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Kurt [OP]

2003-06-01 11:52 | User Profile

[SIZE=2]Tearful Bush and Wife Pay Solemn Visit to Nazi Death Camps: "So Sad"[/SIZE] :crybaby:

[url=http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAWGPCTDGD.html]AP News ^[/url] | May 31, 2003 | Tom Raum Associated Press Writer

OSWIECIM, Poland (AP) - President Bush passed under Auschwitz gate's chillingly misleading proclamation that "work makes you free" to pay tearful tribute Saturday to the victims of Nazi death camps. "Never forget," he exhorted.

Bush and his wife, Laura, spent nearly two hours touring the Auschwitz and Birkenau extermination camps, the president calling them "a monument to the darkest impulses of man."

The Bushes saw long-abandoned baby shoes, Jewish prayer shawls, battered suitcases, artificial limbs and other items that belonged to those who passed through Auschwitz's gate not to earn their freedom but to die.

They saw masses of hair shorn from victims for shipment to German textile makers, who would weave it into clothing.

They saw the tiny cell once inhabited by Nobel Prize laureate Elie Wiesel in his boyhood.

They read a sign that said, in German, "Jews are a race that must be totally exterminated."

Bush periodically wiped tears from his eyes, exhaling deeply at one point as if to compose himself and later pulling out a handkerchief as he and the first lady walked through the complex. The crunching of gravel underfoot and the quiet narration of their tour guide were almost the only sounds.

More than 1.5 million Jews and tens of thousands of others were killed at Auschwitz and Birkenau, about 50 miles west of the Polish capital of Krakow, where Bush delivered a speech on U.S.-European relations and the war on terrorism.

At Auschwitz, now a museum, the Bushes walked through the interior of a gas chamber and paused at a brick crematorium where Mrs. Bush laid a long-stemmed rose on the cast-iron gurney once used to roll bodies into the ovens.

They helped lay wreaths at both camps- against a brick wall at Auschwitz marking a site where prisoners were once lined up and shot, and where the railroad tracks into Birkenau abruptly end. It was literally the end of the line for trainload upon trainload of victims of the Third Reich.

On either side of the railhead were the remains of crematoriums blown up by the Germans as they fled the camps ahead of advancing allied armies.

Looking at the rubble in bright sunshine, Bush told reporters: "The sites are a sobering reminder of the power of evil and the need for people to resist evil."

Bush's tour of the camps was designed to underscore his oft-repeated message that evil never again should be left unchecked. But the president seemed shaken, and his observations were mostly terse: "powerful," "so sad," "all the little baby shoes."

In a guest book, Bush's words had already been written in flowing script: "Thank you sincerely for a deeply moving tour, and dedicating your lives to preserving the memory of the Holocaust and the martyrdom of Poles. You honor all who are victims here. May your work inspire future generations to stand ever vigilant against the return of such unspeakable evil to our world."

To that he added, "Never forget" in his own handwriting and signed his name.

Later, in a speech at Krakow's Wawel Royal Castle square, Bush told his audience he had visited "a place where evil found its willing servants and its innocent victims."

Bush quoted Wiesel, recalling on a return visit many years after his first night in the camp: "I asked myself, God, is this the end of your people, the end of mankind, the end of the world?"

Said Bush: "With every murder a world was ended."

ÃÂ© AP News 2003

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Sisyfos

2003-06-01 15:42 | User Profile

...the Bushes walked through the interior of a gas chamber and paused at a brick crematorium where Mrs. Bush laid a long-stemmed rose on the cast-iron gurney once used to roll bodies into the ovens

;) :blink: :shock: Is Tommy talking about the shower rooms?

Blond Knight

2003-06-01 16:26 | User Profile

This worship ceremony at the most sacred altar of the hollyco$t should be worth hundreds of millions of $ for the chimps re-election campaign.

I wonder if the chimp gives two hoots about the genocide that he has perpetrated against the people of Iraq? Or does he give a flying fig about the use of U.S. $$$ to pay for Schmuel's aparthied and misstreatment of the Palestinians?

Seems that the chimp isn't about to make the same mistakes as Boosh1 by pissing off the Jews. Expect nonstop kosher groveling from here to the 2004 election.

The Skunk

2003-06-01 21:27 | User Profile

Golly Ghee whiz - I just love Holocaust stories. Here is a good one I vant to share.

From a Holocaust site

In the horse stable a measuring device of the type used in a doctor's office was put on the wall. A narrow slot in the device allowed the executioner to shoot the prisoner in the neck from a booth behind the wall.

According to the guide book " military marches sounded through the building" to drown out the noise of the shots.

The dead bodies were removed in large galvanized containers, an example of which is on display in the pathology lab next to the crematorium.

The horse stable was torn down by the Soviet Union, but the measuring stick has been recreated in the pathology lab in the crematorium for the benefit of tourists. The first picture below shows the reconstruction of the measuring stick on the wall and the second picture shows the reconstruction of the shooting booth behind it.

A movie shown at the Sachsenhausen camp explains that the prisoner was told to stand with his back against the wall a few feet away from the measuring device, and then side step until he was in front of the device.

This prevented the victim from noticing the obvious slit in the measuring device and becoming aware of the gun pointed at him from behind the wall.

Measuring device with slit through which shots were fired

Slit in wall behind measuring device - Shooting closet

" Oy Vey - What monsters

--- ### Robbie *2003-06-01 21:35* | [User Profile](/od/user/69) So I guess Shrub didn't have some free time while in Eastern Europe to visit the ol' Gulag, huh?? --- ### Faust *2003-06-01 23:03* | [User Profile](/od/user/60) **Hey guys, Jorge Bush is just looking place over to get ideas for Guantanamo Bay.** [img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39104000/jpg/_39104538_torture_afp200.jpg[/img] Bush shops for supplies to use at Guantanamo Bay. "How much for these?" said Bush. US(Neocon) death camp to open at Guantanamo Bay! [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=8120]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...t=ST&f=5&t=8120[/url] "Moves Made to Kick-off Military Tribunals" [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=8251]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...t=ST&f=7&t=8251[/url] The Gulag: Commusism's Penal Colonies Revisited [url=http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php?act=ST&f=11&t=7610]http://forum.originaldissent.com/index.php...=ST&f=11&t=7610[/url] --- ### N.B. Forrest *2003-06-02 09:03* | [User Profile](/od/user/53) "Krematorium? Nein - das ist die Auschwitz wasser slide! Hop on, y'all!" [img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39104000/jpg/_39104538_torture_afp200.jpg[/img] --- ### MadScienceType *2003-06-02 17:06* | [User Profile](/od/user/242) > **Bush periodically wiped tears from his eyes, exhaling deeply at one point as if to compose himself and later pulling out a handkerchief as he and the first lady walked through the complex.** Later, Bush became fussy, and the tour was suspended briefly to allow the President's handlers time to change his diapers. --- ### Rumblestrip *2003-06-02 19:28* | [User Profile](/od/user/421) *sniff* how touching... :hit: If I were a brainwashed TV junkie, I might almost believe that Dubya actually cares. --- ### Texas Dissident *2003-06-02 19:31* | [User Profile](/od/user/1) > *Originally posted by MadScienceType*@Jun 2 2003, 12:06 **> **Bush periodically wiped tears from his eyes, exhaling deeply at one point as if to compose himself and later pulling out a handkerchief as he and the first lady walked through the complex.** Later, Bush became fussy, and the tour was suspended briefly to allow the President's handlers time to change his diapers. ** ROTFLMBO!! :lol: :lol: :lol: --- ### Robbie *2003-06-03 01:27* | [User Profile](/od/user/69) How could you forget the reaction of the Fweepahs to this touching piece of journalism?? [url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/920874/posts]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/920874/posts[/url] :drool: --- ### Cracker of the Whip *2003-06-03 02:11* | [User Profile](/od/user/409) I canÃ¢â¬â¢t wait till he visits the ex White owned farms of Zimbabwe for a photo op and political recognition of the ongoing massacres there. --- ### Robbie *2003-06-03 02:14* | [User Profile](/od/user/69) > *Originally posted by Cracker of the Whip*@Jun 3 2003, 02:11 ** I canÃ¢â¬â¢t wait till he visits the ex White owned farms of Zimbabwe for a photo op and political recognition of the ongoing massacres there. ** Maybe he should let Colin and Condi go there instead. :afro: --- ### Kurt *2003-06-03 14:20* | [User Profile](/od/user/387) > **How could you forget the reaction of the Fweepahs to this touching piece of journalism?? [url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/920874/posts]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/920874/posts[/url]** Yeah, those freepers never cease to amuse me... > **Thanks for the post. It is so comforting to know we have a loving and caring president and first lady! Such a sad site for them to visit but very important so this never happens again! -- I find myself saying this a lot while this President is in office...I am disappointed in his lukewarm Conservatism, but W is a genuine, honest man who one can't help but admire. -- From the beginning you always get the impression that he does what he thinks is right, and couldn't give a rat's @ss about what anyone else says or does. And he fights for what's right. That is an admirable trait that is missing from our moral relativist generation. -- We are honored to have President Bush and his wife, Laura, as our first couple! -- But the president seemed shaken, and his observations were mostly terse: "powerful," "so sad," "all the little baby shoes." I love this president. -- Does anyone remember if any other President since Eisenhower has toured the Death Camps? -- I think it was a righteous move by Bush. Europeans spend a lot of time telling tourists to skip these "negative reminders of the past" and to concentrate instead on decaying castles and Euro Disneyland. Stick it to 'em, George. -- Thanks for posting this. If anyone has a chance to visit D.C. a visit to the Holocaust Memorial would be worthwhile. -- *It still has nothing to do with America. There is no lesson their that America needs to learn. It was built here for what reason?* Actually, it has everything to do with America. If not for America, then the holocaust would have been successful: Germany would have won the war, and every "untermensch" (Jews, Gypsies, Blacks, etc...) on the face of the earth, would have been murdered. There is no lesson for America to learn, but this is the only place, with the possible exception of Israel, that the museum could have been built. Continental Europe does its best to hide these things away, ignoring the painful past until what they ignore resurfaces. By being in America, they can't hide it or ignore it. Mark** -- Who needs *Comedy Central* when you've got Freeper Central? :lol: :lol: :lol: --- ### 2600 *2003-06-03 14:42* | [User Profile](/od/user/346) Speaking of the Freeper reaction, I REALLY liked this one... > **I'm barely consoled by the knowlege that we turned the might of our nation upon those perpetrators. Surely killing 8 million Germans brought some small level of retribution for their crimes.** Typically vomit-inducing neo-con garbage....and really you CAN gloat over killing Germans, but I wouldn't mention how many of them were killed....might cause some people to, you know, feel sympathy for the Germans, as opposed to those poor Jews. --- ### amundsen *2003-06-04 02:20* | [User Profile](/od/user/5) > **The Bushes saw long-abandoned baby shoes, **Jewish prayer shawls**, battered suitcases, artificial limbs and other items that belonged to those who passed through Auschwitz's gate not to earn their freedom but to die.** You have to always mention that. Remember, they are a religion, not a race. And I'm sure the Jews, always so thoughtful of others, willingly gave up their shawls lest their piety offend the many Polish Catholics also imprisoned. ---