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Franco [OP]

2003-05-31 20:12 | User Profile

5-31-03

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We watched Alfred Hitchcock's 1945 movie "Spellbound" last night. Was it good? Yes. It was also chock full o' sheenie goodness.

We knew that we might be in trouble with "Spellbound" when we saw that top Jew David O. "Let's rewrite 'Gone With the Wind' to make it more PC" Selznick had a hand in it. And we were right. In fact, 2 major Jewish ideas are at the forefront of "Spellbound": psychoanalysis [1] and feminism [2]. But we doubt if Hitchcock was aware of that Jewishness at the time.

Yep, America really is a Jewish-heavy country: first, the inscription at the base of the Statue of Liberty [by Jewess Emma Lazarus], then Bugs Bunny [voice of Jewish guy Mel Blanc], then Batman [Bob Kane], Dear Abbie [t/n Friedman] and Fonzie [actor Henry Winkler]. Even our sex gurus are Jewish [Dr. Ruth Westheimer].

Shouldn't America be renamed "Jewmerica?"

[1] Dr. Kevin MacDonald, in his 1998 book "The Culture of Critique," notes that the bogus psychoanalysis movement was created by Jews, notably Sigmund Freud; pages 109 ff, hardcover.

[2] Here is a list of some of the Jewish founders and leaders of the modern feminist revolution. Keep in mind that this list is by no means complete--these women are simply the more well-known within the feminist movement; thousands of lesser-known Jewish women lead local and obscure feminist groups1:


-Gloria Steinem (1934- ); founder, Ms. Magazine.

-Bella Abzug (1920-1998); Civil rights and labor attorney elected to Congress (House of Rep.) from New York City; served 1971-1977.

-Betty Friedan (1921- ); feminist leader and author of the book "The Feminine Mystique" (1963).

-Shulamith Firestone (1945- ); Canadian feminist. Wrote "The Dialectic of Sex" (1970).

-Andrea Dworkin (1946- ); radical; apparent lesbian. Author of the book "Intercourse" (1987).

-Susan Brownmiller (1935- ); U.S. feminist. Wrote the book "Against Our Will" (1975).

-Susan Faludi (1959- ); author of the book "Backlash" (1992).

-Naomi Wolf (1962- ); advisor to Al Gore in the 2000 U.S. presidential election.

-Emma Goldman (1869-1940); early U.S. feminist.

-Ernestine Rose (1810-1892); b. in Poland; early feminist.

-Phyllis Chesler (1941- ); U.S. feminist; author of the book "Woman's Inhumanity to Woman" (2002).

-Judy Chicago (Cohen) (1939- ); U.S. feminist. Author of the book "The Dinner Party" (1996).

-Robin Morgan (1941- ); U.S. feminist. Former editor-in-chief, Ms. magazine.

-Letty Cottin Pogrebin (1939- ); U.S. feminist; co-founded Ms. magazine.

-Gerda Lerner (1920- ); b. in Austria.

-Annie Nathan Meyer (1867-1951); U.S. feminist.

-Maud Nathan (1862-1946); sister of Annie Nathan Meyer; U.S. feminist.

-Geri Palast (1950- ); chair, Committee on Women in the Global Economy; U.S. feminist.

-Rose Schneiderman (1882-1972); b. in Poland.

-Anita Pollitzer (1894-1975); U.S. feminist; pal of artist Georgia O'Keeffe.

-Gene Boyer (no birthyear available); a founder of N.O.W.; president of Jewish Feminists; U.S. feminist.

-Lucy Komisar (1942- ); author of the book "The New Feminism" (1971); U.S. feminist.

-Karen Nussbaum (1950- ); (apparently Jewish); leader of 9to5-National Association of Working Women.

-Eleanor Flexner (1908-1995); (apparently Jewish--relative is a Zionist); U.S. feminist.

-Riane Eisler (1931- ); b. Vienna; author/feminist; (apparently Jewish--fled Nazis). Author of the book "The Chalice and the Blade" (1987).

Notes

[1] Sources include Jewish author Dr. Joshua Halberstam's book "Schmoozing," 1997, Perigee; also web searches.


Kurt

2003-06-01 12:46 | User Profile

Bob Kane is a jew? Aw crap. Aren't there any goys in the comic industry?


The Skunk

2003-06-01 21:30 | User Profile

Oh God - This Franco is such a monster.


