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2003-06-13 04:01 | User Profile
"Pretty Fly For A White Guy" Song makes fun of Wiggers.
**"Pretty Fly For A White Guy"
The Offspring - Preety Fly - Americana
Give it to me baby Give it to me baby Give it to me baby And all the girlies say im pretty fly for a white guy Uno Dos Tres Quatro Cinco Cinco Seis You know its kinda hard just to get along today Our subject isn't cool but he thinks it anyway He may not have a clue and he may not have style But everything he lacks well he makes up in denial
CHORUS: So dont deflate, play it straight You know he really doesnt get it anyway Gonna play the field, keep it real For you know a way, for you know a way So if you don't break, just over compensate At least you know you can always go on Ricky Lake The world needs wannabees hey hey do the brand new thing Give it to me baby Give it to me baby Give it to me baby And all the girlies say im pretty fly for a white guy He needs some cool tunes, not just any will suffice but they didnt have ice cube so he bought vanilla ice now cruising in his pinto, he sees homies as he pass but if he looks twice as good (they) gonna kick his lilly ass
CHORUS The world loves wannabees hey hey do the trendy thing Now he's getting a tatoo yah, he's getting ink done he asks for a 13 but they drew a 31 friends say he's trying too hard and he's not quite hip but in his own mind he's the, he's the dopest trick Give it to me baby Give it to me baby Give it to me baby Uno Dos Tres Quatro Cinco Cinco Seis
CHORUS The world needs wannabees The world loves Wannabees Lets get some more wannabees hey hey do the brand new thing
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"Pretty Fly For A White Guy" Lyrics (Different version) [url=http://www.offspring.com/lyrics/lyrics_amr_pf.html]http://www.offspring.com/lyrics/lyrics_amr_pf.html[/url]
Pretty Fly (For A White Guy) The Offspring Director: McG
FLY REVISIONS
Intro: This opening shot is all done by way of Steadicam -- the first cut does not happen until the first verse (30 seconds into the track -- think "Goodfellas.") Open on a traditional looking father saying goodbye to his little red-headed son (Seth), who is dressed in ultra Hip-Hop gear -- goggles on his head, ENYCE jeans, MECCA jersey, etc. The father says, "Oonter, gleeben, bobben, bloben," as though saying, "so long son, have fun today" -- the kid gives him a Hip-Hop hug and exits the front door out into the world...
The drum fill happens, the camera begins tracking backwards looking at the kid as he walks out toward the driveway. In time with the first, "Give it to me baby," we see 2 black girls in tight little shirts that read, "OFFSPRING" ont he front, enter the frame from behind the kid. They sing, "Give it to me baby," our hero kid responds, "Uh-huh, uh-huh." He reaches his '64 Impala parked out in the street, gets in, looks at the camera and says, "And all the girlies say I'm pretty fly for a white guy," the car pulls out of frame to reveal...
Noodles (who was concealed by the car before it pulled out of frame), playing the riff. He is walking toward the neighboring house, the garage door begins to lift, we see the remaining members of The Offspring inside performing the song. The interior of the garage is dressed out with mirrored Plexiglass and flashing lights -- like the elements you would see in a Hip-Hop video. The camera moves in tight on Dexter's face, as he sings the opening lines. We begin to pull out from Dexter's face to reveal a now much larger version of what we established as the interior of the garage -- it is clearly a soundstage. The lights are bigger and flashier. It looks like something right out of a Missy Elliot video. Cut back to...
1st Verse and Chorus: Seth now driving down the boulevard. He is banging his head to the temp of the track like the little white rock and roller he really is at heart. He sees Mack 10 standing on the sidewalk and immediately sits way back in the seat and throws a Westwide "W" handsign at Mack. Mack looks at him like, "What the...?" Seth gives a look at the camera like, "He loves me, I'm so down," and continues down the road. We see a group of Latin kids on low rider bicycles that look twice as cool as our hero. They are amused by how lame this white kid is, trying to be everything he is not.
He pulls up to the stoplight and is serenaded by the same black girls (really 4 black girls, a Latin girl and a white girl), who are at the bus stop playing double dutch and provocatively eating their ice cream bars and cooing at our hero, "Give it to me baby." Again, Seth looks at the camera cluelessly like, "They love me," and he drives away...
It is important to note that throughout the piece we intermittently cut back to band performance.
2nd Verse and Chorus: Further down the road he spots a bunch of kids breakdancing on the corner. Cut to Seth jumping out of the Impala and walking right into the breakdance circle -- disrupting the current breaker's backspin. Threatening looks ensue, but Seth calms the crowd like, "Wait a minute, watch me work." At this section the scene is shot two ways: 1. Seth starts doing the ultimate Molly Ringwald/white dance, then is confronted on the dance floor by two thugs who you would think are about to kick his ass, but ultimately start doing the Molly Ringwald right along with him. After a moment they stop, chuckle and diss, but Seth doesn't even notice. We also shoot, 2, Seth does the white dance, then a real breakdancer clears him out of the way and disses him through his state of the art break moves. Either way, at the end of the scene, Seth is grabbed by the black girls we've seen earlier, lifted overhead, and carried out of the frame...
