have most of them on DVD. What can I say? I'm a sucker for Jewish comedy, I suppose....I even gasp own Fiddler on the Roof!
If you guys like horror, sci-fi type films [which I often find terribly dull], check out 28 Days Later...very disturbing, although the ending was a disappointment.
2003-07-01 06:44 | User Profile
I definitely stay away from movies that are black and white, meaning that both stars are one of each. It seems there are so much of that lately that I have lost interest in those types of action flicks.
I am also a science fiction fan, but have quite disappointed in the newest SciFi flicks. Most of them are so big on props and effects, that the storyline suffers. It also seems to me from the last few flicks, such as Star Trek and Star Wars that the storylines are weak and dull (much like my writing per Kurt mentioned in another post. Can't help it--but love ya, Kurt, anyway!)
Since very few films delight me, I just stay home and forget about giving my hard earned cash to the studios and actors that only in turn send it over to Israel or some African country. I don't like to indirectly support either one.
2003-07-01 18:18 | User Profile
Dunno about FIDDLER ON THE ROOF, but nothing wrong with the Marx Bros.
"Go, and never darken my towels again!"
NB: TCM is one of the few justifications for cable tv. Great channel. I highly highly recommend setting your VCR to tape TOO HOT TO HANDLE tomorrow afternoon: a way-underrated Gable comedy featuring classic old-movie caricatures of jabbering Chinese and cannibal jungle blacks.
2003-07-02 14:32 | User Profile
*Originally posted by il ragno@Jul 1 2003, 18:18 * ** NB: TCM is one of the few justifications for cable tv. Great channel. I highly highly recommend setting your VCR to tape TOO HOT TO HANDLE tomorrow afternoon: a way-underrated Gable comedy featuring classic old-movie caricatures of jabbering Chinese and cannibal jungle blacks. **
Thanks for the heads-up. I understand they showed a Clara Bow film on there a while back. You know I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for more of *that. *
Why, I do believe TCM is even better than TNT & the "Super"Station! :D
Court TV is also very enjoyable: saw Chante get hers, and I love all those forensic science crook-catching shows - every night, rather than just Tuesdays, like on Discovery.
2003-07-02 19:58 | User Profile
When W.C. Fields returns, the movies once again will mean something. Laurel and Hardy should be his opening act.
2003-07-03 06:29 | User Profile
Black Hawk Down also showed white males in a positive light - when it came to courage, warrior spirit, etc. Suprising in today's Hollywood. Changing the Somalians to Swedes and the US soldiers to Nigerians or Mexicans is too much even for the white hating crowd of gangsters running Hollywood right now.
2003-07-03 06:33 | User Profile
Originally posted by N.B. Forrest+Jul 2 2003, 06:32 -->
QUOTE* (N.B. Forrest @ Jul 2 2003, 06:32 ) <!--QuoteBegin-il ragno@Jul 1 2003, 18:18 * ** NB: TCM is one of the few justifications for cable tv. Great channel. I highly highly recommend setting your VCR to tape TOO HOT TO HANDLE tomorrow afternoon: a way-underrated Gable comedy featuring classic old-movie caricatures of jabbering Chinese and cannibal jungle blacks. ** Thanks for the heads-up. I understand they showed a Clara Bow film on there a while back. You know I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for more of *that. *
Why, I do believe TCM is even better than TNT & the "Super"Station! :D
Court TV is also very enjoyable: saw Chante get hers, and I love all those forensic science crook-catching shows - every night, rather than just Tuesdays, like on Discovery. **
Hell, may as well add one more post. NB, CourtTV is great late night viewing. ** Forensic Files ** is interesting as hell, and politically incorrect as night after night it shows whites using ingenuity, innovation, inventiveness and science to catch criminals. As an aside, if you want to teach your children some facts on race without saying a word, let them watch ** Animal Precinct** on Animal Planet. Blacks and mestizos are so inhumane, so cruel toward animals (not to mention the living conditions the muds create for themselves) it's amazing. And it's on film for everyone to see, with no commentary. Except the commentary you add as you watch ;)
Kurt
2003-07-03 06:55 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Roy Batty@Jul 3 2003, 00:29 * ** Black Hawk Down also showed white males in a positive light - when it came to courage, warrior spirit, etc. Suprising in today's Hollywood. [u]Changing the Somalians to Swedes and the US soldiers to Nigerians or Mexicans is too much even for the white hating crowd of gangsters running Hollywood right now.[/u] **
I wouldn't be surprised if in the future, Hollywood is going to take movies that make Whites the good guys and Blacks the bad guys (like Black Hawk Down) and change the races around, using some kind of advanced film editing techniques. Hey, they revise history, so why not movies?
[SIZE=2]Sometime in the near future, some very special film editors are hard at work on the film [u]Death Wish[/u]...
"Hey Shlomo, change the color of those African-American muggers to white, and make Charles Bronson black. Ok, The color is fine on the muggers, but you need to erase their afros. Good! Now they look like evil neo-nazi skinheads! Maybe add a swastika tattoo on that guy's forehead. Beautiful! And with Bronson, um, can't you make him a little darker? A little more...ah, poifect!"[/SIZE]
Roy Batty
2003-07-03 07:19 | User Profile
We've joked around at work about things like that before, Kurt. Like I mentioned before, you'll see more fims about courageous whites in Africa because the elites are gearing up to go in and "show" the continent how to make better use of its resources. For two decades, we were fed a lot of films with Arab baddies. Now it's the Africans turn, slowly but surely.
Now, about seeing American blacks as the evil rivals to courageous whites, well ... more fantastic than LOTR, eh?
