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Texas Dissident [OP]

2003-05-29 17:04 | User Profile

[url=http://pages.zdnet.com/sartre65/gulag/id22.html]Metropolis Melodrama[/url]

by SARTRE

May 28, 2003

Often civilization is viewed as the embodiment of urban architectural achievements. Buildings may be marvelous tributes to engineering and design, but glass and steel never create the soul of a society. The cosmopolitan culture that passes for urbane sophistication usually has flaws that many city inhabitants fail to recognize. While the crime, congestion and pollution are familiar ingredients, few comprehend that another form of contamination resides in their assembled utopia.

Metropolitan regions are the product of planned and controlled systems of organization. On the surface a sensible master plan for construction and use seems apparent. All cities maintain procedures for development, renewal and expansion. What is absent from the process is an introspection of the merits and wisdom for the existence of the municipality. Because of natural attributes and locations, urban centers rose out of the wilderness. Past history forged economies and greeted new arrivals. The attraction of bright city lights came well before the illumination of streets by Edison. So what is wrong or lacking with this environment?

The universal similarity that is the model for all urban societies is that administration and political organization becomes the central focus as populations rise. The degree of control is directly proportionate to the scale of size. Methods may vary among different cultures, but the trend is unbroken. Especially in the post modern technocratic era, the opportunities for regulation supersede the needs for balanced order. Most people believe that freedom of employment, advancements, activities, entertainment and life styles reside within the urban community. Surely, the reality where people live, proves the perception of their selections. But what is the true price paid for that illusory outlook?

Metropolis is the prize paragon for those obsessed with limiting and removing your real freedom of choices. Before the erection of any great city, primitive tribes were dominated by rulers who’s central concern was fixing the limits of their subjects. The mere concept that subordination is normal to the political chieftain, reveals the nature of the dilemma. However, inherent conflict does not determine or condemn ultimate fate. It does illustrate the contempt that power hungry seekers have for their neighbors. Today, this same lust and arrogance for mastery thrives within the pillars of greed and the penthouses of conceit. The New World Order is real. The elites who aspire and ascend the selection ladder, whether out of privilege or aptitude, share a common lineage with the barbarian master savage.

The concentration within urban colonies has been described as robot machines run amuck. The Luddite theme of "bad technology" that, no matter how good it looks at first, will turn around and bite the common man was brought to life in the film version of the - Metropolis. But the basic strife is not among laborers and managers. The fundamental hostility has always been between those who want absolute control and the commonalty who are willing to resign themselves as servile serfs. The technology of the neoteric society elevates the means and capacities of herding the flock into the pens of containment. The machines of compliance perfect the process, maintaining the precision of direction for their final destination.

The tangible danger is not that humans have less control over the machines, as depicted in that other movie - Blade Runner. No, the truth is that the humans have become the robot machine of the elites. Advancements in technology hasten the progress and prospects for achieving perfect power. Urban societies are the spawning pools for guppies, and the testing grounds for new weapons of mass destruction. The architecture remains as a fitting memorial to the achievement and the ingenuity for edifices of appearance, but remain as hollow shells of human realization. The vision of the ruling class has but one central goal - the integration of the world under the dictate of the nobility.

All institutional councils, agencies, boards and bureaucracies have their origin in urban mentality. Analytical metropolis logic decrees that behavior must be managed. People’s faculty for independent and pragmatic functioning is far too hazardous to be left unregulated. Out of the metropolitan mindset emerges the drive for international cohesion and extension. If a city can be designed, planned and governed - why not an entire world! The complexity of such a task, now can be accomplish because of the technology to blanket the globe with sweeping compliance and enforcement of the ultimate plan.

Extreme engineering can build to the sky, but has learned nothing of the nature of the humans who will reside within their towers of Babel. Financial exchanges amass huge gains of imaginary currencies, never explaining the absurdity in the idea of compound interest. Social machinates develop schemes of redistributing wealth that they are unable to earn. Media minstrels sing a song of gulling deception that avoids meaningful substance and disclosure. Crooked politicians pander to the civic communities, promise solutions for created problems and impose legislation that inoculates the germ of subserviency into the body politick. All are sacred cows of the urban theorist, adorers of the sorcery technology and rabid inhabitants of Metropolis.

