← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · Brian J. Bucher
Thread ID: 7365 | Posts: 9 | Started: 2003-06-15
2003-06-15 12:20 | User Profile
:angry: May the following serve as a refutation to Mr. Rennick: For some time I have sat back and watched the National Alliance be mercilessly assailed. The Southern Pious Lie Center, Bill White, and now even the foul mouthed illiterates at the "Vonbluvens Show". Of course WN has it's share of misfits. There are whackos aplenty in every walk of life. The trash talk and accusations of Rennick and his ilk only serve to further the agenda of the culture distorters. It is a shame that a decent organization like the National Alliance is subjected to this barrage of mudslinging. As for The funding of Mr. Doles defence, I have seen evidence of the fundraising campaign plastered all over every site the National Alliance is involved with. Mr. Doles made an unfortunate and tragic mistake. It may end up costing him. That is no reason not to support the man. I am sure that the National Alliance leadership is making tactical decisions in regard to Mr. Doles' defense.That is afterall, their job. My advice to Mr. Rennick or Mr. Kendall or whomever is to end his game. Some of us are too awake to allow infiltration. Oh, and by the way I don't have any tattoos. I am a father as well, and I sometimes listen to hatecore. It's great for blowing off steam. Try it sometime.
2003-06-15 17:50 | User Profile
[SIZE=3]ILLOGIC 101[/SIZE]
Mr. Bucher: The primary reason why the National Alliance has come under simultaneous attack from Jews, leftists, rightists, multiculturalists, and white nationalists is largely due to the deception, hypocrisy, and greed that the leadership of that organization has exemplified over a very long period of time. People from all political sides of the fence now see that - even former allies and supporters of the National Alliance. Something is rotten in Denmark, as the old saying goes - and the stench has now reached Hillsboro, West Virginia.
But allow me to respond to a few of your comments:
You said:
[color=red]"...and now even the foul mouthed illiterates at the "Vonbluvens Show"." [/color]
Well, I must agree with you here - the two fun-loving jokers who host "The Von Bluvens Show" are indeed foul-mouthed as one can be. Still, I can't help but wonder if you (like so many others here) support Vanguard News Network - which is far more foul-mouthed than that show, albeit in print rather than audio. Could it be that you "excuse" VNN's incessant four-letter-word filth because they support The National Alliance - and "The Von Bluvens Show" does not? Or, to put it another way, are you now condemning "The Von Bluvens Show" as "foul-mouthed" only because they broadcast unfavorable (though true) remarks about The National Alliance? Had they not, would you have come on this forum and condemned "The Von Bluvens Show" as "foul-mouthed"anyway?
Something tells me that you wouldn't have....
You said:
[color=red]"It is a shame that a decent organization like the National Alliance..." [/color]
Mr. Blucher, I realize that this may well be impossible for you, but I really do hope you can give me an honest answer to this question: As a father (I'm one too), and as an individual concerned about preserving white America, do you honestly believe it is wise for the National Alliance to sell hatecore music to our young white youth with titles featuring such words as: Hate - Murder - Death - Nigger - Spic - Explosion - and Terrorism? Now, the usual response I get to this question is, "Hey man, black rap lyrics are just as bad!" Well, okay, I can't argue with that. Still, black rap music doesn't pretend to be anything but what it is - filth - and most decent white Americans know it. Secondly, black rap doesn't have a political organization or agenda motivating it, so it doesn't really matter how bad their lyrics are. But that is not the case with the National Alliance, which is an organization (so they claim, at least) trying to convince millions of white Americans to "save their race" and "make America great again". If so, do you Mr. Blucher believe it is a wise policy to sell merchandise bearing such words as "terrorism" on the label? Or am I the only white nationalist around that thinks this is an absolutely crazy idea?
Well, moving on....
Regarding another comment of yours, I am now forced to question your logic - or lack thereof.
You said:
[color=red]"Oh, and by the way I don't have any tattoos. I am a father as well, and I sometimes listen to hatecore...." [/color]
Really Mr. Blucher, I fail to see how you "lacking tattoos" or "being a father" equates to hatecore music somehow being "legitimate" because of those two facts.
Here, let me show you why I think your reasoning is suspect.
A: I don't have Neo-Nazi tattoos B: I'm a father. C: I like hard-core porn. D: Therefore, hard-core porn is "okay".
Or....
A: I don't have Neo-Nazi tattoos B: I'm a father. C: I like picking my nose and eating the boogers. D: Therefore, picking my nose and eating the boogers is "okay".
This kind of "logic" is false, since the goodness of one thing (being a father) is being used by you to imply that hatecore music too must be "good", if you -"as a father" listen to it.
It doesn't work that way, Mr. Blucher. Hatecore music is filth by any commonly accepted standard, except, of course, by the standards of Neo-Nazi skinheads - whom are filth themselves.
Well, since you seem to like Mr. Strom's merchandise and see nothing wrong with it, be my guest and buy a copy of "Vaginal Jesus" for your son or daughter. I'm sure they'll thank you for it one day.
Tom AKA Ward Kendall Harold Covington & Various Jews Depending On Whose Talking
2003-06-15 17:58 | User Profile
Anti-Yuppie said:
[color=red]"Why is it that whenever I read your posts I feel like I'm back in the Fourth Grade?"[/color]
Ummmm....because you never got past it, perhaps?
2003-06-15 23:57 | User Profile
Yes, OD now has a smarmy new troll to replace rbanned.
AntiYuppie is right. Rennick's posts do have that fourth grade feel. In writing style and transparency of intent.
Which organization will he be trying to get us to send money to? You know the recommendations from TR will be coming soon. Maybe we should start a poll.
2003-06-16 01:47 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Roger Bannister@Jun 15 2003, 17:57 * ** Which organization will he be trying to get us to send money to? You know the recommendations from TR will be coming soon. Maybe we should start a poll. **
Judging from his posts, I'm guessing something like "The Gay Jewish White Power Skinhead Tattoo Lovers Organization" :D
2003-06-16 02:24 | User Profile
Did Mr. Rennick ever answer my question: 'why does he never name the taproot that is killing the West: Jews?'
If he did in fact answer, I did not see it. If he answered, may he direct me to his answer? If he did not answer, may he please do so here, now, with no dodging or deflecting the issue, either. Just forward and direct, with no mention of 'tattooed neo-Nazis,' because that is not the issue.
2003-06-16 06:30 | User Profile
[SIZE=3]My Viewz On Jewz[/SIZE]
Franco said:
[color=red]"Did Mr. Rennick ever answer my question: 'why does he never name the taproot that is killing the West: Jews?"[/color]
Mr. Franco: In answering your question, let me first state that I see no people on Earth as powerful, as intelligent, as creative, or as strong-willed as whites. Collectively, we gave the world almost every worthwhile invention, almost every great work of art, almost every sublime thought in the pantheon of human history. We may not yet be gods, but we more than any other race have approached god-like greatness. That is why I find it so offensive whenever I see my fellow white nationalists cower at the very mention of the word "Jew". In fact, I find their excessive fear of these people rather embarrassing. Such fear implies cowardice on the part of whites, as well as inferiority - neither of which I choose to grant.
That said, this is what I know and what I believe about Jews - in general.
A: Jewish-Americans, according to what I've read, tend to be more politically liberal than not - and vote largely Democratic. This is one of the reasons why so many of them are involved in leftist causes and institutions, though right-wing Jews do exist.
B: Jewish-Americans are extremely cohesive, creating many public and private associations, groups, and organizations to advance their interests - with great success.
C: Jewish-Americans are prominently represented in such fields as law, medicine, banking, and - most notably - Hollywood - where they control the lion's share of movie production. They also have a heavy presence in both TV and print journalism as well.
Knowing all this to be true, many white nationalists believe the only way to advance their cause is to "name the Jew". For the sake of argument, let us agree to do just that. We will "name the Jew". And go on "naming" him. And....then what?
That's where VNN, the National Alliance, and all the other "name the Jew" crowd lose me. Name the Jew - and then what? After he's been "named", what then? Do you suppose that millions of white Americans will rise up in unison against the Jew and:
A: Pass laws in Congress that will forbid the Jew from owning movie studios and TV stations?
B: Spark an American "Krystallnacht"?
C: Ignite massive lynchings of Jews?
D: Cause the Jews themselves to say, "Oi vey! We Jew vermin have been exposed!" just before they all run like rats for the nearest Tel Aviv bound airplane?
That's why I have a big problem with this "name the Jew" tactic. Though I concede that Jews - as a group - have caused harm to America and continue to cause harm, what good does it do to belabor the point? Most white Americans will not be won over by such a heavy-handed approach, any more than if you try to get them to reject multiculturalism and Third World immigration by saying "negroes have a bad smell, don't you think?" Likewise, telling white Americans that "Jews are filthy kik*e vermin!" won't succeed either.
What's the answer, in my opinion?
Rather than target the Jew specifically, target the organizations they run that are harming white self-preservation. If a TV network is Jewish-owned and harming our cause, target the TV network for its "liberal-bias", its "pro-affirmative action policies", or whatever. Sure, "naming the Jew" may well give you some visceral satisfaction, but what good is that if you're blown off by mainstream white Americans as some "racist, Jew-hating boob"?
But maybe some key component has been left out that I've never heard before. So please tell me, Mr. Franco - what comes afterward? The Jew "has been named"...and then what?
Tom
2003-06-16 06:50 | User Profile
In answer to your question --
Anti-Jewish laws must be created, throughout the entire West. Jews must be banned from media, politics, property ownership and other mediums.
Naming The Jew comes first. After enough Whites are aware of The Jew, action without any complaints from Joe Public follows. Dig, Sir Rennick? Good.
2003-06-16 11:30 | User Profile
:o Thank you Mr Rennick, for your interest. In ansewer to your questions and comments let me offer the following. What I meant by the "being a father and having no tattoos comment" was simply this: I am a normal everyday chap. I sometimes happen to prefer thrashing guitars over the sweet strains of Verdi. The music is angry true, but entertaining nonetheless. Also, Resistance records happens to carry a wide range of products. Folk music, foreign music etc(I am partial to Frank Rennicke myself). Consider for a moment the awful filth the supposedly morally upright politicians in this country associate themselves with. As for Vonbluvens and friend I wish them the best of luck. They do nevertheless sound like couple of fratboys. As for VNN I find it interesting. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong. sometimes vulgar, but always informative. I am not presently even a member of the NA. I just feel they are the most lucid, farsighted organization promoting WN at this time. I think Dr. Pierce was a fine speaker, and I enjoyed his slant on current events. I also enjoy the broadcasts with Mr. Strom. The motives and tactics of the NA are their own. I feel they have done the best work in promoting WN. I have followed their progress for sometime, and they have never impressed me as a gutter organization. I won't recount their fine efforts here. Suffice to say, they seem to know who the enemy is and have a willingness to name him and that's good enough for me.