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2003-06-26 14:23 | User Profile
NEWSPAPER COVERAGE OF THE ST. LOUIS METRO AREA COUNCIL OF CONSERVATIVE CITIZENS' IMMIGRATION REFORM RALLY PART III
The following are four articles, one news article, and three letters to the editor, which appeared in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch between May 6 and May 31.
May 6, 2003 ANTI-IMMIGRANT GROUP STAGES PROTEST ON CINCO DE MAYO By Jeremy Kohler Of the Post-Dispatch
Illegal aliens should be sent home, the United States should guard its southern border, and a freeze should be placed on immigration, 30 demonstrators [There were actually about fifty - Webmaster's ed.] said Monday night outside the West County shopping center.
Members of the Council of Conservative Citizens said they were educating motorists on Manchester Road about how the world exploits loose U.S. borders to the detriment of Americans. Cinco de Mayo, a Mexican holiday, offered the group an excuse to put its cross hairs on illegal Mexicans, members said.
"Our open border with Mexico has become a conduit for drugs and unskilled workers who take jobs (for less pay) and force incomes to ratchet downward," said organizer Earl Holt of St. Louis, who wore a sombrero.
The difference between the immigration of a century ago and that of today is that previous waves brought Europeans "with whom we share a common cultural ethos, rather than the dregs of the Third World who have turned their own countries into cesspools and will do that to our country if we let them," Holt said.
Demonstrators held signs that said, "Deport All Illegals," "Taliban (Loves) Open Borders" and "Now Swim Back." They lamented what they view as immigrants' high birth rates, their drain on the U.S. economy, and their dilution of white, Christian culture. "Gutless politicians" don't do anything to stem immigration because they're afraid of retribution from the liberal media, Holt said.
The demonstration, which stretched about 50 yards down Manchester just east of Interstate 270, drew some curious stares, a few honks, and a few razzes.
Richard Rodgers, of Maplewood, said, "Immigrants are destroying my culture and changing my country. We need a moratorium until we can digest the masses we've got. What we've got isn't immigration. It's an invasion."
RACIST PROTESTORS MAR CINCO DE MAYO Letter to the Editor, May 10, 2003
I am embarrassed and dumbfounded that we still have groups like the Council of Conservative Citizens living in this country. During Cinco de Mayo, its members demonstrated against immigration.
How dare they waste time with their racist views? Sure, illegal aliens are breaking the law, but to lump a Mexican worker and the Taliban together is ridiculous. It's one thing to say we need tighter border control, but to insult a whole country's culture is totally offensive.
Earl Holt says, "Our open border with Mexico has become a conduit for drugs and unskilled workers who take jobs (for less pay) and force incomes to ratchet downward." He implies that all Mexicans are unskilled. How would he know? People are hiring them. No one is stopping him from applying for those same jobs.
Holt refers to the immigration of a century ago and the waves of Europeans, "with whom we share a common cultural ethos, rather than the dregs of the Third World, who have turned their own countries into cesspools and will do that to our country if we let them." That's something a scared and cowardly person would say.
Does he not realize that when the waves of Europeans came here they did not share a "common cultural ethos" with the indigenous inhabitants of this country that the Europeans took from them? Does he not realize that we unfairly acquired a huge chunk of the United States from Mexico?
One of the great things that make our country so great is the diversity and the compassionate nature of the people no matter what race, creed or religion. I would be proud to have the immigrants I've met as my neighbors - rather than anyone in the Council of Conservative Citizens.
Instead of standing on the side of a highway with insulting signs, why doesn't Holt do something productive? If he feels he has so many skills, why doesn't he share some of those skills and teach them to "unskilled" workers?
Why didn't he join the Cinco de Mayo festival and speak to some of the people from Mexico instead of insulting them on a day of celebration?
Richard Rodgers said that the immigrants are destroying his culture and changing his country. I say, Open your eyes, Mr. Rodgers. This country is made up of immigrants, and you are the people that are destroying it with your hate-mongering, white-pride approach.
Put down your signs. Educate yourself and take care of your family. That's all the immigrants are trying to do.
Sandra Marchewa St. Louis
INSTEAD OF EXPLOITING IMMIGRANTS, WE SHOULD IMPROVE THEIR STANDARD OF LIVING Letter to the Editor, May 24, 2003
A May 5 article, "Anti-Immigrant group stages protest on Cinco de Mayo," quotes Earl Holt speaking of sharing a "common cultural ethos" with the immigrants of a century ago vs. the "dregs of the Third World" entering our southern border today.
Shame on the school system he attended. If my memory serves me correctly, Andrew Carnegie was once the richest man in the world. More importantly, he was a Scottish immigrant who as notorious for pitting one ethnic immigrant group against another - all in the name of profits for the fledgling steel and railroad industries.
As for Richard Rodgers' concern about these immigrants destroying his culture and changing his country, unless he is of Native American descent, I suggest he rethink his remarks pertaining to the immigrant "invasion."
By no means do I condone the illegal status of these immigrants, but our free market economy (including you and me) certainly does; otherwise, they would not be here to do the menial tasks bestowed upon them.
Are Holt and Rodgers - or their children - willing to perform strenuous tasks and dangerous manual labor for less than $6 an hour without benefits?
