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Conservative [OP]

2003-06-29 06:06 | User Profile

See [url=http://www.aztlan.net/]http://www.aztlan.net/[/url]

Regards,

Ares


Lewis Wetzel

2003-06-29 22:56 | User Profile

Looks like the Latrinos are jumping right to anti-Jewish attitudes, without going through the normal steps of seeing their culture appropriated and their political interests hijacked. Maybe they're smarter than I give them credit for.


Drakmal

2003-06-30 00:20 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Lewis Wetzel@Jun 29 2003, 16:56 * ** Looks like the Latrinos are jumping right to anti-Jewish attitudes, without going through the normal steps of seeing their culture appropriated and their political interests hijacked. Maybe they're smarter than I give them credit for. **

Don't count on it; now they have jewry against them. Which means no more Aztlan rallies at universities, no more positive coverage in papers, etc.


Raider of Arks

2003-06-30 00:28 | User Profile

It's more a matter of Latinos properly remembering their anti-semitism, having missed the rehabilitation of Jewry via holocaust film, than it is of them suddenly discovering anti-semitism. In other words, they haven't been brainwashed yet, and have the traditional Catholic anti-semitism.


Walter Yannis

2003-06-30 10:06 | User Profile

Originally posted by Drakmal+Jun 30 2003, 00:20 -->

QUOTE* (Drakmal @ Jun 30 2003, 00:20 )
<!--QuoteBegin-Lewis Wetzel@Jun 29 2003, 16:56 * ** Looks like the Latrinos are jumping right to anti-Jewish attitudes, without going through the normal steps of seeing their culture appropriated and their political interests hijacked.  Maybe they're smarter than I give them credit for. **

Don't count on it; now they have jewry against them. Which means no more Aztlan rallies at universities, no more positive coverage in papers, etc. **

Yeah, but I say give credit where it's due.

Unlike my own dear whitebreads, our Bronze Continent friends actually have a sense of themselves and a collective destiny.

As a group they're not real bright, of course, but their hearts are in the right place; i.e with their own people.

Walter


Kurt

2003-06-30 14:37 | User Profile

Too bad "Latinos/Hispanics" aren't a real Race, like Whites and Blacks. They're merely some gubbiment-created label: "Do you speak Spanish? Does your surname end in 'ez?' If so, you may be a Hispanic, and eligible for all sorts of government programs, such as affirmative action..." I mean, a Mestizo from Mexico, a Black from the Dominican Republic, and a blond-haired, blue-eyed White from Spain are all considered Latinos/Hispanics (I'm not 100% sure if there is a distinction made between "Latino" and "Hispanic." I think Hispanic is the term used on govt forms and job apps). What kind of race is that?

I do agree that Whites could learn a thing or two about unity from Latinos/Hispanics; of course, unlike Latinos (and just about any other ethnic/racial group), Whites aren't allowed to practice any kind of unity, under penalty of law. :hit:


eric von zipper

2003-06-30 14:54 | User Profile

I'll say one thing about them. They won't allow themselves and their offspring to be mind F****d the way whites allow it.

I was reading the Baltimore Sun yesterday, and they had a feature in the local section that showed a dozen little white girls under 10 years old retracing the Underground Railroad on some farm outside of Baltimore. Some of the girls looked to be 5 years old.

They were putting the little girls through their paces. They were even chasing them - believe it or not - with a freakin bloodhound. Can you believe this sh*t? This is too over the top for even Orwell or Huxley.

One picture showed them crawling on their hands and knees across a creek on a felled tree.

You gotta instill that guilt feeling in them early on. The younger the better.


Kurt

2003-06-30 15:32 | User Profile

Originally posted by eric von zipper@Jun 30 2003, 08:54 * ** I'll say one thing about them. They won't allow themselves and their offspring to be mind F***d the way whites allow it.

I was reading the Baltimore Sun yesterday, and they had a feature in the local section that showed a dozen little white girls under 10 years old retracing the Underground Railroad on some farm outside of Baltimore. Some of the girls looked to be 5 years old.

They were putting the little girls through their paces. They were even chasing them - believe it or not - with a freakin bloodhound. Can you believe this sh*t? This is too over the top for even Orwell or Huxley.

One picture showed them crawling on their hands and knees across a creek on a felled tree.

You gotta instill that guilt feeling in them early on. The younger the better. **

Yes, that is sick; though I'm sure if there were any Hispanics (and Asians) in that class, they'd have to go through it, too. Blacks are higher up on the victim-chain.

