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Thread ID: 7464 | Posts: 47 | Started: 2003-06-18
2003-06-18 20:24 | User Profile
Check it out:
[url=http://www.vnnforum.com/]http://www.vnnforum.com/[/url]
2003-06-18 20:27 | User Profile
I wonder if we'll see Franco on there reminding everyone to name the Jew.
2003-06-18 20:32 | User Profile
Alright!! :th: :rock:
VBulletin software, as well, which means they have some money behind it.
2003-06-18 20:33 | User Profile
What kind of smileys do they have? I've been asking TD to find a hook-nose.
2003-06-18 20:34 | User Profile
*Originally posted by madrussian@Jun 18 2003, 15:33 * ** What kind of smileys do they have? I've been asking TD to find a hook-nose. **
I thought you were making one?! :blink:
2003-06-18 20:38 | User Profile
Edana -- of course :D :D
2003-06-18 20:48 | User Profile
[color=red]THE VNN PEOPLE STILL LOOK A BIT FUSSY.[/color]
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:jest: :jest: :jest: :jest:
2003-06-18 20:57 | User Profile
I signed up, could be interesting.
2003-06-18 20:57 | User Profile
Faust:
*DO Not*... Link to other forums... Post in topics who's last post is more than two weeks ago... Use red lettering... Reply to posts unless you have something worthwhile to say... Use grossly improper grammar****
That grammar warning is soooooooo Prussian and so Alex. I love it.
2003-06-18 21:00 | User Profile
Originally posted by seq@Jun 18 2003, 13:57 * ** Faust: DO Not*... Link to other forums... Post in topics who's last post is more than two weeks ago... Use red lettering... Reply to posts unless you have something worthwhile to say... Use grossly improper grammar****
That grammar warning is soooooooo Prussian and so Alex. I love it. **
What about itz? :lol:
2003-06-18 21:03 | User Profile
I signed up at VNN. My moniker will be "Ben Franklin" over there. Needed something new. Do they allow avatars on the VNN Forum? I hope so!
2003-06-18 21:16 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Franco@Jun 18 2003, 14:38 * ** Edana -- of course :D :D **
HOORAY!! :gun: :gun: :gun:
2003-06-18 21:16 | User Profile
There goes the OD forum.
2003-06-18 21:53 | User Profile
** Cracker of the Whip wrote:
There goes the OD forum. **
Nah. OD will keep its paleo core.
If anything, the VNN BB will take some pressure off of OD, by taking any focus off of them [by/from Joos]...
2003-06-18 21:57 | User Profile
I hope you're right Franco I was starting to like this place.
2003-06-18 22:04 | User Profile
Dadaism for Nationalists?
"Suggestions Our users ake us who we are. Tell us what you want."
Now, should I ake them? Or rather tell them who I want them to be? :blink:
2003-06-18 22:16 | User Profile
I don't see any reason to think that the VNN forum will have any impact upon this one. While VNN does have some good material and capable people it also has plenty of ADL posterboys of what's wrong with primate racism. I doubt that it will become a worth while forum.
2003-06-18 22:27 | User Profile
*Originally posted by triskelion@Jun 18 2003, 16:16 * ** I don't see any reason to think that the VNN forum will have any impact upon this one. While VNN does have some good material and capable people it also has plenty of ADL posterboys of what's wrong with primate racism. I doubt that it will become a worth while forum. **
I, too, have a hunch they will not be a brain drain. :)
But, in a sense, they are already worthwhile: Just reading their regulations gives me an educated guess at how they would govern. To paraphrase:
"The functionaries and party hacks reserve to themselves the right to shoot, exile, harass or imprison anybody for any reason." :hit:
2003-06-18 22:33 | User Profile
*Originally posted by triskelion@Jun 18 2003, 18:16 * ** I don't see any reason to think that the VNN forum will have any impact upon this one. While VNN does have some good material and capable people it also has plenty of ADL posterboys of what's wrong with primate racism. I doubt that it will become a worth while forum. **
I agree with you--it's going to likely be a cross between Stormfront and the old WCOTC Creativity Forum. IOW, a madhouse, a circus, and an embarrassment.
