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Thread ID: 7125 | Posts: 12 | Started: 2003-06-04
2003-06-04 21:47 | User Profile
6-4-03
[color=red][SIZE=3]Stalin[/color][/SIZE]
'Birdman' Bryant's website says today:
"The latest issue of Barnes Review has a story on Stalin's ethnicity and presents additional information that he may have been a Jew. Thanks Lowell."
We have said before that we suspect that Stalin had some Jewish blood. How much Jewish blood? Who knows?
Why do we suspect this about Stalin?
a) if you have seen early photos of Stalin, he does display "that Jewish look" [here: [url=http://www.angelfire.com/ga/thoughtpolice/images/stalin.gif]http://www.angelfire.com/ga/thoughtpolice/...ages/stalin.gif[/url] ; not the clearest photo, but it'll do]. Note the 'lizard-like' appearance that Jews are famous for.
B] Stalin was short, and Jews are often shorter-than-average.
c) he had amazing cunning in his rule, in a ruthless way, and Jews are noted for that cunning.
d) as for Stalin being 'an anti-Semite,' some part-Jews dislike Jews as a group. He might also not have been aware of any Jewish blood within him, depending on various factors.
All in all, we suggest that Stalin was very possibly part-Jewish. Of course we can't prove it, and we don't mention it on our website -- although that feature may now change.
2003-06-04 22:02 | User Profile
3) Stalin was anti-Semitic. SOME Jews are anti-Semitic, therefore Stalin is Jewish! Yeah, this is the most convincing argument of all...his anti-Semitism is actually proof that he's Jewish? Absolutely brilliant.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
2003-06-04 22:03 | User Profile
I am no fan of Stalin, but I must say that this is one of the weakest arguments for him being Jewish that I've ever seen.
Of course many of his top advisors and excutioners were Jewish.
2003-06-04 22:04 | User Profile
The conflict Stalin had with the Jews was actually a coflict between rival groups of Jews, not Jews and Russians.
Stalin was a Georgian and his wife was a Jew.
2003-06-04 22:30 | User Profile
Note that I said "part-Jewish." Maybe 1/2, 1/4. Not wholly Jewish.
2003-06-04 22:57 | User Profile
Originally posted by heritagelost@Jun 4 2003, 16:04 ** The conflict Stalin had with the Jews was actually a coflict between rival groups of Jews, not Jews and Russians. **
Yes, I often get sick and tired of telling that to certain misguided Russian nationalists who see Stalin as some sort of "pro-Russian" leader.
2003-06-05 01:45 | User Profile
heritagelost:
**Stalin was a Georgian and his wife was a Jew. **
And his mother was a laundress. Not too many washerwomen JAPs in Georgia or anywhere else.
However, Stalin had three wives, all of them Jewesses. The first was Ekaterina Svanidze who bore him one son, Jacob. His second wife was Kadya Allevijah. She bore him a son Vassili and a daughter Svetlana. His second wife died in mysterious circumstances, either by committing suicide or murdered by Stalin. His third wife was Rosa Kaganovich, (Kruschev's wife was yet another Kaganovitch) the sister of the notorious Lazar Kaganovich. Yiddish was the language spoken in Stalin and Rosa Kaganovichââ¬â¢s household.
Stalin [along with Lenin] instituted Hate Crime laws early on in the officially atheistic Soviet Union, one of the first was the outlawing and criminalizing of any anti-Jewish speech or writings.
Stalin supported the founding of Israel in 1948 and even provided the Israelis with the weapons they used to win their first war.
Biologically maybe he wasnââ¬â¢t, but culturally he was very ... Jewish.
2003-06-05 23:26 | User Profile
** Octopod wrote:
So I don't have to worry about claustrophobic encounters with synchronistic Jew entities or whatever spooks you into writing all your infamous crap. Whatever you have to do, just get some fresh air.
For God's sake, man. **
This from a guy who thinks Christians will save us from Jews. Bwa-ha-ha-ha!
Also, I did not say that Stalin might be part-Jew "just because he was short."
Go read yer Bible. It's full of good stuff...like Marxist equality...
2003-06-06 00:08 | User Profile
AntiYuppie wrote:> Of course, Stalin was not a "Russian Nationalist" because he was not Russian, but he was by no means a philo-Semite. If anything, he was for the first and bloodiest decade of his rule little more than a puppet of Jewish Bolsheviks, and only later when he started acting independently did his "anti-Semitic" sentiments emerge. Rumor has it that is when Kaganovich and others conspired with Stalin's Jewish doctors to eliminate him. ** Time made Stalin change his mind. In war he found communism did not sufficiently motivate his people, but nationalism did. From my book:> On August 9, 1945 at 10 minutes after midnight the Soviet attack commenced without artillery preparation and was executed as violently as any attack on the western front. On August 14 the Japanese government announced surrender, but the Soviets have insisted the Kwantung army did not surrender until August 19. As late as August 18 the Red army was making parachute drops on Harbin, Mukden and other Manchurian industrial centers. It must be noted that when Soviet troops entered Port Arthur they stood bareheaded and bowed before the monument erected for the Czarist Russian defenders of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904. One older Soviet remarked the defeat by Japan had weighed on Russian history like a dark blot. The Russian people had waited for the chance to avenge this insult. "For forty years we of the older generation have waited for this day. Now this day has come.", so said the Russian nationalist convert, Joseph Stalin, on September 2, 1945. The results and consequences of this limited ten day offensive still have managed to inspire awe in those who study these things.**
2003-06-06 02:17 | User Profile
I do not care if Stalin was jew or not.