I've heard about this type of :dung: before. [url=http://www.pacificjustice.org/press/2002/pr071802.htm]In Alameda, CA[/url], some 8th grade students had their hands bound with masking tape and were duct-taped to the floor to give them an idea what it was like for slaves on a slave-ship. :thd:

[SIZE=2]And of course, there's always this [url=http://www.horizonmag.com/4/jane-elliott.asp]bitch[/url].[/SIZE]

Yeah, forget about math, science, and English. We need to teach our kids [url=http://teacher.scholastic.com/professional/teachdive/raceissues.htm]guilt[/url]. That will really help the US get ahead and stay competitive in the global marketplace. :rolleyes:


Roy Batty

2003-06-30 18:35 | User Profile

Kurt, I've read that stuff on Jane Elliot before, most recently at Vdare. Seems that her students in '68 had the right idea about most blacks when she polled them; "... She queried the kids on what they knew about Black people (none having ever met a Black person). Their responses were bile-laden: "They’re dirty," "They stink," "They don’t smell good," "They riot, they steal," "You can’t trust them, my dad says they better not try to move in next door to us." No wonder they try to inculcate guilt ASAP in the public schools.

As for the latrinos ... the guy running aztlan.net has been howling about jews for several years. The "LA Weekly", the LA version of the Village Voice, did a hit piece on him a few months ago, calling him Southern CA's biggest anti-semite, "... and he's not even White!" While the jews use them as tools against whites, same as they've used blacks as a cudgel for decades, many of the mojados (wetbacks) look at the "judios" as Christ killers, perverts, cheap bastards, snakes, etc. Just ask them. The jews, on the other hand, make sure that every latrino politician on the way up, gets indoctrinated, then placed on the payroll, with all of them getting trips to Israel, like Antonio Villaraigosa, Art Torres ("Proposition 187 is the last gasp of white America") etc. Push comes to shove, the mestizo mudmen playing politico will probably turn against the jews in a second. It's an incredible mess.

While aztlan.net does attack the jews, with amusing articles like "Kosher Nostra" (about the Kosher tax), the guy running the site, Hector Carreon, is a rabid believer in Aztlan - although he does complain that EVERY ethnic group in the US is being used by jews, and feels there would be less tension without jews meddling and pitting everyone against each other. I guess there's a few ways to look at this. One way to put a positive spin on it would be to hope that everyone would end up seeing who is creating the chaos, the "divide and conquer" situation to enlarge the pile of gold they're sitting on.


Kurt

2003-06-30 20:14 | User Profile

Here's a link to that [url=http://www.vdare.com/fulford/years_of_rage.htm]Elliot article[/url] on Vdare (it sickens me that she actually gets paid to spew her :dung: )

[SIZE=2]Her so-called brilliant experiment with brown-eyed vs. blue-eyed children was stupid anyway, since all of the children were White.[/SIZE]

Carreon should just stick to hating White people, and leave the jews alone (not that I want him too). If he had done that, LA Weekly and other jewsmedia would've left him alone; in fact, they probably would have applauded his efforts.

SIZE=2[/SIZE] :rolleyes:


M1488D

2003-07-01 04:24 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Jun 30 2003, 04:06 * **

As a group they're not real bright, of course, but their hearts are in the right place; i.e with their own people.

**

Yes, just like the jews, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Africans,,,,,etc. except good, old Whitey.

I give the Mexicans 0 credit. They are no friends of mine, esp. at this point in eternity.


Frederick William I

2003-07-03 23:16 | User Profile

Originally posted by Roy Batty@Jun 30 2003, 18:35 * As for the latrinos ... the guy running aztlan.net has been howling about jews for several years.  The "LA Weekly", the LA version of the Village Voice, did a hit piece on him a few months ago, calling him Southern CA's biggest anti-semite, "... and he's not even White!"  While the jews use them as tools against whites, same as they've used blacks as a cudgel for decades, many of the mojados (wetbacks) look at the "judios" as Christ killers, perverts, cheap bastards, snakes, etc.  Just ask them.  The jews, on the other hand, make sure that every latrino politician on the way up, gets indoctrinated, then placed on the payroll, with all of them getting trips to Israel, like Antonio Villaraigosa, Art Torres ("Proposition 187 is the last gasp of white America") etc.  Push comes to shove, the mestizo mudmen playing politico will probably turn against the jews in a second.  It's an incredible mess.* Of course street blacks, as well as leaders such as Farrakan and even Jesse Jackson once upon a time, have been anti-semitic for years. It never seems to amount to much though. Like you note when push comes to shove, the Jews have a way of pushing either buying them out, or occasionally knocking them off (i.e. Cynthia McKinney).