I noticed, as I write this post, that our friend Mark Konrad signed up as the newest member over there. Many ODers will remember that Konrad wrote that "lovely" letter into the VNN Letters section trashing OD and the people here, accusing us of being useless intellectuals who must have always gotten our books dumped by other kids in school. All I can say is: what a hypocrite. He's now quickly signed up over at that forum, and what's he going to do, have a go-nowhere, "interesting conversation" like he accuses us of doing? :lol:
2003-06-18 22:50 | User Profile
Just another arena to argue - and possibly iron things out. Have to look on the bright side - somehow. There aren't too many bright spots at the moment, so I try to keep my hopes up.
2003-06-18 23:19 | User Profile
It has some potential to be good. It also has some potential to be "all jews, all the time" which will get old after a while, even if it is information that we all need to get out there.
2003-06-19 02:07 | User Profile
AntiYuppie
I think you are Right.
** I doubt this forum will be hurt much by the existence of a VNN forum. After all, Stormfront's forum has been around much longer than either OD or VNN, and they have only benefited us.**
I do wonder why VNN has a "no links to other forums" rule? People here regularly link to various other forums in their posts. The same is true over at Stormfront. As far as I know, VNN is the only forum with such an odd policy.
Very true. I and other members of this Forum have posted links to "Free Republic" and other Forums in a good number of threads. I like to see what those crazy Freepers are up to. It is often a good way to see Foolishness of the Neocon Goons and Sheep first hand.[color=red]ONE CAN HOPE THEY ARE NOT OVERLY FUSSY[/color] about thier regulations.
2003-06-19 18:16 | User Profile
I'm not sure it's such a hot idea. With the Letters section, there's a selection process that weeds out some of the more poorly-written dreck. With a message board, any braindead goober can put his 2 cents in.
:mellow:
2003-06-19 18:24 | User Profile
The letters section of VNN is OK, but I wish he wouldn't post entire articles there. I'd prefer a paragraph intro then a link. That would make it easier to scroll down.
2003-06-21 01:19 | User Profile
Looks like they had some trouble already. The board was down for close to 24 hours. It's back up now, starting fresh again.
2003-06-21 03:59 | User Profile
I signed up. It doesn't look like there will be anything productive going on. Perhaps a few intersting articles will make it.
By Rumblestrip- " It also has some potential to be "all jews, all the time" which will get old after a while, even if it is information that we all need to get out there."
Sounds like our government.
2003-07-07 05:18 | User Profile
VNN forum is growing at an amazing rate, already 199 members. They will soon surpass OD. I guess since they and Stormfront allow the freak elements (KKK, Neo-Nazis, and Skinheads) to join up and show off their iconographies and language, they will attract more people?
Regards,
Ares
2003-07-07 05:32 | User Profile
I think what may separate OD from Stormfront and VNN is that this forum will attract elites and intellectuals, while the other ones will be for average to underclass Whites. And since elites and intellectuals only make up a very small percentage of the whole White race, the membership in this forum will represent that percentage. Actually, I think the American Renaissance list is even more elite and intellectual than OD, the posts there are a lot more empirical; and since the ultra elite and intellectual make up an even smaller percentage of the White race, the American Renaissance list should theoretically have even less members than OD.
Regards,
Ares
2003-07-07 05:55 | User Profile
"Kosher racialists" indeed are a small and ridiculous group. Calling them an intellectual elite? Nigga, please. :dung:
2003-07-07 21:20 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Ares@Jul 7 2003, 01:32 * ** I think what may separate OD from Stormfront and VNN is that this forum will attract elites and intellectuals, while the other ones will be for average to underclass Whites. And since elites and intellectuals only make up a very small percentage of the whole White race, the membership in this forum will represent that percentage. Actually, I think the American Renaissance list is even more elite and intellectual than OD, the posts there are a lot more empirical; and since the ultra elite and intellectual make up an even smaller percentage of the White race, the American Renaissance list should theoretically have even less members than OD.
Regards,
Ares **
Bzzzt. You were doing fine until you brought American Renaissance into it. American Renaissance has proven to be a false flag operation, and we've had several threads here at OD that analyze some of the Amren-list posts and expose the flaws inherent in that organization.
Forget about AR. OD is where the good stuff is.
2003-07-07 21:43 | User Profile
**Forget about AR. OD is where the good stuff is. **
Which is why I so enjoy lurking here :D
I do remember NSNet once upon a time. Yes, I was involved somewhat with all that Covington craziness at the margins. Regardless of how I and most feel about him, he was a first-rate writer, but to this day, I just wonder what desk in DC he reported to.
