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toddbrendanfahey [OP]

2003-05-30 20:06 | User Profile

ODers,

Not really a sticky wicket, in my eyes. But am asking your counsel:

What if you were to have learned that a particular (& vocal) British socialist is residing illegally in the U.S.? Would you drop dime on the sucker, or not?

That's my question.

Best,

TBF


JAT

2003-05-30 20:23 | User Profile

I think the dime would be better spent on reporting a Mexican, Puerto Rican, or Guatemalan.


Texas Dissident

2003-05-30 20:28 | User Profile

Originally posted by toddbrendanfahey@May 30 2003, 15:06 ** What if you were to have learned that a particular (& vocal) British socialist is residing illegally in the U.S.? **

"British" doesn't exactly classify someone the way it used to, if you know what I mean. Kinda like saying, 'Californian.'


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 20:52 | User Profile

"JAT":

Mebbe you didn't hear me clearly. The operative word was "socialist." Strident socialist. Yeah, the person's white, but the ideology is what I (& most of this forum) would/should object to.

So, again, I ask....


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 21:08 | User Profile

bump to "AntiYuppie" and "PaleoconAvatar." What say you?


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 21:37 | User Profile

Well, let's see: He hates Sam Francis with a vengeance. Refers to the JBS as "kooks." Says McCarthy was a "vicious censor."

Want more?


Texas Dissident

2003-05-30 21:40 | User Profile

Originally posted by toddbrendanfahey@May 30 2003, 16:37 ** Well, let's see: He hates Sam Francis with a vengeance. Refers to the JBS as "kooks." Says McCarthy was a "vicious censor."

Want more? **

No, that tells me all I need to know.

You two still going at it, Todd?


seq

2003-05-30 21:45 | User Profile

Says McCarthy was a "vicious censor."

Drop that dime!


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 21:48 | User Profile

You two still going at it, Todd?

ho ho...

Not really. I'm legal and legit in South Korea (have proper visa certification; AOK on immigration status). But by all indications, he's playing duck & run in Amerika. Just wondering whether to give him a whack in the balls, that's all.

Wondering what you'd all advise. Cd be done in 2.2 nanoseconds, and I've given him ample warning, but he seems to want to play it the hard way.

Lemme gno, all ye. :)

TBF


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 21:52 | User Profile

Here's the thread which set it all off (this new incursion).

Y'alls $.02 appreciated.


Texas Dissident

2003-05-30 21:54 | User Profile

Originally posted by AntiYuppie@May 30 2003, 16:50 ** This isn't our good buddy "jjbrouwer" by any chance, is it? If it is, I certainly won't be heartbroken to see him shipped out of the US. **

Yeah, but I thought he was the mastermind behind the new Free Republic sucks website. I could be wrong.

All in all, I have a hard time getting worked up over a illegal, white, albeit socialist Englishman here in the States when thousands and thousands of Mexicans and Central Americans are pouring across our Southern border each and every day. At least the former speaks English, even if it may sound a little funny.


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 21:59 | User Profile

Yeah, but I thought he was the mastermind behind the new Free Republic sucks website. I could be wrong.

The limey-in-question was nowhere near founding FreeRepublicSucks. That was "Edgar Hall": aka "DarthSidious," who's actually a pretty ok guy.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-30 22:11 | User Profile

Texas D:

I have no connection with the FR Sucks site.

It is sad that someone as stupid and pathetic as Todd Fahey would post suh an unpleasant thread.

But I guess we're used to this sort of crap from that f*cking spastic...


jjbrouwer

2003-05-30 22:12 | User Profile

suh = such

Todd = twat


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 22:16 | User Profile

jj: You'd have gained a whole lot more currency here if you WERE to've been the guy who started "FreeRepublicSucks.com."

But you're too witless to understand these things.

In any event, you're not denying that you're an illegal alien on U.S. soil. Suck to be you, huh? :)


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 22:19 | User Profile

& now you're famous.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-30 22:35 | User Profile

Good.

Please keep these stalker threads up.

I have a five year visa and am looking forward to suing your arse off.

This is not the first time you have been caught posting lies. You posted some very unpleasant "information" about Rush Limbaugh which I have also saved. Fortunately, Rush is pals with a friend of mine and we are looking forward to the imminent libel action.

Have a nice day...etc.


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 22:41 | User Profile

Trembling!!! :)

Man, a guy wd KILL to have Rush Limbaugh sue him on such grounds. (e.g., it'll never happen, jj.)