3rd Verse and Chorus: Cut to Seth being carried in above the heads of our narrator/dancers into the consummate LL Cool J style pool party. We see Seth being brought through the crowd and seeing things he has never seen before: people of all different races and creeds having a great time just being themselves. The narrator girls drop Seth in the middle of tattooed Black Flys type guys. In an effort to fit in with this clique, our hero removes his Hip-Hop shirt to reveal a giant tattoo across his shoulder blades that reads PUNKER. In time with the final chorus, Seth is tossed into the water by the Black Flys. The song releases into its most energetic section, people are dancing and partying now harder than ever. Soul Train/"Been Caught Stealin'" dance line ups are happening -- we see some of it from Seth's underwater point of view. Our dancer girls go into their classic R&B dance number -- everything is off the hook...
Outro: Seth drags his now finally defeated spirit ("Hey, maybe I should stop the charade.") out of the water and begins the long walk home -- the party continues on without him. Cut to him re- entering the same cookie cutter suburban neighborhood from the opening of the piece (once again, Steadicam). We see water dripping from his shoes and socks as he walks up on the driveway past his ballerina sister pirouetting on the front lawn. He enters the house and closes the door behind him, the camera pans over to the neighboring house, in time with the final cow bells, the garage begins to close on The Offspring. Fade to black...
In some capacity I would like to introduce a Latin character, either a fat guy in a giant sombrero or a cool looking trim guy with prison style Virgin Mary tattoos on his forearms, to do the "Uno, dos, tres, quatro, cinco, seis." However, I think the best idea is to get a Chihuahua to conspicuously appear each time that part happens and deliver the lines.
url: [url=http://www.cvp.net/treatments/PrettyFly_Treatment.html]http://www.cvp.net/treatments/PrettyFly_Treatment.html[/url] **
2003-06-13 04:23 | User Profile
Yes, I remember the song, and the video. It was kind of funny, though I wonder if they would've done a song/video making fun of blacks in a similar way, like say, "Pretty Bright, For A Non-White," about a Negro who tries his best to "act white." In the video, we see a black man dressed in a 3-piece suit, reading Keats, while all the brothas mock him. :lol:
[SIZE=2]And speaking of rock, you know the one thing no rock star will do, even so-called "rebels" like Metallica or Marilyn Manson? "Name the Jew!" or say anything racist, for that matter. They'll commit human sacrifice onstage, but say something negative about the Chosen, or a person-of-color? No waaay, dude![/SIZE] :rolleyes:
2003-06-13 06:07 | User Profile
I certainly don't mind da brillos aiming pillow-lipped smirks at the wiggers - the pathetic bastids deserve all that contempt & more from the apes they worship. Maybe it'll shame them into becoming White men, but I doubt it. What I object to is that way The Filthy Juus have made sure that Whites of all stripes are the sole objects of mockery.
2003-06-13 06:13 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Kurt@Jun 12 2003, 22:23 * **
[SIZE=2]And speaking of rock, you know the one thing no rock star will do, even so-called "rebels" like Metallica or Marilyn Manson? "Name the Jew!" or say anything racist, for that matter. They'll commit human sacrifice onstage, but say something negative about the Chosen, or a person-of-color? No waaay, dude![/SIZE] :rolleyes: **
"Metallica" is a bunch of poser queerbaits.
I have always been a big fan of "Burzum". Varg Vikernes names the Jew constantly. In fact, a lot of guys in the Black Metal scene use their music as a vehicle for White nationalism.
Lately, I've had "Immortal" in my cd player. Great stuff.
2003-06-13 06:16 | User Profile
"Metallica" is a bunch of poser queerbaits.
Ain't that sissy-sounding Kirk Hammett a fudgepacker as well as a sh-tty guitarist?
2003-06-13 06:23 | User Profile
Originally posted by N.B. Forrest@Jun 13 2003, 00:16 * ** "Metallica" is a bunch of poser queerbaits.*
Ain't that sissy-sounding Kirk Hammett a fudgepacker as well as a sh-tty guitarist? **
That's what I hear. I can't stand the guy's musicianship either.
The only legit metal these days comes from Europe. "Immortal" is great, old "Burzum" still holds up...and so does "Emperor", "Darkthrone", and early "Mayhem".
The only American metal that I spin is classic stuff like "Iron Maiden", "Slayer" and old Sabbath.
2003-06-13 14:19 | User Profile
Walter, just for clarification, though, Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath are not American.
2003-06-13 14:30 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Phillip Augustus@Jun 13 2003, 08:19 * ** Walter, just for clarification, though, Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath are not American. **
LOL! Good call. It was late when I made that post.
