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Thread ID: 7625 | Posts: 13 | Started: 2003-06-25
2003-06-25 23:16 | User Profile
[color=green]In a response to his comments regarding his feelings on Blacks, Bill White makes some very accurate observations about the current state of affairs between White and Black America. In a nutshell, the main problem with Blacks today is that they remain socio/economically dependent on Whites when they oughta be doing things for themselves. Until Blacks learn to be autonomous socially, politically, and economically, they will never be on even ground with Whites.[/color]
What I Think About Black People **An Answer To Questions About Recent Columns **
5/10/01 1:57:51 PM [u]Discuss this story in the forum[/u] Bill White
Commentary -- Commentary -- I had been planning for the past few days, ever since a read of Jan De Vries excellent ââ¬ÅHeroic Song and Heroic Legendââ¬Â alerted me to it, of the tradition of heroic and epic poetry and culture among the people of Africa. I had wanted to tie this in with some references that Evola makes to legendary ââ¬Åwhite kingdomsââ¬Â in Western Africa, and to some other material I had seen recently on the legendary kingdom of Prester John and its ties to rumored kingdoms in Africa.
I also received several emails today from people who want me to clarify what I think about black people after emailing to this list that column by Fred Reed. My intent, when selecting material like that, is to enlighten readers as to what material is out there, and to show the ââ¬Åother sideââ¬Â of some of the people you see in the papers. It has not escaped my notice that Reed is also a freemason, and that he displays Masonic symbols on his website. Personally, I find his style of writing, and his direct honesty on many matters, refreshing, though I canââ¬â¢t say I endorse his point of view. As to what I think of black people, that is a question Iââ¬â¢m happy to answer.
Personally I like working people, white, black and indifferent, and I like honest people, and often find that the two are the same thing. I donââ¬â¢t like people who prey on working people, whether ultra-rich or ultra-poor, and Iââ¬â¢ve seen enough drug addicts, rapists, robbers and other assorted losers in my life prey on the honest working class to have anything but contempt for them. Remarkably, I donââ¬â¢t associate robbing people for a living or smoking crack with being black ââ¬â Iââ¬â¢ve seen too many white people that do that crap, and been accosted in the street by ebonic-speaking white negroes too many times, to think that skin color per se dictates peculiar or ââ¬Åghettoââ¬Â like behavior.
What I believe is that too many black people but into a culture that has been fed to them by people who are not black, who are in power, and who manipulate the black community. This trash culture, which does not originates among blacks, has nevertheless become associated with them as if it were theirs. One can call it ââ¬Åghettoââ¬Â culture, ââ¬Åurbanââ¬Â culture, ââ¬Årapââ¬Â culture, whatever ââ¬â but one has to realize that despite the black front men, the black directors, the black actors, and the black musicians that appear on stage, behind the scenes, the people funding it, giving it ideological content, and developing the form in which it spreads, are not black people.
Many white people, particularly conservatives, donââ¬â¢t like to believe this. The reason is that believing this means asking the question ââ¬Åwho are the people feeding blacks this culture?ââ¬Â, and that question has an uncomfortable answer. After all, to be able to provide a whole culture from nearly nothing means power, and powerful people have a way of throwing their weight around.
Black people, and certainly all black people, have not believed in racial hatred against whites for all eternity. I would reference, for instance, the Aethiopia, an epic Greek poem that appears to have formed a template for the story of the Illiad (though the Illiad is superior as an artisitic work), in which Memnon, a king of Ethiopia, and a black man, sails to Troy to rescue the Achaens (Greeks) from the Trojans, who are dangerously close to defeating the Greek forces. Memnon served as the basis for the character of Homerââ¬â¢s Achilles, though it is true that the life Homer breathes into Achilles, and the story of Achilleââ¬â¢s mad wratg, is absent from Memnonââ¬â¢s story (due to the talents of the poet, not necessarily the character of Memon.)
De Vries, in his book, shows how other traditions of heroic poetry migrated into Africa from people who were driven South from their initial dwelling places on the Mediterranean shores. With them they brought the culture of Europe, including the idea of the heroic noble and his comitatus (as Tactitus described it), and the warrior ethic commonly associated with the Aryan peoples.
Similar, Evola tells of a colony of Atlantis founded on the shores of Western Africa, which may have transferred some of the ideals, and the bloodline, of the Indo-European people to the natives of that region.
What these things show is that the tradition which motivated Europeans to their success is not limited in scope to people of white skin. It is a tradition which can inspire anyone.