As for you, you're a Britisher; you have very few legal rights in the U.S.; and zero in a civil court of law, wherein a tort libel would be adjudicated.

F*ck off while you're still behind. & remember what started this all.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-30 22:44 | User Profile

You are a spiteful sh*t, Fahey.

Keep it up, by all means.

Your lies have been deleted in the past by the moderators here. So I'm not sure if this latest one will stand.

However, while it does, let me just tell you what a pathetic little son of a bitch snitch you are.


Texas Dissident

2003-05-30 22:46 | User Profile

I'm feelin' the love!

:heart:


jjbrouwer

2003-05-30 22:53 | User Profile

TD: continue to feel the love.

I have nothing against this excellent forum, as you know.

Please allow this thread to remain.

Fahey is lying as I can prove. I do plan to sue him so I hope that when I fry his arse in court you will at least allow me to post the information here.

Many thanks, Jules.


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 22:53 | User Profile

I'm feelin' the love!

Me too. Just like a family reunion here.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-30 23:00 | User Profile

Fahey has a history of posting lies on message boards.

He was happy to post untruths about Rush Limbaugh's alleged relationship with a homosexual and also tried to discredit the people at EtherZone.

This is a lie too far.


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 23:04 | User Profile

& your multiple postings on LF.org and (god knows where else) that I like "Korean lady boys" are...what, jj? The truth? Is this what you claim?

You've been persistent, I'll give you that. Got'ny photos to go with those fries, chump?

(If not, just shut yer yob. Ya socialist, you.)


jjbrouwer

2003-05-30 23:10 | User Profile

I'm off for a snooze, weirdo.

If you haven't retracted your lies, I will sue your arse off.

A simple apology will suffice.

Wanker.


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-30 23:18 | User Profile

I just caught this thread that I didn't know I'd been summoned to.

To answer your question TBF, I'd say it's up to you to decide whether to turn him in or not. Do you want to do it for political or personal reasons?

Politically, on the one hand, since he's a Brit, his socialism can't do much damage since he can't vote or run for office or anything here as a foreigner (unless they've liberalized those election laws--I'm not fully informed on this matter). We already have lots of socialists here anyway, so one more is just a drop in the bucket. The way I see it, this one guy, being just one guy, doesn't make much difference either way politically.

If the Brit annoys you personally, then I'd say sure, turn him in to the authorities since it would feel good to stick it to him. Have some fun with him! :lol:


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 23:18 | User Profile

Spend your money!, dude. I'm sure you're livin' large.

(P.S.: Again, for the dense: Libel is a civil tort; foreigners can't bring civil torts to bear in a U.S. court of law. Sorry. You'll have to become an American citizen for that. Call me in 6 or so years, once you've been naturalized.)

Meantime, I've saved all of yr threads which state for the record that I like "Korean lady boys." That'll impress a judge.

Only, I AM an American citizen. & can use those posts to boot your ass out of the USA. On grounds of libel. In that I'm a U.S. citizen and you're not.

Think about it. (& then, shut'cher hole, for Chrissake.)


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-30 23:21 | User Profile

Originally posted by jjbrouwer@May 30 2003, 18:53 ** TD: continue to feel the love.

I have nothing against this excellent forum, as you know.

Please allow this thread to remain.

Fahey is lying as I can prove. I do plan to sue him so I hope that when I fry his arse in court you will at least allow me to post the information here.

Many thanks, Jules. **

This is an excellent forum.

And do allow the thread to remain, this is good entertainment. :lol: TBF threads are never boring, as I've always said.


toddbrendanfahey

2003-05-30 23:25 | User Profile

jj: you're still here.

Take your snooze. Sleep it off. Realize that you goaded me for over a year w/ a patently libelous jibe.

Whatever I bring unto bear to you is well-deserved. You earned it. Now deal with it.

(& go to sleep.)


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-30 23:39 | User Profile

Originally posted by jjbrouwer@May 30 2003, 19:00 ** untruths about Rush Limbaugh's alleged relationship with a homosexual and also tried to discredit the people at EtherZone. **

What is this about "discrediting" the people at EtherZone? Be a little more specific about who at EZ you're referring to as the targets, because some of the people at EZ deserve to be discredited, or rather, they've discredited themselves. Fahey is absolutely correct in his assessment of those who run the EZ forum. As a matter of fact, I think you may be familiar with NC3/CatInTheHat who moderates EZ and posts at LF (where you seem to be based). NC3 is an ass. Fahey is right to expose NC3's foolishness and criticize the direction people like him took that forum.

And as far as the Limbaugh thing, I heard about speculations on Limbaugh's sexual identity on the Internet a while back. How can Limbaugh sue over that? Can Limbaugh prove that he's always been straight? It's hard to do--no one can know anything for sure about someone's private life. Plus, Limbaugh is a public figure and therefore he'd have a very hard time suing someone over these sorts of things, since citizens are allowed wide freedom in saying (or speculating about) political figures.

Limbaugh also has so much money and power that few would sympathize with him, and many people would sympathize with Fahey since Fahey is the David to RL's Goliath. Keep in mind that Matt Drudge is famous and respected (sorta) today because the Clinton White House, with all its power, sued Drudge.


SARTRE

2003-05-30 23:59 | User Profile

Todd,

Isn't it unfortunate that every country allows Socialists, but none exist where they are banned?

SARTRE :ph34r:


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-31 00:26 | User Profile

[url=http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_crime&Number=649880&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1&t=0#Post649880]On the LF thread about this[/url], jjbrouwer states:

A friend of mine is pals with Limbaugh so if this quivering piece of st doesn't retract his lies, I will happily kick his arse in court.**

I can't say that being a friend of a friend of Limbaugh is too endearing in true conservative circles....


Texas Dissident

2003-05-31 00:35 | User Profile

Originally posted by PaleoconAvatar@May 30 2003, 19:26 I can't say that being a friend of a friend of Limbaugh is too endearing in true conservative circles....

That's true, and I've been meaning to recommend [url=http://www.westegg.com/unmaintained/carnegie/win-friends.html]this book[/url] to Todd for some time now.


seq

2003-05-31 00:52 | User Profile

I was taught that we should never judge an artist [TBF is a gifted writer] by anything other than the quality of his work. By that standard TBF is above reproach.


Texas Dissident

2003-05-31 00:59 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 30 2003, 19:53 ** I might be missing something here, but isn't jjbrouwer (aka rban?) the one who claimed to be "a friend of a friend of Limbaugh"? He's the one who could really use that book. **

jjbrouwer is not rban. And no, I'll stick with my book recommendation to Todd.


Texas Dissident

2003-05-31 01:09 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 30 2003, 20:03 ** OK, I had suspicions, but I'll defer to your wisdom on this matter; you're the Original Dissident after all. **

Well, thanks Octopod. I really have no desire to get sucked into another never-ending personal fued between the Toddmeister and jj. They are free to battle it out here as long as it is isolated to this thread.

My book suggestion to Todd was really meant in all sincerity though.


van helsing

2003-05-31 01:15 | User Profile

sorry for the late entry but...

deport all dirtbags. literacy is no defense. altho, to paraphrase joe sobran, dual loyalty is a step up for a lot of these neocnon/lib pukes... all should pick one. if they pick the wrong one... EJECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rush gay? i dunno about that but after hearing him yak about his rabbi... i kinda lost faith in his talking about "judeo-christian" this and that...

i am barely christian. i aint jewish. i cant qualify. wrong race...

it is better said christian-judeo or better yet, just christian on one hand... and jewish on the other hand. the twain dont meet.

want to see hate speech? crack open a talmud.


Robbie

2003-05-31 02:13 | User Profile

Welcome Back, VH!! :th:


van helsing

2003-05-31 03:06 | User Profile

thanks robbie


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 05:23 | User Profile

I've no idea who rban is.

The Fahey creep is one of the worst things about the Internet.

Pricks like him can post lies about people unchecked and get away with it because they are hiding out among the lady boys and pimps and other pond life of the third world.


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-31 06:21 | User Profile

Originally posted by jjbrouwer@May 31 2003, 01:23 ** Pricks like him can post lies about people unchecked and get away with it because they are hiding out among the lady boys and pimps and other pond life of the third world. **

Would you really want it any other way? The Internet is a free, Wild West kind of place, and that's a useful correction and an essential counterbalance to the overly scrubbed and sanitized controlled venues of news and information.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 06:25 | User Profile

If the Internet is used as a tool to threaten people, then I wouldn't want it this way.

The Fahey nerd is a pathetic coward and his posts are usually fuelled by self-interest and bitterness.

He actually got me banned from here some time ago by reposting some observations I made about Sam Francis on another website.

He's the kind of kid who would have regularly had the sh*t kicked out of him at school.

And rightly so.


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-31 06:29 | User Profile

Originally posted by jjbrouwer@May 31 2003, 02:25 ** He actually got me banned from here some time ago by reposting some observations I made about Sam Francis on another website. **

That must have been before my time (February 2002). I take it you said negative things about Sam Francis? Why would you want to post to conservative boards if you're a socialist like TBF says? Just for the debate?


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 06:31 | User Profile

A good question. But it probably won't surprise you to learn Fahey was lying yet again. I am a Conservative.


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-31 06:36 | User Profile

Originally posted by jjbrouwer@May 31 2003, 02:31 ** A good question. But it probably won't surprise you to learn Fahey was lying yet again. I am a Conservative. **

Another good thing about the Internet is that you get to tell your side of the story. I see that TD restored your posting privileges, so you'll have plenty of time to make your case.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 06:42 | User Profile

TD is a decent guy and probably thinks Fahey is as big a prick as everyone else does.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 06:55 | User Profile

That was actually a joke.

How very Fahey-ish of you to link to other forums. Are you his butt boy?


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-31 06:59 | User Profile

Originally posted by jjbrouwer@May 31 2003, 02:42 TD is a decent guy and probably thinks Fahey is as big a prick as everyone else does.

TD is a decent guy. After all, he puts up with me.

TBF and I enjoy good relations. He has always struck me as a talented writer and a dedicated patriot. He's led an interesting life and often has interesting "inside information" about various topics. I've read some of his fiction works and interviews at the Far Gone Books site and enjoyed them.


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-31 07:05 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 31 2003, 02:49 ** jjbrouwer: I am a Conservative.

Did you mean "neoconservative"?

Looks like it, from the things you write on Liberty Forum.

In reply to HenryofNavarre who posted:

"Moscow is the Third Rome. Moscow is a beautiful city and the capital of a Great nation. Why would want to see Moscow bombed?"

You wrote:

"It might tidy it up a bit."

Sounds pretty NeoCon (NeoTrotskyite) to me.

[url=http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_members&Number=650682&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=21&vc=1&t=0#Post650682]link[/url] **

Octopod, good call--the example may have been intended as humor, but it touches on a point that I'd thought of raising but decided not to since I wasn't sure if this thread was the right place to raise that particular ideological dimension.

But I'm glad you raised the point that there are a lot of ways to define the word "conservative." Maybe jjbrouwer will reveal more about his particular brand in the course of the discussion on other threads in the future.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 07:12 | User Profile

Humour is often lost on our American cousins but never mind...

I usually vote for the British Conservative Party which is why I consider myself a Conservative.


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-31 07:24 | User Profile

Originally posted by jjbrouwer@May 31 2003, 03:12 ** Humour is often lost on our American cousins but never mind...

I usually vote for the British Conservative Party which is why I consider myself a Conservative. **

I see. Were I British, I'd vote for the British National Party. Actually, I was a member of the American Friends of the BNP before it was shut down due to a smear campaign against it by Morris Dees' SPLC.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 07:29 | User Profile

Ironically, most of the people who vote BNP are lifelong socialists.

It's usually a protest vote against their boroughs awarding council housing to ethnic minorities.


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-31 07:33 | User Profile

Originally posted by jjbrouwer@May 31 2003, 03:29 ** Ironically, most of the people who vote BNP are lifelong socialists.

It's usually a protest vote against their boroughs awarding council housing to ethnic minorities. **

Those socialists seem to have some conservative instincts, since they know enough to restrict their altruism to their in-group, rather than fritter it away in a truly egalitarian fashion. "Non-egalitarian socialism" doesn't seem as destructive or threatening to me. I wonder if it's even "socialism" anymore in any real or standard sense?


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 07:38 | User Profile

The present UK government is hardly socialist at all. The Labour Party shifted so far to the right that it is almost indestinguishable from the Conservative Party, which in turn will have to shift to the left to become electable.

Saying that though, America's two main parties aren't very different from one another.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 07:47 | User Profile

An "influential man"...

What planet are you from, dopey?

The guy is a frickin' loony.


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-31 07:49 | User Profile

Originally posted by jjbrouwer@May 31 2003, 03:38 ** The present UK government is hardly socialist at all. The Labour Party shifted so far to the right that it is almost indestinguishable from the Conservative Party, which in turn will have to shift to the left to become electable.

Saying that though, America's two main parties aren't very different from one another. **

You're quite right--same conditions here. We have a Democratic Party that's in bed with the plutocrats as much as the Republicans ever were (which is what prompted Ralph Nader to run as a Green in 2000), and we see Bush pandering to traditionally Leftist constituencies (minorities, gays, etc.) and passing out all kinds of Big Government goodies in the process.

Both parties form "The Center" and are in lock-step on the issues that matter--foreign policy, trade, immigration, etc. Which is what brings me here to OD...my opposition to the globalist/multicultural New World Order they have planned for us.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 07:54 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 31 2003, 01:51 ** PaleoconAvatar: Octopod, good call--the example may have been intended as humor, but it touches on a point that I'd thought of raising but decided not to since I wasn't sure if this thread was the right place to raise that particular ideological dimension.

At first I thought it might be only a joke, but I looked through a lot of his other posts. Jjbrouwer is clearly a neocon. His posts consist of ranting about "Jew-haters" (such as attacks on madrussian and others), posting ADL-inspired screeds, and generally promoting the neocon agenda for foreign and domestic policy. On top of that, even on this forum he boasted about being friends with a friend of Limbaugh's. If that's not a neocon boast, nothing is. **

What are you dribbling on about now?

Madrussian is one of the few posters at LF that I have any respect for. Even if he has swallowed the poison pill when it comes to his Russian Jew cousins.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 07:57 | User Profile

Originally posted by PaleoconAvatar@May 31 2003, 01:49 ** > Originally posted by jjbrouwer@May 31 2003, 03:38 ** The present UK government is hardly socialist at all. The Labour Party shifted so far to the right that it is almost indestinguishable from the Conservative Party, which in turn will have to shift to the left to become electable.

Saying that though, America's two main parties aren't very different from one another. **

You're quite right--same conditions here. We have a Democratic Party that's in bed with the plutocrats as much as the Republicans ever were (which is what prompted Ralph Nader to run as a Green in 2000), and we see Bush pandering to traditionally Leftist constituencies (minorities, gays, etc.) and passing out all kinds of Big Government goodies in the process.

Both parties form "The Center" and are in lock-step on the issues that matter--foreign policy, trade, immigration, etc. Which is what brings me here to OD...my opposition to the globalist/multicultural New World Order they have planned for us. **

If I had the power to vote here and - as the stalker Fahey has pointed out, I don't - I'm really not sure which party I would choose.

I'd probably vote Republican but Bush's leadership has been rather less than inspiring.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 08:03 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 31 2003, 02:00 ** jjbrouwer wrote: Madrussian is one of the few posters at LF that I have any respect for. Even if he has swallowed the poison pill when it comes to his Russian Jew cousins.

Here's one of your LF posts about madrussian (post number 650703):

"I don't quite get why he hates the Jews so much. Surely, being Russian, he is related to so many of them."

Doesn't sound like "respect" to me. **

You don't really get jokes do you?

Sad that you've inherited the Fahey trick of reposting from other forums. Crawl out of his butt cheek any time you like.


Edana

2003-05-31 14:29 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 31 2003, 00:49 jjbrouwer: I am a Conservative.**

Did you mean "neoconservative"?

Looks like it, from the things you write on Liberty Forum.

In reply to HenryofNavarre who posted:

"Moscow is the Third Rome. Moscow is a beautiful city and the capital of a Great nation. Why would want to see Moscow bombed?"

You wrote:

"It might tidy it up a bit."

Sounds pretty NeoCon (NeoTrotskyite) to me.

[url=http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_members&Number=650682&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=21&vc=1&t=0#Post650682]link[/url]**

No, he's just a Brit with a vigorous love of the drink.


jjbrouwer

2003-05-31 15:00 | User Profile

Stop following me!


toddbrendanfahey

2003-06-01 17:34 | User Profile

jjbrouwer, on many threads, has confessed that he's a Tony Blair-voter.

He's also said that "Norman Tebbit" (the brains and political power behind Maggie Thatcher, in the 1980s former Chairman of the Conservative Party...the Larry McDonald or Phil Crane (in American parlance) of England)] was "a thug."

Julian Brouwer (jjbrouwer) has not contributed a single thought as to decentralized anti-federalism, in either the U.S. or the U.K. He's a confessed Tony Blair adherant. He thinks Sam Francis and the John Birch Society are "wackos."

What more needs to be said?


Texas Dissident

2003-06-01 18:30 | User Profile

I think this subject has been covered now. If you have anything else to add, please do it soon as I'm going to close this thread in a bit.

Time to move on.