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Eendracht Maakt Mag [OP]

2003-06-14 21:35 | User Profile

You decide:

[url=http://www.jeffhead.com/]Jeff Head[/url]

Franco

2003-06-14 21:48 | User Profile

Does he post at OD, LF or other places?

Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-06-14 21:51 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Franco@Jun 14 2003, 15:48 * ** Does he post at OD, LF or other places? **

He is the newest member here and has made 1 post in the Current Events section. What tipped me off when I looked at his site was the "Iraqi Freedom Stamp Collection" as well as the fact that he won a "Freeper of the Year Award." I don't think he's a troll-just a confused freeper who thinks this is another "Let's Role" and "Nuke Dem Ayrabs" site.

Faust

2003-06-15 03:40 | User Profile

Prodigal Son,

He is the newest member here and has made 1 post in the Current Events section. What tipped me off when I looked at his site was the "Iraqi Freedom Stamp Collection" as well as the fact that he won a "Freeper of the Year Award." I don't think he's a troll-just a confused freeper who thinks this is another "Let's Role" and "Nuke Dem Ayrabs" site.

I do not see any reason to attack Mr. Head. As you said he not a troll. He must have some idea this Forum is less PC than most. Paleoconservatives need to grow their numbers, and this is not done, by only talking to people-who already agree with you about everything.

Jeff Head's thread:

A Tribute to my Father Honoring our Fathers on Father's Day [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?showtopic=8531]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...?showtopic=8531[/url]

madrussian

2003-06-15 03:44 | User Profile

I remember Jeff Head from FR when I used to post there. If he stopped by, the site must be becoming more popular ;)

Faust

2003-06-15 04:08 | User Profile

madrussian,

It could also mean that FR is still going down hill. The mindless Necon Bush Worshiping may be driving even more people out!

jjbrouwer

2003-06-15 04:43 | User Profile

Prodigal:

Why did you commend him on his thread for making "a good post" but then label him as a troll on another thread...?

Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-06-15 06:40 | User Profile

*Originally posted by jjbrouwer@Jun 14 2003, 22:43 * ** Prodigal:

Why did you commend him on his thread for making "a good post" but then label him as a troll on another thread...? **

I didn't "labe: him a troll; you'll notice a question mark in the thread title. I think it's clear that Mr. Head is not at all a troll, but a decent, inteliigent, accomplished, if misguided, individual who hopefully with some persuasion can be brough over to the paleo cause.

Kurt

2003-06-15 06:53 | User Profile

I'd just luv to hear his opinion on Dubya. I'm thinking it's something along the lines of: "Well, I think the President is a decent, God-fearing man. Sure, maybe he's not as tough on some issues, like immigration, as I'd like him to be, but all in all I think he's doing a damn fine job, and he's got my vote in 2004." :rolleyes:

Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-06-15 07:02 | User Profile

Originally posted by Kurt@Jun 15 2003, 00:53 * ** I'd just luv to hear his opinion on Dubya. I'm thinking it's something along the lines of: "Well, I think the President is a decent, God-fearing man. Sure, maybe he's not as tough on some issues, like immigration, as I'd like him to be, but all in all I think he's doing a damn fine job, and he's got my vote in 2004."* :rolleyes: **

His opinion of Dubya doesn't make him troll. As I said, its possibe {though perobably unlikely) that with a little persuasion Mr. Head can see the valid points of paleoconservatism. Remember, most people here started out as either kosher kahnservatives or liberals.

Kurt

2003-06-15 07:08 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Prodigal Son@Jun 15 2003, 01:02 * ** His opinion of Dubya doesn't make him troll. **

I didn't say it did. For the record, I don't think he is a troll either, but I am seriously curious as to what he thinks about President Bush.

Robbie

2003-06-15 16:47 | User Profile

I thought the suspected "troll" was the Ayn Randophile who attacked Alex Linder and has that Jewishy surname.

Kurt

2003-06-15 16:57 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Robbie@Jun 15 2003, 10:47 * ** I thought the suspected "troll" was the Ayn Randophile who attacked Alex Linder and has that Jewishy surname. **

Do you mean [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?showtopic=8415&st=0]Tommy Rennick[/url]? Yes, he's still our #1 troll suspect (as well as our #1 a-hole).

Franco

2003-06-16 02:43 | User Profile

In my opinion, Tom Rennick is like a Bircher. The Birchers call themselves an "anti-Communist" organization, BUT, for some "strange" reason, they do not name the very taproot of Communism -- The Tribe. Ever! Sound logical? Nope. Very strange. Very odd. Very weird.

So, in a way, Mr. Rennick is our resident Bircher.