Once the cathedral was central and the focal location of the city. Our civilization sprouted from all roads that lead from that basilica of belief. The public square was busy with discourse, absorbed with ideas and engaged with enterprise. Schools taught of tradition and heritage. People practiced patriotism towards proven principles. Charity was given deliberately and morality was the civic standard.

Today, the citadel of global worship is celebrated in the urban pagan temple. The melodrama is a horror plot that relies upon the technology of terror to produce designer victims who never know their weird social scientists builders. The robot Maria, in the Metropolis motion picture, has no emotion towards the workers. She only wants to lead them down a violent path and doesn’t care that the entire city will drown. The usual NWO suspects, that we know all too well, have the soul of a Maria. But they are not robots, but they are devils. When the urbanite tells you that evil is dead, they are fornicating with a corpse. The carcass that they violate is your heritage and future. Real civilization is based upon ideas of freedom and liberty; not structures of domination, abuse and despair. Humans are not intended to be machines. The metropolitan condition has become a city of shame and deserves the same fate as globalism - extinction.

SARTRE - May 28, 2003

In complex situations, we may rely too heavily on planning and forecasting and underestimate the importance of random factors in the environment. That reliance can also lead to delusions of control. - Hillel J. Einhorn


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-29 17:11 | User Profile

Excellent! As I read this I realized there'd be plenty of pro-megalopolis FReepers who'd disagree with this article in the name of some sort of capitalist "progress." I also realized that our old friend Ayn Rand placed a special, fawning emphasis on urban architecture and skyscrapers in her novels.


Edana

2003-05-29 19:20 | User Profile

I would love to get out of this huge city, very much. Economics keeps us in. :(


Texas Dissident

2003-05-29 21:45 | User Profile

Originally posted by AntiYuppie@May 29 2003, 16:34 **It takes a modern Jew or an utterly deracinated white to truly feel "at home" in an artificial nightmare like New York City. **

For me, Hank, Jr. said it best:

If heaven aint a lot like Dixie I don't want to go If heaven aint a lot like Dixie I'd just as soon stay home If the aint got a grand ol' Opry Like they do in Tennessee Just send me to hell or New York City It'd be about the same to me


SARTRE

2003-05-29 21:46 | User Profile

Edana,

Hope you will read the essay - [url=http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/sartrejp/VIEW/id12.html]Urban Living is NOT Civilization[/url] which was a link within the column.

WILLARD is the common trait that plagues the urban dweller. Understand the need to acquire money to live. We are less than 50 miles from a population of over a million, while our location affords no neighbors within a mile and a half.

Hope you will find an answer that works for you.

Thanks for reading the column.

SARTRE :ph34r:


Walter Yannis

2003-05-30 12:31 | User Profile

Originally posted by AntiYuppie@May 29 2003, 21:34 ** It takes a modern Jew or an utterly deracinated white to truly feel "at home" in an artificial nightmare like New York City. **

One of the most perfect days I ever spent was in Central Park.

It was in 1988, and I was in New York for a couple of weeks on an assignment. A childhood friend was doing his PhD at Columbia, and he and his young wife (a freckled farm girl from the Mid-West) invited me to a free New York Philharmonic concert on the Green.

It was one of those gorgeous Indian Summer days in mid-September. I had just flown in from Moscow, and I had a half kilo of excellent beluga caviar. We stopped in to Ziebart's and bought smoked bluefish and fresh French bread and Danish butter. We got to the Green early enough to stake out a nice place near the front.

The cops had expelled all of the riff-raff who make their homes in an around the Green. The audience was overwhelmingly white, including a number of well-groomed children and their yuppie parents. The concert was wonderful. The weather was perfect. The food was excellent. The company and conversation were top shelf. There was no pushing or shoving or shouts of "down in front!", or worries about angry negroes.

And Central Park! Lordy, how beautiful. Central Park is an architectural masterpiece, with its twists and turns and little spots of water and green all around - and the autumn leaves just turning color. I didn't realize it at the time, but that day turned out to be one of the nicest days of my life. I think of it often.

I remember when the concert ended and the sun was going down, the cops seemed in a hurry to get us out of there. As we were leaving I noticed the dark hordes waiting sullenly behind the cordon of uniformed NYPD to return to their homes. I realized that the Green wasn't mine, - that Central Park and New York weren't really mine. That I was in a sense trespassing on the territory of others, and that only armed men could oust the usual tenants for a short time so that my friends and I could enjoy the illusion of ownership for a few fleeting moments. That moment of poignant sadness was the only blot on an otherwise perfect day.