2003-06-13 15:13 | User Profile
Though, it was also a bit late for me, and I forgot that, while Sabbath started in the UK, they were at least part America, part of the time, specifically when the great Ronnie James Dio was with them. :rock:
2003-06-13 15:33 | User Profile
Originally posted by Kurt@Jun 12 2003, 23:23 * [SIZE=2]And speaking of rock, you know the one thing no rock star will do, even so-called "rebels" like Metallica or Marilyn Manson? "Name the Jew!" or say anything racist, for that matter. They'll commit human sacrifice onstage, but say something negative about the Chosen, or a person-of-color? No waaay, dude![/SIZE] :rolleyes:*
Morrissey, formerly of The Smiths, comes close.......from his upcoming album:
*Irish Blood, English Heart (Morrissey/Whyte)
Irish blood, English heart This I'm made of There is no one on earth I'm afraid of And no regime can buy or sell me
I've been dreaming of a time when to be English is not to be baneful to be standing by the flag, not feeling shameful racist or racial
Irish blood, English heart this I'm made of There is no one on earth I'm afraid of And I will die with both of my hands untied
I've been dreaming of a time when the English are sick to death of Labour, and Tories and **spit upon the name Oliver Cromwell and denounce this royal line that still salute him and will salute him FOREVER... *** Cromwell, of course, is known for bringing back the jews to England after a 500 year exile.....or something like that.
2003-06-13 15:43 | User Profile
Originally posted by Walter E Kurtz+Jun 13 2003, 01:23 -->
QUOTE (Walter E Kurtz @ Jun 13 2003, 01:23 ) <!--QuoteBegin-N.B. Forrest@Jun 13 2003, 00:16 * ** "Metallica" is a bunch of poser queerbaits.* Ain't that sissy-sounding Kirk Hammett a fudgepacker as well as a sh-tty guitarist? **
That's what I hear. I can't stand the guy's musicianship either.
The only legit metal these days comes from Europe. "Immortal" is great, old "Burzum" still holds up...and so does "Emperor", "Darkthrone", and early "Mayhem".
The only American metal that I spin is classic stuff like "Iron Maiden", "Slayer" and old Sabbath. **
Metallica are San Francisco rich kids who pose as dirtbag hard rockers. Not that some of their music is not good, but musically speaking, Lars Ulrich is a much worse drummer than sissy Kirk Hammet is a guitar player. Actually, Lars is one of the worst drummers I've ever heard and has a worse speaking queer accent than anyone in rock. Marilyn Manson is cool though. :punk:
Kurt
2003-06-13 15:47 | User Profile
** N.B. Forrest: I certainly don't mind da brillos aiming pillow-lipped smirks at the wiggers - the pathetic bastids deserve all that contempt & more from the apes they worship. Maybe it'll shame them into becoming White men, but I doubt it. What I object to is that way The Filthy Juus have made sure that Whites of all stripes are the sole objects of mockery.**
Yeah, I'm all for wigger-bashing, too (actually, [url=http://www.offspring.com/]The Offspring[/url] are White); I was just wondering if anyone would bash Blacks for "acting White" (what it the Black equivalent of a "[url=http://www.wiggaz.com/]wigger[/url]," anyway? Oreo? Uncle Tom?); then again, I guess rappers and leftist Blacks already do that, and I must admit, I prefer Blacks acting White to Whites acting Black, or Blacks acting Black, for that matter. :D
**I have always been a big fan of "Burzum". Varg Vikernes names the Jew constantly. In fact, a lot of guys in the Black Metal scene use their music as a vehicle for White nationalism.
Lately, I've had "Immortal" in my cd player. Great stuff.**
I've never listened to any "[url=http://www.blackmetal.com/]Black Metal[/url]," but maybe I should. Anyway, I don't think [url=http://www.burzum.com/]Burzum[/url] is exactly burning up the charts. ;) I was referring to the more mainstream artists, who all know that making any anti-semitic, racist, and/or homophobic comments is suicide. I did forget about [url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/901526/posts]Ted Nugent[/url] though, but again, he's not exactly big with the bratz today ("Ted Who?"). Also, I think he has neo-con tendencies, like [url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/901526/posts]supporting[/url] the war on Iraq, and hasn't "named the Jew" as far as I know.
Btw, what exactly is Kirk Hammett, anyway? He doesn't look quite White to me.
[img]http://www.encyclopedia-metallica.com/photos/tomasz6.jpg[/img]
Faust
2003-06-13 15:59 | User Profile
Kurt
What it the Black equivalent of a "wigger," anyway? Oreo? Uncle Tom?
All I can think of is [url=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=buppie+black+yuppie&btnG=Google+Search]Buppie.[/url]
Kurt
2003-06-13 16:10 | User Profile
*Originally posted by xmetalhead@Jun 13 2003, 09:33 * ** Morrissey, formerly of The Smiths, comes close.......from his upcoming album: **
Yes, I'm familar with the Smiths, and Morrissey. I didn't even know he had a new album coming out. Cool. B)
Actually he has been accused of being a racist before...
