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2003-06-05 17:43 | User Profile
[url=http://www.sierratimes.com/03/05/06/albenson.htm]The Rising Tide of Southern Nationalism[/url]
by Al Benson Jr.
Most of us have noticed, in recent years, how the attempted ethnic cleansing of the South seems to have been stepped up. It's almost as if the politically correct feel their window of opportunity is closing and they better get it done quickly. But, then, maybe ethnic cleansing is too gentle a term for what they are trying to do--cultural genocide might well be a more fitting term--as the politically correct cultural marxists attempt to completely erase any memory of the Old South and what it stood for (which wasn't just slavery). Although the cultural Marxists have won many battles, all has not gone smoothly for them. Where they have triumphed, in many cases, it has been with the help of cowardly politicians and big business, all of whom hurriedly assure us that Southern heritage is "bad for business." Interesting that it hasn't hurt it up to this point! However, more recently they have been getting some opposition. Many Southern folks have just grown tired of hearing about how bad their ancestors and culture is and are beginning to speak up in defense of their heritage.
In his book "The Southern Nation--The New Rise of the Old South" author Rob Thornton has stated: "Southern nationalism is a drive to preserve the social, religious, political, and cultural traditions of the Southern people. True Southerners denounce the secular humanist tendencies that have guided the empire since Appomattox. These Northern intellectual fantasies value nature above man and man above God. Meanwhile they place commercial greed and materialism above all."
The Kennedy Brothers, in their book "The South was Right" have dealt with emerging Southern nationalism. In discussing Southern folks who have gotten tired of being treated as second-class citizens they have written: "Their activities are usually limited to the local level, but even in these areas it is possible to detect a resurgence of pride in the South. The resurgence of Southern pride is greatly feared by the Northern liberal and his Southern scalawag counterpart because national pride strikes at the heart of liberal philosophy--guilt. Modern liberals are driven by a sense of guilt."
And Franklin Sanders, in an article in "Southern Events" magazine probably said it as well as anyone could have when he wrote: "We are the sons and daughters of the people who made a covenant with God and crossed that ocean and climbed the Blue Ridge and watered the land with their sweat and blood and fed it with the bones and bodies of wives, husbands, and children. We are the children of people who fought Indians and Frenchmen and British and Yankees and Reconstruction and poverty and boll weevils and pellagra and hook worm and everything else hell and the Yankees could throw at us--and survived it all by the grace of God. We are the people whom Providence has hammered into this land like a mighty iron stake, and we cannot be pulled out. We are the children who say 'My people have been here 400 years, and nobody is running me out'."
It is worth noting that this is the attitude that the Yankees tried to suppress with their government school system, which was one of the most integral parts of their "reconstruction" program. Yet, 140 years later, for all of their vaunted successes and financing, they have not fully erased it. With all their money and brainwashing, they have not been able to fully overcome those Southerners who are willing to think for themselves, praise God.
The heritage of the Old South is a Christian heritage, and I submit that this is the main reason the cultural Marxists seek to destroy it and erase its memory. Some Christians, at some point, will stand up and speak the truth, and if enough people listen to them, the lies of the cultural Marxists and their friends will be in jeopardy. Better to try to make a people ashamed of their heritage so they never attempt to seek the truth about it, thus you keep them in cultural bondage to your whims. However, in God's providence, it will not work. As sure as God is the author of all truth, that truth cannot be forever suppressed and will, at some point, be revealed.
Perhaps the quickest way to promote the rise of Southern nationalism is not to promote pride, but rather to promote a sense of thankfulness to God and a sense of our needing His divine guidance in what we do in the future. Let us not seek to foster arrogant pride in heritage, but rather an attitude of humility toward and thankfulness to God for what He has been pleased to give us, that, with His help, we might be about reclaiming our heritage, that our children and grandchildren might be able to enjoy it, and pass the truths of it along to their children.
Copyright 2003 The Sierra Times
2003-06-06 04:12 | User Profile
Originally posted by Octopod@Jun 5 2003, 18:38 **I agree with much of what the author says. However, I have to disagree that the Mason-Dixon line is most important. The real divide is between the alien elite and ordinary White Americans, whether north or south. There are numerous Whites here up north--in the Midwest, and generally the Heartland--who are of the same nationality as White Southerners. Namely, red-blooded American. **
I know paleodom is split on southern sectionalism. Sam Francis shares your southeroskeptic point of view I know. He wrote an article "Southern Independence, an Infantile Disease" a while back.