In my opinion, the solution to their dilemma lies in assisting the less fortunate and improving their standard of living - not exploiting immigrants for personal gains.
John S. Gaal Carpenters' Union Ballwin
FLOOD OF ILLEGAL ALIENS ACROSS SOUTHERN BORDER IS DAMAGING AMERICA Letter to the Editor, May 31, 2003
Two recent letters took exception to the May 5 Immigration Reform Rally at the West County Shopping Center by our Council of Conservative Citizens.
Sandra Marchewa objected, in her May 10 letter, since she apparently identifies with those Third World cesspools where the right to peaceably assemble is as alien as indoor plumbing.
Mexicans and the Taliban were "lumped together" because our porous border with Mexico provides easy entry for both terrorists and illegal aliens from Latin America, in addition to massive quantities of illegal drugs. I did not imply that all illegal Mexican immigrants are potential terrorists.
Europeans were here long before those "indigenous inhabitants" alluded to by both letters, as Kennewick Man and Penon Woman bear eloquent testimony. Carbon dating proves that white Europeans inhabited the North American land mass for thousands of years before the Bering Straits provided a land bridge for Asian migrants, who eventually massacred those whites.
In point of fact, European immigrants of the 19th and 20th centuries did share a common cultural ethos with white Americans, enabling enormous numbers to successfully assimilate - in contrast to our current, disastrous experience with the dregs of the Third World. That common cultural ethos consist primarily of Judeo-Christian traditions of rule of law, monotheism, democracy, individualism and natural rights.
Diversity does not make our country great, as Marchewa alleges and, in fact, it is bankrupting California as well as the emergency medical systems of many border states, where illegals obtain free medical care courtesy of the American taxpayers.
I do many productive things, but teaching skills to illegal immigrants, as she suggests, will never be one of them. I will leave such endeavors to the apologists for our immigration debacle.
Also, a May 24 letter from John Gaal of the Carpenters' Union added a disjointed commentary, attributing our efforts to a lack of knowledge or poor schooling, which he alleges brought "shame on the school system" that I attended. John Burroughs and Washington University taught me to use facts, evidence, logic and reason.
If Gaal would do likewise, he would find that the flood of illegal aliens across our southern border have severely damaged the unionized building trades in southern California, where that $6 an hour wage he decries has wreaked havoc on formerly middle-class households.
Earl P. Holt III St. Louis
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2003-06-26 15:27 | User Profile
How dare they waste time with their racist views? Sure, illegal aliens are breaking the law, but to lump a Mexican worker and the Taliban together is ridiculous. It's one thing to say we need tighter border control, but to insult a whole country's culture is totally offensive.
This is the typical response when there is no logical or rational reason for countering an argument. Call the anti-illegal immigration person, group, etc. a racist. Then provide the grudging admission...Sure there breaking the law but so what????
Earl Holt says, "Our open border with Mexico has become a conduit for drugs and unskilled workers who take jobs (for less pay) and force incomes to ratchet downward." He implies that all Mexicans are unskilled. How would he know? People are hiring them. No one is stopping him from applying for those same jobs.
Again specious argument. Holt could apply for "those jobs" however Holt cannot get one since he is a legal resident who would require pay and benefits, once an employer decides to "underemploy" an illegal for below scale wages they cannot and will not mix and match legal and illegal workers for obvious reasons.
Holt refers to the immigration of a century ago and the waves of Europeans, "with whom we share a common cultural ethos, rather than the dregs of the Third World, who have turned their own countries into cesspools and will do that to our country if we let them." That's something a scared and cowardly person would say.
The best of all. Like the previous statements this liberal, multi-cultural, open borders, defender of the downtrodden illegal alien, nowhere in any of the arguments refutes the veracity of the statement or opinion, they simply attack the speaker with "racist, cowardly, xenophobe, nativist, etc." labels. The fact that the mass migration of the last century is from third world countries and they ARE cesspools, is not countered nor can it be. Nor can they deny the fact that every city, without exception, which has become a haven for masses of illegal immigrants has soaring crime rates with increases in rape, homicide, pedophelia, robbery, and on and on and on.
Sad absolutely zeo logic. Yet people who want to stop the Mexification of this country for pure socio-economic reasons are villified when it is their arguments which make sense.
2003-06-26 19:45 | User Profile
Does he not realize that when the waves of Europeans came here they did not share a "common cultural ethos" with the indigenous inhabitants of this country that the Europeans took from them? Does he not realize that we unfairly acquired a huge chunk of the United States from Mexico?
That's my favorite comeback: whites did it to the Indians in 1700.
Doesn't that just destroy their own point: that if what whites did was so evil (and they all believe that), shouldn't this invasion be classified as evil too? Nope, the left has taught that the white invasion was evil, the dark invasion was good.
Nice consistent argument.
-J
2003-06-26 20:46 | User Profile
nowhere in any of the arguments refutes the veracity of the statement or opinion, they simply attack the speaker with "racist, cowardly, xenophobe, nativist, etc." labels. The fact that the mass migration of the last century is from third world countries and they ARE cesspools, is not countered nor can it be
This is very true, and no lemming can do better. They follow a religion, not reason. In general the opposition to WN and related ideologies have absolutely nothing logical with which to counter, hence their reliance on the lefts half-century old tradition of ad hominem attack. The left has ad hominem refined to a science.