** From the [url=http://www.oz.net/~moz/faq/faqlyric.htm]Smiths/Morrissey FAQ[/url]:
Aren't the songs [url=http://www.oz.net/~moz/lyrics/killuncl/asianrut.htm]Asian Rut[/url], [url=http://www.oz.net/~moz/lyrics/yourarse/thenatio.htm]The National Front Disco[/url], and [url=http://www.oz.net/~moz/lyrics/vivahate/bengalii.htm]Bengali In Platforms[/url] racist?
Ah, the old "is Morrissey a racist?" discussion. This conversation has been beaten to death numerous times on Smiths lists and (surprise) a conclusion was never come to. Many feel he is speaking from the character's (who may be racist) point of view. Others think these are Morrissey's own true feelings and that he "proved it" by wrapping himself in the Union Jack flag while in concert in '92, an event thrown into sharp contrast by the recent Britpop "explosion" which saw many British artists wearing and identifying with "fascist emblems" such as this, with nary a whisper from the press. At the heat of the racist debate, the frankly despicable former NME editor Steve Sutherland wondered if Morrissey's alleged racism "might be a gay thing". Which goes to show the level of discussion of the topic at that point. Another spin has been added to this argument recently as Morrissey issued a press release concerning the album [url=http://www.oz.net/~moz/lyrics/maladjus/malainde.htm]Maladjusted[/url] with the pseudonym Stoney Hando. Hando is the name of the lead skinhead character in the 1992 Australian film "Romper Stomper."**
I also recall hearing something about the British band Cornershop (whose lead singer is Indian) burning pictures/records of Morrissey in some kind of "protest," and I remember reading how Morrissey hated the idea of "Live Aid" and refused to be any part of it.
Walter E Kurtz
2003-06-13 16:32 | User Profile
Originally posted by Octopod@Jun 13 2003, 10:04 * ** Walter Kurtz: I have always been a big fan of "Burzum". Varg Vikernes names the Jew constantly.ÃÂ In fact, a lot of guys in the Black Metal scene use their music as a vehicle for White nationalism.*
Then what's your problem with the National Alliance and similar groups? Resistance Records sells that sort of music. The NA helped defend Hendrik Moebus. Funny that you will bash "neo-Nazis" yet have no problem with a blatantly National Socialist "black metal" band. I'm not trying to start an argument, but for God's sake, have at least a modicum of consistency. **
Hendrik Mobus is scum, and his band sux. "Absurd" was never even a real band, it was a pet project of William Pierce.
Vikernes is a skilled composer...he basically reinvented Black Metal. The tripe that is sold on Resistence is just that: tripe. Underproduced propaganda in fancy packaging.
I'll ask you again, Mr. Squid:
What positive effect has the NA had on the cause of White Nationalism? All I see are a bunch of paranoid malcontents who scare away a lot of potential sympathizers...and engage in a lot of "cult-like" behavior.
I'm not terribly hostile to National Socialism...I'm hostile to maladjusted clowns who engage in random violence, join cults, and hold themselves out as the ideological heirs of National Socialism. People like this are a joke.
Walter E Kurtz
2003-06-13 16:52 | User Profile
Originally posted by Octopod@Jun 13 2003, 10:44 * ** Walter Kurtz: *Hendrik Mobus is scum, and his band sux.ÃÂ "Absurd" was never even a real band, it was a pet project of William Pierce.
Vikernes is a skilled composer...he basically reinvented Black Metal.ÃÂ The tripe that is sold on Resistence is just that: tripe.ÃÂ Underproduced propaganda in fancy packaging.
I'll ask you again, Mr. Squid:
What positive effect has the NA had on the cause of White Nationalism?ÃÂ All I see are a bunch of paranoid malcontents who scare away a lot of potential sympathizers...and engage in a lot of "cult-like" behavior.
I'm not terribly hostile to National Socialism...I'm hostile to maladjusted clowns who engage in random violence, join cults, and hold themselves out as the ideological heirs of National Socialism.ÃÂ People like this are a joke.**
What the Hell are you talking about? Absurd was a real band, not a "pet project of William Pierce." Do you actually follow the European scene or do you just go by what you read in ADL and SPLC reports?
You're "hostile to maladjusted clowns who engage in random violence?" Which National Alliance members have done so? On the other hand, Varg Vikernes got some stiff prison time for killing ÃËystein Aarseth. People in his scene are also well known for random acts of arson and vandalism, but somehow you never brought that up. Note that I'm not condemning or condoning Vikernes or his acts; I'm only pointing out how hypocritical (or just ignorant and confused) you seem to be.
What are you thinking? You're nuts. Or ignorant. There's no other way to put it. **
Are you having your period, Squid?
You're a clown if you think that "Absurd" has any credibility in the BM scene. I'm tired of your ad hominem. f*ck you.