My general impression of most southerners is the most radical thing they have in mind these days is joining the GOP, for which they think they ought to get some hero medal. Sales of magazines like The Spotlight have always in general been strongest in the rural midwest, not the south.
For that matter that's where the KKK, in the 20's when it was a real force and not just a FBI front, was strongest too.
2003-06-07 03:32 | User Profile
okiereddust - Your impression of Southerners must be based on the ones you hear about and see in movies. Yes, we have as many cowards and idiots as any other section does, but our being a special target again is raising consciousness here faster than is generally understood. Stay tuned.
Btw, the 1920s northern-adopted KKK was a governmentally approved social club. Nothing at all close to the underground defender of society it was during "reconstruction".
pod - Flemio is a twit. That doesn't mean that the verdict of the war won't be eventually overturned. Even post-Jews, the behemoth is too big, too rotten.
2003-06-07 23:29 | User Profile
And remember, Jeff Davis's right hand man was the jew [url=http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/biography/Benjamin.html]Judah Benjamin[/url]. Or was he one of those "good" Jews I keep hearing about?
Can we please get over this North Vs. South crap, and get on with being [u]White[/u]?
2003-06-07 23:31 | User Profile
Originally posted by Octopod@Jun 5 2003, 12:38 ** I agree with much of what the author says. However, I have to disagree that the Mason-Dixon line is most important. The real divide is between the alien elite and ordinary White Americans, whether north or south. There are numerous Whites here up north--in the Midwest, and generally the Heartland--who are of the same nationality as White Southerners. Namely, red-blooded American.
Red blood, white skin, and blue collar. Red, White, and Blue. What could be more American than that? :lol: **
Right on! :th:
2003-06-07 23:34 | User Profile
Originally posted by Kurt@Jun 7 2003, 19:31 ** > Originally posted by Octopod@Jun 5 2003, 12:38 ** I agree with much of what the author says. However, I have to disagree that the Mason-Dixon line is most important. The real divide is between the alien elite and ordinary White Americans, whether north or south. There are numerous Whites here up north--in the Midwest, and generally the Heartland--who are of the same nationality as White Southerners. Namely, red-blooded American.
Red blood, white skin, and blue collar. Red, White, and Blue. What could be more American than that? :lol: **
Right on! :th: **
[off-topic]
Kurt...just wondering, your avatar is one of those Frankfurt School guys, right? Either that, or it looks like it could be "Egon" from Ghostbusters. Who is it?
2003-06-07 23:44 | User Profile
Kurt...just wondering, your avatar is one of those Frankfurt School guys, right? Either that, or it looks like it could be "Egon" from Ghostbusters. Who is it?
It's "Henry," a character from the David Lynch film Eraserhead
Go [url=http://www.davidlynch.de/head.html]here[/url] for more info.
2003-06-08 01:49 | User Profile
Originally posted by Ruffin@Jun 7 2003, 03:32 ** Btw, the 1920s northern-adopted KKK was a governmentally approved social club. Nothing at all close to the underground defender of society it was during "reconstruction".
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That might depend on circumstances
A hotbed of Klan activity in the 1920s was Long Island, of all places. It seems the white proles in Long Island had more experience with the Chosen and the Klan was their political vehicle of choice.
Whatever the perceived reason, one out of every six white Long Islanders was in the KKK by 1926. I think it has to do with how threatened a white community feels it is, not what region it is in. Which makes me wonder about all white communities nowadays.
2003-06-08 03:02 | User Profile
Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Jun 7 2003, 21:55 With characteristic eloquence, Benjamin replied, "It is true that I am a Jew, and when my ancestors were receiving their Ten Commandments from the immediate Deity, amidst the thundering and lightnings of Mt. Sinai, the ancestors of my opponent were herding swine in the forests of Great Britain."
That's pretty much the same sentiment that Yehuda over at FR has expressed.
My, how they breed true to type. Lockean "blank slate" my left appendage.