It's an interesting story along these lines that a few years ago some Klan leaders and Tom Metzger attempted a WN - Black Nationalist dialogue with Farrakan and Co. It broke down of course. Metzger said it was because so many were preachers, and he never seemed to be able to get along with preachers.

That's where atheism gets you :( Although I'm sure dialoging with the like of Farrakan would be a trying experience for anyone.

While aztlan.net does attack the jews, with amusing articles like "Kosher Nostra" (about the Kosher tax), the guy running the site, Hector Carreon, is a rabid believer in Aztlan - although he does complain that EVERY ethnic group in the US is being used by jews, and feels there would be less tension without jews meddling and pitting everyone against each other.  I guess there's a few ways to look at this.  One way to put a positive spin on it would be to hope that everyone would end up seeing who is creating the chaos, the "divide and conquer" situation to enlarge the pile of gold they're sitting on.

True. Of course as Kevin MacDonald noted diversity tends to work in Jews favor. It makes sense - different ethnic groups have great difficulty working together even if they agree on the common Jewish threat. That's why he's noted Jews feel more comfortable amidst cultural diversity.

But it also shows that in the long run even multiculturalism may not in the end serve Jewish interests, as he notes in Culture of Critique


Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-07-03 23:38 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Lewis Wetzel@Jun 29 2003, 16:56 * ** Looks like the Latrinos are jumping right to anti-Jewish attitudes, without going through the normal steps of seeing their culture appropriated and their political interests hijacked.  Maybe they're smarter than I give them credit for. **

Of course this is the only reason that the neo-con Front Page Magazine runs articles criticizing the aztlan movement; the Horowitzim have finally realized that the mixed massess south of the border (well, not really South of the border anymore) do not care for The Tribe, The Holocaust™, and its other grievances, real or imagined.


Howard Campbell, Jr.

2003-07-04 05:58 | User Profile

Actually, Metzger did work with the NOI in the 1980's and spoke at a major (15,000+) Muslim rally in L.A.

Rockwell worked with Malcolm X in the 1960's; Marcus Garvey was cordial to the Kluxers in the '20s.

Folk who put blood and spirit above mammon/glands consumerism can usually make common cause. It's people who deny their own grandpaps that can't be trusted...


Frederick William I

2003-07-04 16:49 | User Profile

Originally posted by Howard Campbell@ Jr.,Jul 4 2003, 05:58 * *Actually, Metzger did work with the NOI in the 1980's and spoke at a major (15,000+) Muslim rally in L.A.

Rockwell worked with Malcolm X in the 1960's;  Marcus Garvey was cordial to the Kluxers in the '20s.

**

These are interesting aberrations, but never rose to the level where they could concretely influence the political spectrum. It would seem, like with the anti-Zionist left of which these groups generaly are closely related to, there are a lot of things potentially we have in common with these people.

It never seems to work out that way much though. We may have the ideas, but the Jews have the money - something which with a movement dominated by lowlifes like Jesse Jackson usually speaks much louder.

BTW, for those of us not famliar with minority acronyms, what was the NOI?


Lady_America

2003-07-04 17:04 | User Profile

Originally posted by eric von zipper@Jun 30 2003, 08:54 * ** I'll say one thing about them. They won't allow themselves and their offspring to be mind F***d the way whites allow it.

I was reading the Baltimore Sun yesterday, and they had a feature in the local section that showed a dozen little white girls under 10 years old retracing the Underground Railroad on some farm outside of Baltimore. Some of the girls looked to be 5 years old.

They were putting the little girls through their paces. They were even chasing them - believe it or not - with a freakin bloodhound. Can you believe this sh*t? This is too over the top for even Orwell or Huxley.

One picture showed them crawling on their hands and knees across a creek on a felled tree.

You gotta instill that guilt feeling in them early on. The younger the better. **

That's a reason I have my children in a private school. It may be parochial, but it's better than the public school system. And, California is sickenly multiculturalized with the white child to be indoctrinated.

I'm in a philosophy class with younger students (I'm middle-aged) and everytime the professor asks to give an example of a strong character, sacrificing character, etc. and on and on--the endless responses are Rosa Parks and MLK. However, after constantly hearing the lack of real characters and heros, I always manage to be able to interject with a Franklin, Jefferson and Washington. They are so indoctrinated that their little minds are unable to identify strong white men.