So, all I can say is that New York could be the greatest place on Earth, and the key is to make New York white again. Then Central Park would again belong to me and my friends - the very ones for whom it was designed in the first place.

Walter


il ragno

2003-05-30 18:04 | User Profile

So, all I can say is that New York could be the greatest place on Earth, and the key is to make New York white again. Then Central Park would again belong to me and my friends - the very ones for whom it was designed in the first place

1000% correct.

Nothing makes me as crazy as willy-nilly city-bashing when the great cities of the Western World are the West's greatest achievements. But when I have to endure the dum-dum couplets of a Hank Williams Jr as punctuation to these arguments....when the culprit is and always has been our abdication of our racial prerogatives & responsibilities....I hit the roof.

What would you rather have - Paris, Rome, Munich, New York & London - or combo tractor pull/Freeper rallies and Monday Night Football?

For Gawd's sakes, nobody despises what a NYC has become, or wants out of it, more than me. But what is restoration of the West about if it's not the reclamation of our once-great cities...the examplars of Western Civilization? Why not essays on how much happier we all were before the electric light and the internal combustion engine too?


Edana

2003-05-30 18:17 | User Profile

Originally posted by SARTRE@May 29 2003, 15:46 **Edana,

Hope you will read the essay - [url=http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/sartrejp/VIEW/id12.html]Urban Living is NOT Civilization[/url] which was a link within the column.

WILLARD is the common trait that plagues the urban dweller. Understand the need to acquire money to live. We are less than 50 miles from a population of over a million, while our location affords no neighbors within a mile and a half.

Hope you will find an answer that works for you.

Thanks for reading the column.

SARTRE :ph34r:**

Hello, Sartre. We are a young couple and barely starting out on our own. Someday, I'd like for us to have enough money to live in an area on the outskirts.

The good thing I have to say about the city I live in, is that it is not nearly as dense and dirty as the average American city. It's one of the biggest cities in Canada, and it's nicer than the average small city in America. We just happen to live in the most non-White area, since the costs are low and we needed a cheap place to buy to start out (renting is not an option, because that's throwing money out the window). The goal is to save up and move to the part of the city which is pretty much all White, middle class (where he grew up). It's even less dense, a lot nicer, quiet, fresher air, and has more greenery and walking trails.


Texas Dissident

2003-05-30 18:24 | User Profile

Originally posted by il ragno@May 30 2003, 13:04 **What would you rather have - Paris, Rome, Munich, New York & London - or combo tractor pull/Freeper rallies and Monday Night Football? **

Is that a trick question, IR? :)

I'm tempted to quote Bocephus' "Stuck up here with Dixie on my Mind," but I'll spare all you city-boy Yankees. ;)

Truth be told, I'll take the latter, thank you. Them's my peoples. Give me a Savannah, Spartansburg, or Shreveport any day of the week. Granted I've never been to New York, but I have been to Chicago and that's pretty close. Living in the middle of a city like that would be hell on earth for me. Just thinking of all those people crammed in on top of each other makes me claustrophobic. I gotta have some personal lebansraum, even among white folks.

'Course to each his own and that's why our diversity makes us so strong.


Edana

2003-05-30 18:25 | User Profile

Originally posted by il ragno@May 30 2003, 12:04 ** What would you rather have - Paris, Rome, Munich, New York & London - or combo tractor pull/Freeper rallies and Monday Night Football? **

Neither, but I'd go with Tractorland if it were in a nice environment with rivers and trees.

Personally, my favorite living environments are the small foresty towns and villages such as the type in the NW. I absolutely adore those.

I just like being around nature.


eric von zipper

2003-05-30 18:42 | User Profile

**But when I have to endure the dum-dum couplets of a Hank Williams Jr as punctuation to these arguments....when the culprit is and always has been our abdication of our racial prerogatives & responsibilities....I hit the roof. **

Why is it all you New Yalkers really believe that crapola about it being a great town?

It has more in common with Sodom and Gomorrah than with Rome.

Give it up, man, it's a cesspool and has been since 1968. That's the year the rot came to the surface and you began to see Screw magazine on the newstands right beside the Times.

Everybody has to pick one thing that says to them "this place is irretrievably shot" and the emergence of Screw into the NY scene as something other than what should have been kept in the back room signaled among many other things that much overrated town's demise.