Walter E Kurtz
2003-06-13 17:10 | User Profile
Originally posted by Octopod@Jun 13 2003, 11:04 * ** Walter Kurtz: *Are you having your period, Squid?
You're a clown if you think that "Absurd" has any credibility in the BM scene.ÃÂ I'm tired of your ad hominem.ÃÂ fck you.*
Readers may judge for themselves as to which one of us is suffering from menstrual cramps.
[url=http://www.rusmetal.ru/vae_solis/mortiiscomments.html]As everyone of you should remember, Oystein Aarseth (a.k.a. Euronymous) was murdered by Varg Vikernes (a.k.a. Count Grishknackh) on the 10th of August 1993ââ¬Â¦[/url]
What were you saying about criminals who engage in acts of violence?
[url=http://vulture.fasthost.tv/articles_files/mmfvarg.htm]Vikernes was prosecuted for robbery, illegal possession of explosives, grave desecration and arson. But he was convicted for the severest of all of his crimes: murder. "The man I murdered was my enemy," Vikernes says, "What else should I have done with him?" [/url]
What were you saying about malcontents who join cults?
Look, you're the one who has been smearing the National Alliance and other WN groups at every opportunity. Then you come along and announce your enthusiastic support for Varg Vikernes, the arsonist and killer. This shows that you are either a) nuts; B) ignorant or c) a provocateur. Readers should note that I don't condemn Vikernes, Moebus, or the National Alliance. (Vikernes and Moebus are both violent men, but like Eric Rudolph they live in a sick society and at least have a good excuse for it.) Mr. Kurtz is the one who vilifies the National Alliance while claiming to support Vikernes, who has a criminal record that makes Moebus look like a choirboy. This kind of silliness is ridiculous and does nothing to increase the "respectability" of our movement. **
Good one, little man. I don't throw my support behind your jackoff buddies in the NA so I'm an "agitator".
Vikernes is a pretty maladjusted guy...but I like his art. And by all accounts, Euronymous got what was coming to him.
Hendrik Mobus murdered some teenaged kid because he's a kill freak who wanted to get his rocks off.
If you want to rally around Chester Doles and pretend that the NA is paving a future for White people, then that's your business, but quit busting my balls...its tiresome. I hang out here instead of Stormfront because I got sick of trying to reason with dogmatic cultists.
Your patron saint William Pierce used to hold up Joseph Paul Franklin (pedophile serial killer) and Bob Matthews (delusional sociopath) as "true sons of their race". I don't have a lot of use for people who are open and notorious in their support for this sort of conduct.
xmetalhead
2003-06-13 18:34 | User Profile
Originally posted by Kurt+Jun 13 2003, 11:10 -->
QUOTE* (Kurt @ Jun 13 2003, 11:10 ) <!--QuoteBegin-xmetalhead@Jun 13 2003, 09:33 * ** Morrissey, formerly of The Smiths, comes close.......from his upcoming album: ** Yes, I'm familar with the Smiths, and Morrissey. I didn't even know he had a new album coming out. Cool. B)
Actually he has been accused of being a racist before...
** From the [url=http://www.oz.net/~moz/faq/faqlyric.htm]Smiths/Morrissey FAQ[/url]:
Aren't the songs [url=http://www.oz.net/~moz/lyrics/killuncl/asianrut.htm]Asian Rut[/url], [url=http://www.oz.net/~moz/lyrics/yourarse/thenatio.htm]The National Front Disco[/url], and [url=http://www.oz.net/~moz/lyrics/vivahate/bengalii.htm]Bengali In Platforms[/url] racist?
Ah, the old "is Morrissey a racist?" discussion. This conversation has been beaten to death numerous times on Smiths lists and (surprise) a conclusion was never come to. Many feel he is speaking from the character's (who may be racist) point of view. Others think these are Morrissey's own true feelings and that he "proved it" by wrapping himself in the Union Jack flag while in concert in '92, an event thrown into sharp contrast by the recent Britpop "explosion" which saw many British artists wearing and identifying with "fascist emblems" such as this, with nary a whisper from the press. At the heat of the racist debate, the frankly despicable former NME editor Steve Sutherland wondered if Morrissey's alleged racism "might be a gay thing". Which goes to show the level of discussion of the topic at that point. Another spin has been added to this argument recently as Morrissey issued a press release concerning the album [url=http://www.oz.net/~moz/lyrics/maladjus/malainde.htm]Maladjusted[/url] with the pseudonym Stoney Hando. Hando is the name of the lead skinhead character in the 1992 Australian film "Romper Stomper."**
I also recall hearing something about the British band Cornershop (whose lead singer is Indian) burning pictures/records of Morrissey in some kind of "protest," and I remember reading how Morrissey hated the idea of "Live Aid" and refused to be any part of it. **
Kurt, yes Morrissey recently signed with a division of Sanctuary Records after being label-less for 6 years. Check here: [url=http://www.Morrissey-solo.com]http://www.Morrissey-solo.com[/url] Those Morrissey songs mentioned in that article are, of course, my favorites.... especially......