Its horrible. And, if you want to see the indoctrination for yourself, sign up for a class at your local community college in history or ethics or philosophy. It'll turn your stomach.

Lady


Kurt

2003-07-04 20:37 | User Profile

**It's an interesting story along these lines that a few years ago some Klan leaders and Tom Metzger attempted a WN - Black Nationalist dialogue with Farrakan and Co.  It broke down of course. Metzger said it was because so many were preachers, and he never seemed to be able to get along with preachers.

That's where atheism gets you  Although I'm sure dialoging with the like of Farrakan would be a trying experience for anyone.**

Yeah, those damn atheists! It's all their fault for all of White America's problems! :rolleyes: Why can't they be more like you [url=http://www.ncccusa.org/news/03news55.html]Christians?[/url] SIZE=1 :y [/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]NOI = Nation Of Islam[/SIZE]


Frederick William I

2003-07-04 22:00 | User Profile

Originally posted by Kurt@Jul 4 2003, 20:37 * ** Yeah, those damn atheists! It's all their* fault for all of White America's problems! :rolleyes: Why can't they be more like you [url=http://www.ncccusa.org/news/03news55.html]Christians?[/url] SIZE=1 :y [/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]NOI = Nation Of Islam[/SIZE] **

I'm praying for you Kurt :D


Texas Dissident

2003-07-05 08:13 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Frederick William I@Jul 4 2003, 17:00 * ** I'm praying for you Kurt :D **

Many will no doubt laugh and scoff, but I pray daily for this site and for guidance in how to deal with it all. I do take it very seriously and wonder from time to time if good guys like NN, wintermute, IR and Franco somehow know of the prayers that go up for them. :)


Walter Yannis

2003-07-05 17:28 | User Profile

Originally posted by Texas Dissident+Jul 5 2003, 08:13 -->

QUOTE* (Texas Dissident @ Jul 5 2003, 08:13 )
<!--QuoteBegin-Frederick William I@Jul 4 2003, 17:00 * ** I'm praying for you Kurt  :D **

Many will no doubt laugh and scoff, but I pray daily for this site and for guidance in how to deal with it all. I do take it very seriously and wonder from time to time if good guys like NN, wintermute, IR and Franco somehow know of the prayers that go up for them. :) **

Um . . . you're leaving somebody out here, Tex.

Me!!!!

Say a couple for me, brother, and I'll do the same for you.

Walter


Frederick William I

2003-07-05 20:01 | User Profile

Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Jul 5 2003, 17:28 * *Um . . . you're leaving somebody out here, Tex.

Me!!!!

Say a couple for me, brother, and I'll do the same for you.

Walter**

Anybody else left off our prayer list?

There may be a lot of heathens on this board, but so far I haven't encountered any Dershowitz "Jerry - God doesn't want your prayers" types. So unless you specify, everyone here is eligible for mine.

(Interesting thought - you don't think Falwell, somewhere in the back of his mind, might be praying for Israel just out of spite for Dershowitz, do you?) I can just see Dershowitz ranking at fundies telling him Israel has been saved out of the kind prayers of Christians. But the Dershy's can't complain too loud, accepting fundies prayers is the price they pay for accepting their money, something they never turn down :lol:


Conservative

2003-08-16 04:41 | User Profile

Here is the mailing list of La Voz de Aztlan: [url=http://www.aztlan.net/subscribe.htm]http://www.aztlan.net/subscribe.htm[/url] Lots of good info. on Jewish parasitism.

Regards,

Ares


Centinel

2003-08-16 04:50 | User Profile

Ares, everyone on who's been on OD for a few months or more knows about aztlan.net. Hell, you can't even read the establishment neocon press very long before Horowitz or Farah rants about those eeevull anti-Semitic mestizos.

Either you must think everyone here is dumber than a doorknob or you're self-infatuated with your "suppressed information."


Conservative

2003-08-17 07:17 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Centinel@Aug 15 2003, 22:50 * ** Ares, everyone on who's been on OD for a few months or more knows about aztlan.net. Hell, you can't even read the establishment neocon press very long before Horowitz or Farah rants about those eeevull anti-Semitic mestizos.

Either you must think everyone here is dumber than a doorknob or you're self-infatuated with your "suppressed information." **

It's my planned out tribalism behavior: when one comes across resources, he must make sure everyone else in the tribe finds out about it. Jews have this tribalism, which helps make them very successful; Whites lack it and are pathologically individualistic.

Please keep your criticisms rational.

Regards,

Ares