2003-07-12 23:04 | User Profile
A bump to remind all the Nazis, anti-God atheists, Christian Identity cultists, eugenicists, racial extremists and the like that they have a new home.
:th:
2003-07-13 00:52 | User Profile
Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Jul 12 2003, 16:04 * *A bump to remind all the Nazis, anti-God atheists, Christian Identity cultists, eugenicists, racial extremists and the like that they have a new home.
:th:**
You mean OD, right? :sm:
2003-07-13 01:04 | User Profile
Tex is giving out hints...
2003-07-13 02:12 | User Profile
This place would be boring if we left, and the only people left were Tex, and a few Jesus-freaks.
2003-07-13 08:04 | User Profile
*Originally posted by ÃÅbeltäter@Jul 12 2003, 21:12 * ** This place would be boring if we left, and the only people left were Tex, and a few Jesus-freaks. **
One wonders how we ever managed before you arrived 12 days ago, tater.
2003-07-13 08:13 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Franco@Jul 12 2003, 20:04 * ** Tex is giving out hints... **
Yes I am, Franco. To elevate the discourse here consistent with the board guidelines. I've been too lax and that is my fault, and the tenor of debate here has suffered accordingly. So much so that even I don't find much of worth visiting here.
As we can see here on this thread, other sites deal comfortably in the vulgar and profane. I don't want it here on OD and I am perfectly willing to let OD rise or fall with that standard.
2003-07-13 16:56 | User Profile
Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Jul 12 2003, 17:04 * *A bump to remind all the Nazis, anti-God atheists, Christian Identity cultists, eugenicists, racial extremists and the like that they have a new home.
:th:**
It seems whatever website a moderate establishes there is always trouble to the right. Jim Robinson banished everyone to the right of neo-cons which included you, and now you find yourself psychologically in the same boat. Since you are paying the bills, and since it is such a small website, why don't you just selectively blow a few heads off. Ultimately, if you do not like coming to your own website you will eventually close it down anyway. Just my opinion.
2003-07-13 23:18 | User Profile
Well, in my defense, the harshest names I have used are "sheenie" and "Zhid" and similar terms.
I remind Tex that paleo ideology is kin to WN ideology, about 75% of it at least.
2003-07-13 23:34 | User Profile
That 10% of the armband crowd which isn't on Ashcroft or Foxman's payroll; certifiably psychotic or merely fetishistic ought to recall that politics is The Art of the Possible. Walling oneself into an ideological ghetto is fine for website debates, but our generation MUST reclaim the initiative in the real world!
More to the point, Mr. Tex, the Paleo worldview resonates with super-majorities on several key issues. 90% of Americans want Illegal Aliens halted; 85% are opposed to racial quotas; 80% are in favor of ending ALL foreign aid; 80% oppose further incursions on gun rights and 75% want to halt favoring the "Business Community" tactic of sending American industries and jobs to the Third World.
When these super-majorities have their collective will thwarted by the Jewish/deracinated WASP Plutocracy we have an enormously fertile field to sow.
2003-07-14 01:08 | User Profile
Originally posted by wintermute@Jul 13 2003, 16:32 * ** This is too flattering by half. Robinson started out as a Bilderberg ranter/ Clinton hater who now enforces a strict ideological litmus test that explicity serves Jewish interests (or RINO interests, which amount to the same thing). At no time did he occupy what anyone* could call "moderate" ground.
**
It is hard to blame Robinson: He is wheel chair bound. He has a popular website. He strikes pay-dirt with the voluntary donations coming into his fair usage news forum, and then problems start with lawsuits from the Jewish media, at the same time intense flame wars break out between Jewish conservatives and paleo-cons. Large payments usually come with conditions attached. Large payments from Jews to Gentiles always come with conditions attached. I can just here them whining to him, along with the $500 check, about all the anti-Semites running wild on Freerepublic. An anti-Semite being anyone they don't like. When he starts favoring the Pets his problems go away, even the lawsuits. Perhaps he thinks Yahweh favors him. Perhaps he is right. I don't respect sell outs, but I can't really blame him either, after all it can't be easy being crippled, and he was probably never semitically aware to begin with. Bet he is now though.
2003-07-14 01:15 | User Profile
**Nothing like a gust of fresh Aryan air.... **
...more like a gust of fresh anal air, in your case.