Oh well, at least there are still a few good looking white women in Hollywood films, like Kristanna Loken, even if she is the "bad" girl ... :rolleyes:
N.B. Forrest
2003-07-03 20:34 | User Profile
Hell, may as well add one more post. NB, CourtTV is great late night viewing. Forensic Files is interesting as hell, and politically incorrect as night after night it shows whites using ingenuity, innovation, inventiveness and science to catch criminals.
Agreed. One show I don't particularly care for, however, is FBI Files (not that I've seen it on Court TV). Naturally the feebs are presented as infallible guardians of Truth, Justice & the American Way. That dry zombie of a host, James Kallstrom, former head of the NYC FBI office, is always good for a snort: last time they had a show about the round-up of a group of bank-robbing "White supremacists". Kallstrom made sure to add that "they were prosecuted for their acts, not their beliefs".
Yes, that's right. Just like Doles, Duke, Greenwood.....
:dung:
N.B. Forrest
2003-07-03 20:36 | User Profile
NB: TCM is one of the few justifications for cable tv. Great channel. I highly highly recommend setting your VCR to tape TOO HOT TO HANDLE tomorrow afternoon: a way-underrated Gable comedy featuring classic old-movie caricatures of jabbering Chinese and cannibal jungle blacks.
"Here - put some of this zinc ointment on your arms. It'll make you look like those other monkeys......" :lol:
Hilaire Belloc
2003-07-03 22:39 | User Profile
NB: TCM is one of the few justifications for cable tv. Great channel. I highly highly recommend setting your VCR to tape TOO HOT TO HANDLE tomorrow afternoon: a way-underrated Gable comedy featuring classic old-movie caricatures of jabbering Chinese and cannibal jungle blacks.
I like TCM and AMC a lot too. I very much like the old Hollywood films(pre-1970 mostly). I usually like dramas for movies, paticularily those set in the 19th century or before.
N.B. Forrest
2003-07-05 02:49 | User Profile
*Originally posted by perun1201@Jul 3 2003, 22:39 * ** I like TCM and AMC a lot too. I very much like the old Hollywood films(pre-1970 mostly). I usually like dramas for movies, paticularily those set in the 19th century or before. **
AMC has the occasional good movie, but they've really gone into the toilet in the last few years. Like TCM, they used to be commercial free. Then they started with 5 minute commercial "intermissions". Now it's ads every 5 minutes. Plus they play the same ol' crap over & over. The hell with that.
Hilaire Belloc
2003-07-05 06:11 | User Profile
**AMC has the occasional good movie, but they've really gone into the toilet in the last few years. Like TCM, they used to be commercial free. Then they started with 5 minute commercial "intermissions". Now it's ads every 5 minutes. Plus they play the same ol' crap over & over. The hell with that. **
I never understood why AMC does that. Can't there be one non premium cable channel without commericals. Soon its probally going to be like that one episode of "Futurama" where coroporations send singals to broadcast commericals in our dreams. I sure the shylocks would love to do that.
Hilaire Belloc
2003-07-06 06:04 | User Profile
Did anybody watch the 1937 movie "Camille" on TVO channel starring Greta Garbo? Based off the novel by Alexander Dumas. I haven't read the novel, but I thought Greta Garbo was very good playing her role(not to mention her beautiful looks :wub: ).
Lewis Wetzel
2003-07-08 18:54 | User Profile
As far as good-looking white women go, there's always Leelee Sobieski, the all-American descendant of Polish nobility:
[img]http://www.themovieking.com/pics/La/6.jpg[/img]
W.R.I.T.O.S
2003-07-14 03:21 | User Profile
I haven't seen a hollywood movie in the theatre for many years. I will die without ever again paying money to the jewish culture distorters. Drop out of this sick society. If you must have a peice of american trash culture in your possession, at least have the decency to steal it.
madrussian
2003-07-14 04:52 | User Profile
Originally posted by Lewis Wetzel@Jul 8 2003, 11:54 * As far as good-looking white women go, there's always Leelee Sobieski, the all-American descendant of Polish nobility:*
She resembles a chick I used to know (wink wink, nudge nudge ) who said she was of Polish ancestry. Sheeit, memories :D
Ruffin
2003-07-14 05:00 | User Profile
Originally posted by W.R.I.T.O.S@Jul 13 2003, 21:21 * I haven't seen a hollywood movie in the theatre for many years. I will die without ever again paying money to the jewish culture distorters. Drop out of this sick society. If you must have a peice of american trash culture in your possession, at least have the decency to steal it.*
Amen. It's like paying to have a boot stomp on ones own face forever.
eric von zipper
2003-07-14 14:18 | User Profile
The Poles have saved western civilization at least twice. King, later St John, Sobieski did it. Then when the Bolsheviks took Russia, Lenin sent forces west that were defeated by the Poles.
They will never save it again. I am sorry to say.
This is purely anecdotal but where I work we have an attractive Polish summer intern who is happily taking on all the congoids in the building. Her boyfriend, a large anthropoid, stands behind the cash register in a proprietary manner with his arms crossed and legs spread daring any man to talk to her. Unfortunately for him he has to take a work break every once in a while and that is when his fellow primates make their assignations with his all too willing race traitor paramour.
Speaking of movies, I watched that Mel Gibson one about the Revolution last night.
They were careful to show a few blacks in both the Brit and American armies.
The scene where the militia is lined up against the Brits and just before all hell breaks loose the white boy gazes lovingly at the the freed slave and says "it is an honor to fight beside you" registered in the red zone on the EVZ barf meter.