[PS -- I was a Bircher until I saw the light -- or was it...The Dark? [spooky music inserted here, please.....]]. :rolleyes:

Eendracht Maakt Mag

2003-06-16 15:34 | User Profile

Originally posted by Kurt+Jun 15 2003, 10:57 -->
QUOTE* (Kurt @ Jun 15 2003, 10:57 )

QUOTE* (Texas Dissident @ Jun 23 2003, 11:06 )

QUOTE* (golfball @ Jun 27 2003, 13:44 )

QUOTE* (Leland Gaunt @ Jun 28 2003, 04:11 )

QUOTE* (Prodigal Son @ Jun 29 2003, 04:05 )

QUOTE (madrussian @ Jun 29 2003, 06:30 )
<!--QuoteBegin-Texas Dissident@Jun 28 2003, 23:28 * Absolutely untrue.ÃÂ While race is a valid distinction in temporal matters, at the foot of the Cross it just does not exist.*

There is no heaven, Tex. It's a big scam ;) **

Yeah, MR, prove it.

I'd like to hear your take on that.

Walter

Walter Yannis

2003-06-29 07:29 | User Profile

*Originally posted by golfball@Jun 28 2003, 04:51 * ** There are NO Inter-racial couples in Heaven. **

But is there beer?

This is the main question.

Walter

Raider of Arks

2003-06-29 15:44 | User Profile

**You are reversing the normal procedure. I think you have to prove first that heaven and hell exist and then we have to proof that it doesn't. Prove that there are angles, saints, a "holy spirit", demons, witches.

It's like asking for us to prove that no unicorns, minotaurs, gargoyles or elfes exist. Since we can't, I guess they must exist**

Thanks for saving me the typing. :D It is indeed more reasonable to put the burden of proof on believers. You can't prove ANYTHING doesn't exist.

Please prove the ONEEYEDONEHORNEDFLYINPURPLEPEOPLEEATER doesn't exist, scientifically of course.

It would be comforting to find just ONE freakin agnostic or even atheistic Christian, who simply follows the laws because he likes them and finds them beneficial.

I don't hate Christians, honest, I like them better than any other religious types, and better than most atheists or agnostics. At least the average Christian has a moral center. It's just depressing to me that most people need a vengeful, loving God to put them in their place. It's depressing that 99.9% of humanity is as afraid of death as it is.

The biggest problem I have with Christianity is its obsession with the next world. There is no bloomin next world. We have to do what we can with this life we are given, not sit around waiting for the one we won't be getting when we die. At least Judaism recognizes this.

Kurt

2003-06-29 18:35 | User Profile

Absolutely untrue. While race is a valid distinction in temporal matters, at the foot of the Cross it just does not exist.

What about "thy kingdom come, thy will be done, [u]on Earth, as it is in Heaven.[/u]"

So "racism" is ok on Earth, but not in Heaven? Why even create different races in the first place? :huh:

golfball

2003-06-29 21:30 | User Profile

Texas Dissident, I am glad that you pointed that particular instance out,: KJV 1611 Acts 8 26. And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. 27. And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, 28. Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. 29. Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. 30. And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? 31. And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. 32. The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: 33. In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. 34. And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35. Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37. And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

This was a test for Philip, to see what he would do with God's Blessing. Why did "the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip,..." ? Philip was not allowed to finish the baptism. You and I both know that when you rise up out of the water, the baptism is not finished yet. Both of our versions indicate a quickly halted baptism.

Jesus indicated who he came here for in Matthew:

Matthew 15

Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.

And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

[color=blue]You see?, this "woman of Canaan", approached Jesus and He IGNORED her at first. Then, Jesus told her that He did not come here for her or her kind. Jesus came here for the descendants of Adam.[/color]

But he answered and said,[color=red] I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.[/color]

Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

[color=blue]Even here, this colored, cannanite woman worshipped Jesus, but to no avail...[/color]

But he answered and said, [color=red]It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.[/color]

[color=blue]Jesus called this colored, cannanite , this negress, a dog. Jesus knows that negroes are not equal to the descendants of Adam, and HE NEVER CHANGES HIS POSITION.[/color]

And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

[color=blue]Here is where the negress acknowledges her rightful place in the world, BELOW the descendants of Adam, ( White Race - Israel ) and in so doing, she will be rewarded for her efforts.[/color]

Then Jesus answered and said unto her,[color=red] O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. [/color]And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

And Jesus departed from thence, and came nigh unto the sea of Galilee; and went up into a mountain, and sat down there.

[color=blue]Jesus came here for ONLY the White Adamic race. He did not come here for the lost sheep of Africa. He did not come here for the lost sheep of Mexico. He came here for the lost sheep of Israel, the White Adamic Race. All other creatures can worship Jesus, but His Blessing is for the White race ONLY.[/color]

Walter Yannis

2003-06-30 13:53 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Jun 29 2003, 06:28 * ** While race is a valid distinction in temporal matters, at the foot of the Cross it just does not exist.