"The National Front Disco" David, the wind blows The wind blows ... Bits of your life away Your friends all say ... "Where is our boy ? Oh, we've lost our boy" But they should know Where you've gone Because again and again you've explained that You're going to ...
Oh, you're going to ... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah England for the English ! England for the English ! David, the winds blow The winds blow ... All of my dreams away And I still say : "Where is our boy ? Ah, we've lost our boy" But I should know Why you've gone Because again and again you've explained You've gone to the ... National, ah ... To the National .. There's a country; you don't live there But one day you would like to And if you show them what you're made of Oh, then you might do ... But David, we wonder We wonder if the thunder Is ever really gonna begin Begin, begin Your mom says : "I've lost my boy" But she should know Why you've gone Because again and again you've explained You've gone to the : National To the National To the National Front Disco Because you want the day to come sooner You want the day to come sooner You want the day to come sooner When you've settled the score Oh, the National Oh, the National Oh, the National Oh, the National Oh, the National
Ragnar
2003-06-15 19:39 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Kurt@Jun 13 2003, 04:23 * ** [SIZE=2]And speaking of rock, you know the one thing no rock star will do, even so-called "rebels" like Metallica or Marilyn Manson? "Name the Jew!" or say anything racist, for that matter. They'll commit human sacrifice onstage, but say something negative about the Chosen, or a person-of-color? No waaay, dude![/SIZE] :rolleyes: **
Well, this is mostly true except for... Michael Jackson.
The entertainment biz, as I heard it, was actually covering for him till he came out with the song that had the "Jew me, jew me" in the lyrics. Then they turned on him and that's why we know about his... uh, preferences.
Likewise his pissing contest with Sony not too long ago had a clear anti-Tribe component. When Sony shot back that his sales were lagging because of he was a child molester, not because of their incompetent marketing, it was clear that the press and TV networks were working in concert against Jacko.
Jacko may not be a favorite here, but he indeed "Named the Jew".
2600
2003-06-15 19:56 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Kurt@Jun 12 2003, 22:23 * **
[SIZE=2]And speaking of rock, you know the one thing no rock star will do, even so-called "rebels" like Metallica or Marilyn Manson? "Name the Jew!" or say anything racist, for that matter. They'll commit human sacrifice onstage, but say something negative about the Chosen, or a person-of-color? No waaay, dude![/SIZE] :rolleyes:**
Well, I believe Public Enemy also pissed off the Tribe at some point. Professor Griff called Jews "wicked" in an interview and then on Fear Of A Black Planet, Chuck D said:
Crucifiction ain't no fiction So called Chosen frozen Apology made to whoever pleases Still they got me like Jesus
And then on one of their newer CDs they have the memorably titled "Swindler's Lust."
I read that VNN piece about Public Enemy being 'Jew-controlled', which is probably true [Lyor Cohen, what name!], but hey, itz better than nothing.
Pinochet
2003-06-23 00:35 | User Profile
Originally posted by Walter E Kurtz+Jun 13 2003, 00:23 -->
QUOTE (Walter E Kurtz @ Jun 13 2003, 00:23 ) <!--QuoteBegin-N.B. Forrest@Jun 13 2003, 00:16 * ** "Metallica" is a bunch of poser queerbaits.* Ain't that sissy-sounding Kirk Hammett a fudgepacker as well as a sh-tty guitarist? **
That's what I hear. I can't stand the guy's musicianship either.
The only legit metal these days comes from Europe. "Immortal" is great, old "Burzum" still holds up...and so does "Emperor", "Darkthrone", and early "Mayhem".
The only American metal that I spin is classic stuff like "Iron Maiden", "Slayer" and old Sabbath. **
Iron Maiden is british... and yes, they are a good group :th: Black Sabbath is disgusting, Ozzy is known for animal cruelty (besides his "bat" episode, which was an accident).
W.R.I.T.O.S
2003-06-23 04:56 | User Profile
Kirk Hammett certainly appears to be something other than pure white. I've always wondered about that.
Skeptic
2003-06-23 07:44 | User Profile
"I Got You" by country singer Dwight Yoakam has this interesting couplet: "I've had to buy back damn near everything I own/from a little man whose name is Saul and has a lot of money to loan."
Mild, I know, but pretty darn revolutionary by mainstream standards.
Has anyone heard the unreleased Bruce Springsteen song, "The Klansman?"
Word of the trouble spread around One day a man came to my town I was In the kitchen when my Pa let him in Shook my hand, said "Son, the Klan is your friend"
Was a meeting at Lyle Stanton's house on the Jefferson highway Some they did not listen Some did not turn away Said when the holy rain of fire comes tumblin' from above It'll be a Klansman who'll stand for the land he loves Look away, look away now
I was ten years old when my Pa said "Son, Someday you will see And you will wear the robe like your brother and me When the war between the races leaves us in a fiery dream It will be a Klansman who will wipe this country clean This, son, is my dream"
N.B. Forrest
2003-06-23 09:22 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Skeptic@Jun 23 2003, 07:44 * ** "I Got You" by country singer Dwight Yoakam has this interesting couplet: "I've had to buy back damn near everything I own/from a little man whose name is Saul and has a lot of money to loan."