Roy Batty

2003-06-02 21:33 | User Profile

Originally posted by Kurt@Jun 1 2003, 04:46 ** Bob Kane is a jew? Aw crap. Aren't there any goys in the comic industry? **

The co-creator of Spiderman is a "gentile"(Steve Ditko) - that's one reason you don't hear too much about him. He also shuns publicity. Couple that with Smiln' Stan Lee (jew) of Marvel who never hesitated to take full credit for the creation of anything and everything in the "Marvel Universe", and you pretty much have a jew getting or taking credit for Spiderman, The Fantastic Four, The Hulk, Thor ... DC the same with Kane and Batman, Superman (I'm sure most OD'ers know the story of Kal El etc, hehehehe).

There is always Todd MacFarlane to look to. In the industry, he is an object of jew jealousy, believe me.


Kurt

2003-06-02 22:02 | User Profile

**The co-creator of Spiderman is a "gentile"(Steve Ditko) - that's one reason you don't hear too much about him.

There is always Todd MacFarlane to look to.  In the industry, he is an object of jew jealousy, believe me.**

I wasn't sure whether or not Ditko was a jew; I know Jack Kirby is. Yeah, how could I forget about Todd. Not sure about Frank Miller, or Matt Wagner though. <_<


Roy Batty

2003-06-02 22:18 | User Profile

Frank Miller isn't a jew, believe it or not. He's your run of the mill, very lapsed Catholic. I don't know about Wagner. The jews have been very careful to try and retain control of the comics industry as a tool of propaganda. The non-jews made their first headway as artists, because most jewish artists aren't all that great, it just isn't something in which the tribe generally excels. The jews were forced to use the non-jewish artists, because their artwork sold more comics, something which isn't generally mentioned. Many jews in the industry had a sh*t fit when MacFarland, Jim Lee (who's Korean) and some others broke away in order to gain some creator and creative control over their characters and titles, and to make the money they were capable of making. The jewish "houses" were notoriously crappy in their payments to most artists, and non-jewish writers.


il ragno

2003-06-02 22:26 | User Profile

The comic book industry has always been rife with em. The comic book industry, remember, had its roots as a cheapjack exploitation business: they began as a third-rate reprint forum for popular newspaper comic strips, printed on the cheapest pulp and marketed expressly to kids with characters they already were familiar with, like Little Orphan Annie and Barney Google.

When they switched to producing new material in the late 30s, it was via the sweatshop method: "bullpens" of young untrained artists cranking out substandard work at the cheapest page rates for comic-art sweatshops that then jobbed the pages out to fly-by-night publishers, many of them barely a notch about criminals. Kirby, in his twenties, was turning out ten finished pages of art a day in the 40s! (In fairness, it must be said that - although virtually every publisher was Jewish - a lot of that 'exploited talent' was, too.)

The money and working conditions improved over the years but the same ethic prevails - shovelling out substandard formula entertainment to kids. There have been notable exceptions, of course, but not very many.

The first half of the last century was instead dominated by the newspaper/syndicate daily strip, a completely different animal and one guided by mentors like WR Hearst and Joseph Patterson of the Chicago Tribune. Though the decline of the daily strip preceded the general decline of the daily newspaper by a few decades, the level of craft, artistry and sophistication was far far higher in the strips. There are a number of reprint volumes of vintage comic strips around: they are highly recommended as examples of what was once the standard for the medium before the Stan Lees of the world fastened their tentacles on comics.


Roy Batty

2003-06-02 22:53 | User Profile

Il Ragno, I was going to delve into the history of comics as you did, then went "Nah, they'll get bored." However, if people want to see what the quality of the dailies were like, before they became fully judaized, they should look at the artwork displayed by Alex Raymond in the old Flash Gordon strips, as well as work by Hal Foster (Prince Valiant), any art by Reed Crandall, etc. While many of the talents exploited early on were jewish, there were also rumblings that there was a double standard in pay, with the jewish toilers grabbing an extra few bucks on the sly for their efforts. Kirby was a very big deal, but I was never a fan of his artwork - although as a joke, in HS I would put together posters and drawings that made fun of various students and teachers - done in the easily recognizable Kirby style of flying crotch and flat fingertips. Then I got caught. But it was fun.

Were you a bit of a comics hound as a youngster Il Ragno?


il ragno

2003-06-03 01:20 | User Profile

A fair bit. As a kid I was drawn to horror & adventure-type comics as opposed to the Marvel-standard superhero. Part of it was I didn't care for the Lee/Kirby template: I preferred the Mike Kalutas, John Severins and Bernie Wrightsons who had unique, individual drawing styles and who almost never did superhero books.

It was later on that I began discovering the classic strips and I was just knocked out. Popular art at its zenith; loose, free and creative in a way that the assembly-line comic book would rarely, if ever, match. (And, Roy, while there's no denying the supreme technical mastery of Alex Raymond & Hal Foster, lemme raise a glass to the 'mere' humor & slapstick strips. They all - through their various individual perspectives, be it photorealistically or broadly caricatured - reflected the world around them far more honestly & accurately than The Hulk hitting The Thing over the head with an uprooted apartment building.)

Though they've been swamped by the same Jew culture-of-death themes as all Western art in the past generation, I must also offer a guarded thumbs-up to European comics....most of which are also leagues above the Marvel-type junk just based on the artwork alone. There is more graphic brilliance in a single old Tintin strip by Herge than in the entire run of THE FANTASTIC FOUR.


Roy Batty

2003-06-03 03:36 | User Profile

Il Ragno, you'd be surprised how closely your experience parallels my own - and the same goes for your tastes/remarks on the strips. Wrightson was, excuse me, is a superb artist who never received the acclaim so many of his hack contemporaries did. John Severin is a real character.

BTW, I have a hard cover collection of Herge's Adventures of Tin Tin, along with a collection of Kaluta's work, hehehe. Ol' King Kirby got the press and the breaks, but even as a kid, I looked at his work and ideas as second rate. I won't get into how he and Lee worked the same tired yahoodi themes into their stories, as I'm sure you and most others have already had your share of bemused smirks while taking a gander at them.

Then again, I was a big fan of The Far Side.


il ragno

2003-06-03 08:26 | User Profile

Hey Roy, have ya bookmarked this one?:

[url=http://www.lambiek.net/artists/index.htm]http://www.lambiek.net/artists/index.htm[/url]

Invaluable. The better comic-book guys, plus nearly every major newspaper-strip figure and European talent in the field. Plus links, where they exist.


Roy Batty

2003-06-04 00:13 | User Profile

Yes, Il Ragno. I've been there, a fantastic site! I'm glad I'm not the only one with interest in this stuff!


Roy Batty

2003-06-04 01:53 | User Profile

An amusing side note I forgot to mention in my earlier post; if you go to lambiek.net and take a look at the bio of Frank Frazetta, there's a comic panel at the bottom of the page with some funny, in a corny way, description and dialogue. The fellow in the panel who apparently has murder on his mind is ... Frazetta himself. It's an obvoius self portrait. Probably was an inside joke. Frazetta was always one of my favorites in terms of this kind of art because he almost never used references, creating his paintings straight from his imagination.

A docu/bio on Frazetta will soon be released on DVD, if you're interested. He's a nutcase. A talented nutcase. At least I think so.


Campion Moore Boru

2003-06-04 01:57 | User Profile

What, no Allan Moore? The man who made Dredd? As opposed to the Stallone abortion that ruined it?

Just found out the Depp flick "From Hell" was based on his graphic novel.

As to Kane, I think you are a bit rough. The early Batmans were about a hardcore vigilante who packed a gun and offed the reprobates of society. Repackaged for the kiddies in the 70s- as "The Punisher".

Neal Adams?............


Roy Batty

2003-06-04 02:05 | User Profile

I was concentrating on Americans. Moore is a Brit. However, I will go with you in agreeing the film was terrible, but thank the studios. Apparently the script as written was great, then the studio folks put their fingers in the pie, and wouldn't leave it alone, endless edits, changes, etc. When that happens, you always get a mess.

Neal Adams, a talented artist. I just never liked most of the titles he worked on. He did say that if superheroes really existed, they would look the way he drew them. He's probably right. Unfortunately, he was trapped working on the very PC Green Lantern/Green Arrow team up that went out of its way to show the injustices inflicted on our black brothers (among other social problems) by whitey. Blecchh.

There are a lot of talented people out there ... but that would require a new thread to discuss them, and I'm not sure OD is the place. Unless we approach each facet of the industry from the political angle. Some might say there is no other angle.

Yes, "From Hell" was based on the graphic novel. "The Road to Perdition" was based on a graphic novel as well.


Kurt

2003-06-04 04:55 | User Profile

Yes, "From Hell" was based on the graphic novel.  "The Road to Perdition" was based on a graphic novel as well.

Also the upcoming [url=http://us.imdb.com/Title?0311429]The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen[/url].

Thanks for all the info guys. Where else but on OD can you get neo-con watch and comix. :D