2003-06-08 03:35 | User Profile
Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Jun 7 2003, 19:55 While Judah Benjamin preferred such obscurity, his prominence as a Jew assured that he would come under harsh scrutiny, both during and after his life. For example, on the floor of the Senate Ben Wade of Ohio charged Benjamin with being an "Israelite in Egyptian clothing." With characteristic eloquence, Benjamin replied, "It is true that I am a Jew, and when my ancestors were receiving their Ten Commandments from the immediate Deity, amidst the thundering and lightnings of Mt. Sinai, the ancestors of my opponent were herding swine in the forests of Great Britain."
AY, where did you find this quote? It's funny, because I seem to remember reading almost the EXACT same quote by Benjamin Disraeli! I think it was something like....
Originally posted by Benjamin Disraeli ** Yes, I am a Jew, and when the ancestors of the right honourable gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the temple of Solomon.**
Is this a time honored Jewish insult or something? :huh:
2003-06-08 04:49 | User Profile
Originally posted by AntiYuppie@Jun 7 2003, 19:53 **If anything, the movies portray Southerners in a manner exactly opposite to what Okie is saying. Hollywood and the sensationalist mass media would have us believe that the South is a hotbed of rightwing radicalism, when in fact it is nothing of the sort. Insofar as various radical right movements have any momentum at all (be it racialism, the militia movement, etc), the Midwest is indeed the focal point.
.....And to the right of Buchanan, most militia, Klan, and other such activities have the midwest rather than the deep south as focal points.
The closest thing you get to any of this in the deep South is neoconfederatism, and neoconfederatism of a rather deracinated sort stripped of any ethnic or racial connotations. I agree with Jared Taylor (in his response to Fleming and other champions of neo-Confederatism) that the cultural divide between white and colored is much stronger than that between north and south. If there is any geographical cultural and political division at all in white America, it is urban/rural rather than north and south. A dairy farmer in New Hampshire probably has more in common with a peanut farmer in Georgia than the peanut farmer in rural Georgia has in common with an investment banker in Atlanta or the New Hampshire dairy farmer with an academic in Boston.
Another reason neo-Confederatism is worse than useless is the fact that it is the only form of rightwing radicalism that establishment conservatives (National Review, etc) find halfway tolerable. They laugh at it but they don't demonize it, and even give it an occassional token hearing. This is a clear indicator that the movement is utterly harmless and without teeth, unlike the racialist or militia movements.**
Yes I don't really know about the South really. From what is happening in the SCV, I suspect there is actually quite a bit of dissension in the South. The fight ripping through the SCV,as these links show, seem to show the extent of the division.
[url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?act=ST&f=11&t=5284&hl=sons+of+confederate+veterans]SPLC on SCV[/url]
[url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=8050&hl=sons+of+confederate+veterans]Wilson Loses Bitter SCV Vote[/url]
Some Southerners are quite aware of their heritage and past, but it also seems there is a strong resistance to people who stir things up too much, as the fight in the SCV demonstrates. It seems the vast majority of Southerner these days think supporting the Republican Party is the epitomy of right-wing activism, and anything that threatens their status as good Republicans is to be discretely hushed.
I'm not exactly sure where this mentality comes from, but it seems to me that most Southerners have a deep inferiority complex about the way they are treated by the media, and their main emphasis is trying to become more accetable and mainstream.
At least its that way for the Southern elites. I have always got the impression along these lines that politics in the South are more dominated by elites that they are in the Midwest. Maybe that's one of the reasons why populist style right-wing politics today get further in the Midwest.
I'll rest in favor of one of our native southrons.
2003-06-08 05:36 | User Profile
[img]http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/breath/Faces_asthma/past_images/VIIA14.gif[/img] Benjamin Disraeli
Seems like, with a few minor variations, they did have a standard reply.
Disraeli's response in Parliament to an anti-semitic remark:
"Mr. Speaker, I am a Jew. And when the ancestors of the honourable member who made that remark were brutal savages in some unknown corner of Europe, my ancestors were priests in the Temple of Solomon. That Temple was situated in Israel. That was five thousand seven hundred and fifty eight....or is it nine...years ago.ââ¬Â
He was, of course, insulting all Britons--including Queen Victoria--with that remark. The cheek of these beggars!