And as for abdicating racial prerogatives, you're gonna see a lot more of that in NYC, which has done more to foster the jew upon America than Hollywood, than you are likely to see at a Hank Williams Jr concert, although I can't stand the egomaniacal mini talent myself.

Point being, your natural allies in your quixotic quest are southern boys. I happened to catch a Kenny Chesney concert on CMTV the other week. 20,000 good looking buff white kids - no diversity here - no neurotics - listening to what actually can pass as music and contains passages that express sentiment that reveal that these kids are not different valuewise than their grandparents. To the jew music critic sitting in NY it's the worst sort of garbage certainly, compared to artistes such as Marilyn Manson, but the fact they despise it says something positive about it because it shows that some young whites remain unsullied by the filth that they must wade through daily as if they had a genetic resistance to it.


Texas Dissident

2003-05-30 18:47 | User Profile

Originally posted by AntiYuppie@May 30 2003, 13:32 Your rural high school dropout still has words like "excuse me," "please," and "thank you" as parts of his vocabulary. His urban counterpart is usually a leather and chain clad, body pierced lout with greased hair who wouldn't use such basic civilized phrases at gunpoint.

Good point, AY. Again, in my experience visiting Chicago I was struck by how rude the people there were with each other. Even in a huge city like Houston, you don't get that sort of thing generally, unless of course you're dealing with a yankee or a foreigner. So maybe that's more of a north/south cultural divide as opposed to a rural/urban one. Although I'm sure that rural areas of the Northeast and Midwest are just as friendly and polite to each other.


edward gibbon

2003-05-30 18:54 | User Profile

When young, almost 50 years ago, I remember walking 52nd Street in Philadelphia on a Saturday night with my uncle. We had seen a movie and then had some pizza. He greeted all the shopkeepers whom he seemed to know. We walked to his home with no worry in the world. A public park was across the street from him and was a very pleasant place to read the Sunday paper or a book. The city in that area was working class or lower middle class white and extremely civilized.

I go by that place about every 3 years now to see it. I almost cry. Savages have occupied the land, and no apparent signs of civilization are to be seen. I remember Spengler describing the role of fellaheen in the decaying city. Obviously this descent into barbarity has occured previously in history. Our great quest is to reverse the plunge. I remember reading T.S. Eliot's observation that rural life is the natural living for most people. The physical draining of a day's labor must have much to do with the comparative lack of violence. It takes centuries to build a culture based on mutual curtesy, manners and common cause. The entertainment media have destroyed this way of life in less than 50 years.


Texas Dissident

2003-05-30 19:04 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 30 2003, 13:56 We need to retake that castle for our elite before the serfs of the land will ever march to our cadence. **

Or make a clean break, separate and build a moat around it. We might even make L.A. and New York prisons, completely walled off with tower guards and barb-wire fences.

Now that's a novel idea, right Snake? :P


Texas Dissident

2003-05-30 19:35 | User Profile

Before Il Ragno or anyone else takes offence, I should say that I've just been funnin' with him a bit. I think I can understand why some would enjoy living in an ideal big city. To an outsider though, all I see coming out of New York and L.A. is cultural rot and degeneracy that infects the entire nation. There are exceptions like my cordial relationship with Il Ragno, but I do have a hard time seeing where I or folks like myself have any commonality whatsoever with a New York City. Any state that can elect Chuck Schumer as its Senator is one that I'd really rather not share any governmental ties with. The U.S. is too big and way too disparate. We'd be better off breaking off into 4 or 5 separate nations. I don't see any way to repair the damage already done.


il ragno

2003-05-30 20:26 | User Profile

I lived down South for 5 years and loved it. And I've never been shy about saying so, either. Nor have I been reticent to play taps for our corroding, dying cities.

But horseflop is horseflop and should not be confused for chocolate mousse. When Hank Williams Jr gets his residual checks for his MNF work, they're cut in little old Jew York. He sure didn't mind lunch at Lutece with Hyman and Abie - with a trip to Scores for dessert - when he was signing the deal that paid for the extension to his home.

Hank Jr knows how to play the game. And so do the Freepers who know how to milk the heartland on behalf of the folks who've run our once-great cities into the ground.

**Why is it all you New Yalkers really believe that crapola about it being a great town?

It has more in common with Sodom and Gomorrah than with Rome.

Give it up, man, it's a cesspool and has been since 1968.**

If American history began in 1968, you'd have a point.


