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TexasAnarch [OP]

2003-06-10 19:03 | User Profile

NO WMD = BUSH/BLAIR LIED Local Press prints Max Boot gloss Sunday

                Posted:  Original Dissent forum 6.10.03 copy to editors*

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      Paul Krugman and John Dean have now used the ugly “l-“ word for what Bush and Blair have just pulled off, and think they have got by with.  That’s more than a bruised heel.  It’s the sound of a left-wing heat shield ripping off.

      For the Gannett-owned Binghamton Press Opinion page editor Frank Roessner to print neo-con artist Max Boot’s comments, under the heading:

“STILL NO SIGN OF WMD – That Doesn’t Make Bush, Blair liars” is proof positive, if any further were needed, that they are a part of the “fix” that arranged the “war”-fiasco and must now hide from the consequences.

      Unfortunately, I was unable to download the article, or find a link, so am reduced to typing the first paragraphs:

       “Opponents of the war in Iraq must be chagrined to see pretty much all of their arguments discredited by events.
“The invasion did not cause greater regional unrest; instead it led to a resumption of Palestinian-Israeli peace talks.  There have been no massive refugee flows or other humanitarian disasters.  U.S. troops did not encounter Stalingrad on the Euphrates.  And so on.

“Not able to forgive George W. Bush and Tony Blair for being right, the naysayers are now emphasizing what looks to be their strongest argument:  the failure so far to find weapons of mass destruction.

“The European media is in a frenzy about the “lies” that led to war New York Times columnist Paul Krugman is already suggesting this may be “the worst scandal in American political history.”

“Those who make this argument must think that the U.S. and British governments are not only deeply venal but also stupid.  Their theory, essentially, is this:  The president and prime minister deliberately lied about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction to justify an invasion that they knew would show no such weapons existed.  (?1)

“It is indeed puzzling that U.S. forces haven’t found more evidence of WMD, but this hardly shows that Bush and Blair lied.  It does show how imperfect our intelligence was, (?2) which actually makes the case for preventive war much stronger.

“Critics of preventive wars (those undertaken to head off a future danger) suggest that we should wait to hit back until just before we’re going to be attacked (pre-emption) or just after (retribution).  But how are we going to find out about an attack* just before it happens, or even how are we going to assign blame afterward…”***

***This performance well illustrates the process, those responsible for it, the style, way of being, and utterly despicable inferiority the blame falls on this time, for all time, and betimes. For, its not just Bush and Blair. It’s him, and those like him, still trying to double-talk their way down to a safe landing.

?1  This question mark was inserted to flag a sentence illustrating the behavior pattern Freud called “reaction-formation” (aka pathological lying by truth-reversal for its own sake – because it is true).  The president and prime minister deliberately misrepresented what they knew about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction to justify an invasion (.. “that they knew would show…”etc.) – the “:etc.” is supposed to reverse what has just been printed, which is the proposition for which a mass of evidence exists.

?2  On the contrary, it was British intelligence, actually accused by 10 Downing St people of providing misleading advice, who blew the whistle and said they had been pressured to make the threat seem more real than it was.  Boot’s comment falls in the same category. It goes beyond the contemptuous, malicious, hateful, since it was the intelligence sources saying there was no threat that were politically overridden, and would invariably be again, and again, however many billion dollars his ilk can con out of Cross-dressing Repubs to pay the Jew tax.


**For the OD board, the important point, if the wheels come off (as I see it) is not allowing the US-Israel connection, which is responsible for the lying, be split-off, as was surely anticipated would happen to the public complaints by P. Buchanan and Rep. Moran of neocon -Jewish influence, before the war, after the bloodletting began.  What we were doing is what put the pressure on to make then hurry up.  What we must continue to do is focus the blame where it belongs, let the chips fall where they may.

It makes for an intolerable situation.  We, who are the real Americans, have not been consulted in arranging these schemes; we (I) do oppose them most vehemently.  To submit to such inclusion exceeds the limits of human forbearance.

MY POLITICAL PROPOSAL IS: an AMERICAN IDENTITY MOVEMENT __ Based on inner secession from the false Union, counterfeit conservatism, reversal Of what liberty means.

Including all who will put their heritage as Americans under the U.S. Constitution, as an identity opposed to this administration, the corrupted political system it is a symptom of, and those factions, political, theoretical, personal and geo-political that have usurped control of communication.

The following was hand delivered to Binghamton Press & Sun Bulletin columnist Dave Rossie (secretary) 6.08 by Prof. Sid Thomas, Ph.D., State U. of New York at Binghamton (emeritus), duly noted.

BUSH and BLAIR LIED! The Press is using the Neo-Con Jew Max Boot To Aid Cover up! (see Opinion Page, Sunday, 6.8)

GETTING READY TO DATE-RAPE AMERICA* ( AGAIN) In Election ‘04 (All the little neocons are planning to get off scott free.)

         (*”Bipartisanship is another name for date-rape”, says right-wing ideologue Grover Norquist recently in the Denver Post,  source. P. Krugman, NYTimes 6.006)

                           Didn’t you know that, Laci?  Guess not.

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      It was impossible to stop the War Party.  They didn’t listen to reason because Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, threatening to strike any second.  “We know he’s got ‘em!” they kept saying.  Still are.  (“We know because we’ve got the receipts”, adds Molly Ivins sourly )

          Externally owned (Gannet) Binghamton newspaper hustles quotes, pics,  from local Appalachin stalwart at Vestal’s Skylark Diner, vowing Bush support.  Protect his children, he will.  Bullshit, everyone said under their breath. “We’ve got conclusive evidence,” was the gist.  That was the reason they didn’t have to listen to anyone else.

        And that is what makes their disappearance such a bitch. “Must have moved before we got there.”  Sure.  “Smuggled into Syria.”  Absolutely.  Would you believe to two turnip-canning trucks found in the desert pumping weaponized anthrax (“a little dab’ll do ya, Daschle”)? Would you believe anything?

“It wasn’t really the reason anyway,” says  “Wizard” Wolfowitz, chief Jew in the Defense Dept.  Poisoning everyone’s mind about Saddam Hussein is just one of those Reaganite things everyone could agreed to lie around. Sort of like secret wars in Cambodia, Laos, or elsewhere.  Worked for Casey, Abrams and the right-wing death-squad pooh-bahs  in Central America, didn’t it?  Why, sure it did.  And Max Booters (to “boot” is to shoot up with heroin, in hipspeak; ol’ Max is, but I mean, New York Wall Street Journal tough) are nothing if not pragmatic.  They’ll take a sure shot, everytime.  They’re not known as the Horriuci choo-choo’s for nothing.

“Not that it matters,” says Tiny Tom Friedman.  WMDs never were the “real” reason for hitting Iraq.  It was to cut off Muslim/Islamic educational influence from the emerging generation of Arab youth, says this Jewish columnist, who did not oppose the war, but tried to define every step for “us.”.  (“Because We Could”, New York Times 6.05.03)

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ITS ABOUT WHERE THE POISON IS, IN FANTASY & REALITY

It is now necessary for Americans to be absolutely and categorically rude and ruthless in linking Zionist Jewry to the War Party and lying about poison threats in order to defend against them.  The obsession is with the chemical-biological agents.  “Weapons of mass destruction” is just the phrase constructed to simultaneously display and disguise the poison tokens. Jews know that they are subject to being made victims of other’s poison-fantasies.  It happened in Germany before WW II.  The Third Reich was “cleansing” itself of the non-Aryan blood.  That was the group-fantasy leading to the “holocaust”; just as the threat posed by Saddam Hussein’s WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION was the driving group fantasy to destroy Baghdad.  In order to defend themselves* (*=group ego-defenses, largely unconscious in the individual, as such)  this generation of Jews has manipulated and deceived America into acting with them to defend what is, for us, a displacement.  “NOT US!  NEVER US! ITS HIM! SADDAM HUSSEIN!  HE’S YOUR POISONER!”   In allowing this to happen, Americans merge (their) God (note full token) with G-d (note mutilated token – the way some Orthodox Jews write YH-H, which they pronounce

ya-weh). The pledge of allegiance to the flag “under God” takes on a whole new meaning, if this is allowed to happen.

Texas Dissident

2003-06-10 19:09 | User Profile

Originally posted by TexasAnarch@Jun 10 2003, 14:03 ** It is now necessary for Americans to be absolutely and categorically rude and ruthless in linking Zionist Jewry to the War Party and lying about poison threats in order to defend against them. **

Indeed. And what better way for all of the dirty laundry to be aired than in Congressional Impeachment hearings. Impeach Bush.

Hugh Lincoln

2003-06-10 20:52 | User Profile

The War for Greater Israel was kind of like a foreign-affairs Jayson Blair: Lying Jews and sell-out Gentiles bend over so far backward for a Jewish cause that something blows up in their face that can't be hidden. The question is when folks are going to say, "enough." Inevitably, Jews will step up to announce that "things have gone too far" but will expertly parry any association between the debacle and their influence. Paul Krugman serves nicely here.

Given the chutzpah of the administration, I'm surprised they haven't just made something up.

It is indeed puzzling that U.S. forces haven’t found more evidence of WMD, but this hardly shows that Bush and Blair lied. It does show how imperfect our intelligence was, which actually makes the case for preventive war much stronger.

Yes, I love this Alice in Wonderland logic. You see, the less evidence there is against the defendant, the MORE guilty he is, by God!

As I recall, "weapons of mass destruction" was repeated so often as justification for the war that it, well, became a phrase.

Any OD'ers have predictions on whether there will be Congressional hearings? I'm betting "no."

Sisyfos

2003-06-10 23:31 | User Profile

**Given the chutzpah of the administration, I'm surprised they haven't just made something up. **

*That would certainly be the thing to do, if one had a reasonable chance of getting away with it. But it seems that they no longer have any chance of making it work.

Highly placed individuals within intelligence services on both sides of the Atlantic are apparently haemorrhaging classified information in effort to make the war hawks look bad and would relish an opportunity to unwrap something major so as to seal their fate. Lying, procuring false dossiers and overlooking foreign secret service activities on American soil is one thing, but lying and planting bogus evidence while contending with unsympathetic elements who are in position to know better is something else. I suppose, they could subcontract foreign nationals to perform what’s required but then they’d still have to deal with unimpressed domestic professionals.

Forget the Watergate comparison, but consider the following exodus:*

[SIZE=2]WeaponsGate: The Coming Downfall of Lying Regimes?[/SIZE]

By WAYNE MADSEN

You wouldn't know if from listening to the leading Democratic candidates for President, but "Weaponsgate" may ultimately bring about the downfall of the Bush regime and its allies in London, Canberra, and elsewhere. The neo-conservatives may have also finally stirred something in the Fourth Estate, which has suddenly begun challenging the lying echo chambers in the White House and Number 10 Downing Street.

The arrogance displayed by the Bush regime, somewhat surprising since it gained power through a fraudulent election process, is what may result in its eventual undoing. Bush may or may not ever realize how he was ill served by the neo-con blight that took root within his administration, particularly within the Department of Defense. But the historians and scholars, who will look back on what turned the tide for a supposedly "popular" war president, will point to the self-described "cabal" whose lies brought about a credibility gap unseen in the United States since the days of Watergate. In fact, Bush's "Weaponsgate" will be viewed as a more serious scandal than Watergate because 1) U.S. and allied military personnel were killed and injured as a result of the caper; 2) Innocent Iraqi civilians, including women and children, died in a needless military adventure; and 3) the political effects of the scandal extended far beyond U.S. shores to the United Kingdom, Australia, Spain, and other countries.

Other effects of Weaponsgate are already apparent. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, the majordomo of the neo-cons within the Pentagon, cannot find anyone to take the place of outgoing Army Chief of Staff General Eric Shinseki. Generals Tommy Franks and Shinseki's vice chief, General John "Jack" Keane, want no part of the job. After winning a lightning war against Iraq, Franks suddenly announced his retirement. He and Keane witnessed how Rumsfeld and his coterie of advisers and consultants, who never once lifted a weapon in the defense of their country, constantly ignored and publicly abused Shinseki. Army Secretar y and retired General Tom White resigned after a number of clashes with Rumsfeld and his cabal. The Commander of the First Marine Expeditionary Force in Iraq, Lt. Gen. James Conway, said he was surprised that he encountered no chemical weapons in Iraq.

Perhaps Conway was surprised because that is what the neo-cons wanted him and his fellow Marines to believe. Conway and his troops were merely additional victims of "Weaponsgate." Paul Wolfowitz, a chief neo-con cabalist, let the cat out of the bag in Singapore when he said that everyone could agree on a cause of war being Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. That would be the common denominator in justifying an attack, whether or not such weapons could ever be found. Wolfowitz also stated that Iraq's swimming on a "sea of oil" was the reason it had to be attacked and not, for example, North Korea. The fact that weapons of mass destruction are actually possessed by North Korea, a country lacking any significant natural resources, is of no concern to the neo-cons. Oil was and is the bottom line in Iraq. Sometimes, even the liars trip up and actually tell the truth. But only in a world where the neo-cons have enjoyed a stranglehold on the corporate media can Wolfowitz's supporters claim he was misquoted and the UK's Guardian be forced to print a clarification, one step short of a retraction. Congenital liars like Wolfowitz should never be given the benefit of the doubt on any issue..

Bush's Press Secretary, Ari Fleischer, who has had his own problem with recognizing the truth, was obviously concerned how the history books will treat him. He decided to leave his post mid-term rather than face the music over his repeated distortions about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction as a casus belli. Other Bush administration officials, political and career, have also jumped off what appears to be a rapidly sinking ship of state. They include Richard Haass, who as the director for policy planning, was number three at the State Department; Christine Todd Whitman, Environmental Protection Agency administrator; Rand Beers, the senior National Security Council director for counter-terrorism; Charlotte Beers, the State Department chief for International Public Diplomacy (who was said to have resigned for -- get this bit of Soviet-style spin -- "health reasons"), and State Department career Foreign Service officers John H. Brown, John Brady Kiesling, and Mary A. Wright.

Then there was the sudden firing of retired General Jay Garner as U.S. viceroy of Iraq. He was "outed" as having past associations with the neo-cons, especially the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA). But when Garner started to show some independence in Baghdad, especially with regard to handing over some power to Iraqis, he was quickly sacked and replaced by Paul Bremer, a former Heritage Foundation flunky and Kissinger Associates director who was obviously more in tune with the ideological bent of the neo-cons. In a Pentagon where the civilian neo-cons don't trust the uniformed flag rank officers, Garner likely became a threat, a potential Trojan horse who had to be replaced by someone whose loyalty was beyond question.

The most dramatic revolt against George W. Bush and Tony Blair can be seen from the high-level leaks of classified information from the top levels of American and British intelligence. Just consider that the United States has never experienced such repeated leaks of classified information since the years of the spies in the 1980s, a time when a number of intelligence employees were caught selling U.S. secrets to the Russians and Israelis. Yet, the current leaks are not acts of treason, but acts of unbridled patriotism.

The leaks from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), CIA, State Department, and other agencies are testimony to the deep divisions within the Bush administration over the phony war on Iraq. Intelligence agencies that are often at odds with one another over policy have united like never before in blowing the whistle on the neo-con agenda. The Bush administration lied flat out over the Iraqi WMDs and Iraq's links to Al Qaeda. It's just that simple. Career intelligence officers, who know the penalties for the unauthorized disclosure of classified information, are showing more courage than most of the Democrats in Congress who seem more fearful of the neo-cons and their supporters than in exposing "Weaponsgate."...

For those who are looking for the straw that broke the camel's back in "Weaponsgate" they need not look any farther than Number 10 Downing Street. The troubles that Tony Blair are now experiencing may be a harbinger for things to come in Washington. Blair is in deep trouble and he knows it. After returning from the G-8 summit in Evian, France, Blair was reported by The Obsever to be running around Number 10 in a pathetic panic. In a moment of temporary insanity, which must have been precious to people who loathe Blair, the toothy Prime Minister was pacing about his residence and yelling that people needed to get a grip on what was happening. One of Blair's aides had to comfort Blair and convince him that his advisers were on his side. Blair must have had thoughts of John Major getting ready stick it to Margaret Thatcher or of Brutus getting ready to plunge a knife into the back of Julius Caesar. Blair's political opponents within his own Labor party had seized on his government's use of a "dodgy dossier" on Iraqi WMDs to support the attack on Iraq as an example of Blair's deceit. The dossier, titled "Iraq: Its Infrastructure of Concealment, Deception and Intimidation," was based on a 12-year-old PhD thesis culled from the Internet and the bogus Chalabi documents about Nigerien uranium.

The revolt against Blair should serve as a warning for Bush. Just consider what is happening in Britain. Blair has been abandoned by some of his most senior government officials, including former Leader of the House of Commons Foreign Secretary Robin Cook and former International Development Minister Clare Short, in addition to a number of lesser Cabinet officials. Over 70 of Blair's Labor members of the House of Commons are in open revolt against his duplicity. No wonder Godric Smith, Blair's official spokesman, announced his resignation the same day that Ari Fleischer was announcing his departure in Washington. The wheels are coming off the transatlantic neo-con wagon. New Labor and the "Compassionate Conservative" Republican Party have been shown to be total ruses. Their war policies and global domination goals have been thoroughly exposed as neo-fascist manifestations of the teachings of neo-con philosopher Leo Strauss.

But Blair faces an even more serious revolt from his intelligence officials. Blair's use of bogus intelligence to claim that Britain had only a 45-minute warning prior to an Iraqi chem-bio attack reportedly resulted in the threatened resignations of the heads of MI-6 and MI-5, Sir Richard Dearlove and Eliza Manningham-Buller, respectively, And there was the leak of a January 31, 2003 Top Secret memo from the National Security Agency to its Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) counterpart, which asked for British help in electronically snooping on members and non-members of the UN Security Council to determine their stance on America's anti-Iraq UN resolution. That memo was reportedly leaked with a wink and an nod from the highest levels of British intelligence...

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