2003-06-08 07:41 | User Profile
Originally posted by Octopod@Jun 7 2003, 18:41 **BTW, I just remembered where I first read this phrase:
"Red blood, white skin, and blue collar. Red, White, and Blue. What could be more American than that?"
Actually I think it was
"Red neck, white skin and blue collar..." **
That would be the title of Johnny Russell's country hit "Red Necks, White Socks and Blue Ribbon Beer."
No we don't fit in with that white collar crowd We're a little too rowdy and a little too loud There's no place that I'd rather be than right here With my red-necks white socks and blue ribbon beer
2003-06-08 15:35 | User Profile
AY - The neo-Confederate "movement" that began in the 90s has all but collapsed from its timidity. It's that collapse that has driven many of its former members into a more realistic but as yet less demonstrable sympathy with harder line WN. Here's an example of the simmering surface that has replaced flag rallies.
Sympathy for Bombing Suspect May Cloud Search for Evidence By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN
PEACHTREE, N.C., June 1 ââ¬â Betty Howard made many people happy today, and it was not for her daily special. Around noon, Mrs. Howard walked outside, glanced up at the sign in front of her diner and decided to change the lettering on the marquee from "Roast Turkey Baked Ham" to "Pray for Eric Rudolph."
"Bless his heart," Mrs. Howard said. "Eric needs our help."
Mrs. Howard said she was going to start an Eric Rudolph legal defense fund. Many customers have already said they would chip in.
A day after the authorities finally collared Eric R. Rudolph, the 36- year-old phantom survivalist who had been wanted for five years in connection with the bombing at the 1996 Olympics and attacks on abortion clinics, it is becoming clearer how fiercely loyal this community is to him, and how that might complicate the case.
With Mr. Rudolph in jail, the investigation is shifting to who in this rugged corner of western North Carolina might have helped him. And there may be no shortage of suspects.
While F.B.I. agents hacked their way through miles of rhododendron bushes today, trying to retrace the invisible man's footsteps, people here brazenly voiced their support of Mr. Rudolph, who is accused of bomb attacks that killed two bystanders and maimed dozens.
While most of his supporters cite his anti-abortion views, a popular stance in many rural, conservative areas, they gloss over the most notorious charge against Mr. Rudolph, that he set off a pipe bomb in a random crowd at the Summer Olympics.
"I didn't see him bomb nobody," said Hoke Henson, 77. "You can't always trust the feds."
If there is an antigovernment current here, coursing through the woods clear as a splashing brook or a pint of moonshine, it is nothing new. Tucked away in the foothills of Appalachia, surrounded by towering forests and fading mills, many people in the neighboring towns of Peachtree, Andrews, Murphy and Hanging Dog say they have always preferred to handle their own problems their own way, which may explain why nobody turned in Mr. Rudolph.
Mr. Rudolph, who once topped the Federal Bureau of Investigation's most wanted list, is accused of four bombings: the blast at the Olympics that killed one woman and injured more than 100 people; an attack on an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Ala., that killed an off- duty policeman; a bombing at an abortion center in Atlanta; and an attack at a gay nightclub, also in Atlanta.
Mr. Rudolph is scheduled to appear in federal court in Asheville, N.C., on Monday for a hearing to decide where he will go next. He faces more than 20 charges, some of which could carry the death penalty.
The authorities are also not saying what, if anything, Mr. Rudolph has revealed to investigators. On Saturday, the police said that Mr. Rudolph told them he had never left the Murphy area, as they had suspected, and that he felt relieved to no longer be on the run. Today, the authorities called off a morning news conference, sending the dozens of reporters who have converged on Murphy spilling into the sleepy streets to gather comments from churchgoers and photograph children licking ice cream.
Mr. Rudolph remained under tight guard, with SWAT team officers prowling the rooftop of the red brick jail in downtown Murphy where he is being held.
"We came just to get a picture," said Peggy Conley, as she sat with her son on a little hill overlooking the jail. "Look at those guns, honey."
The circumstances of Mr. Rudolph's arrest have raised questions. Ever since Mr. Rudolph, a former airborne soldier and a skilled woodsman, was named a suspect in 1998, the authorities concentrated on the woods in this part of the state, where Mr. Rudolph hiked and fished as a boy and reportedly grew marijuana as an adult. Hundreds of agents were deployed in one of the largest manhunts in the history of the F.B.I., rappelling down old mine shafts, scouring caves and scanning the ridge lines with heat-seeking military equipment.