MadScienceType

2003-05-30 20:54 | User Profile

Their frustrations and grievances have been channeled into harmless outlets such as "tractor pulls" and calls to "nook them Ayrabs" instead.

You forgot the GOP.

Good point, AY. Again, in my experience visiting Chicago I was struck by how rude the people there were with each other.

You haven't seen rude until you've been to Seattle. Must be all the coffee and lack of vitamin A or something.

Hank Jr knows how to play the game. And so do the Freepers who know how to milk the heartland on behalf of the folks who've run our once-great cities into the ground.

SFG, eh?


MadScienceType

2003-05-30 21:07 | User Profile

Aside from being in probably every other Hank Williams song, maybe..

Not a fan of John Carpenter's work, I take it?


Texas Dissident

2003-05-30 21:13 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 30 2003, 16:10 ** No, if only because I'm not familiar with it. **

You know, Snake Pliskin - Escape from New York. Kurt Russell.


SARTRE

2003-05-30 23:43 | User Profile

Folks you are missing the point!

The density level is a systemic problem that can't be ignored. Did you read about WILLARD in the article cited?

London works because there are neighborhoods that are assessable by the tubes. Paris works because of the small area of the city and the character of their culture. Rome, over 5 million, needs to ban cars. Vienna and Venice are both charming.

But Salzburg and Avigon has more civilization, than any USA city of any size.

Is there anyone who would defend LA on ANY level?

What most American are unable to brings themselves to accept or dare to admit is that the pluralist society has destroyed whatever quality of live existed a half-century ago in major US cities.

Houston is a uninhabitable, Atlanta is an alien colony and DC has more merit as a replacement for the Navy target range in Vieques.

The urban mentality of Hamilton is the problem. Urbanites can't see their way outside the prison cell they call their residence.

Visiting cities can be enjoyable, but living in one should be confined for short term durations.

Many of the greatest divides in politics rests upon the conflict between the WILLARDS and the human.

SARTRE :ph34r:


PaleoconAvatar

2003-05-30 23:52 | User Profile

Originally posted by SARTRE@May 30 2003, 19:43 ** Is there anyone who would defend LA on ANY level? **

Not me. In fact, when the Chinese or North Koreans drop hints that they plan to nuke that city, I always say, "go ahead, you'd be doing us a favor."


SARTRE

2003-05-31 00:09 | User Profile

Paul,

Isn't it funny that 'so called' enemies always get the credit for the dastardly deeds! Maybe because Americans are so law abiding or is it that they simply refuse to seen the enemy within? Tim V sure came along at a time to save Klinton. Think what a guy like him could do with airplanes . . . Surely, we can all sleep well at night, the Capital and the White House is safe.

SARTRE :ph34r:


Bardamu

2003-05-31 01:22 | User Profile

Originally posted by Texas Dissident@May 30 2003, 13:35 ** The U.S. is too big and way too disparate.  We'd be better off breaking off into 4 or 5 separate nations.  I don't see any way to repair the damage already done.**

Here here! Therein lies the only answer. We need a few republics within what will be old America and Canada. It is doable but only after a dictate from heaven --- some huge cataclysm that starts the unraveling. This act of heaven could come in a variety of forms. It could be a tsunami, a caldera, a virus, but something big it must be and from heaven it must come. And it is a distinct possibility to. The system (the zog -- can't think of a better term) is powerful but unstable. We have a chance yet, but revolution is not going to happen through politics. When in the history of the world has a fat people ever rebeled?


Walter Yannis

2003-05-31 12:17 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 30 2003, 18:56 ** AntiYuppie: Keep in mind that today's neocon-hijacked FReeper braying "Lets Role" at a David Horowitz rally would, in non-Judaized society, be attending Klan rallies instead. Their frustrations and grievances have been channeled into harmless outlets such as "tractor pulls" and calls to "nook them Ayrabs" instead.

Absolutely. But how did society become Judaized to begin with, except through the Jewish takeover of our great cities? The aliens did not land their craft in the middle of a Kansas prairie. They pointedly took our cities first, and in doing so they won the key to this nation's destiny. The only way we can regain that key, and thus control of our destiny, is to reconquer our urban territories. The metropolis can be defined as "the great castle of their elite." We need to retake that castle for our elite before the serfs of the land will ever march to our cadence.

Octopod **

Alas, although I dearly love what the great cities of our civilization were and might still be, as a hardheaded businessman I'm compelled to admit that they've probably lost their economic underpinnings and will likely continue their decline into irrelevance.

Cities arose, after all, for reasons of economic efficiency. Transportation and communication costs were much lower when trading partners were located in a small geographical place. That's why, for example, Sears built the tallest building in the world (until very recently) to house its corporate HQ; stacking all of its operations one on top of the other lowered the costs of communication among its executive class to the price of an elevator ride. In short, cities are efficient because they lower transaction costs. They were built out of economic necessity, and all the great stuff that Il Ragno and I love about great cities like New York and London - the architecture, the great museums, theaters and orchestras - were in truth merely epiphenomenal to this undergirding of economic efficiency.

Things are different now. First and foremost, we have technologies that make communications extremely cheap over the entire globe. This message board is a good example - there are posts from all over the world here. But people communicating instantaneously all over the world is something that would have cost probably thousands of times more only a couple decades ago. Communications have gotten very, very cheap. Transportation costs have also come waaaaayy far down in the past 50 years - long distance air and land travel is well within reach of millions and millions of people, and containerization and computerization have greatly reduced the costs of shipping and handling goods of all kinds. These two factors alone militate toward a spreading out of the population geographically, a process that is of course well underway. If the economic present is the strip mall, the economic future will probably be a world of cul-de-sacs serviced by delivery trucks connected by the Internet. Not that I relish the idea.

There's another economic reason for the fall of cities that has not yet become fully apparent; that is the simple fact that we live in the age of nuclear terrorism. If even one nuke or other WMD went off in a major US city, then the entire insurance industy would be caught with its pants down and enormous economic dislocation would surely ensue. In economic terms, we've VASTLY UNDERESTIMATED the costs of building and maintaining cities, because we failed to factor in [Terrorists + WMD] into the equation. Frankly speaking, I'm a fool to live in a large city that could be a target. I'm certainly one of the emerging class of potential telecommunters, too, so I have no excuse except to say that I love the life.

I think the foregoing is rather clearly correct - cities don't make the economic sense they once did, and since nothing can deny gravity be it of the Newtonian or Ricardian variety, cities are bound to fall on the economic pull alone, especially if we take a big WMD hit from some terrorist group. Please, please prove to me that I'm wrong.

I see also a social reason; i.e. the instinctive human tendency to segregate along racial and ethnic lines, which combined with third world immigration will drive the process further. Since cities will increasingly reverse roles with the country and towns as the cutting edge of the economy, becoming the loci of minimum wage, entry level jobs, I see cities becoming poorer and browner and the 'burbs becoming more dispersed and whiter even as they become increasingly hardwired together via the net. Actually, what am I saying? That's the present, not the future, but it seems to me that this process will not only continue but will accelerate, but again I want to be convinced that I'm wrong.

Clearly, however, many people would relish the thought of living in a great city like New York if the city was white, but alas and alack, that ain't the way it's gonna be.

To repeat, one big terrorist WMD attack (government sponsored or otherwise) would be enough, I would think, to greatly accelerate the economic and social processes that underly the decades-long decline of of our cities.

Good by NY Philharmonic concerts on the Green in Central Park, hello cul-de-sac and Internet downloads of Mozart!

Walter


Walter Yannis

2003-05-31 12:35 | User Profile

Originally posted by Octopod@May 30 2003, 21:37 ** AntiYuppie: Furthermore, one can't blame Jews or coloreds for the degradation of our own youth and our own "home-grown" culture either. It's an organic problem that seems most pronounced in urban environments for reasons which can be debated.

Unlike the immigration problem, there really is no way to reverse a societal aging process.

Here's where I respectfully disagree, AY. Presumably, I'm closer to Yockey and even Hitler & Co. than to Spengler on this question. Our society is not dying of old age. Our society is sick because of the malevolent presence of alien forces. Thus, I believe its current state of degeneracy is wholly reversible. **

I agree.

Without putting too fine a gloss on it, the key to reversing the societal aging problem is to get married and have tons of great sex without using artificial birthcontrol.

In short, have some babies!

I'm very fond of mine.

Walter


Hugh Lincoln

2003-06-02 21:54 | User Profile

It takes a modern Jew or an utterly deracinated white to truly feel "at home" in an artificial nightmare like New York City.

Yes, but it remains something to behold. Raw power is something I respect, whatever its source, and NYC is pulsing with it.