People ask me what I think is necessary to change the culture of the black community and the failure and the hatred that culture engenders. My recommendation is this:
Black people need to be autonomous. They need to develop economic, political and social structures that are not dependent on other racially homogenous communities. Until black people are autonomous, have developed a culture that allows for expression of their cultural soul, and are financially and politically independent of the rest of the world, they cannot deal with other communities as equals.
The first step in achieving this is driving the Democratic Party out of the black community ââ¬â at gunpoint, if possible. There is no question that the Democrats and their activists are the major source of racial hatred and racial division in this country today.
Following the Democrats out need to be the Communists, and then the entire posionous media-cultural industry that is based in New York and Southern California. An absolute rejection of lies sold to black people as ââ¬Åblackââ¬Â is necessary, followed by a recognition that other people, who have been more successful in life as a people, may have created institutions and ideologies, such as the idea of liberty which for a time was certainly realized by the white community in America, that when applied to the black community may realize equally good results.
I am not against any group of people. I hate white people with bandanas who threaten to rob me while intoxicated as much as I hate black people who do it, and I respect intelligent and politically dedicated black people as much I respect the same in white people.
I am against racism, and I am for the working class. And when I see a bunch of poor black people, manipulated by Democrats and Communists, running in the streets saying they hate cops and then taking poor white people who are as abused by the cops as they are and dragging them from their cars and beating them, those poor black people lose all respect in my eyes, and all cause to complain. They, in their rioting, become enemies of the working class.
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2003-06-25 23:56 | User Profile
Bill White of Overthrow.com, as quoted in a recent interview:
[color=red]"...skinheads themselves often imitate the criminal behavior of the blacks..."[/color]
Bill White of Overthrow.com isn't afraid to "name the skinhead" and does so in the quote above. Notice too that he states skinheads imitate the criminal acts of negroids, which they undoubtably do. And, he further claims, they do it "often".
More and more, white nationalists are coming forward to "name the skinhead", exposing their negroid mentality for what it is.
Let's all keep an eye on Bill White.
He knows what he's talking about.
Tom
2003-06-26 16:27 | User Profile
In my life I found that blacks with whom I worked had very conservative ideas as to family and societal order. They dislike with very good reasons black punks and criminals much more than many members of this board. I remember only a few who were filled with spite so that it warped their ability to talk, much less reason.
As many members have previously pointed out the national media have shaped the values of young blacks with their emphasis on perversion and indecency. This certainly is an indictment of Jewry. As long as Jews do not suffer the consequences of their despicable behavior and values, the entire country will suffer.
The deliberate dumbing down of America was accomplished through their auspices. The destruction of their hold on the media must be our number one priority. I have tried my damned best to show their lying and cowardice and have very little to show for it. I hope others have better success.
2003-06-27 07:34 | User Profile
*Originally posted by edward gibbon@Jun 26 2003, 10:27 * ** As many members have previously pointed out [u]the national media have shaped the values of young blacks with their emphasis on perversion and indecency.[/u] This certainly is an indictment of Jewry. As long as Jews do not suffer the consequences of their despicable behavior and values, the entire country will suffer. **
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[SIZE=2]"Yo dawg...I mean yo' honor...me and my brutha didn't mean to kill dem [url=http://www.wichita-massacre.com/]white people[/url], it wuz dat damn jew-controlled national media dat made us do it!"[/SIZE] :rolleyes:
2003-06-27 07:41 | User Profile
*Originally posted by kminta@Jun 25 2003, 17:16 * ** Until Blacks learn to be autonomous socially, politically, and economically, they will never be on even ground with Whites. **
And let me guess, the way to achieve this is--more [url=http://www.adversity.net/favormor.htm]gubbiment programs[/url]! <_<
[SIZE=1]ps: I'd like to add "geographically" to that list.[/SIZE]
2003-06-27 11:30 | User Profile
**Personally I like working people, white, black and indifferent, and I like honest people, and often find that the two are the same thing. I donââ¬â¢t like people who prey on working people, whether ultra-rich or ultra-poor, and Iââ¬â¢ve seen enough drug addicts, rapists, robbers and other assorted losers in my life prey on the honest working class to have anything but contempt for them. **
Well put. My sentiments exactly.
Heck, I sure don't hate blacks or any other race for that matter. Most of the WN's that I know don't, either. In fact, I wish blacks very well.
That notwithstanding, the simple and unavoidable fact is that whites and blacks differ from each other so much in their average talents and proclivities that they will never be able to share the same territory in peace. So long as we don't get this no-brainer concept through our glacier-thick skulls, we'll continue in our endless cycle of white oppression leads to black martyrdom leads to white guilt leads to black failure and resentment leads to more white guilt leads to black crime and ghetto culture and yadda yadda yadda ad nauseum. I'm sick of the whole thing.
I have a friend who's a professional marriage counselor, whom I take a perverse pleasure in shocking with my views on race. I asked him recently if he was confronted with a marriage that was as filled with the vice, abuse, exploitation, guilt and recriminations and all the sick baggage that came with it as are black-white relations in the States, whether he wouldn't AT LEAST CONSIDER divorce as an option.
The short answer is that of course he would see divorce as an option, and indeed he'd probably counsel divorce and fast, but when it comes to this race thing he's all invested in MLK's nightmare passing as a SWEET DREAM OF BRUTHAHOOD. When it comes to the obvious sickness of our society's race relations (he lives near Chicago) he's lost in a media stupor where Bill Cosby's Dr. Huxtable is smiling his love for all, despite the fact that he fears walking out of his office located in the Loop at night for fear of the young bloods who might do him wrong.
Speaking of Chicago, go to the University of Chicago campus sometime. It's an Island of Ivy League class in a sea of black failure, crime and despair. The campus police are really SWAT troopers. I've walked around that campus with this same friend - why can't he see it? Why are my people so blind?
But, for whatever reasons, I've had a bellyfull of it. I'm sick unto death of the whole diseased conversation.
We need to separate on as good terms as possible, which all things considered might well be the best of terms. But even then, I can live with whatever the consequences.
I need to secure the existence of my people and a future for white children. That means a white country without blacks, may a Merciful God rain His Blessings down upon them wherever they may be. But be that as it may, I need my own country, I deserve my own country, and I will have my own country, as the good Malcolm X put it, "by any means necessary."
Walter
2003-06-27 13:44 | User Profile
I've worked with some black people who were very hard working men and women, who were also very funny (humorous) too, but when I was in the union years ago, the blacks were lazy piles of :dung: and probably still are to this day. I ended up leaving the union. I'm worlds better off now working in the private sector.
I think that Bill White is correct when he states that blacks have not believed in racial hatred for eternity. Personally, I don't believe that blacks are inherently hateful people. They do have inherent destructive and idiotic behavior but blacks were/are clearly TAUGHT to hate. Who taught them? I'd say that blacks, as a group, have only hated and killed White people for about 40 or so years now........ And WHY is that???????
The black pathology is a symptom of a much deadlier disease that we're faced with.
If it was left up to Whites and Blacks only, I'd think there'd be a peaceful and respectful seperate but equal country.
2003-06-27 14:30 | User Profile
*Originally posted by xmetalhead@Jun 27 2003, 08:44 * ** [.......]
Personally, I don't believe that blacks are inherently hateful people. They do have inherent destructive and idiotic behavior but blacks were/are clearly TAUGHT to hate. Who taught them? I'd say that blacks, as a group, have only hated and killed White people for about 40 or so years now........ And WHY is that???????
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Say What???? :o
[color=blue]"I'd say that blacks, as a group, have only hated and killed White people for about 40 or so years now........"[/color]
The beast known as Negro have killed, raped and maimed Whites for Hundreds of years. Like all animals - negroes included, they can be trained to perform tasks and services. However, negroes are well known for turning on the benefactors, just as other curs do. When our Founding Fathers drew up the constitution for the foundations of our nation, the value of a negra was discussed and negroes were determined to be worth 3/5ths of a Human Being. The VAST Intelligence of this decision allowed our country to remain stable up until the 1850's. Later, during the war of Northern Aggression, negra's were allowed to run rampant across the South in an effort to destroy the Southern will to survive. The inherent depravety of the animal negro was made obvious by negro troops ( Mass. 54th and 55th, for examples ) fanning out across the counrtryside and upon encountering Southern homes that a mother and children alone occupied, proceeded to hang the children upside down in trees, alive, while they raped the mother in view of the children. The children were either killed ( beaten to death ) after the negro's act of bestial lust, or left to hang suspended untill death.
This went unpunished for the most part due to the fact that the fathers and husbands were fighting for the South.
This became manifest again during the period known as, "Reconstruction". As Federal authorities stripped Southern states of their authority, Federal Military Districts took the place of Civilized government and negroes were allowed to run rampant across the countryside again, to rape, murder and terrorize whites, JUST LIKE WE SEE TODAY! :angry:
As during that time, Whites became fearful until a time arose that action became necessary. There was an organization that came into being at the time and this helped restore civility and order to local government and protection for White society.
Right now, we are in the time where White people are fearful, and this gives rise to heroes and warriors. Groups are rising as called upon by God to fulfill duties to stand again for God, Race and Nation. When jews , the children of Satan, influence & control our nation's government, and negroes and other non-whites are allowed to mock and destroy Western civilized society, White Christians feel the Godly calling to stand in defense of home, children and race.
That is why groups like The Ku Klux Klan still exist. :D
Negroes and other non-whites have attacked Whites for centuries, and they are not going to stop anytime soon. :blink:
2003-06-27 14:45 | User Profile
Point well taken Golfball. I'm not going soft on blacks. They are and always were savages BUT back in the day (before the '60's and back) they were kept in place and Whites still had rights to kick ass where ass needed to be kicked. As there were always many bad apples in the black race for centuries past, I think that since the 60's black men, women and children have been loosed of holding back any hatred, and actually taught and programmed, to hate Whites passionately without fear of reprisals from Whites. Is that the workings of blacks or another sinister group?
2003-06-27 14:55 | User Profile
Yes, and it becoming obvious that our race and Southern states are undergoing a most evil form of RECONSTRUCTION that has ever been devised by Jews and their supporters.
We once had full support of the Southern churches, now and for the past few decades, they are turning against a Holy God of Segregation. These actions will bring destruction to our people. :(
God destroys and burns the trash. ( Racemixers, Homosexuals, Pedophiles, Jews, Integrators, multiculturalists, apostate churches,....etc..etc. )
It can be a good thing though. This can also be seen as a culling out / sifting out process that will benefit future generations of Whites. Kind of like letting all of the bad go one direction and see how the good make an effort to succeed and seperate themselves from the bad and damaged. B)
2003-06-27 14:55 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Jun 27 2003, 07:30 * ** Speaking of Chicago, go to the University of Chicago campus sometime. It's an Island of Ivy League class in a sea of black failure, crime and despair. The campus police are really SWAT troopers. I've walked around that campus with this same friend - why can't he see it? Why are my people so blind?
But, for whatever reasons, I've had a bellyfull of it. I'm sick unto death of the whole diseased conversation.
**
The conversation has been deliberately poisoned, especially in the educational arena. Those undergrads at Chicago probably walk around full of resentment at the Nazi storm trooper cops, oblivious to the probable reality that those troopers are all that is holding back the dark hordes. Who taught them- and your friend- this attitude, and the ignorance needed to support it?
A friend sent me a cartoon from my hometown paper; this friend teaches high school language classes and geography. Apparently the cartoon came from a weekly series put out by a Virginia educational association receiving funding from the state; it is intended for use by students and teachers in the class. This cartoon depicted the Nat Turner rebellion as a glorious uprising, and glossed over the details of women raped and killed, children murdered, men axed in their beds. Turner was depicted as a heroic martyr. The series continually reinvents and interprets historic events, with most of the strips having a multicultural angle.
This propaganda and indoctrination is starting at increasingly younger ages- we have seen kids shows aimed at the 2-4 age group having obvious pro-gay themes, for instance. Our little ones are bombarded with constant, obligatory endorsements of the multiculturalist agenda.
What chance do we have when we allow our kids to be brainwashed? It will be interesting to see whether this young generation will be able to shake off the lies, or whether the few remaining pro-white and pro-western families in this country will soon face the same fate as Nat Turner's victims. The only way to avoid this end is to counter this flood of propaganda aimed at our kids.
Like many parents we have our own methods of monitoring and countering this influence. I'm interested in hearing other ideas.
2003-06-27 18:27 | User Profile
It is true that skinheads often imitate black gansta types, and that this is often to be despised. However, it also needs to be recognized that there is something of an 'arms-race' going on in certain neigborhoods, a move toward the lowest common denominator of extreme violence and attitude. In other words, white sometime imitate black violence and in-civility because doing otherwise would mean surrendering to black aggression.
2003-06-27 18:41 | User Profile
This cartoon depicted the Nat Turner rebellion as a glorious uprising, and glossed over the details of women raped and killed, children murdered, men axed in their beds. Turner was depicted as a heroic martyr.
Yes, he did all that. He also surrendered w/o a fight and begged for his life in a most craven and ignominious manner when he finally encountered a group of armed white men.