Mild, I know, but pretty darn revolutionary by mainstream standards.
**
Dwight Yoakam is one of the most talented country artists ever. I didn't know about that song. Very interesting. Maybe that's a big part of the reason this great musician's career is on the skids while total non-entities like Toby Keith, Darryl Worley & Rascal Flatts are getting relentless airplay, hmm?
As for Springsteen, I find it extremely hard to believe that he'd paint the Klan in anything but the most negative light possible.
Madrid burns
2003-06-23 10:06 | User Profile
*Originally posted by W.R.I.T.O.S@Jun 23 2003, 06:56 * ** Kirk Hammett certainly appears to be something other than pure white. I've always wondered about that. **
Kirt hammett is part fillipino.
Texas Dissident
2003-06-23 15:07 | User Profile
The lead singer / bassist for Slayer is a Mexican by the name of Sanchez, I believe.
Avalanche
2003-06-23 19:16 | User Profile
** Dwight Yoakam is one of the most talented country artists ever. I didn't know about that song. Very interesting. Maybe that's a big part of the reason this great musician's career is on the skids while total non-entities like Toby Keith, Darryl Worley & Rascal Flatts are getting relentless airplay, hmm?** I dunno N.B.F. -- Dwight's getting SOME rotation on CMT -- not a lot, but I see him every so often! (oops! My secret is out! After Dave ends, I usually flip to CMT for background music while I surf... He's sure a fascinating cat! (Dwight, not Dave). I saw a thingie about Dwight and how he moved to CA and has become a real California kinda guy, just loves it out there! He's interesting (but HOW does he get into those pants?!)
eric von zipper
2003-06-23 19:31 | User Profile
He was great in Sling Blade. I didn't even recognize him till I read the credits.
The scene where Dwight and his hopeless band are sitting around drinking and the one redneck starts referring to himself as a lyricist while the neighbor is yelling for them all to shut the hell up is priceless. Everything is going fine until someone makes the mistake of saying that what they really need is a paying gig. Naturally this sets Dwight off into one of his pyscho rages.
Dumb question of the year is when he says to Billy Bob "what you doin with that blade?"
Madrid burns
2003-06-23 19:47 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Texas Dissident@Jun 23 2003, 17:07 * ** The lead singer / bassist for Slayer is a Mexican by the name of Sanchez, I believe. **
Nope. He is Chilean :)
Pinochet
2003-06-23 20:27 | User Profile
His name is Tom Araya
triskelion
2003-06-23 20:42 | User Profile
I actively avoid mainstream commercial music so I don't know much about some of the bands mentioned here.
It's amazing that Dwight Yoakam has written lyrics as radical as posted here.
X-Metalhead should note that Morrissey is very hard left and that "National Front Disco" is making fun of that group which he falsely thinks represents Eurocentrics in the UK.
With respect to the Mobus fellow it should be pointed out that he did not actually kill anyone but instead was an accomplice to murder by being present at a killing which he neither helped nor hindered and failed to report to the police. At the time of the murder he was not politically active but rather, he became so while in prison. Obviously, such a person is someone that no sensible racialist should have any dealings with inspite of the fact that some of his writings are meritorious and that he currently is a genuine political prisoner. As I don't like 95% of the "NSMB music" that's about I'll refrain from judging his band beyond saying that while a couple songs have good lyrics it is not anything I would choose to listen to.
With regards to Varg I am pretty negative. I concede that his music, which I don't like, is well crafted and some of it has interesting lyrics and that a good deal of his articles he has written are interesting. ÃËystein Aarseth was a vile creature better not left to roam this planet. The unavoidable reality is that he is a pathological hater of Christians, an arsonist and Nordic supremacist (a rather rare fringe position among racialists in Scandinavia) and a liability to anyone interested promoting racialism. As a result, I would never have any association with such people or those that actively support them.
Any racial music I would listen to or support would have to be positive in terms of it's message and promoted by people that are sincere, sane and law abiding. As a result, I still like the old Oi!/Rock Against Communist stuff as it reflects the reality of being forced to live in a multi-racial hell and is totally honest, work class music. I like Sol Invictus, Ian Read, nationalist ballads new and old and the various stuff I mentioned in the "Tom Rennick" thread I started. I have zero interest in hatecore and almost all NSBM and think that racialists would be far better off to actively avoid such vile filth.
Texas Dissident
2003-06-23 20:54 | User Profile
Originally posted by Madrid burns+Jun 23 2003, 14:47 -->
QUOTE* (Madrid burns @ Jun 23 2003, 14:47 ) <!--QuoteBegin-Texas Dissident@Jun 23 2003, 17:07 * ** The lead singer / bassist for Slayer is a Mexican by the name of Sanchez, I believe. ** Nope. He is Chilean :) **
Oops! In that case, my sincere apologies to Sr. Araya. I know a Chilean would not cotton to being mistaken for a Mexican.
N.B. Forrest
2003-06-25 01:42 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Avalanche@Jun 23 2003, 19:16 * ** I dunno N.B.F. -- Dwight's getting SOME rotation on CMT -- not a lot, but I see him every so often! (oops! My secret is out! After Dave ends, I usually flip to CMT for background music while I surf... He's sure a fascinating cat! (Dwight, not Dave). I saw a thingie about Dwight and how he moved to CA and has become a real California kinda guy, just loves it out there! He's interesting (but HOW does he get into those pants?!) **
Yeah, I see him on there every now & then, too. If talent & charisma were the real criteria for exposure, he'd be on every day. The sucker is just plain cool. He has that same sort of on-stage aloofness that Jimmy Page had. Edginess - not that sugary-sweet "Oh, darlin', I jes' cain't WAIT to come home after a hard day's work to rub your feet an' change the baby's sh-tty diaper" garbage most of these cowboy-hatted pretty boys pule nowadays.
Faust
2003-06-25 15:43 | User Profile
Skeptic,
Thanks for telling us about this Song. What was that Pinko thinking?
**THE KLANSMAN
Word of the trouble spread around One day a man came to my town I was in the kitchen when my pa let him in He shook my hand, said, "The Klan's your friend"
Was a meeting at Lyle Stanton's house On the Jefferson Highway Some, they did not listen Some did not turn away
Said, "When the holy rain of fire Comes tumbling from above It'll be a Klansman Who stands for the land he loves"
Look away, look away now
I was ten years old when my pa said, "Son, some day you will see When you grow to wear the robes Like your brother and me
"When the war between the races Leaves us in a fiery [???] It'll be a Klansman Who will wipe this country clean This, son, is my dream
url: [url=http://www.xs4all.nl/~maroen/engels/lyrics/theklans.htm]http://www.xs4all.nl/~maroen/engels/lyrics...cs/theklans.htm[/url]
Bruce Springsteen LYRICS [url=http://www.xs4all.nl/~maroen/engels/tv.html]http://www.xs4all.nl/~maroen/engels/tv.html[/url] **
Texas Dissident
2003-06-25 18:15 | User Profile
I remember well when Dwight Yoakum broke out back in the mid-80s or so with his song "Guitars, Cadillacs Hillbilly Music." I remember reading a review of his wild performance at Gilley's. His 'problem' if you will, was an unwillingness to play the Nashville game. Fortunately, the strength of his creativity and musicianship has provided him enough clout and record sales to do his own thing. Off the top of my head I can't think of any Yoakum album that doesn't have some outstanding quality songs on it.
He is at his best in my opinion, when he is true to the Bakersfield sound that he came out of. Think Buck Owens and that pretty much characterizes it. For any folks that like that sound, there are a few modern-day bands that are still carrying the torch. I would suggest starting with a group called The Derailers.
golfball
2003-06-26 03:52 | User Profile
*Originally posted by Skeptic@Jun 23 2003, 02:44 * ** "I Got You" by country singer Dwight Yoakam has this interesting couplet: "I've had to buy back damn near everything I own/from a little man whose name is Saul and has a lot of money to loan."
Mild, I know, but pretty darn revolutionary by mainstream standards.
Has anyone heard the unreleased Bruce Springsteen song, "The Klansman?"
Word of the trouble spread around One day a man came to my town I was In the kitchen when my Pa let him in Shook my hand, said "Son, the Klan is your friend"
Was a meeting at Lyle Stanton's house on the Jefferson highway Some they did not listen Some did not turn away Said when the holy rain of fire comes tumblin' from above It'll be a Klansman who'll stand for the land he loves Look away, look away now
I was ten years old when my Pa said "Son, Someday you will see And you will wear the robe like your brother and me When the war between the races leaves us in a fiery dream It will be a Klansman who will wipe this country clean This, son, is my dream" **
Makes one wonder what album this came out on...... :)
Texas Dissident
2003-06-26 07:03 | User Profile
I've never been into Springsteen, but he can't be all bad. Hank III covered his "Atlantic City" on his last album and it sounds pretty dang good.
MadScienceType
2003-06-26 16:26 | User Profile
**I would suggest starting with a group called The Derailers. **
Hot damn! Another Derailers fan! Those boys can really, really play. I've got all their albums (though the last two haven't been as good, IMO) of which Jackpot is my favorite, though Reverb Deluxe is also great. I try to see them every time they play at the Broken Spoke, a quintessential Austin honky-tonk and a dive, but they got Shiner, so who cares?
Those boys are just plain good.