Joe Stalin was the most evil head of state in the History of European Civilization!!!
2003-06-06 02:51 | User Profile
AY:
Where did you get your information? From what I know Stalin's son in law (husband to the daughter of Stalin's second marriage) was a Jew and that Stalin strongly disapproved of the union. To my knowledge, Stalin never married a Jewess (otherwise, why would he frown upon his daughter marrying a Tribesman?)
[url=http://abbc.com/zionism/#stalin]http://abbc.com/zionism/#stalin[/url]
Why did the Zionists allow Stalin in, and why did they not eliminate him at the very outset or at a later date? Because he deceived them! They thought he was one of theirs. Alliluyeva, his second wife, was a Jewess. At the beginning of his career as Secretary General of the Party, Stalin surrounded himself with Jews. Until 1937 it was not obvious that Stalin's chief goal was to liquidate Zionism in the Soviet Union. Even after 1937, Stalin gave the impression of having no claims upon the Zionists: Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich, whose very name made him a convenient cover for Stalin against any accusations of antisemitism, was one of Stalin's closest aides and outlived him by many years. Nevertheless, the Zionists outplayed Stalin in this regard, following an age-old practice of theirs: whatever may happen, and however many Jews may be sacrificed, the main point is that at least one Zionist must remain at the very top. He will then be able to revive the Zionist cause. This is what Kaganovich actually did after the death of Stalin, and he had, though very cautiously, already been engaged on this matter during World War Two and the post-war years. Also: [url=http://www.jameswickstrom.com/jews_and_bolshevism.html]http://www.jameswickstrom.com/jews_and_bolshevism.html[/url] [url=http://heretical.com/miscella/bolshies.html]http://heretical.com/miscella/bolshies.html[/url]
AY:
The way I interpret the "Stalin years" is as follows: Jews like Kaganovich, Yagoda, Ehrenburg, etc. needed a gentile, easily manipulable figurehead to hold the post after Lenin's death. They chose Stalin for the position with the hope that they could buy his cooperation by working with him to eliminate the Trotsky faction, but after the first decade or so, Stalin started to act independently, i.e. making a pact with Hitler, removing Jews from visible positions of power, and even advocating the mass deportation of Tribesmen in Russia and other Soviet Republics to a Siberian "Jewish Republic."
[url=http://www.jameswickstrom.com/jews_and_bolshevism.html]http://www.jameswickstrom.com/jews_and_bolshevism.html[/url]
In January, 1924, Lenin died from causes variously described as 'a heart attack,' brain hemorrhage' and 'syphilis.' His comrades immediately began fighting amongst themselves to see who was to become his successor.
A relative outsider, Joseph Stalin, came to the fore and purged all competition either by exiling or executing them. Since Stalin was not Jewish, yet nearly all his opponents were, it is often suggested that Stalin was anti-Semitic. This is far from the truth.
AY:
Of course, Stalin was not a "Russian Nationalist" because he was not Russian, but he was by no means a philo-Semite. If anything, he was for the first and bloodiest decade of his rule little more than a puppet of Jewish Bolsheviks, and only later when he started acting independently did his "anti-Semitic" sentiments emerge. Rumor has it that is when Kaganovich and others conspired with Stalin's Jewish doctors to eliminate him. ****
[url=http://www.seanbryson.com/articles/prop_masters.html]http://www.seanbryson.com/articles/prop_masters.html[/url]
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
[url=http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/kaganovich.html]http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/kaganovich.html[/url]
The Death of Stalin, by Georges Bertoli, and The Death of Stalin: An Investigation by "Monitor" (this book shows that Stalin was overthrown by a coup d'etat:
The fact is, that Stalin died within 7 weeks of the Doctors' Plot being announced: January 13, 1953: Tass announced the discovery of a terrorist group of poisoning doctors (Radzinsky, p. 539).
February 8, 1953: Pravda published the names of Jewish saboteurs etc. February 11, 1953: the USSR severed diplomatic relations with Israel (Yosef Govrin, Israeli-Soviet Relations 1953-1967, pp. 3-4). End of February, 1953: rumors went around Moscow that the Jews were to be deported to Siberia (Radzinsky, p. 542), with March 5 rumoured to be the date when this would happen (p. 546}. Radzinsky claims that Stalin was inviting war with America, the home of Zionism and world finance, over this issue, because America was dominated by Zionist financiers (p. 543). March 5, 1953: Stalin declared dead.
[Some of sources believe that real power in the USSR resided with Kaganovich and company and that Stalin was just the frontman.]
2003-06-06 03:24 | User Profile
seq,
Great Posts! Stalin did more to advance marxism than any other leader.
"Stalin supported the founding of Israel in 1948 and even provided the Israelis with the weapons they used to win their first war."
Does not seem like someone who was "anti-Semitic" would do such.