**

Amen to that.

To paraphrase Schwietzer, the Negro is my brother in Christ, but circumstances indicated that God made him my little brother, at least here on Earth.

Not my fault, all complaints must be addressed to the Creator. That's the Natural Law, and I had absolutely nothing to do with the adoption and promulgation of that Code.

And I certainly can't say what situation will apply in the Hereafter, but given the Creator's apparent preference for "first shall be last, last shall be first" paradoxes, I think it wise not to lord over Negroes our higher IQ's and other advantages here on this Earthly plane. A small amount of indulgent kindness toward them, while of course maintaining the natural order, is an important hedge of our cosmic bets, IMHO.

We are all one in Christ, after all. We share a common humanity that transcends our sexual, national and racial divisions.

As St. Paul said, there is no Greek nor Jew, no male nor female, no slave nor free in relation to God's free and benificent gift of Christ Jesus, His Son.

Call me a screaming liberal, call me a misty eyed dreamer, but I believe that there is also no gay nor straight, no black nor white nor Chinaman nor Chicano, in regard to the ability of all to find God and to achieve salvation through God's free gift of His Son.

That's because God's gift of Christ came from outside Nature. The Transcendent reached in from the Outside in the Person of Christ, and thus Salvation in Christ Jesus is not subject to Nature's laws, for Nature is itself is the handiwork of the Father of Jesus.

But that said, there are males and females, Jews and Greeks, blacks and whites, gays and straights in regard to everything else, for everything else is governed by the Natural Law, a Code that we all remain subject to in every other respect.

That means that in regard to all other matters, females may not rule males; negroes may not rule whites (and I think vice versa); gays may not mock marriage with sodomy, or become the teachers and mentors of children; and Jews and Greeks (and the rest of us) must have their own nations, "in our families, with our languages, in our lands, in our nations."

It means a lot more, besides.

I'll end with that.

Thanks, Tex.

Walter

Raider of Arks

2003-06-30 14:03 | User Profile

Thanks for outlining some of the more virulent dangers of Christianity. It is precisely Saul and his "there is neither Jew nor Greek" that troubles me about the good book.

golfball

2003-06-30 17:40 | User Profile

Hmmm, this thread is going in a direction of a different forum. I 'll refer some religious issues for the Christianity forum. B)

However, one's fear of God cannot be misplaced. If God indicates or says, do this, or don't do this, I will not count on Salvation and Love to cover misleading others in spiritual matters. There are many, many warnings concerning God's way and how it is presented.

Racemixing and the tolerance of it leads down a destructive path. Homosexuality and the tolerance of it leads down a destructive path. Allowing non-whites into an all White church leads down a destructive path. Here is a very good verse that applies to all: Galatians 6 7. Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

It is wise to understand that what is literal in God's Word, was placed there for us to take at face value. :)

Walter Yannis

2003-06-30 19:38 | User Profile

*Originally posted by golfball@Jun 30 2003, 17:40 * ** Racemixing and the tolerance of it leads down a destructive path. Homosexuality and the tolerance of it leads down a destructive path. Allowing non-whites into an all White church leads down a destructive path. Here is a very good verse that applies to all: Galatians 6 7. Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. **

I agree with that, as did nearly all Christians until very recently.

Heck, you don't even have to be a Christian to see that race mixing is bad for "nations" - a basic biology textbook and a bit of reflection should suffice for that.

I agree with you about the authority of things clearly spelled out in Scripture, but we Catholics (and Orthodox) have an additional source of authority in Holy Tradition.

Regards,

Walter

golfball

2003-06-30 21:11 | User Profile

*Originally posted by Walter Yannis@Jun 30 2003, 14:38 * ** I agree with that, as did nearly all Christians until very recently.

.........

Regards,

Walter **

That would be when the Christian church became the Judeo-Christian church, circa 1946 or 1948? :(

We do live in a trying time, of that there is no doubt. It would be nice to turn back the clock, before Jews perverted the church with communist indoctrination and those idiots embraced "Diversity" and "Multi-culturalism".

That is not happening on a nationwide scale though.

Each and everyone of us aware Christians has to approach our respective denominations and confront our "Pastors" with words straight out of the Bible that they hold up as the Word of God when church starts the regular Sunday morning service. It will be up to us to continue our efforts to get our preachers to stand in front of the whole congregation at the podium and say, "Racemixing is a sin!". "God does not allow it or tolerate those that do". Only when a preacher is willing to announce this in front of his congregation, will real change be allowed to occur. :th: