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mwdallas [OP]

2003-06-24 01:36 | User Profile

That Stale Salon Smear: Tancredo Speaks By Peter Brimelow

Recently, I gave the liberal webzine Salon.com and its enforcer Max Blumenthal a good boot for their stale smear of the immigration reform movement in general and VDARE.COM in particular.

There’s a convention in the trade that most publications will allow other journalists to respond when they have been attacked. But I didn’t bother sending a Letter To Salon.com's Editor because I know from experience that no convention, rule or scruple applies when immigration enthusiasts are reacting to criticism.

Thank God for the internet!

However, Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO), perhaps the most prominent national immigration reform leader, did write. And this week, Salon.com finally published his letter. (Click here and do a lot of scrolling down. Or read it at the end of this article!)

Some VDARE.COM readers expressed concern that Blumenthal quoted Tancredo apparently distancing himself from us. I said at the time that Blumenthal’s word was not worth the paper it was written on – and, indeed, it now materializes that Tancredo was understandably baffled at being asked about the genesis of the name “VDARE.” (Click here for our explanation. To those readers who are asking for a snappier explanation: I’m writing, I’m writing!)

It’s significant, of course, that Blumenthal would regard as controversial the fact that VDARE.COM is named after the first English child born in the New World – and sadly indicative of the ethnic animosity that motivates so much immigration enthusiasm.

The rest of the article:

[url=http://www.vdare.com/pb/salon_smear.htm]http://www.vdare.com/pb/salon_smear.htm[/url]

The article links to the prior VDare piece, which linked to MacDonald's discussion of the Jewish role in setting immigration policy:

[url=http://www.vdare.com/misc/white_without_honor.htm]http://www.vdare.com/misc/white_without_honor.htm[/url]

Ragnar

2003-06-24 02:32 | User Profile

Sometimes it's like watching those old newsreels of flowers blooming in slo-mo. Yes, it's clear what he's talking about to all .002 of the population but at the rate the rest of the population is catching up, it may not really matter. Being optimistic can be a chore.

This is the better part: If the major media decides to smear Brimelow as an "anti-semite" and plaster his "gaffe" all over the country, most of your fellow whites will buy it unconditionally.

But even the slo-mo flowers finally opened up all the way. :)

Lewis Wetzel

2003-06-24 03:06 | User Profile

**Mark Krikorian opened the discussion period by suggesting that Steinlight was guilty of ‘triangulation’ and asking if immigration could be analyzed from the point of view of the Jewish community, why could not WASPs do the same? Steinlight did not appear to have an answer to Krikorian’s point. Initially he tried to escape by accusing Buchanan and Brimelow of dishonestly hiding their ethnic interests. When at length brought to face his published denunciation of their concerns, hidden or otherwise, he announced: “Not all identity politics are created equal”. **

Wow - that vein in my forehead really throbs when I'm enraged!

N.B. Forrest

2003-06-25 01:20 | User Profile

When at length brought to face his published denunciation of their concerns, hidden or otherwise, he announced: “Not all identity politics are created equal”.

Stinking lump of jew filth.......

Walter Yannis

2003-06-25 07:10 | User Profile

Yeah, that link to the review of the Stephen Stienlight article really floored me.

Brimelow nearly stated bluntly that "the emotional force behind the drive for coloured immigration to the United States is visceral Jewish fear and hatred of people who look like Nazi Stormtroopers and Russian Cassocks.

Man. I think I'll send him another $100. I promised myself that I'd send VDARE $100 everytime they venture close to THE QUESTION.

I for one don't think it's time yet for VDARE or others to abandon the figleaf of codespeak. That time is coming, and when it does VDARE will have laid a good deal of the rhetorical groundwork.

Mr. Brimelow, if you read this, please accept my humble thanks and expect the check in the mail.

Walter

mwdallas

2003-07-03 01:27 | User Profile

Walter --

I think this is exactly how it should be done, and this is why criticism of Francis -- though it often goes too far -- is justified to some degree. Retain plausible deniability -- link to something that includes a link to the unvarnished truth -- but point the curious in the right direction. Place them on a path that leads to the truth, but do not scare people with a truth they are not ready to hear. Brimelow has achieved the perfect balance here.