**Ultimately, if you do not like coming to your own website you will eventually close it down anyway. Just my opinion. **
Shades of His Canniness, who 'never knew' what went on upon his own message board. Tex has been doing more of a slow burn, though, a la Jimmy Finlayson, or Edgar Kennedy, watching Stan and Ollie inadvertantly destroying his place of business.
Enemies of this type of site are overjoyed reading such things. What they'll leave for you to find out on your own, though, TD, is that even should you close this site and repudiate every word to ever appear on it, they will be hung round your neck like an anchor anyway. You're on the Enemies List forever now, whether you kick or you stick. ZOG runs a closed shop - they're not interested in converts, only compliance.
2003-07-14 02:13 | User Profile
Wintermute,
I never detested Robinson like I did some of the posters on the site, like for instance Veronica or Thinkin' Gal. From Robinson's point of view, he did not sell out his country. As you said in your earlier post: Robinson started out as a Bilderberg ranter/ Clinton hater who now enforces a strict ideological litmus test that explicitly serves Jewish interests . He hasn't sold us out because he was never in our camp to begin with. Now take William F Buckley, *there * is a sell out. Robinson comes along and hacks out a website from his wheel chair, and it develops into a thing that not only pays him money, but buys him a new car. He is not semitically aware, is clueless probably, as I myself was three or four years ago. He has this thing going that pays the bills and you think he is required to sink it for reasons of ideology that he himself doesn't believe in? I don't think that is reasonable. It doesn't matter whether Jim Robinson is a patriot or not. He is just one man amongst many. So far as him being crippled: there is nothing more pertinent than one's physical condition when it comes to fighting.
2003-07-14 03:08 | User Profile
Originally posted by wintermute@Jul 13 2003, 19:44 * *[The Tetragrammaton has no permanent allies, only interests. You'll note how quickly it turned on its pets when it thought the Soviet Union was a done deal. **
I don't think so. I hold to the classical view that the so-called Tetragrammaton has no existence separate from the Pets. It didn't turn on the Pets, Russia did. Yahweh claims to be a jealous god, not the only god, and from time to time other nationalities, i.e. gods, knock the living bejeezus out of him. If you want to look at it that way anyway .
2003-07-14 08:57 | User Profile
Originally posted by Bardamu@Jul 13 2003, 11:56 * *It seems whatever website a moderate establishes there is always trouble to the right. **
I don't think I have problems with those to my Right, if indeed there is any ground to stand on there.
Jim Robinson banished everyone to the right of neo-cons which included you, and now you find yourself psychologically in the same boat.
Jim Robinson purged ideologically. I will purge based on character. That, to me, makes all the difference.
Since you are paying the bills, and since it is such a small website, why don't you just selectively blow a few heads off.
Because my ethics would deem that action unethical. It is quite simple really. There exists a standard. One either accepts it and lets it guide their conduct or one rejects it and therefore must accept the consequences of that action. You can fault me for recent lax enforcement and as I've stated, I believe that is valid. I only hope some grace can be offered with that criticism coupled with the knowledge that I have a real life with real responsibilities and cannot spend every waking hour policing things here.
2003-07-14 09:09 | User Profile
Originally posted by il ragno@Jul 13 2003, 20:15 * ** Enemies of this type of site are overjoyed reading such things. What they'll leave for you to find out on your own, though, TD, is that even should you close this site and repudiate every word to ever appear on it, they will be hung round your neck like an anchor anyway*. You're on the Enemies List forever now, whether you kick or you stick. ZOG runs a closed shop - they're not interested in converts, only compliance. **
Let me make it clear, IR. I don't edit out of any concern for approval of outside interests. With the possible exception to advocacy of violence.
The guidelines reflect my personal morality and standards. Nothing more and nothing less. One may then say that others' opinion of me directs my personal morality. All I can say to that is that they don't know me very well. None of the standards that guide my life have been so easily arrived at. I've always despised being put into a box. There's no room in there.
2003-07-14 12:14 | User Profile
**Let me make it clear, IR. I don't edit out of any concern for approval of outside interests. **
I never doubted it. But that has nothing to do with what I said, either. Heck, they still got their knives out for Jesus 1970 years on; you'd better know they ain't cutting any of us any slack, whether or not any 'change of heart' is sincere or strategic.