But it was no scraggly mountain man who emerged on Saturday morning. When Mr. Rudolph was apprehended by a rookie police officer behind a Save-A-Lot grocery store in Murphy, he was relatively well groomed, in clean clothes and jogging shoes. He had two to three days' growth on his chin at most.
"He didn't look like he'd been living in the woods," said Officer Charles Kilby of the Murphy police. Agents shut down local highways today as they searched the woods for hideouts, caves or other signs of where Mr. Rudolph might have spent the last five years.
Norm Chandler, a retired lieutenant colonel in the Marines who teaches sniper courses in Moyock, N.C., said he suspected that Mr. Rudolph had been aided by underground white supremacists or marijuana growers known to have farms in the Carolina hills.
"He wasn't making sewing needles out of bear bone, or making clothes out of animal hides and living like the Iroquois," Mr. Chandler said. "I think he had a support group of people. Somebody probably bought food for him, too."
However, when Mr. Rudolph was arrested, he was scavenging produce from a Dumpster, suggesting he had no one bringing him food, at least not recently.
Some people in Murphy said they saw Mr. Rudolph lingering around the town square, just feet from the police department, the day before his arrest.
"He was just checking out the scene," said Stephanie Walters, a server at the Peachtree Restaurant, which Mrs. Howard owns. "I didn't know who he was until the next morning."
The authorities say Mr. Rudolph planted the 40-pound pipe bomb that ripped through a crowd on July 27, 1996, at the Olympic Park in Atlanta. The blast killed Alice Hawthorne, 44, a receptionist, and injured more than 100.
The next strike was on Jan. 16, 1997, when two bombs blew up outside the Northside Family Planning Service, an Atlanta-area clinic where doctors perform abortions. The explosions injured seven people.
Then on Feb. 21, a bomb detonated at the Otherside Lounge, a gay nightclub in Atlanta, injuring five people.
The last attack attributed to Mr. Rudolph was on Jan. 29, 1998, outside the New Woman All Women Health Care Center in Birmingham, Ala., which also provided abortions. The bombing killed Robert D. Sanderson, an off-duty police officer, and left Emily Lyons, a nurse, blind in one eye. A medical student said he saw Mr. Rudolph walking away from the Birmingham clinic. Investigators then got a tip from someone who spotted his license plate, and the chase was on. Around the same time, news organizations received letters linking the bombs to Christian Identity, a white supremacist group that operated from a compound near Murphy.
Mr. Rudolph was last sighted in July 1998, when he showed up at a friend's health food store in Andrews and walked off with cartons of food and vitamins.
No one in this area will say if they helped Mr. Rudolph hide. Aiding and abetting a fugitive is a federal offense.
But many said they would have.
"He was a man who stood for what he believed in," said Bo Newton, a short-order cook in Andrews. "If he came to my door, I would've given him food and never said a word."
[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/02/national/02BOMB.html]http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/02/national/02BOMB.html[/url]
2003-06-08 15:50 | User Profile
Kurt - Benji was detested by most of his Gentile contemporaries, north and South. He was given high office, though shuffled around, in order to keep the "European" finances flowing. Needless to say, his singular presence didn't compare to the influence wielded by his more numerous brethren in the north. Here's a recent piece by a fellow chosenite that contains some good between-the-lines info on the character of that "Southern devotee".
MAY 30, 2003
Justice, Guardian of Liberty By RUTH BADER GINSBURG
In 1993, the U.S. Supreme Court Historical Society sponsored a lecture series on the five Jewish Justices from Louis D. Brandeis to Abe Fortas. Absent from the series was an account of the man who might have preceded Brandeis by some 63 years as the first Jewish member of the Supreme Court, Judah P. Benjamin.
Born in 1811 in St. Croix in the Virgin Islands, the son of Sephardic Jews, Benjamin grew up in Charleston, S.C., and became a celebrated lawyer in antebellum New Orleans. Though his boyhood, unlike Brandeis's, was heavily steeped in Jewish culture, as an adult he married outside the faith in a Catholic ceremony, and he did not keep Jewish laws or celebrate Jewish holidays. Yet he could not escape his Jewish identity. The world in which he lived would not allow him to do that.
In 1853, President Millard Fillmore nominated Benjamin to become an Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court. Elected the preceding year as one of Louisiana's two U.S. Senators, Benjamin declined the High Court nomination. His preference for the Senate suggests that the Supreme Court had not yet become the co-equal Branch of Government it is today. Benjamin was the first acknowledged Jew to hold a Senate seat; he was elected, in 1858, to a second six- year term.
Benjamin is perhaps best known in the United States for his stirring orations in the pre-Civil War Senate on behalf of Southern interests ââ¬â orations expressing sentiments with which we would today no doubt disagree ââ¬â and later for his service as Attorney General, Secretary of War and, finally, Secretary of State in the Confederate Cabinet of Jefferson Davis.
Although Benjamin achieved high office, he lived through a time of virulent antisemitism in America. Political enemies called him "Judas Iscariot Benjamin." He was ridiculed for his Jewishness in the press, by military leaders on both sides ââ¬â Northern General Ulysses S. Grant and Southern General Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson ââ¬â and even by fellow Confederate politicians.
After the Confederate surrender, Benjamin fled to England; en route, he narrowly survived close encounters with victorious Union troops, rough waters and storms at sea. He arrived in London with little money and most of his property lost or confiscated. His Louisiana Creole wife and a daughter, reared Catholic, had long before settled in Paris; they anticipated continuing support from Benjamin in the comfortable style to which they had grown accustomed. He nevertheless resisted business opportunities in the French capital, preferring the independence of a law practice, this time as a British barrister.
Benjamin opted for a second career at the bar notwithstanding the requirement that he start over by enrolling as a student at an Inn of Court and serving an apprenticeship. This, Benjamin's contemporaries reported, he undertook cheerfully and with fabulous industry, although he was doubtless relieved when the Inn of Court to which he belonged, Lincoln's Inn, determined to admit him to full membership after six months, rather than the usual three years.
Benjamin became a British barrister at age 55. His situation at that mature stage of life closely paralleled conditions of his youth. He was a newly minted lawyer with a struggling practice, but, he wrote to a friend, "as much interested in my profession as when I first commenced as a boy."
Drawing on the knowledge of civilian systems gained during his practice in Louisiana, Benjamin produced a work in England that came to be known as "Benjamin on Sales." First published in 1868, the book was a near-instant legal classic. Its author was much praised, and Benjamin passed the remainder of his days as a top-earning, highly esteemed, mainly appellate advocate. He became a Queen's Counsel seven years after his admission to the bar. His voice was heard in appeals to the House of Lords and the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in no fewer than 136 reported cases between 1872 and 1882.
A biographer of Benjamin tells us that, "[h]owever desperate his case, Benjamin habitually addressed the court as if it were impossible for him to lose." This indomitable cast of mind characterized both Benjamin's courtroom advocacy and his response to fortune's vicissitudes. He rose to the top of the legal profession twice in one lifetime, on two continents, beginning his first ascent as a raw youth and his second as a fugitive minister of a vanquished power. The London Times, in an obituary, described Judah Benjamin as a man with "that elastic resistance to evil fortune which preserved [his] ancestors through a succession of exiles and plunderings."
[url=http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.05.30/oped1.html]http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.05.30/oped1.html[/url]
2003-06-09 18:46 | User Profile
Originally posted by Octopod@Jun 9 2003, 13:39 ** Great lyrics, TD. I don't think you'll hear those playing on MTV anytime soon. They're just way too ..... *American. * **
Johnny Russell, now dead, was a great singer/songwriter that was a mainstay for years at the Grand Ol' Opry.
He also wrote the song "Act Naturally" made famous by Buck Owens. That same song was mocked as being "square" by the black football player in the stomach-turning movie "Remember the Titans." It was the Motown stuff that was portrayed as cool and hip. Those crew-cut, redneck southern white boys just had to learn and grow. :thd:
2003-06-09 19:59 | User Profile
Originally posted by Octopod@Jun 9 2003, 12:54 They won't truly grow until they learn to fight for what is theirs. The only problem with "those crew-cut, redneck southern white boys" is that they're not "racist" enough.
:lol: